Why do I believe in a pre-tribulation Rapture - Gene Kim - Online Revival Meetings 2021
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- Join Dr Gene Kim as he does a Bible Study on the rapture of the church. During this Bible lesson Pastor Gene Kim clearly explains why he believes in a pre tribulation rapture instead of post tribulation rapture or even as some teach and believe a mid Trib rapture!
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Open Bible Baptist Church is a King James Bible believing church in Sydney Australia. We still sing the old fashioned hymns and having preaching from the Bible!
Date: 11/09/2021
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Our church began in Sydney in 2001 after a group of saved Bible believing baptists came together and desired to have a church that truly believed and taught the King James 1611 Bible (AV1611) is the word of God. They grew weary and tired of being in churches that just used the KJV and claimed they believed it only to have the pastors and teachers claim later that it had errors and contradictions.
The group then sought out a pastor and meeting place. In a short time God provided both! The group contacted and visited Pastor John Wheat in Queanbeyan NSW who believed the Bible and had started a Bible believing Baptist church there. After this group of believers shared their heart and vision God called Pastor John Wheat to Sydney to help establish the church there. Pastor Wheat turned the church in Queanbeyan over to a young man he had trained in the ministry and moved to Sydney to found Open Bible Baptist Church.
Wow this is awesome, I am so happy that Dr. Gene Kim is preaching to Australians :)
Why would you even dream of a Pre-Trb Rapture , if you think you are a follower of Jesus?!..Jesus did not pray to be Raptured back to heaven to escape the worst punishment he received from his own tribe and hanging from the Romans!..You are not that especial and you are not really a believer of Jesus teachings but a bible believer of the Hirelings!
hi i dont think it is awesome , because the bible dont teach what bro kim is teaching
The Blessed KJB, don’t care about your feelings.
Psalm 119:89 (KJV)
LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
Psalm 119:105 (KJV)
NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
bro kim where in daniel ch 9 does it say that the last of the seventy is for the jews ?
@@tawidwidkasit-an6930 There is no rapture. There is no tribulation. The book of Revelation isn't prophesy. It's a message to the Church being persecuted by Nero that their enemies would be destroyed. None of it is a literal depiction of future events. God isn't pouring wrath out on humanity at any point in time. The book of Daniel was written a lot later than this preacher believes. It is an allegorical narrative depicting events of the time. Most of what people call prophesy in the bible isn't prophesy. It's an account of events written in hindsight. Anyway, any person who claims they have the only truth is a cult leader. God doesn't care what you believe about tribulations or rapture. It's all meaningless. God cares about how we treat others and live the way Christ taught.
Anyone who thinks this is the tribulation as Prophesied in the Bible, must never have had any suffering. 49 years old and i have been under attack since the day i was born. I had to overcome so much trauma( his video on " overcoming" is brilliant) this is a walk in the park for me. I am built for this moment. I really couldn't be better prepared. While so many around me are terrified etc. I am fearless. People just don't grasp how horrifying the tribulation will be. Like nothing the world has ever seen. The antichrist hasn't even been revealed yet. Covid restrictions are being lifted here in Ireland and Britain. That's not good. One world government is about to take over. I believe the pope is leader and the false prophet( Pastor Genes teachings on that are outstanding) the man of perdition, the antichrist, comes in peace.
I feel the same with the attacks and 52 here. So much trauma.
@@youngjb94 thanks. Was in my 40s in this pic.
I think its a combination of both. 2 legs of iron (statue of Daniel) being eastern and western Roman empire
That would be pope as successor and rising of Turkey
bro kim can you show me from daniel ch 9 that the last week in daniel 9 is for the jews .
Dr. Gene Kim is the best bible teacher in my 35 years and he's the youngest - So he is hungry for God!
From Canada
Through the Blood of Jesus Christ!!!
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Thank you, Pastor Kim! I’m so glad that we BORN AGAIN BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIANS will be RAPTURED before THE TRIBULATION. Come LORD JESUS CHRIST, come!!!
GOD'S gifts are irrevocable, GOD'S all promises are yes n amen. 🙏
I’ve heard both sides I always kind of felt that if there was a rapture I wouldn’t deserve to be in it. Then again I didn’t deserve salvation either!
The Party (last edit 7/5/2017)
Imagine that on Saturday you make a reservation with one of the entertainment facilities that provides for children. You plan a party for your child and his friends. You pay the fee and the appointed time is set for one week away early on Saturday morning. You tell your child that there is a party planned for him and his friends. You do not tell him the exact appointment time. You want him to go about his activities and be motivated by the hope of going to the party. You tell him to invite his friends.
The child is curious and impatient and asks when the party will start. You do not tell him the exact time but say that there are some other things that must happen first and the party will happen at the appointment time. “You have to go to school first and study your lessons. Other things are going to happen first, especially on the day before the party.” Then you tell the child what some of the other things are and especially those things that will take place on the day before the party.
Some of your child’s friends find out about the planned party. Their imaginations run wild. They tell your child that the party could happen at any time. They think it is imminent. Your child says, “No, it is not going to happen at just any moment. It will happen at the appointment time. That is what my father told me and I believe him”
Late on Friday, the day before the party, the friends say to the child, “Now the party can start at any time because all the things your father said would happen have already happened. It is imminent.”
The child responded, “There is one thing my father said would happen on the day before the party that has not yet been revealed. So it is not imminent. My father always tells the truth. One more thing must happen today then the party will be at the appointed time tomorrow.”
This story of the party is the story of the rapture. An incorrect teaching and belief that the Lord’s Kingdom was imminent actually took place while Jesus was still on the earth after His resurrection ! It is recorded in our Bibles. In my 40 years of Bible study I’ve never heard one sermon or one teaching about it. Not even in prophecy studies !
In John chapter 21 verses 15-23, Jesus is drawing Peter to follow Him. Peter tries to change the subject and speaks of John who is there and says, “What about this man?”
In a polite way Jesus in effect tells him forget about John this is between me and you.
The exact words in verse 22 are
“If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow me.”
This caused a false belief and teaching by the very Apostles themselves! They began to teach that Jesus would return before John would die. In other words they were teaching that the return of Christ was imminent.
