Hellyeah brother! This is what is up! I built the deck with minor changes and it IS scary good. Would love to see that Eldrazi upgrade you promised if that video reach a certain number. I believe it has reached it! 🙃 you rock man!
If you're going the wheel route, which is where I expected the deck to go, you can also add in the mill route. Opponents are losing life, so Mindcrank goes well with Bloodchief's Ascension. Same with Altar of the Brood and Syr Konrad
I’m really hoping that with this upgrade I can stand a chance against my friends couple decks! He has a modified Veloco-ramp-tor with cascade and a sliver deck that just waxes everything by turn 3-4
chandra is goated as outside of mind break trap or a spell/effect that can counter a loyalty ability they cant stop you from using the +2, you can hold priority as she resolves to activate the ability and it goes on the stack but most ppl arent running stifle or MBT in commander
Won’t we end up with deck death from a wheel strategy deck? Cause with how many times we are getting rid of our hand and drawing cards again our pile will be gone and we will be dead And if you are discarding your hand what if you discarded something good
what do you think about: Collective Defiance Burning Inquiry Damnation Incendiary Command Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant Khorvath's Fury Magus of the Wheel Memory Jar Rogue's Passage Runehorn Hellkite Solphim, Mayhem Dominus Sulfuric Vortex Untimely Malfunction Wheel of Fate Withering Torment Yawgmoth's Will and the new guy on the block: Scrawling Crawler
I like this. Have you considered Descent into Avernus in here? I know it benefits the opponents as well, but it's kind of a pet card for me. You are the first to benefit from it obviously, the damage it causes to them helps your overall goal and gives you good ramp because your spells are often a little on the higher end. Or if you have Archfiend of Despair in play, a few turn rotations and the table is dead. How do we protect against board wipes?
Been using him with a Roaming Throne and Bloodchief Ascension and he's a massive salt generator. Roaming Throne doubles all the triggers for demons and it just gets FILTHY in a couple turns with a wheel deck
@@SergeiMosin Bloodletter and Archfiend of Depravity I can see do some good work. Not sure about other valgavoth and Vilis, those don't really offer any synergy. Shelob has green, so can't work. You do give me an idea though, Archfiend of Despair as well as Sower of Discord might be nice.
Knew this one would be a good deck, sad that I didn't buy one waiting for the pre release first But I remember people saying this Valgavoth would be not good
Damn totally got the same deck idea. I do almost the exact same deck. I like the add-ins you have though no it's not that I didn't know about I see you
I try to stay away from symmetrical effects and still having a bit of trouble surviving as Valgavoth. I'm playing Revenge of Ravens, Bazilisk Collar, Blessing of Belzenok, Bloodchief ascension and such cards to gain life, but it's still a challege. I checked some most liked decks on Moxfield and didn't see an answer
I love this deck, been playing it non stop. But i've been playing it wrong lol. Valgavoth doesn't trigger for each opponent every turn....he only triggers once, to that specific opponent on their turn. I assumed valgavoth saw all 3 of my opponents taking life and drawing three each turn lol. I was drawing 9 cards per cycle, oops....
Had the same thing happen. You live and learn. He is still insane. You can lay him down and by the time your turn comes back to you he could be a 7/7 lmao.
Trust me: RUN PRICE OF GLORY. Those who say "it's land destruction" are wrong. It forced ppl to play around the card in other ppls turn not theirs. Yes the pod will hate you but you will control all those counter spells 😂😂
I love Valgavoth, but I have not figured out yet, how to handle 3 enemies at once. The deck is cool, but you surely get the hate of alle enemies and that's the point, while Valgavoth constantly does damage to all opponents (and to the own player sometimes), it has nothing to really survice against 3 players all at once... EDIT: I like, that your deck idea goes more on discarding, that helps dealing more damage and weakening the enemy, so you can handle the hate a bit better!
I’m really hoping that with this upgrade I can stand a chance against my friends couple decks! He has a modified Veloco-ramp-tor with cascade and a sliver deck that just waxes everything by turn 3-4
When he said "It's valgavothing time" I had chills
Keep it up man. Your non budget decks have become my ABSOLUTE FAVORITES! Hit after hit!
