"Nago doesn't have any flashy mix-ups you already know what he's going to do." Sounds like Nago's just an honest footsies character, Jiyuna. Basically Ryu frfr
It's not that nothing changed, but that Arc hasn't butchered anyone. Except fucking Zato for some reason. I don't know why people seem to have a problem with strong characters remaining strong after nerfs. That's ideally how it should be. They are still good, but worse and more manageable. And Ky, Sin, Jack-O, Goldlewis, Testament and more have all been massively improved by buffs. Most of the patches usually do have an effect. But Strive bad I guess
Kinda agree honestly, because it barely makes a change to the meta. Very rarely do they actually hard Nerf or hard buff a character, only character in strive I can say I think that actually did get hard nerfed was Zato
The dp is not faster, you could always dictate how fast it was. Before it was made an overhead, ppl delayed the second hit for a frametrap. Now that its an overhead, ppl are pressing it as fast as possible for the second hit
Actually, Shizuriyuki second hit was automatic until version 1.10, some time after Jack-O's release, and the introduction of the manual input did allow you to do it faster. Certainly not a new thing but it did happen. If you wanted single-hit Shizu before, you had to interrupt it with Fukyo.
@@MisterAnimannSure ? Dosen't change the fact that Jyunna is wrong non the less, Also that change is around 2 year old now. Even if what he said was valid, bringuing that up now as if that was something new would still be weird.
@@GuitarSlayer136So one thing I'll say is that he is designed with those drawbacks in mind and some of the tools and damage he gains more than make up for it. It's not like he lost all that and also hit like a wet noodle with regular reach normals.
I believe that some characters by the very nature of their kit will never be bad unless the developers do something stupid. Luke in SF is a classic, that fast fireball with a DP is always going to be great, you’d have to change the fundamentals of the character to make him bad. Nagos core tools are strong by their nature.
i wish how i could play more neutral heavy and make people worry about chip damage, but now it feels like nago is supposed to just send it with 50 50s always
I hope you review the new balance patch that came out with Elphelt. I want to see your reaction especially from what Kizzie is saying that Ram is officially the best character in his opinion and supposedly Asuka getting a slight nerf.
The hype of Verix running the sets back and tigerpop's constant switch of emotions and his face when he lose or win. Watching this live was a whole another experiences lol
It's actually crazy reading comments and seeing people want characters butchered. Strong characters remaining strong after nerfs is ideal. You don't want to ruin characters to the point their mains don't have fun. Look at poor fucking Zato. He got fucking banished. There are a bunch of strong characters I haven't liked over the years, but unless they are legitimately overpowered, I'm fine with their power level going down some but them remaining strong, and helping boost weaker characters to their level. The ideal should be everyone feeling strong.
Yeah a lot of these people dont even own the game, many of them dont have proper balancing ideas based on whats healthy only on what feels cathartic at the time. They are mad at Nago so they want Nago to stop functioning, the double standards in the fanbase are also pretty on the nose Sol nukes you for 70% off a f.S or Johnny does 50% into a gapless 50/50 that will most likely kill and no one bats an eye, the commentaries in TNS dont say anything, the comment section doesn't say anything The moment Nago hits you by burning his guage suddenly out no where theres a huge problem. This community makes no sense.
I been playing again. Think May got slightly worse, but has way more setups and knowledge checks. Most importantly though she is way more fun to play because her pressure is less 1 one-dimensional and I think that"s really cool.
He just got a concentration meter nerf from steady aim so we’ll see lol. I think the main enemy is Nagoriyuki and Sol. Asuka and Happy Chaos are still around that area. But Nagoriyuki and Sol are really cool to spectate lmao.
A crowd popping off for arakune beam super would be hilarious. Imagine he had full bar and did it twice while everyone went crazy over it. I don't know anything about guilty gear, but the fact he compared happy chaos to arakune tells me happy chaos really aint that guy. Guess I'm rooting for the dude with the big sword, who seems to be very fair and balanced with the range on some of these moves..
ASW keep saying they're toning the damage down and yet it never seems to happen... Maybe they're adjust some fractional component of the numbers but the game just rounds up always so nothing changes? 😂
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI their models were both shown at the end credits, along with Slayer so I say they are more than 0, damn it! (ꐦ ^-^) Also, I guess I forgot to write down Venom but I'd love to launch pool balls at people with these Strive graphics
Nago is the mascot of how Guilty Gear Strive functions and is balanced. It's nice to see a cool looking badass black character that isn't stereotyped to hell be so present. But strive is way too street fighter 5 for me. And every time I see a patch for my favorite character..I hate it so much lol. I've learned that I needed to just put the game down and leave it alone forever.
Nago haters are weird, theyll talk about how easy he is to use but have 0 results of their own. This is also the fanbase that whines about every complex character and gets them all nerfed while the monkee characters like Sol and Sin get away with everything.
"Nago doesn't have any flashy mix-ups you already know what he's going to do."
Sounds like Nago's just an honest footsies character, Jiyuna. Basically Ryu frfr
Ryu with a sword
Every time I hear a character got nerf or buff in strive all I can think is oh nothing changed.
