Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory | The Gundam Retrospective
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- Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory is a 13 episode OVA originally released in 1991 from the months of May through September. Heavily inspired by American 80's action films such at Top Gun, Stardust Memory is loved by some and hated by others. Let's take a look back and see just how 0083 stacks up to the legacy of the seminal mecha franchise.
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The Kou & Kelly fixing the Mobile Armor montage is the Gundam version of the "grown ass men playing shirtless volleyball" scene from '86 Top Gun.
Now that I think about it... you're right. This is the MANservice part of the show like in Top Gun.
Which is hilarious because I feel like most people would rather Kou and Kelly over anything to do with Nina.
I adore the changes 0083 Rebellion made to the fallout of that scene. Because SO MUCH changed as of the Val Varo fight.
Kou and Kelly otp fuck nina
Top Gun filmmakers: the scene is for the ladies
Top Gun fans: this seen is homoerotic
Me: why not both?
Fun fact Burning’s GM was actually meant to be the mass produced Alex you can even see dozens of similarities between both designers
Oh that's awesome! I'll have to go look at some pics on the wiki later.
Actually! The “GM custom” and the GM cannon are sort of the mass production compromises of the gundam alex. The GM custom is still not a mass produced suit but its the predecessor to GM III, GM Quell and the later Jegan
@@Theogrn don't forget the Cluster Fuck known as the Hazel
@@Theogrn yeah. The GM Custom's face is definitely based on the Jegan, and it's face also looks like a Jesta as well.
GM custom use some of the tech got from NT1 which is the Alex, and then the GM custom got partial movable frame, where they make the skeleton for the mobile suit, and it got to GM quell which some improvement, after all of that GM custom and GM quell tech to Gundam Mk ii
0083 feels like the Gundam equivalent to _The Empire Strikes Back_ It ends on so many down notes. Zeon lost the war but Gato succeeds in carrying out Operation Stardust.
Gato's actions paved the way for the Titans and the absolute tragedy that would be the events of _Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam_
And Zeta Gundam will be Empire Strikes Back as a whole considering nobody ever really won at the end of it
Zeta Gundam is the definition of the idea that you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Don't compare Gundam to Star Wars garbage please
Then what would be Gundam’s The Last Jedi?
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I personally love 0083. It's not my favorite gundam show ever, but has probably my favorite mech design in the entire series
It was one of my first introduction to gundam with Gundam Wing and I love the authentic designs.
As I also knew nothing of the One Year war I still love this series. It shows that the good guys don't always win and the good faction can be just as despicable and the bad guys.
Nina still sucks as a person however
This was my first exposure to Gundam all the way back in 1991. Still my personal favorite so far. And yes, Nina is an asshole.
Only problem with this is the protagonist being very whiny. Unfortunately that is mostly a standard in the UC universe. One of my favorite series though. The opening GM backpack testing battle animation is still amazing to watch. The art is beautiful.
What's your favorite?
Besides the unconvincing romance subplot, the show is great, the over the top villainness reminded me of cowboy bebop, and she dies cowboy bebop style too if im being honest. Katoki and co. really crushed not just with the design of the gundams etc. but with the design of the main battle ship, and every screen, radar, etc. you see in the OVA is usually doing 'something' and is not just window dressing or complete gibberish. Especially the radar operator who sits behind the captains, their readout actually changes depending on whats happening with a lot of details thrown in. Nina wasn't an irredeemable character though, she was just written by men lmao. The idea of Anaheim having their own reps handhold their gundams in deployment is an idea that carries over into Gundam Unicorn, with Alberto Vist being assigned to Londo Bell and trying to get Von Braun's grubby hands on the RX-0. Anaheim doesn't just sell Zeta Type mobile suits they force the service package in the contract. It's good world building, her inclusion was fitting, the conceit behind how she was basically left alone with a giant nuke machine though was a bit of a flub.
(Spoilers Tag, if that's necessary)
I dub the female lead in 0083 as Nina Simpleton, due to her poor character presentation. Her inexplicable decisions, some of which threaten the earth itself, and the out of nowhere revelation as Gato's ex-girlfriend left me in dismay, especially when that backstory was not set up at all. And It was a small comfort with the epilogue at the end, when Kou and Nina got back together. In my mind, I thought: You threatened him with a gun before, and now that your ex Gatou is dead, you are all smiles for Kou now? Ugh. That being said, I loved the look and style of the show, and it is still a special Gundam title in many ways. I only lament the messy production it had behind the scenes.
Yeah it's all due to the stuff that happened in the production. That stuff i think was added for extra drama. Where it wasn't needed in the story. Whoever decided on that, shouldn't be making those decisions. lol Should have been a clean romance story. Like it was in 8th ms team gundam.