This was an incorrect teaching and God dealt with it by having John correct it in the writings we have in our Bibles in the book of John. Verse 22 has the Lord’s words that were misinterpreted.
The very next verse, verse 23, makes the correction. It says,
“Then this saying went out among the brethren that this disciple would not die. Yet Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but, “If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you?”
The incorrect teaching of the Lord’s return being imminent crept into the church early in its history. It was even believed and taught by the very Apostles themselves. God corrected that error and recorded it in our Bibles. Why did God bother to record it for us to read in our day?
Perhaps it was because He knew that near the time of Christ’s return the incorrect teaching of it being imminent would once again be a problem.
The return of Christ to resurrect His Church and to rapture the living believers has never been imminent throughout the history of the Church. Consider just a few of the things that had to happen before Christ would return. Peter would die a martyr’s death by being crucified. Jesus told him this on the same occasion that is recorded in John chapter 21 that we just looked at.
The temple would be destroyed. Israel would be destroyed as a nation and the survivors scattered throughout the world. Gentiles would control Jerusalem until close to the time of the Lord’s return. Israel would once again become a nation. Israel would regain control of Jerusalem.
The gospel would be preached in all the world. The nations surrounding Israel would unite together in calling for her destruction. There would be a falling away from God and from the truth of His teachings.
That brings us up to today. During none of those over 1900 years has the Lord’s return been imminent. It could not happen at just any time. All of the events mentioned above and others had to be completed before the appointed time for the return would come.
It has been taught for the past many decades that all events foretold to happen before the Lord’s return have taken place and He could return at any moment. That is not true. There is at least one major event that must take place before the Lord’s return for the resurrection and rapture. Even after that event the exact day and hour of the Lord’s return will not be known to us. It will take place at the appointed time.
We have a prophetic verse that tells us of two things that must happen before the resurrection of the Church and the rapture. One of those things is the ‘falling away.’ This is the falling away from God in general and in the falling away from teaching the true doctrines of the Bible. We can see that falling away taking place today.
Before looking at the second thing that must take place before the resurrection and rapture lets look at the situation with the Church at Thessalonica. Paul had been there and helped them. While he was there he taught them about the resurrection and rapture. After he left, someone by letter or word convinced the Church there that they had missed the resurrection and rapture. In other words they had been ‘left behind.’ In his second letter to Timothy, Paul identified two men who were falsely teaching that ‘the resurrection is already past: and they overthrow the faith of some.’ See 2 Timothy 2:17-18. This was a very serious problem.
As you can imagine, the Church at Thessalonica was very upset about this and wrote to Paul asking for help. Paul told them God would ‘repay with tribulation those who trouble you.’
In chapter 2 verses 1-3 Paul tells them that two things that had not yet happened in their time had to happen before the resurrection and rapture.
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed....
So the two things Paul told them that had not happened yet were 1. the falling away and 2. the man of sin must be revealed. In verse 5 he reminds them that he taught them these things when he was with them. See how easy it is for Church members to be lead astray by false teaching?
In our time the falling away is taking place. The man of sin (the Antichrist that Paul goes on to talk about in the rest of chapter 2) has not yet been revealed. These verses show us that the Antichrist must be revealed before the resurrection and rapture of the church.
Some would argue that the verse that tells us no man knows the day or the hour prevents this from being true. No it doesn’t. The Antichrist can be revealed and then there can be some amount of time before the 7 year peace plan is made and begins. During that time the resurrection and rapture can take place and no one will know what day it is going to be.
So what is the danger of the incorrect teaching that the rapture is imminent and no events remain before it can take place? Remember Paul said of those who were teaching that they overthrew the faith of some. Think about it. Today if a man came on the scene who was clearly the Antichrist and recognized by Christians what would they think?
Many would think they had been ‘left behind’ just like the people at Thessalonica. It would trouble them and it might even ‘overthrow’ their faith. Some might turn their back on their faith. Some might commit suicide. Who knows all the harm it might cause.
Look closely at what Paul said about this ‘man of sin.’ It says he must be revealed. What he does not say is just as important. Paul did not say he must be in power yet or have made a 7 year peace treaty with Israel yet. Only that he must be revealed. Think about it this way. Every 4 years the US elects a new president. The election takes place in November and the winner is revealed. The winner becomes known to everyone. Yet the winner does not take office until some time later in January. It is only then that he has power to do things. Perhaps that is the way it will be when the Antichrist is revealed.
So dear brother or sister in Christ, if you are around when the Antichrist is revealed do not panic. You have not been ‘left behind.’ Remember the Church at Thessalonica and what God had to say to them through Paul. Once the Man of Sin is revealed then the rapture will take place sometime before the Abomination of Desolation. Read Mark 13 - that is when our Lord Jesus says the Tribulation will begin.
Very good summary. However if you read the full chapter the Bible describes what will happen when the antichrist comes and what he will do before the lord comes to consume him at His coming.
2 THESSALONIANS 2
1Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness-the son of destruction-is revealed.
NOW READ FROM VERSE 4
4He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
5Do you not remember that I told you these things while I was still with you? 6And you know what is now restraining him, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and annihilate by the majesty of His arrival.
The coming of Jesus does not usher in the reign of the antichrist but the death of him.
At Christ's coming, the rapture will take place within a twinkle of an eye. And Christ will descend with the raptured saints and His army and land His feet on earth. It is then that the antichrist will be destroyed. A clear picture of this is in Revelations 19.
Thereafter those political leaders and kings who joined the antichrist to try to war against Christ will be consumed.
Then the saints will live with Christ ON EARTH in a special city/camp for 1000 years which is the Millennial Reign of Christ as seen in Revelations 20. And there will still be people living on earth who are not saved. So Christ is not destroying the whole world at His coming cause there will still be remnants. How do I know this? Because Revelations 20 shows that after the 1000 years Millennial Reign, Satan will be released and he will deceive the people living on the earth (described that they are as much as the sand of the sea shore) to war against Christ and the camp of the saints but fire will consume them.
The city that God has gone to prepare for us is the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven in Revelations 21.
Ah well, we'll all find out by and by.
Personally, I'm ready for the rapture to happen anytime now, but preparing as best I can for it to happen (sometime) after the time of trouble starts. Either way things are going to be getting very interesting pretty soon, I think, probably, but who can really tell? It fairly obvious that the Lord wants some of these things to be a (still) mystery and a surprise to all. The main thing is; be ready! 🙏✝️👑✝️🙏
write book..