Counter point, they added Sin to the game
It's not that nothing changed, but that Arc hasn't butchered anyone. Except fucking Zato for some reason. I don't know why people seem to have a problem with strong characters remaining strong after nerfs. That's ideally how it should be. They are still good, but worse and more manageable.
And Ky, Sin, Jack-O, Goldlewis, Testament and more have all been massively improved by buffs. Most of the patches usually do have an effect.
But Strive bad I guess
strive has always sucked. unlucky, wait for next GG game@@_Deez
Kinda agree honestly, because it barely makes a change to the meta. Very rarely do they actually hard Nerf or hard buff a character, only character in strive I can say I think that actually did get hard nerfed was Zato
It was cool to see Verix win. He's from Senegal and you don't usually see folks from that region in Guilty Gear tournaments. He also played amazing!
Yeah glad he’s out there repping his country.
The dp is not faster, you could always dictate how fast it was. Before it was made an overhead, ppl delayed the second hit for a frametrap. Now that its an overhead, ppl are pressing it as fast as possible for the second hit
what yapping instead of playing make a man say
Actually, Shizuriyuki second hit was automatic until version 1.10, some time after Jack-O's release, and the introduction of the manual input did allow you to do it faster. Certainly not a new thing but it did happen. If you wanted single-hit Shizu before, you had to interrupt it with Fukyo.
@@MisterAnimannSure ? Dosen't change the fact that Jyunna is wrong non the less, Also that change is around 2 year old now. Even if what he said was valid, bringuing that up now as if that was something new would still be weird.
I already know this, it has nothing to do wit what im saying or jinuya is saying@@MisterAnimann
cocomelon character
Nick Jr Character
The character without a double jump, air dash, forward dash, and kills himself he uses specials?
Yeah Cocomelon for sure.
@@GuitarSlayer136me when I make reductive statements to downplay my main:
@@GuitarSlayer136So one thing I'll say is that he is designed with those drawbacks in mind and some of the tools and damage he gains more than make up for it. It's not like he lost all that and also hit like a wet noodle with regular reach normals.
@@GuitarSlayer136noooo blood is so hard to manage 😢😢😢 u probably can’t put the square in the square hole
I believe that some characters by the very nature of their kit will never be bad unless the developers do something stupid.
Luke in SF is a classic, that fast fireball with a DP is always going to be great, you’d have to change the fundamentals of the character to make him bad.
Nagos core tools are strong by their nature.
Just give him 1 Blood gauge instead of 3. He pops after 1 Beyblade. Fixed!
Did my man just save Guilty Gear again in a nested YT comment? Huge.
People complain about Nago right until you offer em a main swap money match...
I will NEVER cheer for Happy Chaos.
Nagoriyuki is super strong, but he's also super cool to spectate.
13:41 Tiger Pops reaction on the top left face cam when he got grabbed is 100% understandable
I love people who say that Strive "doesn't feel like GG" and then say the most GG things ever like, "man, all these characters are so degenerate"
Jiyuna doesn't know how badly Zato was nerfed
GOOD
i wish how i could play more neutral heavy and make people worry about chip damage, but now it feels like nago is supposed to just send it with 50 50s always
I hope you review the new balance patch that came out with Elphelt. I want to see your reaction especially from what Kizzie is saying that Ram is officially the best character in his opinion and supposedly Asuka getting a slight nerf.
Ram always the best character in every version 😴 Where are the RESULTS
Anyone remember when this match-up was a 1 player game?
We need a Belmont guest in Strive.
Faust, eating after every patch. He's a monster
Jiyuna is just jealous Nago has rizzed his waifu Elfelt.
I’m a Baiken main
The hype of Verix running the sets back and tigerpop's constant switch of emotions and his face when he lose or win. Watching this live was a whole another experiences lol
It's actually crazy reading comments and seeing people want characters butchered. Strong characters remaining strong after nerfs is ideal. You don't want to ruin characters to the point their mains don't have fun. Look at poor fucking Zato. He got fucking banished. There are a bunch of strong characters I haven't liked over the years, but unless they are legitimately overpowered, I'm fine with their power level going down some but them remaining strong, and helping boost weaker characters to their level.
The ideal should be everyone feeling strong.
Yeah a lot of these people dont even own the game, many of them dont have proper balancing ideas based on whats healthy only on what feels cathartic at the time.
They are mad at Nago so they want Nago to stop functioning, the double standards in the fanbase are also pretty on the nose
Sol nukes you for 70% off a f.S or Johnny does 50% into a gapless 50/50 that will most likely kill and no one bats an eye, the commentaries in TNS dont say anything, the comment section doesn't say anything
The moment Nago hits you by burning his guage suddenly out no where theres a huge problem.
This community makes no sense.
DESTROY THE TOP TIER
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI RAMLETHAL PLAYERS WHO WENT UNTOUCHED THIS PATCH HAVE NO OPINION
I been playing again. Think May got slightly worse, but has way more setups and knowledge checks. Most importantly though she is way more fun to play because her pressure is less 1 one-dimensional and I think that"s really cool.