I really didn't like Nina's return at the end. She SHOT him. Was directly responsible for Kou not stopping a genocidal action, getting him court martialed, etc. And I'm supposed to just think it's okay because she shows up and they smile at each other?
As I saw in the Manga reboot of it that they did, they decided that was so dumb they actually had Kou just imagine he saw Nina instead while she's running off to the edge of the solar system, presumably to "find herself" but you know... she might just also be a fugitive from justice all considered.
I love 0083 and I think the reason it isn't more universally liked is the uneven writing. The baffling unreasonable plot twist with Nina is hard to get over.
Yeah, honestly I dont even think it is a terrible twist, they just needed to actually put time into making it makes sense, and they didn't lol
There is a 0083 Manga that tries to go in and expand it.
@@martinhennigan1113 0083 Rebellion is amazing, makes it clear she was really trying hard for a semi peaceful end. Also makes it clear that shooting at Kou was a Negligent Discharge by an idiot civilian. To the point both Kou and espescially Gato kinda roll their eyes at it.
@@DIEGhostfish really? That does sound much better. I honestly didn't mind it that much, I was able to take it as part of the overall pretty good package so it didn't ruin it, but that does still sound way better.
Nina could have been handled way better. She could have been somewhat of a tsun tsun female character. Which is actually what the original director i think was going for. But the next director, obviously didn't figure that out. And obviously didn't like her for whatever the reason was. And made her unlikable at the end. To me the second director character assassinated her. And made sure to do it with that bs twist. And to add a cherry on a crap sundae, made things between them unresolved. Which also was stupid and i put the blame on the second director. If i could yell at that person i would to be honest. lol
Setting up the Titans makes the show worth it all on its own.
0083 leads to the creation of the Titans, and their destruction in Zeta leads to a cowardly and ineffective Federation in ZZ. The Titans reradicalized the Spacenoids for Char's Counterattack, and ZZ showed why the Federation struggled to stop him.
Then the death of Char sets up the disillusioned Sleeves in Unicorn, and the corruption of the Federation radicalizes Hathaway.
It is a great grand narrative.
I like uc gundam's overarching story but it gets bogged down in the character work so much. Dumb stuff like Nina changing sides at the last minute, Reccoa pulling something similar in Zeta, Char apparently just ditching his entire Zeta "hope for humanity" arc in CCA.
It works really well as a grand plot with all the tech progression and cycles of war but I feel like it doesn't handle character motives well sometimes.
The radicalized Hathaway sets the stage for the progress further into space to bring about the Jupiter Empire, Crossbone Vanguard, and Zanscare Empire, the response to that created CONSENT, which are the second coming of the Titans, which bring about the Illuminati to stop them, and the food crisis results in the Kuntala from G-Reco…
@@cabnbeeschurgr6440my only big issue is the char thing. Dude does a total 180 and becomes the zabi’s, the very people that he set out to destroy and hated, without any proper building to it or character work. He just went well now I’m evil I guess. I get that it’s so char and amuro could have one final epic showdown but it rubs me wrong. Full frontal in unicorn is better old char tbh and it’s not even clear if he really is or isn’t char.
Stardust Memory is the epicenter of the things to come in the Universal Century.
@@brioche496 I agree. The only way I can accept his radicalization is that he just snapped and became incredibly misanthropic after Kamille "died" in Zeta.
Which even then is stupid because we know Kamille canonically recovered from the coma and was as ok as a child supersoldier could be after seeing what he saw.
Man, I never thought there was a female character worse than Quess...until Nina's actions caused MILLIONS of lives lost because of the Titans and the colony drop.
By the time Nina messed around the Colony was GOING to hit. (In the Manga she actually helps break the colony up for the least possible damage, though that was Zeon's plan to begin with, to only fuck up the agricultural heartland and kill as few people as possible. (The fewer people they kill directly the more hungry mouths to make Earth dependent on the Colonies for food)
Speaking of Quess, I read a bit of the Bektochika's Children manga and have a lot more sympathy for her in that context.
Those riot gear cops kidnapping her? They gun down her friends in the manga.
"Build a Gundam that can fire a multi-megaton tactical nuke? What are we doing, blowing up a colony?"
On the other hand: if Physalis had existed at the time of Operation British Sydney might still have an opera house in 0083.
Monsh is suppose to represent the failings of the federation and the kind of people that the Titans will actively recruit from the federation ranks. Aiming for the power hungry and the brutish rather then the skilled.
A side Manga also shows that Monsh goes on to stick with the Titans throughout their existence and then fleeing to a Zeon Remnant on Mars to escape the war crimes that he knows he committed. Showing that his likes being the irresponsible jerk because that ismwhat allowed him to succeed
Wait, I know Monsh lives long enough through 0083 to join as a member of the titans but he lives long enough to earn a war crime record (Not surprising) being a member of the titans but he actually joins the Zeon Remnant?