THANK GOD FOR DR. KIM!!! 🙏 God blessed him with incredible discernment for understanding God's word in ways others simply do not!
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He's a false teacher!
@@drtruthseeker8400 prove it!!!
@@drtruthseeker8400 You can't pour an empty bucket. The fact that you have to be told this is not flattering for you 😒.
Im thankful for this young man, I agree with his teaching , May God help him,,
Amen, praise the Lord Jesus Christ 🙏🙏🙏
Amen, Hallelujah Jesus is going to catch us up soon brethren!
Pretribulation rapture is a lie...Please study and fortify ur mind with truth...You are going to be so shocked to find urself being a recipient of the 7 last plagues during the tribulation..!!
Amen
Amen even so come Lord JESUS come…
Maranatha.
Luke 21:8 says to avoid people who teach what you just said!
For once in my LIFE mate...., I fully AGREE with you 100%!!! HalleluYAH!!!
Hello from Texas!! 🙏 I love listening to Brother Kim. His ability to break down scripture makes it easy to understand. I also love how he references other scriptures to support the message. God Bless!!
Pastor Gene you look so gorgeous!!! I truly enjoyed this Bible study, and learned so much again on pre-trib rapture for the saved Christians and that we do not go through the tribulation, that is the wrath of God for 7 yrs. All true great KJV only Dispensationalism Truth teaching of the Word of God, very powerful and amazing!!!! Thk you Pastor Gene so very very much!!!! Amen!!!! I rejoice in the Lord and in the truth alway!!!!! 🍣🍣🎉🎉🍋⚓🌷🌷🌿🌿🍔🍔🍔🍔💋👸👸💋💋👸👸💋👸👸👸👸👸
Why the lips 🙄
Amen Praise God for this teaching. Blessed be the name of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. God bless you Pastor Gene.
Why would you even dream of a Pre-Trb Rapture , if you think you are a follower of Jesus?!..Jesus did not pray to be Raptured back to heaven to escape the worst punishment he received from his own tribe and hanging from the Romans!..You are not that especial and you are not really a believer of Jesus teachings but a bible believer of the Hirelings!
Amen Ptr. Gene. I am waiting for this topic to be preached.
Yes yes yes! Everything Gene says always makes so much sense to me. And he uses scripture to prove it.
God bless you more pastor kim.
God bless the church in australia I am praying for you bigtime.
Amen pastor Kim
I love listening 2 Dr. Gene Kim. He's a phenomenal teacher.
I Have Been Rapture Ready, Waiting On My LORD & SAVIOUR JESUS To Come Take Us Home !!! , 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, Jude 1:24, Revelation 19:7-8, God Gave Me A Dream Caught Up In The Clouds, With A Long White Gown On, It Was Very Peaceful Going Through Clouds. When I Woke Up, I Was Peaceful& Refreshed. IAm Looking Forward To The New Jerusalem, New Heaven's & A New Earth !!!👑👑👑⛅💒🙏
Peace to you. You said you look forward to the new heavens and new earth.
When Christ returns, Rev. 20:4-6 introduces a 1000 year reign with Christ for the blessed & holy resurrected.
That's BEFORE the FIRST earth passed away, and the NEW earth is created (Rev. 21:1).
Where does the 1000 year reign (Rev. 20:4-6) take place?
What do you think you'll be doing for that 1000 years, BEFORE the NEW earth?
Isn't THAT TIME the NEXT age (epoch) in how faithful believers are WITH Christ?
Have you considered that scripture describes some things that occur DURING THAT 1000 years reign?
For example, read Zechariah 14.
This prophecy (concerning the future) isn't publicized much, but specifically details things happening on and to the earth.
Please check it out, and let me know your thoughts.
Jesus is King
Thank u Pastor Kim. bless all of u
Wow this guy is really making so much sense! Really glad God is is using this man to teach the truth!
Yeah, Dr. Ruckman's his mentor...
I love how he cross references everything and breaks down each verse individually, compares and congrats everything as well! Such a great teacher !!!!! ✝️💜
The month.. April.. 🤔
🙏🌹🙏Thank you Pastor for this encouraging teaching. Am sad though that the church where I go to don't teach about the revelation. Am grateful the Holy Spirit lead me to your teachings/videos. Learning a lot from your teachings. God bless you and your ministry. Greetings with love from the Philippines.🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Kakalungkot talaga karamihan ng church ngayon for prosperity gospel lang ang turo.
Try Behold Israel. I guarantee you will never be disappointed.
Truee, churches here are more on less teachings of the Bible and about salvation through Jesus Christ, like in catholicism that was once my religion but I don't see any change there like more on rituals not the true change and repentance of people being promoted
Yes you can find a church that teaches revolation...surely you can truly
Jesus is coming soon!… I am ready to go home!!!
Being “delivered from the wrath” doesn’t mean we will not go through wrath and tribulation. To be delivered from troubles doesn’t mean we don’t have troubles, but that the Lord delivers us through the troubles. To be delivered means to be ushered into the presence and eternal safety of the Lord, and that is through death.
Peace to you. I agree with what you said. And in the majority of lives, I think "through death" applies.
To suffer with Him, is applicable for ALL who will live godly in Christ Jesus (Yeshua).
2Timothy 3:12 KJV - "Yea, and *ALL that will live godly in Christ Jesus SHALL SUFFER PERSECUTION."*
2Timothy 2:3 KJV - "Thou therefore *ENDURE hardness, as a GOOD soldier of Jesus Christ."*
Romans 8:35-36 NASB - "Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Just as it is written, *'FOR YOUR SAKE we are being put to death all day long; We were considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”*
Philippians 1:29-30 NASB - "For to you it has been granted *for Christ's sake,* NOT ONLY to believe in Him, *but ALSO TO SUFFER FOR HIS SAKE,* experiencing the same conflict which you saw in me, and now hear to be in me."