They always should be!
Watched for about .5 seconds and instantly subscribed because of bros energy. 20/10
Thank you for the video! Never thought about wheel deck with the new Valgavoth. I will definitely try it out!
I have found that Blessing of Leeches works great for keeping the counters on Valgavoth when they try to remove it
Hellyeah brother! This is what is up! I built the deck with minor changes and it IS scary good.
Would love to see that Eldrazi upgrade you promised if that video reach a certain number. I believe it has reached it! 🙃 you rock man!
Absolutely love this video! Off thought but og Rakdos would be nasty in this.
Another great card to add is Feast on the Fallen. It really synergizes with the strategy and makes Valgavoth beefy much quicker.
Problem is: it gets too big too quickly. This paints an even bigger target on you forehead. And 3vs1 with this is.....problematic
@@TheSteve_1992 I would argue you've already painted a target on yourself by even playing this deck in the first place. Own it. 😂
@@Thoughtmage100 Fair 'nuff
@@Thoughtmage100 Excellent suggestion 👍 first thing I will add in there.
If you're going the wheel route, which is where I expected the deck to go, you can also add in the mill route. Opponents are losing life, so Mindcrank goes well with Bloodchief's Ascension. Same with Altar of the Brood and Syr Konrad
Is there a list which cards were cut from the original list?
You can add Mindcrank to make a combo with bloodchief
This is HUGE thank you so much! I'm thinking about adding a bloodletter to really really get my pod to hate me
Awesome composition and textbook recipe to become the archfiend 😂 seriously really like the wheel idea you brought into it
im going to be following this build very closely lol. Thank you for giving me a good direction to go off of!
Literally on Demon time
Thought I'd be first
So is this from the stock deck or from the budget build you have already done!?
I’m really hoping that with this upgrade I can stand a chance against my friends couple decks! He has a modified Veloco-ramp-tor with cascade and a sliver deck that just waxes everything by turn 3-4
Slivers hate boardwipes and targeted removal on their combo slivers.
Mindlock orb to prevent tutors
This deck looks really fun but also one that will turn you into the villain at the table
So what, games gotta move, not pillow fort.
Any chance for a Valgavoth Terror Eater deck tech? Thanks for this great video!
chandra is goated as outside of mind break trap or a spell/effect that can counter a loyalty ability they cant stop you from using the +2, you can hold priority as she resolves to activate the ability and it goes on the stack but most ppl arent running stifle or MBT in commander
I run 3x stifle effects in any blue, but I getcha.
What is your thoughts on roaming throne in the deck? To name demon? Is that too much win more?
Thank you, you definitely inspired me!
What is your thought on roaming throne naming demon??
Seems like lesser nekusar style. But still solid, and a playstyle i like.
This deck tech you can use and adjust for Rakdos lord of riots
Won’t we end up with deck death from a wheel strategy deck? Cause with how many times we are getting rid of our hand and drawing cards again our pile will be gone and we will be dead And if you are discarding your hand what if you discarded something good
what do you think about:
Collective Defiance
Burning Inquiry
Damnation
Incendiary Command
Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant
Khorvath's Fury
Magus of the Wheel
Memory Jar
Rogue's Passage
Runehorn Hellkite
Solphim, Mayhem Dominus
Sulfuric Vortex
Untimely Malfunction
Wheel of Fate
Withering Torment
Yawgmoth's Will
and the new guy on the block: Scrawling Crawler
I like this. Have you considered Descent into Avernus in here? I know it benefits the opponents as well, but it's kind of a pet card for me. You are the first to benefit from it obviously, the damage it causes to them helps your overall goal and gives you good ramp because your spells are often a little on the higher end. Or if you have Archfiend of Despair in play, a few turn rotations and the table is dead.
How do we protect against board wipes?
