Indeed the movement is beautiful. If anyone is ever in doubt that P.P. has earned it's place at the absolute pinnacle of Geneva watchmaking, I need olny refer them to this video!!
@@burritomaker69 Without question! Not to mention that A. Lange has it's cases made by Glashutte Original. Don't get me wrong, if someone wanted to give me a Dato or a Lange 1 I wouldn't refuse it. But I consider them to be movement, and finish work specialists. Patek does it all, and damn good too!
This watch was supposed to be for younger customers. More sportier than the 5170, more casual, larger. ( classic Arabic numerals instead "baton hour, " syringe style hands , tachometer scale). The lugs and pushers of the new ref 5172 are amazing ! I saw this one in person. The overall style relates to PP ref 1463. Why they should do new and another reference similar to the previous one ? This is PP , not Rolex. Patek already offers a classic dress-style chrono e.g current 5370 ( split) and non produced 5170.
And when they make that one, somebody’s gonna ask for a no date version, and when they make a no date version, somebody’s gonna ask for a 2 hander, and when they make a 2 hander, somebody’s gonna ask for one with a bracelet
Why do you say in your videos that you don’t polish watches but when you seek to trade in the reps quote polishing as a significant refinishing cost…. I referenced the videos and the rep says you polish all your used watches…. Interesting!
Hi Thanks for your comment. We will refinish a watch if a) the watch does not meet the WatchBox standard for condition (which is roughly at least 90% of what the watch looked like when it was new), AND b) the watch is not considered "vintage" where refinishing would decrease the value of the watch. Some collectible watches are not actively worn, and those watches typically do not require refinishing. On the other hand, many watches have been actively worn, and thus will require refinishing before meeting the standards to be sold by WatchBox. The watch in this video had only minor swirls as mentioned by Tim and thus met our criteria to be sold without refinishing. For any questions about current inventory that you may be looking at, just reach out to us for more information about the service history of the watch. Hope this clears things up and thanks for your comment! --Team WatchBox
@@Utoob8 I know, but I bet a sizable chunk of sales comes from the US market, therefore there is nothing wrong with using both centimeters and inches when doing a review.
No it doesn't. A Lange is thicker and has one and a half times *less* power reserve. Lange is become cliche now. Personally, I'd rank them as part of the holy trinity instead of AP but Patek still rules the watch game. Overall brand-wise, Patek has a much better history, they've revolutionised the industry, make more complicated watches. Finishing is better on the Patek, you've got much more attention to detail. Movement precision: Patek seal: -3/+2 A Lange: -3/+3 They're close but Patek absolutely walks over Lange as a company. Those who say Lange is better deep down know it isn't. Being edgy doesn't make you cool.
@@patrickbateman529 nah finishing and attention to detail isn’t better on Pateks 😂 Lange’s are giving out those hand engraved movements whilst patek is just hand polished, and if we’re talking about accuracy… Rolex is +2 -2 seconds so that makes Rolex better than Patek 🤷🏻♂️ oh and the triple split looks so much better than any perpetual calendar Patek makes lol
@@patrickbateman529 I up voted because you hit on some important points. The thickness and complications being key. Patek is still minute repeater king which is being best at the hardest thing to put in a watch. Patek also makes watches w/longer power reserve. I disagree about finishing, Lange has Patek beat from what I've seen, especially on uniformity across all price ranges, Patek has different levels. Lange also double assembles their watches which is ahead of everyone except the indies. Also Lange has done more innovations. Double and triple split are technically unmatched. The zeitwerk is pretty revolutionary. And anesthetics wise I prefer mose Lange dials to patek save the heaviest patek hitters. Patek still feels like king but Lange is closing the gap by innovating.
If I had the money... I would email you Tim, because I love this watch.
I really didn't want to like this watch.... but I can't stop loving it.
Finally tried one of these on. It’s been my favorite watch for a while. That confirmed it. I’ll have one hopefully sooner than later.
Indeed the movement is beautiful. If anyone is ever in doubt that P.P. has earned it's place at the absolute pinnacle of Geneva watchmaking, I need olny refer them to this video!!
The case alone on this watch makes anything that comes out of A Lang & Sohne look pedestrian lol.
@@burritomaker69 Without question! Not to mention that A. Lange has it's cases made by Glashutte Original. Don't get me wrong, if someone wanted to give me a Dato or a Lange 1 I wouldn't refuse it. But I consider them to be movement, and finish work specialists. Patek does it all, and damn good too!