1PETER 2:21-23 NASB - "For you have been called for this purpose, since *Christ also SUFFERED for you, LEAVING you AN EXAMPLE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW in His steps,*
who committed no sin , nor was any deceit found in His mouth;
and while being reviled, He did not revile in return; *WHILE SUFFERING, He uttered no threats, but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously;"*
Philippians 2:5 NASB - *"Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus,"*
Philippians 2:8 NASB - "Being found in appearance as a man, *He humbled Himself by becoming OBEDIENT to the point of death, EVEN death on a cross."*
*Unless we deny ourselves, bear our own cross, and follow Him, we CANNOT be His disciple (Luke 14:26-33).*
We bear our own cross and lose our lives *FOR HIS SAKE* (Matt. 10:34-39; Mark 8:35; Luke 9:24).
The pre-trib rapture *false* doctrine blinds some people from this TRUTH and reality.
John 8:32 KJV - "And ye shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall make you free."
Psalm 27:14 KJV - "Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD."
Very well said and demonstrated through scripture. It doesn’t make biblical sense that so many have suffered and died, for the sake of Christ, and so many continue to suffer and die, and will suffer and die during the tribulation,(tribulation saints, beheaded for Christ sake), but at some special, particular moment in history, EVERY believer all over the globe will suddenly vanish. This is so Hollywood and fantasy. The Lord has never operated like this. He uses the forces of the earth to accomplish His will, just as in the days of Noah. He will use the earth to destroy the earth. And, it will be in a way that is justifiable in man’s eyes, a natural disaster that can be explained. But it will truly be an act of God, that will require faith to believe. I believe the false “Rapture” doctrine is the “fables” the Bible speaks of that men will believe being preached by teachers with itching ears. It is a lie from the devil. How pleasant and convenient, now, a certain select few will not even have to face death, the result of the curse and sin, which still applies today in this fallen world. If there is no longer a curse, no longer death, than maybe there is no longer a need for a Saviour to save us from the sting and penalty of death, eternal separation from God. This is a man made doctrine inspired by Satan. It shows how gullible and fallible man is. I would like to also say, though, that a person can be in error and believe in this wrong doctrine, but still receive mercy and grace from the Lord by simply believing in His name, the name above all names, the name of Jesus Christ. Peace and blessings.
So you don't understand the literal meanings of words?
@@cassiebennet4262 can you be more specific? Which words are you referring to? Words often have several meanings, some literal, some symbolic. You must have eyes to see and ears to hear and a heart to understand. That comes through the power of the Holy Spirit. Only through the grace and mercy of the Lord can we see and know the Truth.
Dearth is not the only deliverance we have; Children of Isreal were delivered from Pharaohs hand while every Egyptian first born died. T
We need to understand that shallow interpretation of scripture could yield shallow faith and shallow results.
Many are the afflictions of the righteous but God delivers them through them all.
Wow! Hello from Ireland. Don't know how i missed this one, what a treat on a Sunday night! Pastor Gene is the only reason that i know right Doctrine. I'm only interested in the truth. Gods ways and Gods timing are always perfect. Thank you for this. I can only imagine the reception he would get if he preached in Ireland. With the authority the catholic church has over this country, he'd be stopped at the airport🙈🙈🙈
Amen. Glory to God. Jesus Christ is Lord
Quit arguing about when the rapture happens. There isn't going to be one. Everyone dies. The tribulation isn't going to happen. It is an allegorical narrative of the Church being persecuted under Nero. Revelation is about the Church's persecution by Rome and a promise of their persecutors destruction. The mysterious way in which it was written was a common style of the time period. There were hundreds of books just like it. Humanity has free will, we will likely be the cause of our own destruction. God doesan't need to end the world, it will happen eventually. Maybe in a hundred years, maybe in 10,000 years. This end times stuff is nothing but a distraction from the gospel. And it makes preachers rich.
@S:O:L:I:D ok whatever you say. I'll listen to you instead of God's Holy Spirit. Simple question; do you get persecuted for Christ's sake? And if so HOW?
See also another great Bible teacher taught at the same school as Gene Kim formation Mark see Robert breaker Cloud Church also see Through the Bible with Les Feldick you will love them their teaching is down-to-earth and straight from the word and peas in the same pod
@S:O:L:I:D you didn't write the Gospel of John but you're sure putting YOUR OWN interpretation of it and trying to shove it down my throat.
ALL GLORY to GOD 💖 ❤️🔥 🙏 💯❣️THANK you JESUS for being our SAVIOR ❣️ BLESSINGS to you all 🙏 🙌 ❤️ AMEN 💖 ❣️ 🙏
We are Saved by Grace Through FAITH NOT WORKS. Salvation is a free gift from GOD given to those all who will believe LORD JESUS CHRIST DIED AS A SALVATION LAMB for our sins by the BLOOD OF LORD JESUS CHRIST HIS BLOOD CLEANSES Our Sins (WHEN YOU BELIEVE IT)!!
Very good teaching. I was taught this since 1980. Lots of study and research too on my part. GOD bless your work and may spiritual eyes and ears be opened. In JESUS name.AMEN N AMEN
Around the beginning of August 2023, God gave me these words.
To all believers in Jesus Christ,
"WARNING, there is a final push by the enemy to discredit the Pre-Rapture of the body of Christ,"
The body of Christ will not go through the tribulation period. Jesus promised to take the believers to his Father’s house in heaven. Jesus is our hope, so look for his coming and PURIFY YOURSELVES, for he is pure.
St. John 14:1-4 1 John 3:1-3 St. John 17:24
👍, Glory to God Almighty, , God bless you brother, 🙌🙌🙌
Amen. Praise the LORD 🙌🏻
I got say this… pastor gene has some real artistic talent.
LOL - Much better than his lack of Biblical Theology. He just regurgitates, half-truths.
I agree with you Ptr. Gene, there are lots of verses confirming "pre-trib rapture". If I may add, another term for the 7-year Tribulation is: Jeremiah 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. (KJV)
If you are "saved out of" something, you have to gone into it in the first place. So this is actually not saying what you think it does, with all due respect.
@@mattgardiner614 It's written in the bible, it's not my word. It's God's Word.
@@vanjagcaoili3712 I agree with you that those words are written in the Bible. I just don't agree with your interpretation of what they mean. Most people have the so-called 'Rapture' totally wrong. No offence meant.