Do you know where I should looking?
Wait, 0083 Rebellion seemed to make it like he was going to redeem himself (Something he really needed to earn because he did some FAR worse things in Rebellion than in the base show.) Which side manga had him stick with the Titans and wind up with Mars Zeon (Or is that 0083 Rebellion and the teased redemption is a fakeout)
And the failure to truly deal with them leads to the rise of CONSENT in G-Saviour.
Also would've preferred if Nina was more Gato's long lost sister than lover, as it makes better sense from a storytelling standpoint.
and a parallel to Sayla Mass
same but that would've been a rehash of Sayla and Char but its better than that nonsensical romance that came out of nowhere
@@shadowofthenorthstar989yeah but Gundam does love to constantly recreate Char and Saila
All I know is that song “MAGIC” that plays when Kou and Kelley are working on the mobile armor straight SLAPS and my wife and I jam to it regularly on road trips lol
A few fun facts:
-Gundam 0083 changed Directors midway through the OVA. If you wonder why Nina didn't recognize Gato before despite seeing him properly, that's why.
-At the end of the series, the Federation deletes the data on the Gundam Project. In reality, this is because the GP Gundams were TOO advanced for their time. The GP-01 had insane mobility in space past what is shown in Zeta and the GP-03D is strong enough to take down MAs as far as Crossbone Gundam era.
-IBO's Merribit Stapleton has similarities to Nina to the point that Nina and Merribit share the same voice actress in the dub.
Ironic they considered the GP Gundams too advanced, given that the Federation would later make the Unicorn Gundam
@@buenapilapil5513At least the Unicorn felt like a natural evolution of the insanity of the Nu and Sazabi's psychoframe tech, taking it to the extreme. Down to being able to do more insane newtype phenomena. Plus it's weird that later UC just seems to drop funnel weapons after how effective they've proven to be... and especially considering the downgrade that is the funnel missile from Hathaway's Flash.
That explains why they're such high cost suits in GBO2.
@@timebrain3188 Hathaway's flash, is a story that i didn't like. And is right up there with victory gundams story. For least liked UC timeline stories. x. x
Deleting the data of the GP series was really stupid. Delaz already revealed the existance of the GP 1 and 2 to the public, so there was no point in keeping the secret, and losing all the work and research of the GPs was an incredible waste. But you know, continuity.
Here's some added info: the japan-exclusive gundam mobile game U.C. Engage has some additional backstory to 0083 (then again, the purpose of U.C. Engage is that its story weaves through different UC shows). The first event for the game is focused on Gato during the OYW. We get to see how Kelly loses his arm and how Gato fought in Solomon (how he got his monikier "nightmare of solomon"). The other 0083 related event was the third event for the game's main character Peche Montagne. We officially find out that the Von Braun branch of Anaheim is comprised of mostly former Zeonic and Zimmad employees (we see Orville as one of the mechanics for Peche's Engage Zero; the Engage Project being a base and simultaneous project with the GP series (from what I understood at least)); the official pilot for the GP04 (which became the Gerbera Tetra) was Peche (she actually fought Cima but was forced to stop and hand over the MS). The animation used in the game is here on UA-cam so there's no need for you to play the game if don't want to.
As for the sudden romance between Kou and Nina, yes, it was totally sudden. It was the result of a director change and the result was not good.
Great info, thanks!
Great stuff thanks!!
Yes, this aspect of the series is an echo of themes from the UC that would be developed much fuller later on in series such as Gundam Unicorn. But at this point in the the franchise, such themes were only a hint at bigger schemes in U.C. history.
"Has Kou ever talked to a girl before", when you said that I got to thinking, it's quite possible. I like to think Kou went straight into military training as soon as he became of age, maybe 15 or 16, possibly younger. After all the population of both militarys were so low they were taking teenagers to the front lines at one point. Probably not true as a characteristic of Kou, but I think it could be.
if I remember correctly Kou said he was in the One Year War and the war was just about come to an end so he really didn't do anything. I don't think he was a pilot back then though
@@kmrl5982 that sounds right, I just don't remember how long he had been a test pilot at the beginning of the series. I honestly don't know how long the training is suppose to be for a normal person to even become a pilot in the U.C time-line.
If you watch the show they actually joke that he hasnt.
Kou is literally me, (I have never talked to a woman that wasn't my mom or family)
One of the craziest things about 0083 is that it somewhat ties into 08th MS Team due Cima being a part of Shiro's flashback of the Side 2 colony gassing. There's more to it but it does help explain why she betrayed Delaz and tried to help the Federation.