I’m on GBVSR
lol as a pot main, Nago has never been a problem for me
is happy chaos still a big issue even after all the changes?
He is now fine. All of my hate is gone.
He is still based on his design overall. But it's more tolerable because the number of people playing the character has decreased
@@kkaerruu Even less people playing him? He was already one of the least played characters down there with Leo, Axl, and Zato.
@@Muniovis_Aspidafos yes. After the recent patch, more HC players drifted from him and now you only have a few like Tiger_Pop and such
He just got a concentration meter nerf from steady aim so we’ll see lol. I think the main enemy is Nagoriyuki and Sol. Asuka and Happy Chaos are still around that area.
But Nagoriyuki and Sol are really cool to spectate lmao.
Picked up Nago before the Elphelt update, he sure was built different.
A crowd popping off for arakune beam super would be hilarious.
Imagine he had full bar and did it twice while everyone went crazy over it.
I don't know anything about guilty gear, but the fact he compared happy chaos to arakune tells me happy chaos really aint that guy.
Guess I'm rooting for the dude with the big sword, who seems to be very fair and balanced with the range on some of these moves..
He gets new buffs with every nerf
Sol is the same way!
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI Thats because Sol is fucking AWESOME
I'm gassed for Verix, so happy for him!
"I love me a mirror match." said no Potemkin player ever. 😆
Pot mirrors are the best, specially if they greet by mashing 2P clash until meter is full
I feel like pot players tend to like mirror matches actually (just based on my limited experience in the tower tho)
ASW keep saying they're toning the damage down and yet it never seems to happen...
Maybe they're adjust some fractional component of the numbers but the game just rounds up always so nothing changes?
😂
Yeah I’m still waiting
Remember Jiyuna showed Sol just did a ToD on Axel because of just one mistake?
The story of every patch is top tier is still top tier after nerfs.
I dont know why i hate hc but im ok with nago being a top tier, maybe its the fact of the block strings and the corner to corner wallbreak
Commenting on every video before Arakune BBCF combo trials, video 94. Its really interesting that nago and ram and HC have been consistently monsters.
I have this weird feeling as nago player that I'd rather fight HC and Leo than Anji
Anjo Spin is good against Nago
As a modern Cammy player, do you think raging demon will have a modern input? Or will it be classical only? Easy content topic
They better make it Modern!
@ANIMEILLUMINATI same input as easy super or some conversion like light, light, foward, heavy, easy special?
Still waiting for Raven, Slayer(though the vamp slot has been taken by DEI NAGO, I remain hopeful for Pile Bunkers), Jam, Dizzy and Answer.
Raven and Answer have 0 chance!
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI what about kum haehyun?
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI their models were both shown at the end credits, along with Slayer so I say they are more than 0, damn it! (ꐦ ^-^) Also, I guess I forgot to write down Venom but I'd love to launch pool balls at people with these Strive graphics
thank god he doesn't have Orange 236D
He got a White One which Is even Better for him
*rubs hands* alright whats up guys
Litwick is a candle Pokemon, ghost/fire type
It's cute
More of a Tyranitar and Darkrai person myself
"whats there not to complain about" like cmon man, plenty of stuff
My man only going casual cuz he wants to give the new kids a chance. Expect a total rug pull at EVO fr fr
GGS needs a neko arc to balance the meta so everyone loses
I just wanna see Baiken shine screw these 2 characters lol
Nago is just a boss character
Nago main here. He actually needs buffs, ngl.
Not falling for this again.
"They sped it up"
No. Shizuryuki was always that fast. That never changed.
😳😳
Nago is the mascot of how Guilty Gear Strive functions and is balanced. It's nice to see a cool looking badass black character that isn't stereotyped to hell be so present. But strive is way too street fighter 5 for me. And every time I see a patch for my favorite character..I hate it so much lol. I've learned that I needed to just put the game down and leave it alone forever.
bruh i hate nag so much
Oh my god didn’t expect to see you here, still whining about Nago even. 🖤 Zato gang.
Jiyuna lost me when he called blazblue gameplay honest 💀
there is no strive tourney without a nago and a nago mirror in top 8.
Nago is worse for me. I main Axl and Nago is a better zoner than Axl is. :(
Give Axl a katana.
Is this satire
My most hated character wins another tournament Again!!!!!😤😠🤬
They made Beyblade a low and i bought BG3. 🤷🏾♂️
I hopped on SF6
i like
It's too bad Strive is a bit doodoo. Xrd was great.
Nago haters are weird...Im happy he made it to grand finals, cause not many do...but Happy Chaos does
We can hate both, just so you know.
I hate all people equally
He is cool to play with, but even I who started to play Nago still find him to clearly be Overpowered/to easy to use.
Nago haters are weird, theyll talk about how easy he is to use but have 0 results of their own.
This is also the fanbase that whines about every complex character and gets them all nerfed while the monkee characters like Sol and Sin get away with everything.
Beyblade is hella dumb. Make that shit a mid again and Nago will be ok in my book.