@@mattgardiner614 Hi Matt its great saying to another that you dont agree with them when they quoted scripture but you shared no scripture or even your own thoughts on why most people have the so called rapture totally wrong....so share away as I would like to hear your views so I can study what you say ....thanks
@@mattgardiner614 true that brother
This guy has done his homework 👏
The word is written in the heart...unadulterated
Pastor Kim is amazing he has taught me so much in such a little time. Praise the Lord father God Holy Spirit In Heaven.
Pastor Kim I have been blessed by your teachings. A few things to consider. 2 Thes. 2 teaches that the second coming and the rapture occur before the man of lawlessness is revealed. The Wrath of God and the Great Tribulation are not the same thing though I believe that both occur within Daniel’s 70th week. People use verses that say that believers will not suffer God’s wrath to prove that believers will not suffer tribulation. Matthew 24 parallels the first 6 seals in Revelation 6 in content and in order but not always the same level of detail.
Matthew 24:7-8 “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.” This is the same as the first 4 seals in Revelation 6:1-8.
Matthew 24:9 says “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.” This closely reflects the fifth seal in Revelation 6:9. Matthew 24:29 says “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.” This is same as the 6th seal in Revelation 6:12-13. Joel says that this event occurs before the Day of the Lord. Joel 2:31 “The sun shall be turned into darkness,And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.”
That is the clearest explanation I have ever heard on the elect vs the church. Thanks.
1-10-23.... I get so much ridicule for believing that when the Rapture comes and the Trumpet sounds..we All will hear it...believer and unbelievers, some may not know what it is...but we ALL will hear it. What a testimony for Our Lord that he is TRUTH! God bless 🙋♀️❤🙏 Love Pastor Kim's teachings.
This teachings is 100% genuine and true not because I lean or favour to Dr. Gene Kim channel but because he's teachings makes sense and I believe in what he teaches and no wonder you and I can see an alive Preacher's like him and it's because they are guiding by the Lord Holy spirit and I agreed and you folks !! May the Lord God bless you with lots of his wisdom so that you can't teach us more enlightening words of God 🙏🙏🙏.
I thank the Lord for we belong to a church who believe
In Pre-Tribulation Rapture.God bless you Pastor Gene Kim.
I agree 100% with you. Thank you.
THANK YOU
Thank you pastor Kim that was an excellent study and well explained about the rapture .
Do A DEEP Study the origins of "The Rapture" for yourself. Be objective & don't drink the kool-aid
God Bless and thank you again Dr Gene Kim
This is such a good lesson amen .
Yes! God bless you brother Gene!
Yes,i am convinced Pastor.You the young Pastor deep teachings.love you Pastor Kim😊
Dr Kim with love, to someone who is not saved it might seem that the way you smile when you prove a point would be boastful and kind of nah nah nah nah nah. Please do not think I am judging this is something that I see in the spirit and I am not trying to invoke any kind of discomfort. I pray for you to be blessed immeasurably in Jesus name Amen.
Amen amen and amen. Great job brother. God bless you!
Jesus said I pray that you do not take them out of the world but you keep them from evil.
The scripture doesn't mean believers won't even die, rather, it means God's protection which is to be provided over them as they are in the earth, however, that is during the church age period where there are only trials and tribulations but not the "Great tribulation period" which will on before the three and half years or the last half of the seven (7) years period (the bibles calls it in Mathew as a period which has never been and will never be in humanity).
Thank you for this video ! Hugs from Romania, Bucharest ❤🙏🔥
2 Thessalonians 2:3. Let no one deceive you, for that day will not come until the man of lawlessness is revealed. Repent and trust in Jesus
Why? - I am surprised you did not mention all the examples of the rapture in the Old Testament. Things like Enoch being raptured out before the flood, Noah being lifted up in a boat above the destruction of the flood, Lot being taken out by angels before the fire fell on Sodom, Rahab being taken out before the city was destroyed etc.
These examples are a strong part of why I believe the rapture takes place before the Tribulation.
Actually they were all saved from God's wrath, which is not the same as the great tribulation. We get "caught up" after the great tribulation, before wrath starts. So this makes sense - everything you are talking about. Because we are not appointed to wrath :)
I wish you weren't so honest sometimes. I'm already on edge! God bless you and your family and friends 🙏
I'm excited for this one, Pastor Kim!
Gene Kim is just wonderful! What a teacher! What a calling he has! Really impressive teaching and conviction! Thank you thank you. God bless!!🙏🏼
The Shabbat is not only Jewish. Christians also honor Shabbat. I am Christian, and I was raised to honor Shabbat. GOD meant for all of us to rest on Shabbat and keep it Holy.
What the hell did Jesus die for then?
@sam perry JESUS gave HIS Human Life for all of our sins so we could live and not burn in "hell", but that had nothing to do with my comment. My comment was directed to the content creator regarding something he said about the Shabbat, which was before JESUS was born! Try spending some time with JESUS and asking HIM what you want to know and stop trying to start arguments and swearing while using HIS Holy Name in the same sentence.
GAIL BECKER you could not have put it better ,mark ch 2: 27 .said ." The sabbath was made for man ' , JEWS ARE MEN , AND CHRISTIANS ARE MEN SO THE SABBATH WAS MADE FOR ALL MEN TO KEEP AMEN .
@@earlweekes7131 Thank you and Amen! 🙌🏽
Yes I keep Sabbath too. It is for all the lost tribes whom God is calling back. Judah was 1 tribe and there are 11 others. The 12 tribes are actually who God is talking about when he says "Israel." I keep the Feasts too.
I am so happy I have been introduced to this guy :) Love to learn
I would have never thought you were a pre tribulation fellow. Who really knows. It's the great debate for sure. Let's be ready at all times.
Revelation 3:10 sums it up. Thank you for this word man of God.
Plus God always saves his people before the final hour. A few examples are God saving Lot and his family except his wife, she did look back at Soddom and he turned her into a pillar of salt and God saved Noah and his family from the flood.
Peace to you.
Is the "final hour" you are referencing, the days of the Son of man from Luke 17:22-37?
But Noah and Lot; they didn’t get raptured out of those troubles, God just protected them while they were still on the earth.....
Blessed hope thank you Jesus my father
Thanks you very much. What a lesson!!!
Hence pretrib makes more sense and the reflection that will look after His brides which include children of the believers.