Cima's weird motives are fleshed out more in a manga about her origins and history. 0083 was a fun series but having two different directors for the 1st and 2nd half of the OVA series was really jarring from a storytelling perspective.
I'm really interested in reading the 0083 Rebellion manga at some point too
oh! so that's why it suddenly became shit
I'm pretty sure she was apart of the group that gassed the colony that was used in Operation British
@@r1l426 the unfortunate truth of the majority of old gundam series either cut short or different director for the 2nd half that ruin the series
@@treebushvery true.
Now wishing the Gundam 0083 Rebellion manga gets an anime adaptation. The manga pretty much expanded and changes parts of the story with additional focus on Cima and even a better turnout for Kelly. It also has cameos from characters from 08th MS Team and MS IGLOO.
People say 0083 is "Top Gundam" and I see the reason why......BUT that also means that we now need a "Stardust Memory: Maverick" No excuses.
THere's 0083 Rebellion which is a retelling of the original, and has a few volumes of follow up covering Monsha realizing the Titans are fucking awful (Though someone else says that he ends up sticking with them, does warcrimes, then flees to mars, that might be a different manga.)
This show is better than topgun
Conflicted feelings on 0083 - good action, animation, and mobile suit designs. But the character work and thematic core seem lesser and shallower than previous UC works - I would have appreciated more focus and time spent on things like the Federation preparing a nuclear-equipped weapon after nukes were outlawed (and they had already won the war), the positioning of the Titans and their use of a tragedy they helped along to justify their formation and rise to power, and AE maneuvering and provoking conflict to ensure their own power and relevance continues to grow.
Instead we got some of the most unlikeable characters in UC, a "romance" plot that is jarring and bizarre, and all in all what feels to me like a lot of wasted potential.
Cima was an interesting character, and her backstory of taking part in Operation British and then being discarded by Zeon after the death of the Zabis leading to resentment and her planned betrayal of the Delaz fleet could have had some interesting parallels with Zeta (her gassing of a colony compared to Reccoa's, her fleet's following horrific orders from higher ups that then distance themselves from them to absolve guilt having parallels to the Federation and Titans). But that's not the story we got.
it suffered from having different writers halfway through the project
0083 Rebellion manga. Read it. It's an amazing alternate telling.
the characters were enjoyable for me, i loved gato since he wasn't just a patriot guy he had some cool moments such as teaching kou during their fight and having to stop himself from doing so. Nina I feel was justified in helping gato since they were ex lovers. The captain of the albion and kous leader was really interesting as well since they had good solid ideas and were decent people outside of work as well.
I never heard of gundam 0080 stardust memory, must be a prequel to 0083. Hopefully he covers that one next time.
Good catch lol
I always felt bad for the guy who was sliced in half by that dom while piloting the white zaku 2...
Minority always dies first movie trope 🤔
He was killed so hard that everyone literally forgets he ever existed
This was a good series with a bizarre twist at the end. I like alpha female characters like Cima. Gato was good and the MS designs were awesome. The animation was excellent. Man I wish they made anime like this again.
Aesthetic wise this show is a masterpiece, the peak of 90's animation, on the other hand, the writing of this is... I rolled my eyes too many times at the main characters, it felt like they were either acting like children or written by unexperienced writers, it definitively boggles down the whole series for me, though the last time I watched was some years ago, some day I will give it another shot.
Mancha does have some significance to the plot, in that he poses the question "why does Ko get to pilot the gundam?" A valid question you can ask any gundam protagonist. And in a way, Mancha is the one who also answers that question. Also by the time the Fb comes along, he's kinda a replacement mentor that Burner was originally filling. Which I would argue also shows growth of character. Not to mention he's like one of the first titans.
This OVA had my favorite Gundam units and English anime endings. “Magic” is so good 😭
Also I love the beam/boosters in this OVA. The light colored and splashy effects were beautiful. Cima is also pretty cool.
I also love the conspiracy the story setup.
Specifically Conspiracy Sector (ep 8 I think) is really good and tense. They really nailed the 80's action thriller pacing with the ending of that episode.
@Tyler Braden Paradise, Magic, The Winner, Oblivion. All outstanding (Also aren't there two versions of The Winner or Paradise, one with a make vocalist?)
Magic needed a better lyricist
my favorite moment was right after the gundams were wrecked and they physically saw each other in their normal suits, kou's shock in that scene really summed it up for me
(didnt feel too different from distant lovers meeting each other for the first time ngl)
Only way I can justify Nina’s relationship with Gato is that she may have been a zeonic engineer during the OYW and after absorbed by Anaheim
Most of the branch of Anaheim that produced the GP series were ex Zeonic or Zimmad, so yeah. That checks out.