@@burritomaker69 in what way is this case better than lange?
Now this is outstanding!
That movement is beautiful
Beautiful watch great review.
This is going to be worth much much more in a few years!
Narrator: it wasn't.
@@erikiverson1762 huh?
Beautiful watch.
Insane
Stunning timepiece see you soon
This case but with the dial of the 5170p
This watch was supposed to be for younger customers. More sportier than the 5170, more casual, larger.
( classic Arabic numerals instead "baton hour, " syringe style hands , tachometer scale).
The lugs and pushers of the new ref 5172 are amazing ! I saw this one in person.
The overall style relates to PP ref 1463.
Why they should do new and another reference similar to the previous one ? This is PP , not Rolex.
Patek already offers a classic dress-style chrono e.g current 5370 ( split) and non produced 5170.
Gorgeous! Make mine a simple, three-handed version.
And when they make that one, somebody’s gonna ask for a no date version, and when they make a no date version, somebody’s gonna ask for a 2 hander, and when they make a 2 hander, somebody’s gonna ask for one with a bracelet
What. A. Beauty.
Perfection
You can find this watch new for around $71,000 USD.
really? who has one?
I like it.
Beuatiful piece, however Chronographs are quickly becoming my least favourite movement, I don't think I have ever used mine.
Why do you say in your videos that you don’t polish watches but when you seek to trade in the reps quote polishing as a significant refinishing cost…. I referenced the videos and the rep says you polish all your used watches…. Interesting!
Hi Thanks for your comment. We will refinish a watch if a) the watch does not meet the WatchBox standard for condition (which is roughly at least 90% of what the watch looked like when it was new), AND b) the watch is not considered "vintage" where refinishing would decrease the value of the watch. Some collectible watches are not actively worn, and those watches typically do not require refinishing. On the other hand, many watches have been actively worn, and thus will require refinishing before meeting the standards to be sold by WatchBox. The watch in this video had only minor swirls as mentioned by Tim and thus met our criteria to be sold without refinishing. For any questions about current inventory that you may be looking at, just reach out to us for more information about the service history of the watch. Hope this clears things up and thanks for your comment!
--Team WatchBox
I wish PP had kept the same style pushers from the older model 5170
These "Tasti Tondi" pushers are more historically correct for Patek chronos.
Hey Tim, why don't you also use inches when talking about wrist size?
because the world doesn’t live in America
@@Utoob8 I know, but I bet a sizable chunk of sales comes from the US market, therefore there is nothing wrong with using both centimeters and inches when doing a review.
Not my type of watch... btw there is a hair in the tape
I think it’s a crack
@@travontetheboringgamer8496 no, it is a hair... look at 0:43 where it is a little out of glass
Lange blows this out of the water 🤷🏻♂️ patek is overrated IMO
Seiko is overrated these days.
No it doesn't. A Lange is thicker and has one and a half times *less* power reserve. Lange is become cliche now. Personally, I'd rank them as part of the holy trinity instead of AP but Patek still rules the watch game. Overall brand-wise, Patek has a much better history, they've revolutionised the industry, make more complicated watches. Finishing is better on the Patek, you've got much more attention to detail.
Movement precision:
Patek seal: -3/+2
A Lange: -3/+3
They're close but Patek absolutely walks over Lange as a company.
Those who say Lange is better deep down know it isn't. Being edgy doesn't make you cool.
@@patrickbateman529 nah finishing and attention to detail isn’t better on Pateks 😂 Lange’s are giving out those hand engraved movements whilst patek is just hand polished, and if we’re talking about accuracy… Rolex is +2 -2 seconds so that makes Rolex better than Patek 🤷🏻♂️ oh and the triple split looks so much better than any perpetual calendar Patek makes lol
@@patrickbateman529 wait how did the revolutionise the watch industry?
@@patrickbateman529 I up voted because you hit on some important points. The thickness and complications being key. Patek is still minute repeater king which is being best at the hardest thing to put in a watch. Patek also makes watches w/longer power reserve. I disagree about finishing, Lange has Patek beat from what I've seen, especially on uniformity across all price ranges, Patek has different levels. Lange also double assembles their watches which is ahead of everyone except the indies. Also Lange has done more innovations. Double and triple split are technically unmatched. The zeitwerk is pretty revolutionary. And anesthetics wise I prefer mose Lange dials to patek save the heaviest patek hitters. Patek still feels like king but Lange is closing the gap by innovating.
Tim you’re loosing hair…;)