Been using him with a Roaming Throne and Bloodchief Ascension and he's a massive salt generator. Roaming Throne doubles all the triggers for demons and it just gets FILTHY in a couple turns with a wheel deck
which demons? Only 3 in mine, including valgavoth
@@Mark101dg Valgavoth, Other Valgavoth, Bloodletter, Archfiend of depravity, Vilis, Shelob... I'd have to dig out the deck list
@@SergeiMosin Bloodletter and Archfiend of Depravity I can see do some good work. Not sure about other valgavoth and Vilis, those don't really offer any synergy. Shelob has green, so can't work. You do give me an idea though, Archfiend of Despair as well as Sower of Discord might be nice.
Knew this one would be a good deck, sad that I didn't buy one waiting for the pre release first
But I remember people saying this Valgavoth would be not good
Damn totally got the same deck idea. I do almost the exact same deck.
I like the add-ins you have though no it's not that I didn't know about I see you
Kind of makes me laugh when people think Valgavoth isn't a good commander
I try to stay away from symmetrical effects and still having a bit of trouble surviving as Valgavoth. I'm playing Revenge of Ravens, Bazilisk Collar, Blessing of Belzenok, Bloodchief ascension and such cards to gain life, but it's still a challege. I checked some most liked decks on Moxfield and didn't see an answer
Bloodthirsty Conqueror and Exquisite Blood maybe?
@@jonathanloiseau7981 thank you for tips, although I tend to go for budgets I will consider them
I love this deck, been playing it non stop. But i've been playing it wrong lol. Valgavoth doesn't trigger for each opponent every turn....he only triggers once, to that specific opponent on their turn. I assumed valgavoth saw all 3 of my opponents taking life and drawing three each turn lol. I was drawing 9 cards per cycle, oops....
Had the same thing happen. You live and learn. He is still insane. You can lay him down and by the time your turn comes back to you he could be a 7/7 lmao.
RTFC baby.
Looks great man 😀.
This is a pretty fair deck. Definitely a 7. 😎😎😎
What about Ojer Axonil.? If you want to ping opponents, PENG them instead
This guy takes too much caffeine in the morning 😂
It's okay I didn't have friends anyway
why cursed mirror?
The flexibility is insane ! Sometimes having 2 wheel pay offs instead of one can be the difference between winning that turn and passing the turn
Please do Kona Rescue Beastie!
Trust me: RUN PRICE OF GLORY.
Those who say "it's land destruction" are wrong. It forced ppl to play around the card in other ppls turn not theirs.
Yes the pod will hate you but you will control all those counter spells 😂😂
Deck needs like 5 more lands
You only draw 1 card per players turn.
heck yea
So this deck is Nescar in a trench coat
The title is wrong. Technically Valgavoth is an Elder Demon...
Yes, I'll show myself out now, thank you
Shut up.
I liked and here's a comment 🙂
Sweet
woo hoo
I love Valgavoth, but I have not figured out yet, how to handle 3 enemies at once. The deck is cool, but you surely get the hate of alle enemies and that's the point, while Valgavoth constantly does damage to all opponents (and to the own player sometimes), it has nothing to really survice against 3 players all at once...
EDIT: I like, that your deck idea goes more on discarding, that helps dealing more damage and weakening the enemy, so you can handle the hate a bit better!
Add disrupt decorum and some other goad cards so it at least can give you a turn or two to have the heat taken off you.
Kardur Doomscourge, Karazikar the eye tyrant, disrupt decorum, no mercy, gix yawgmoth praetor, soul shatter, gix's command, whip of erebos, screaming nemesis, exsanguinate, blood moon. Try those and report back :)
worse nekusar
Only if you focus largely on Wheels. If you add in mill outlets, it would work just as well imo
You are reading valgavoth wrong. He has the potential to trigger 3x3=9 times each rotation. Read the card again.
How about I show you this uno reverse card instead 😜
On each of their turns. Not every turn.
I read it wrong to when I 1st played it.
@@mwinning gotcha, thanks. have to remind myself to read things 3+ times these days. it used to be so much simpler lol
@docsample I played 3 games thinking I was good. Just one simple word that you overlook and then go, shit.
I’m really hoping that with this upgrade I can stand a chance against my friends couple decks! He has a modified Veloco-ramp-tor with cascade and a sliver deck that just waxes everything by turn 3-4
So is this from the stock deck or from the budget build you have already done!?