I've watched 0083 for tens of times and never realized that Kelly arc could be interpreted like that. Damn I laughed so hard.
i miss the realistic style anime so much. made each character look far more personal and easier to connect with. something about eyes that take up half of someones head just creeps me out
The winner is the one of the best Gundam theme songs!!!!!!!
It's in heavy rotation on my Spotify now
As an Armored Core and Metal Gear Solid fan, I really liked the GP02 design. I believe its the first gundam to shoot nuclear warheads in the chronological timeline, similar to the metal gears, and its got those PHAT legs which look like the heavy bipedal legs available to use in the Armored Core series. I liked it so much, I've added the GP02 model kit to my collection and if youre like me and you love to pose figures lemme tell ya-it sucks lol leg too PHAT to pose.
I remember really liking '83, but I certainly share the opinion that a bunch of character decisions make no sense whatsoever.
Now, next week's series... I'm gonna have to stand up for that one.
Does the GP-02 having a nuke technically make it a Metal Gear? It can't be!
METAL GEAR!?
Funny anecdote. In the Crossbone manga a story is told about the battle of Solomon but a pilot in the remade Crossbone Vanguard is a feddy OYW vet and tells his story about his custom Ball. His ball had a Gundam face causing Zeon to think that Amuro's Gundam was downed. This caused Gato ( completely in line with how he is in the OVA) to abandon his defense sector and let Amuro through to clear a path for the white Base and the GM teams of other ships.
Having watched the OVA and read the manga, I'd say I prefer the manga's difference than the show. Such as Kelly given a main role in helping Kou in the manga rather than being killed by him in the OVA when the two fought at the moon. I hated that part of the OVA and also the fact that Nina interfered in the fight.
It's kinda weird that in the manga the characters are allot more likable
Some the the characters that died in the anime either don't die or die later on getting to know them better before death
Also you get fanservice seeing characters from other gundam's shows
0083 is one of my favorite gundam series, it was one of my earliest entire series next to thunderbolt, and war in the pocket. Yeah, it's not the best series compared to others in the UC, but I think the positives out way the negatives, at least for me. And lastly one thing I think makes 0083 really good is when you look at the story as a whole, it's a tragedy or a pointless conflict with no real winners in the end, the zeon remnants ultimately lost to themselves due to internal conflict, the federation lost many members (combatants and non combatants alike), Kelly died to prove his worth but would've equated to nothing if he lived long enough to partake in operation stardust, gato sacrificed his life for a faction that ultimately destroyed itself, burning could've lived long enough to reach his ex wife again if it weren't for his damaged ms, and ko could've had a decent relationship with nina if had learned to talk to girls sooner.
The continual showing of how complacent and incompetent the Federation has became post OYW
The scene with Lieutenant Burning rushing to break his own cast and get out on to the field is about as close as Gundam ever gets to how real concern for fellow military types gets
Well you've neatly summed up why I enjoy Stardust so much. It's right up there with the likes of 08th for how grounded the MS are as machines. I can glaze over the character issues and just enjoy it for the immersion of the world it presents.
The "payoff" if you can call it that for Mancha is that he winds up, seemingly enthusiastically, becoming a Titan. He helps show that there was always the potential in the Federation for things to go off the rails, even when they were the "good guys".
Such things are great narratively, and a good reason to bring out barely named side characters to give them some development.
Given what happens in Hathaway's Flash, the Federation does gradually become the villains.
@@SBaby Feddies are villains as early as the Gryps Conflict
@@skeeter5076 Yeah, though it's more outright stupidity and incompetence than villainy at that point. They just didn't notice that the Titans were as bad as the Zabi family until Char called them out on it.
But they pretty much become almost categorically evil when you get to Hathaway's Flash. A few decades from that point, you'll probably have them twirling their mustaches and going, 'I'll get those Gundam pilots yet!'.
@@SBaby
You do see that in G-Saviour and to an extent F91.
I think Mancha (spelling?) exists to show us what kinds of EFSF members became the titans, you're supposed to hate him and see how earth became the bad guys. This is a prequel to zeta afterall.
Well they did a good job because I DO hate him. I just wish his character had more to do other than the 1 scene where they help Kou get the Unit 3. He deserved more payoff imo.
Oh there’s going be a payoff around the manga involving that character trust me.
Regarding his harassments, I imagine that people like him were a problem in the military in the 80's/90's (even still today apparently)
@@jimbowlaster3659 In 0083 Rebellion or a different one? Someone said something about him NOT leaving the Titans till the very end and needing to flee to Mars. 0083 Rebellion seemed to be hinting he'd be quitting the Titans at some point, but I've only seen up to Volume 17 translated, has anyone else other than Zeonic done more?