JESUS IS COMING , PRETRIB IS NOT IN THE BIBLE IT WAS INVENTED BY MAN .
PASTOR GENE KIM 🙌 God Bless you and your teachings! Looking forward to more teachings..🙏💯👑
He does not touch Revelation 20. After the tribulation and satan bound, it mentions the first resurrection. After the thousand years everyone is resurrected and judgement is given.
Thanks, Dr Gene, Now I understand about the rapture.
His rapture timing is off.
Likewise AS IT WAS in the days of Lot even THUS shall it be when the Son of man is revealed. What day did Lot leave Sodom? Lot left Sodom the same day that the fire fell, and the day the fire fell was the day of the Lord. The tribulation and the day of the Lord are not the same.
@@michaellunet5996 Kim is correct.
Revelation 3:10 will answer all your unbelief in pre-rapture doctrine. I understood him very well to mean the second coming of Jesus is not once but in series including his ushering of the Mellenial reign at the end of the great tribulation.
❤ Amen ! Thank you !🙂💫✋️
Amazing, always back to bible
Thank you for this (your) insightful teaching(s), thank you so much ♡♡♡
Excellent. I have been camped in Revelation for quite awhile and have been to many discussions and bible studies regarding Revelation. I on board with your conclusion. I have also subscribed to view your thoughts on other subjects. All I want is the truth in Christ! Many thanks and blessings to you! ❤️✝️❤️
Peace to you.
Do you believe Christ's words as TRUTH?
John 15:20 NKJV - *“Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’* If *they PERSECUTED ME, they WILL ALSO PERSECUTE YOU.* If they kept My word, they will keep yours also."
John 16:33 NKJV - "These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. *IN THE WORLD YOU WILL HAVE TRIBULATION,* but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”
Christ described just before the end of the age, answering the DIRECT question about the sign of His COMING (Matt. 24:3):
Matthew 24:9-10, 13 NASB - “THEN *they will deliver YOU to TRIBULATION, and WILL KILL YOU,* and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
At THAT time *MANY will FALL AWAY and will betray one another and hate one another...*
But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved."
Luke 21:16-18 NASB - “But you will be betrayed even by parents and brothers and relatives and friends, *and they will put SOME of you to DEATH,*
and you will be hated by all because of My name.
Yet not a hair of your head will perish."
Matthew 24:21-22 NKJV - "For THEN there will be GREAT TRIBULATION, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And unless THOSE DAYS were shortened, NO FLESH would be saved; but for the ELECT’s sake THOSE days WILL BE SHORTENED."
Please also see to Mark 13:19-20, 24-27.
@@walkinthelight1748 thank you for this beautiful reminder of Christ's spoken Word. I m saved by His Amazing Grace. Blessings to you. ❤️✝️❤️
@@mimilights You're welcome.
Christ is right. I'm just repeating His words as truth. Here's more truth relative to hear.
The Rev. 12 WOMAN is a part of the obedient church that is kept from the hour of temptation (trial) that comes upon the whole world (Rev. 3:10).
Rev. 12:6, 13-18 describes God PREPARED a PLACE for this WOMAN. When the dragon (Satan) is cast down to the EARTH, he *persecutes the WOMAN there, but she is given WINGS out of his presence.*
*She FLED INTO the WILDERNESS, to be NOURISHED 3.5 years (times); 1,260 days.*
Satan spews out a flood AGAINST the woman *but the EARTH HELPED the WOMAN.*
The PLACE God prepared, *where the WOMAN FLED TO,* appears to be on EARTH. Otherwise, how could the EARTH help her?
She's in the wilderness for 1,260 days; being nourished for that 3.5 year (Rev. 12:6, 14) period of great tribulation (Rev. 13:5, 7), & 42 month two witness' ministry (Rev. 11:2-3).
She is *alive and remains* ON EARTH *UNTIL the COMING of the Lord (1These. **4:15**-17).*
Rev. 12 also reflects some Daniel 12 prophecy.
Daniel 12:10 NKJV - *“Many shall be purified, made white, and REFINED,* but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand."
Isaiah 48:10 (NASB) - "Behold, *I have REFINED you,* but not as silver; I have tested you *in the FURNACE of AFFLICTION."*
Daniel 12:7-10, many are purged, purified, and *REFINED.* He shall be saved, YET SO as BY FIRE (1Cor. 3:15; 1Pet. 1:5-9; 4:12-19).
Scripture informed us that Satan and the beast will *make war against the saints & prevail against them (Rev. 12:17; 13:5, 7-9,15).*
Revelation 13:7 NKJV - "It was granted to him to *make war with the SAINTS and to overcome them.* And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation."
Revelation 13:5 NKJV - "And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue *for FORTY-TWO months."*
*For FORTY-TWO months (3.5 years or 1,260 days)* the beast will wear out the SAINTS, destroy the holy people, and scatter their power (Dan 7:21, 25; 8:24; 12:7).
Revelation 12:17 NKJV - "And the dragon was enraged with the WOMAN, *and he went to MAKE WAR with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."*
Revelation 14:12-13 NKJV - "Here is *the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.*
Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, 'Write: *Blessed are the DEAD who DIE IN the Lord FROM NOW ON.* Yes,' says the Spirit, 'that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them."
These had *won victory over the beast (and dragon)* by dying and going to heaven (Rev. 15:2-5).
Revelation 12:11 NKJV - “And *they overcame HIM by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and THEY did NOT love their lives TO the DEATH."*
*People are killed* for NOT worshipping the beast or His image (Rev. 13:15).
It's just *what SCRIPTURE truth describes.* Remember the fifth seal in Rev. 6:9-11.
Revelation 6:9-11 NKJV - "When He opened the fifth seal, *I saw under the altar the SOULS of those who HAD BEEN SLAIN for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.*
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, 'How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?'
Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that *they should rest a little while longer, UNTIL* both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, WHO WOULD BE *KILLED* AS *THEY WERE, was completed."*
Rev. 6:9-11 described righteous *souls, who HAD BEEN SLAIN* (killed on earth), *under the altar* in heaven, interacting with the Lord; asking when their blood would be *avenged on those who dwell on the earth.*
These dead are *present with* the Lord, under the altar described *in heaven* (Rev. 8:3; 9:13).