@@Retcon404 Apparently Kilimanjaro episode never happened?
Not having kids in it and not having the "muh war is bad" message crammed into every single frame automatically makes this series an absolute treat.
I find it intriguing you call this a divisive entry, as I've always noticed it being one of the most universally praised of the whole metaseries.
One of my favorite UC entries. Probably the best 90s animation of the bunch. Love the mobile suits. Live Cima and Gato. They just don’t make them like this anymore.
Kou = If Maverick was half-wimp
Nina = If Charlie was psychotic
Monsha = Iceman but more full of himself (twice as smug)
Keith = Uh, nerdy version of Goose
Gato = Jester but brainwashed with extreme radical ideologies
Burning is Viper
Keith is definitely Bob from the new topgun.
This show is better than topgun
This works entirely too well.
@@brucechmiel7964 they even look somewhat similar
For my money Stardust (at least the dub) does the best job of really humanizing most of the people on screen. People act like people, they banter, they bicker, they complain about aspects of their job, strike up casual conversation, etc. I appreciate the effort and it made me care about ancillary background characters since the show makes it clear these are actual human beings. Oh and the MS aesthetic absolutely rocks.
I just had to look up Dendrobium. Dendrobium Orchid is a type of flower plant species found in throughout Southeast Asia and many Pacific islands. Dum but that’s one way to name a Mobile Suit when it was built and awaited testing on the ship named La Vie en Rose. Me being an old Gundam fan myself I never thought to look this all up till you pronounced Dendrobium and I was curious what it meant. Thinks for the awesome video. HAIL ZEON!!!
All the Gundam Development Project units have botanical codenames. GP-01 Zephyranthes =Zephyr lily, GP-02 Physalis = Peruvian groundcherry, GP-03 Dendrobium = Dendrobium orchid, comprising the Stamen mobile suit & Orchis weapons platform, AGX-04 Gerbera Tetra = Transvaal daisy.
I always saw Gato as the main character...defeated veteran of war carrying out one last mission for the glory of Zeon....
I am currently reading through 0083 Rebellion and it really does a good job at fleshing out some of the characters (specially Kou's interest in machines) and it has a lot of cool variants of the establish MSes i.e Chobham GP-01 and Aqua GP-01.
This series has middling reviews?
from the moment I joined gundam fandom I had people yelling at me to watch this, that this is one of the if not THE best spin off/OVA in the franchise.
I see people shit on it all the time lol
Maioly I’m shocked to hear this as well ! Of all the shit gundam shows out there THIS one has middling reviews ??! I think it’s one of the very best and I’ve only heard great things about it !
@@tharealest8190 99.99999% of negative reviews are down to Nina's twist and Kou seeming to forgive her.
@@Retcon404 ironically if you look at the Japanese polls, its the highest rated UC OVA besides Unicorn.
I just gotta say that 0083 is very much one of my absolute favorite Gundam anime, big time (and my absolute favorite is Turn A and Char's Couterattack).
I've heard a ton of good stuff about Turn A!
I can't get over how much the plot of this series reminds me of the old PS2 game Ring of Red, even down to their being these advanced prototype mechs and the bad guy stealing one.
Ring of Red is awesome!
I find it a bit odd that you would say this show was "divisive" and had "middling reviews" as besides the bad romantic angle which is universally panned, this series seems to be held in very high regard by the fandom.
I’ve seen so many polarized opinions on this show so it’s fair to call it divisive
Kou Uraki is one of the best non new type pilot. Right next to the pilot of the Byarlant Custom from Gundam Unicorn.
0083: Stardust Memory is a show I'm very looking forward to watching. I mean, a ragtag band of EFSF pilots and crewmen in hot pursuit of a stolen Gundam and a Zeon fleet? The events that lead to Zeta Gundam? An RX-78-inspired machine versus a demonic counterpart armed with a nuke? Sign me up!
Also, Shoji Kawamori's designs are excellent (I own the old High grade of the GP01 and the Master Grade of its FB version), and in fact, a storyboard artist for 0083 would work on Kawamori's own mech franchise years later as the director of Macross Plus. Just thought you should know.
I really need to watch Macross
@@Retcon404 Apparently the only ones worth watching are Super Dimension Fortress Macross (which would be adapted as Robotech season 1) and Macross Plus (film originally released as an OVA before making its theatrical run). The rest are VERY divisive with their tone/focus change from "desperate struggle for the survival of mankind" to "rock/pop stars are the greatest heroes ever". Needless to say, I think Gundam, with exception of those awful Build spin-offs, has had a greater grasp on what it's meant to be in its many followup and AU shows than the Macross sequel shows (though I WILL watch SDF Macross one of these days).
Oh, and the 0083 Storyboard artist/Macross Plus director would go on to make a show that is the complete antithesis of other Sci-Fi anime called Cowboy Bebop. Just thought you should know.
@@NebLleb The first build spinoff was amazing and I will not hear it slandered. It's Gundam Valhalla where the characters get the peaceful life with friends they were denied in their original series. I've heard nothing good about the followups.
@@DIEGhostfish build diver re-rise is unexpectedly good. Try it
4:49 “South Burning” lmao. So his family is descended from and inspired by William Sherman I take it?
You always remember your first gundam and this was mine. Back in 93 viz comics bought out a comic of this that took frames from the ova. I saw this as a pirate video that was subtitled as getting gundam back in the early 90s was hella hard.
Birth of the Titans
I love the visual design of this show, the Federation looks like a proper military, and the Zeon remnants look terrifying.
Been watching these gundam retrospectives for a week now and I just now remembered to sub lol
I do admit I love the mobile suit designs, from Shoji Kawamori. I also love the character designs, same designs from CowBoy Bebop.
About Bernard Monsha, i don't think was ment to be fleshed out or redeeming, other than to set up his attitude was example people like him are what led to gather and forming of the "Titan" organization in Zeta Gundam series.
I just went through gundam marathon with a friend and he pointed out with Monsha just REEKED of Titan material considering we JUST finished Gundam Zeta and went straight into Stardust memory.
First time I watched 0083 was on Adult Swim's Saturday anime night somewhere 19-20 years ago. Love the character designs, sadly the story is all over the place since by halfway in the directors changed.
Same. The intro with Kou running as the UC years ticked by from 0079 to 0083 used to get me so amped up and remains one of the best anime openings ever made.
Which episode it started to go way off again? Haven't watch it in a while.
My fav Gundam I ever watched so far is the Gundam Ez8 from the 08th Team. No silly hidden abilitys, no direct linking to a pilots mind, no special tricks. Just awesome piloting with rts, good support and a lot of plot.
Dendrobium is the mobile armor the Gundam is gp03 stamen the names come from floral term the Ms that cima use in the latter part is another gp0 Gundam the 4th one Gerbera in the typical Anaheim electronic fashion was sold under the table
Actually the armor is called the Orchis and together with the Stamen they make the Dendrobium. According to Gundam wiki anyway.
@@Retcon404 hmmm good to know
Depending on life experiences, one can still pretty much a child at 19. As a general rule, anybody under 30 tends to look like a child to you as soon as you pass 50...
I suspect the writers of this OVA series weren't much below 50.
love the opening theme
One of my favorite chapters in Gundams library. It really is Top Gun but in space and with Gundams.
This show is better than topgun
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Hearing Fresh Nature at the start of this took me WAY back
Love the DW Gundam series.
I love Stardust Memory. I have issues with Ko, and I like most dislike Nina but everything else about it makes up for those two drawbacks. Gato is one of my favorite Zeon Pilots and GP02 has always been one of my favorite designs because its just so chunky and intimidating.
this is my favorite gundam of all
not my favorite show, but in the top 5 for mech design and animation. i have 5 kits from this, and surprisingly no Gundams yet, but my favorite is the GP03 Stamen. I have the dom tropen, zaku I2, GM custom, GM Cannon II and the GM C
I’ve grown to LOVE this OVA, but it was a bumpy ride getting into it. This was my FIRST introduction to Gundam anime, discovered after I had already started building gundam models. Not gonna lie; I had NO IDEA wtf was going on!😅
I had no idea how deep gundam was, didn’t realize what the UC was, nor did I realize that UC was just one of many different alternate gundam universes.
The gundams are named after flowers in this show. I'm not sure if anyone has said that yet in the comments.
other than Gundam wing this has to be my fave aeries, the music, suit designs and animation are all s tier, not to mention a pretty solid story as well, plus it's basically just Gundam top gun and I adore that film
"God damn you, Anabel Gato has not waited 3 long years just to let you, the unprincipled fools that you are with you infantile greed, stand in the way of our Ideals." - Anavel Gato
So are ya planning on reviewing the Gundam shows by Continuity (you'll finish all of UC before moving to the Alternate Universe stuff) or are you going by the release date? I'm assuming the latter otherwise we would've probably gotten this review before Zeta's.
Yep, release date. Figured it was the easiest way to do it.
I fell in love with the shows ending theme. Definitely very 80’s feeling. Another thing I liked especially back when they still animated on cells is the atmosphere they are able to pull off with the paintings and backgrounds. A good example is the first couple episodes when they are in that foggy mountain area. As an artist it really inspires me
Stardust memory is the second greatest OVA Next to War in the Pocket.
It is amazing.