They, *and their brethren who would be killed,* are who overcome (Rev. 12:11; 13:7-15; 20:4-6).
The scripture said more people WOULD BE *KILLED* AS *THEY WERE.*
The *great multitude* of *Rev. 7:9-14* are saints who *DIE;* they came (to heaven, dying) out of great tribulation (Rev. 7:14).
These were washed (Rev. 7:14) and are described to be [IN HEAVEN] *before His throne* and serving *in His temple* (Rev. 7:15) UNTIL they're resurrected (Rev. 20:4-6).
They were added to the *Rev. 6:9-11 souls,* and their blood is avenged as of *Rev. 19:2.*
Although the bride is mentioned as having prepared herself in Rev. 19:7-9, some are still *alive on earth* (Rev. 12 woman) *UNTIL the COMING of the Lord* (1Thes. 2:19; 4:15).
*IF we suffer with Him, we will also reign with Him (Rom. 8:17-18; 2Tim. **2:12**).*
Immediately AFTER Tribulation of those days, Christ COMES (Matt. 24:29-31; Mark. 13:24-27), and *will bring WITH Him those who SLEEP (DIE) in Jesus (1Thes. **4:14**).*
Those who die (Rev. 14:13) are resurrected, HOLY & BLESSED, having part in the FIRST RESURRECTION (Rev. 20:4-6), AT His Coming (1Cor. 15:23); 1000 years before the rest of the dead (Rev. 20:5).
@@walkinthelight1748 my prayer group did the most amazing deep study of Revelation. I loved it. I truly believe that we are in end times. The Holy Spirit has been speaking to me. I crave the Bible more than ever. It’s as if God has opened my heart up like never before and I no longer struggle with what God is saying. Of course, I’ll never know it all until He brings me HOME! Things are getting bad on earth but there is still so much good and love. Nobody can squash the Holy Spirit! And, the battle was won on the Cross! Blessings to you for taking the time to share with me. I long for His return but there is still so much work for us to do. I go thru tremendous scoffing but I no longer care. I just go to His secret place and pray and He brings me out all.the.time. Thank God for people like you. Keep going. ❤️✝️❤️
Which is safer, being spiritually prepaired for tribulation that you aren't going to have to endure?? Or not being spiritually prepared for tribulation that you will indeed need to endure???
Why are there so many prophecied to be offended as a result of tribulation in the end and fall away??? Who are the saints that are being slain during this time period???
AMEN!!!
Pastor Gene Kim is an authority. The Master of masters of Divinity...
A lot of very interesting comments… I am guessing a lot of people who left negative comments did not actually listen to the video at all…
Happy that I found your teaching you are 100 % correct on your teachings exactly what the Bible says I pray that the holy spirit opens up the hearts and minds of people who just can not see what the Bible says blew me away I found a teacher who teaches the truth so much false teachings out there the devil is busy.....God Bless you my brother see you on the way up !!!!
The church will go through the Tribulation but not the wrath of God. Jesus would have no need to warn us in St Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 if we were not going to face tribulation. We have to suffer for Christ.
Maranatha!
Thank you Pastor Gene, for the clarification……✝️
Thank you Pastor Gene! Finally it all makes since. May God Bless you.
Kim Rock's
Amen thank pasyor gene kim
Excellent study, thank you Dr Kim
You are so right... I also believe the same ❤
Why I believe the Bible over you.
Matthew 24, and 25.
If you were the devil and you knew that you were going to be battling the church in the end, how and what would you do to the church beforehand?
Control schools, bible colleges and teachings so as to unprepared Christian's for final battle? Divide them into different theologies, so they battle themselves? Do anything to keep the truth of the POWER that is truly in them? Create ways to control their teachings and growth? (501C3) avoid prosecuting those that were sufficiently decieved so as to render them toothless until their own final battle?
Woohoo pre trib🥳
Peace to you. I agree with you that we should believe bible truth over people's philosophy and/or misinterpretations.
I agree with you that the enemy active, subtly attempting to lull the body of Christ to sleep; to keep us from watching, being prepared, being spiritually minded, and edifying each other.
The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God...
We ought to fight the good fight of faith, and strive to enter in at the straight gate.
Did you mean the great tribulation as the end where the church battles?
Rev 3:10-Kindly read and interpret
@@danieledwards2446 instead of cherry picking half of a verse, read the whole message of Revelation 3!
Rev 3 :10 says "because they have patiently ENDURED" something, they will recieve something in return.
What have they patiently endured? What will they recieve for it?
Protection from further need of patiently enduring? Nowhere does it say in this passage anything about a Rapture, or how they will avoid the hour of temptation. How did lot avoid trouble? How did Daniel? How did anyone in the Bible avoid trouble? Faith in God got them THROUGH it unscathed!
No difference in this passage here, because they have been perfect they will be safe through it.
Then what about rev 3:15-16?
Please explain how you can avoid that warning from Jesus, and claim 3:10 as your own by doing nothing to deserve it?
I love this guy.
I wish I could pull up this knowledge when getting in arguments with post-tribulation believers.
Is there any scripture for a pre trib rapture? I'm open for a debate, and I will believe anything the scripture says (KJV)
@@jessicahardacre6035 Watch the video.
@@jessicahardacre6035 Don't use the argument "Is their any scripture for a pre-trib rapture," because the same can be said to mid-trib, pre-wrath or post-trib. There's no scripture that directly "support" them. Asking such question is what the Muslims do. "Show me in the Bible where Jesus said, 'I am the Son of God, worship me.'"
@@scottdunn2178
Catching Away & Jesus' Coming to Earth Compared:
Sequence of events at the rapture based on John 14:2-3, 1Cor 15:51-52 and 1Thess 4:16-17.
1)The Lord *himself* will descend from heaven _to the clouds._
2)The dead in Christ will rise.
3)Those alive and remain will be changed and put on incorruptible bodies.
4)They will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
5)They will ascend to heaven to inhabit the dwelling places Jesus has prepared for them.
Sequence of events after the tribulation based on Zech 14:4 Matt 13:40-42, 49-50; 24:29-31, Mark 13:26-27 and Rev 19:11 to Rev 20:6
1)The Lord will descend from heaven _to earth_ somewhere in Rev 19:11-18 *followed by the armies of heaven.*
2)An angel will call out in a loud voice to the birds to gather together.