It’s one of
My favorite UC Gundam stories along with 8th MST. I’ve never really sat down and watch 0079. Mostly because it came out the same time as 9/11 soo it got pulled pretty quick. I watched Chars Counter attack on Netflix once with my family in there and they laughed at it. The lilttle new type girl all into Char sounded silly.
Think the one line that sticks with me the most (from the dub, anyway), is Nina's "Oh my God, what have I done?" followed immediately by "Oh my God, what have you done to my Gundam?". Also happens to be the moment before her character takes a nosedive, make of that what you will.
In every gundam anime, there is always, always a gundam being stolen .. I mean, who doesn't want a gundam, right? Btw, GP02 is the best gundam in my opinion ~ ☢️
Layzner is named after an amazing early 80s real robot mecha anime that I hope you do a video on someday! The Japanese voice actor for Kelly Layzner played the voice of an AI installed in the titular SPT Layzner. His girlfriend/nurse also played a computer voice on Layzner.
I loved Stardust Memory 0083 it's in my Handel 😃
I am shocked to learn people say this show is bad. Personally I always loved it, especially the animation and some of the characters, not kou or nina particularly but w/e. The mechanical designs are beloved by most people in the fandom. I suppose to a non-gundam fan its hard to approach, although that did not stop CN from airing it on adult swim when technically MSG never finished its tv run on toonami. I have honestly heard plenty of people say they don't love it, but I have never heard anyone say its outright bad...
All the gundam names in 0083 are actually named after flowers.
If it had ended with episode 10, then the creation of the Titans would still not be explained, and the payoff of seeing our "heroes" either join the Titans or be court marshaled would never have happened. A HUGE part of the payoff is that. You're proposing removing all of that and thinking it would be a better ending when it would leave a huge number of loose plot points.
This tends to be the series I recommend to newcomers... with the warning that the overall story makes more sense if you're familiar with MSG and ZETA. Also the showrunner changes midway so if you notice some story inconsistency later on, that's why.
Quick questions Out of all the UC Gundam series you’ve seen so far which is your favorite? And are there plot points that you think could’ve been exploited more?
Zeta Gundam is still my favorite out of everything UC. As far as plot points I wish there was more with the jupiter newtypes like originally planned in 0079. I think that would have been cool even though we got Scirocco in Zeta.
I always love watching 0083 due to the crazy awesome mecha designs and battles, but that's about it. The characters are meh and the plot breaks down in the end. I think what actually puts me off is that 0083's themes are totally at odds with those of the other Gundam shows. War isn't a giant, tragic waste, but something glorious. Gato's fanatical devotion to Zeon is portrayed as noble and his sacrifice as ultimately glorious. It almost reads like Imperial Japanese propaganda. Maybe that's just me, though.
Weirdly enough, Nina's design reminds me of Ritsuko's design from Evangelion. Intentional or happenstance? [Though it may be nothing but 'short-haired blonde in a work uniform.']
Interesting fact as Nina's relationship with Gato doesn't come from nowhere as when she is talking to Kelly she yells at him to stop and that he is acting just like Gato. Plus with the letter Gato sent to Kelly this further reinforces the idea that all 3 knew each other at least well enough for Kelly to recognize Nina's voice over the radio. So while I agree it wasn't super well done there were at least some hints. My own head Canon was that the reason Nina was drawn to Kou was that Gato in his youth may have been much like Lou before the one year war changed him for the worse. After all during the 3 fights between them Gato could have killed him but his need to get the Gundam out caused him to leave Kou alive, his 2nd fight he let his arrogance get the better of him thus giving Kou the opportunity to turn the fight into a draw, while by the time of there 3rd fight Kou's skill and experience had reached the point where he could match Gato on an even playing field.
The version of Top Gun where everyone dies
IMO, 0083 has the best art style, at least for the era.
You know, I always thought it was ridiculous that Nina couldn't choose between her maniacal ex boyfriend actively attempting a genocide, and her current guy who wants to do NOT a genocide. Seeing the world as it is today, though, where people are genuinely struggling at telling the difference between people who want to do a genocide and people who aren't really into that, I think I owe the writers of Stardust Memory an apology.
One thing that always bugged me a little bit was that they acted like the Federation having a nuke was such a huge deal, but Zeon always had a new giant city-leveling Mobile Armor Wunderwaffe every 2 weeks.
I was about to rationalize that, but honestly, you are right there.
The story is not the best, but the fight scenes in this show are phenomenal, and the GP03 is my favorite suit by a long shot.
The other part I really like is the lack of newtype bullshit space magic, reminding everybody that you don't need newtypes to have some real horror shows.
Be me, have the whole series sealed on VHS just in case....
I think the payoff Mancha and Co bring asshats is that last scene where you see them become titans. It foreshadows the problems with organization.