3)The Lord will sit his feet on the Mount of Olives.
4)The beast and the kings of the earth will gather their armies for battle _at the battle of Armageddon._
5)Defeat of the beast and his armies at the battle of Armageddon
6)Casting of the beast and the false prophet into the lake of fire.
7)Killing of the rest of their armies with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the white horse.
8)During these times is the separation of wheat and tares, good fish and bad fish and the gathering of elect.
9)A mighty angel having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand is a great chain will come down from heaven.
10)Capture of satan and his casting into the Abyss or bottomless pit.
11)Setting up of thrones for those who've been given authority to judge.
12)Coming to life of those *martyred during the tribulation.*
a. They were beheaded
b. They did not worship the. beast or image.
c. They did not receive his mark.
13)They will reign with Christ for a thousand years.
By comparing the 2, it's clear that rapture and the Jesus' coming to earth are different events happening at different times.
@@scottdunn2178 Romans 11:7, 28 and 2Tim 2:10 is where you can find that "his elect" are the elect among the Jews. And his elect in Matt 24:31 involves only the living as Matt 24:22 implies that none of the elect will die during the trib. This view just dawned on me few days ago.
"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved(survived): *but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."*
It also helps if you know the definition of both "Gather" and "Catch."
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Day of the Lord is armigeddon not the Rapture
Read 1 Thessalonians 5, because it is connecting the rapture to the day of the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 5:1 begins with the conjunction word but which implies a continuation of what was spoken prior to what is continued spoken in 1 Thessalonians 5:2. What was spoken prior to 1 Thessalonians 5, and what is continued spoken in 1 Thessalonians 5:2?
I am watching this video four days after you drew on the board with the fire coming out of the Earth and on the news it just showed Fire coming out of the land just like you drew on the board! I I am so excited to be living in these times but I am greatly saddened for what the people of Israel, turkey and Syria are going through now; knowing that most of those people will go to hell if they don't accept Jesus as their savior
You got it Right! We are not Appointed onto Wrath! This is Why We will be Raptured Soon!
The easy way to know, about a pre rapture is. Is because our salvation in this time of grace is different from the tribulation salvation.
I dont subscribe to that .
This is not about a no works grace some sadly equate to a kinda happy go lucky no faith grace.. we are saved by grace through faith. I.e. salvation gift not of ourselves that any may boast of achieving, yes!
But ALSO our Faith that grows through obedience to Christ's teachings may look like works, as apostle Paul put it, "Faith without works is dead". So the fact remains His Grace and our Faith (or the Faith measure He has given each of us) go hand in hand for every non stagnant believer of Christ/Jesus the Lord God, divine only begotten Son of God the Father.
Even for those who would be coming restored a remnant of true Jewish believers in Jesus (ie the SAME messiah alone not by name only but by the Deliverance provision He has done at the cross for one's eternal destiny after this life here on earth).
The only difference is there is a purpose of God's orchestration for them in setup over in Jerusalem/Israel. The LORD Jesus will be back soon. 2nd Thess 2 first.
@@trulyso734
You mean James said faith with out works is dead. But I get what you saying.
I have only one question, on which i cannot get an answer. I am strongly convinced ,that unfortunatelly rapture will be after the trib.
Believe me , i would be most happy person to be wrong on that one!
Why i belive it?
1.
1Cor 15:52: "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."
Comment:
Rapture = resurection
2).
Rev 20:4-5: "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."
Comment:
People who participated in first resurrection are the saints.
Also, people who did not bow down to the beast, its image and did not take his mark participated in FIRST resurection.
Conclusion: because we know that mark of the beast, its image, etc are in the tribulation and people who takes part in 1st resurrection which is at the same time as the rapture are recognised by John as those who did not take mark, did not worship beast, etc that clearly means that it has to be after those events...
I am sorry for my english and logic, i hope i made myself clear...i pray for all of us to endure till the end, because rought times are comming....
I do not want to argue, just wanted to share , open discussion panel, God bless all who belong to Jesus :-)!
@irkairenka8552 You are very correct. I came to this same conclusion after studying on this subject more.
Understand your points. Yes Im ready to lay down my life for Christ too. No fear of that. But btw, I think 1 Cor 15.51-52 should be read closely in parallel to the future unfoldings in Revelation.
In any case if I may be so bold to share it here, (who knows the consequences)..
My present practical griefs are over how strange the world is now to me. And i am just hanging in there but pretty much very feeling dioriented and disconnected already given all the world elite's threats to my personal space. We are chipped or gonna get forcefully chipped with something under the skin all scannable like a shelf product? and or to turn out some logo on the right hand / forehead now coz "science" of our wef kings ?!? And does this channel suggest it is un-christian for anybody to refuse / politely but utterly turn down that offer and call it out as a Breach of HUMAN rights to mandate things with an obvious desire to starve out ie depopulate and kill millions by that indescribably ludicrous design of no buying/selling for survival needs without this stuff.. which I'd argue is Demonically charged; something we ought to pull down in prayer rather than attacking fellow believers walking in the light!
Sure hope my christian brothers and sisters are praying for authorities of the day to have conscience enough against co-contributing to such disasters in complying to such demonic asks against its own people !
How do we interpret Rev 3:10
Why are the rest of the dead not coming forth at the resurrection of the saints where rewards are being given before the last judgment takes place.
Why are the people mentioned here in the first resurrection only those in tribulation who were beheaded and not every saint that has ever lived including those who may have died from minor illnesses?
Why is God pouring out his wrath especially with the concentration in the middle east during the tribulation period?
Does God judge or punish before a warning (check his previous record with; Noah and his generation, Lot and Sodom/Gomorah, Jonah and Niniveh and the coming of Babylona empire against Isreal).
Find (probe) out from scriptures the purpose of tribulation then you will understand whether it is meant for you as the church or not?
Find out on how the 144000 and how they will be raptured to be with Christ.
Find when or at what point Christ is bring back salvation to the gentiles according to the book of Romans.
Praised Be God Almighty Adonai Yahweh, Yeshua, and The Holy Spirit. Amen!!!! From South Africa, Theo Van Der Wath