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Been impatiently waiting for this reaction and knew you'd enjoy it. A slightly more brooding Tom, Ent wives, and early Stoors, of which I believe Smeagol is an offshoot of..... if memory serves.
Just a reminder.. in the Return of the King appendices, it says that Hobbits came from 3 different types of halflings: Harfoots, Stoors, and Fallohides. When they settled the Shire, the Stoors stayed by the Brandywine River and thus were known as the River Folk.
Someone commented on another reaction video basically equating him to figures like Mother Nature or Santa Claus, which I think is a great way of characterizing him. A living manifestation of spirit and life.
My head canon is that Bombadil is Eru, himself. The GOD of Tolkien's legendarium. Why else could he have worn the ONE ring in the FOTR and literally NOTHING happened. He is more powerful than the ONE RING. 🤯🤯🤯🤯👀👀👀👀
I don’t have a map in front of me but I wonder if the promise that Arondir made to the Ents was the start of what would become Fangorn Forest? The forest gains a sentience from the elves and becomes a place that no one dares to harm at one point. It would be really cool if it were.
Eric smilling at Tom is golden. You really should have listened to the outro piece. It's a beautiful cover of the merry fellow song with Bear McCreary orchestra.
I can't tell you guys how much I've been wanting to see you guys react to this episode ❤ wishing Calvin all the best, never easy losing a family member 💙
Season 2 of The Rings of Power is probably the best-looking television show I have ever seen. This series has really raised the bar for mixing practical sets with digital. Also, belated condolences to Calvin.
This episode and the 5th one are my favorite episodes so far, so so good. The reactions of both of you are everything and I've been waiting for this for days. Tom Bombadil's actor nailed it, and i loved seeing the elf-vengers lmao. Arondir is so badass too.
Tom did mention that "folks up at the Withywindle used to call me Bombadil" the Withywindle is a smaller river that flows into the Brandywine river near the Shire, so this Tom has already/does live where up North by where the Shire will be but for some reason has moved to Rhun
So fucking sick we got Tom on screen and I loved the acting too. The Ent and Arondir scene actually got me emotional, I love Tolkien’s love for trees and him writing it into the story.
The theory about Tom I most like is that he is a Maia (essentially a god), maybe the oldest of them, who once the world was created decided to live among his creations instead of in heaven
i know they hinted at the stranger being gandalf, but at this point i really have to think they want us to assume these are the two blues, both in rhûn and both portrayed as istar and it's a plotline that's a lot less defined that gives them room for their own interpretations
i think the stranger being gandalf is a mislead i think the stranger and the dark wizard are both blue wizards, stranger bejng Alatar (darkness slayer) and the dark wizard being Pallando (East helper) both stranger and dark wizard will be slain by eachother with the help of sauron and thats why theyre is no history of the blue wizards other than they travelled east and why even gandalf cant remember their names
The Stranger is Olorin, a maiar from the time of the first song, and who splits himself and all his knowledge\power among 4 other beings. What remains after the split is a shadow of this being, and becomes almost a separate entity known as Mithrandir, or Gandalf. When he returns as Gandalf the White, he has reclaimed the power and knowledge he imparted in the others. This is part of why he had trouble remembering what the mortals called him, because of how much more he had to process. Furthermore, I think the Dark Wizard is gonna be the reason Olorin decides to split himself and empower other Lesser Maiar to assist him with his task.
I don't like the idea of the stranger not being Gandalf... Everyone loves Gandalf and it would suck if by the end the stranger is one of the Blue Wizards. I think he's Gandalf and will come back West after possible meeting the other Wizards.
After this episode that’s now my main theory. Each wizard was given a mission of sorts. Gandalf’s was to be a friend and builder of communities, Radaghasts was to be a friend and nurture nature, and it was Saruman’s task specifically to lead the resistance to Sauron on Middle Earth. I think Tom Bombadil just told us exactly who he is lol
He's not saruman. Saruman had been allied with Gandalf for years. I think both wizards, or at least the evil one, are blue wizards, the ones who went to the east and came to middle earth earlier than Gandalf and saruman
Why is everyone so against him being Gandalf. His friendship with the Harfoots is pretty much how he became so fond of Hobbits. He really lived among them and got to know them well... The show is throwing so many hints that it's Gandalf, I feel like it would be dumb if by the end he's just some random Blue wizard or even Saruman who never cared about the "lesser peoples"
@@Digital111 people are against it because of the previously written lore from Tolkien where gandalf doesn't show up until the third age. personally I want it to be gandalf. People are going to hate on the show either way, so just call him gandalf, and give us some cool wizard action. I'm along for the ride and want to be entertained.
LIES! I get Aaron isn't UpToDate with his LOTR knowledge. Nor am I, but I'd be happy to watch a video with Aaron. I enjoy you all, but Aaron reacting is great too!
I'm late to this party but I'm absolutely loving the buildup of this show, even if they play fast & loose with Tolkien's time frame just so we can care about both elf characters and human characters (I think Elendil & Isildur are born around 1200 years after all this stuff about the Rings of Power in Eregion... there's no way to have the Numenor timeline and the Eregion timeline happening at the same time except to overlap them - that's where people have a sticking point to grump about. That said, it's all the little things that REALLY speak to me as a giant Tolkien nerd who almost followed him into Old English professoring/fantasy writing (sadly, the world has changed in the last 100 years). Case in point, Adar's closing line in this episode was not lost on me, even though it contains information they didn't capture in the subtitles. "Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo" is a common enough phrase among Tolkien nerds: it means "A star shines upon the hour of our meeting," and it's a traditional Elvish greeting. It's one a lot of Tolkien diehards use to greet others in the fandom. It's not just in "Elvish," but it's in Quenya in particular, the older and "higher" form of Elvish spoken by the Ñoldor, and so it's perfectly appropriate for Adar to speak as a greeting to the high-born and already ancient lady Galadriel. (There is, of course, something really heartbreaking about Adar using the phrase, as being twisted at the hands of Morgoth has largely deprived him of the ability to enjoy sunshine ever again, as we saw in Season 1). It feels snobbish to say that the "casuals" in Tolkien fandom would know this Elvish greeting. It's the kind of thing Tolkien fans quote at each other the same way Browncoats tend to quote the same five or ten classic Firefly lines at one another. But I expect a lot of Tolkien fans will have caught that. What really, REALLY jumped out at me as something I imagined was beyond the ken of the showrunners and writing team was that Adar doesn't say "Galadriel," if you listen to him. Even though the subtitles caption him as saying "Galadriel," what he actually says is "Altáriel." This name is actually from the Telerin branch of Elvish, and means something like "maiden crowned with light." It's in keeping with Galadriel's magnificent golden hair, which she inherited by way of her grandmother Indis, and would have been a rare and magnificent site among the dark-haired Telerin. It's the very old, very intimate Epessë or cognomen that would have been given to her either by her future-husband Celeborn, or by her mother Eärwen, both of whom were Telerin. Referring to Galadriel by the name bestowed on her just as she came of age is one hell of a flex on Adar's part. The name "Galadriel" is a loose Sindarin adaptation of this much older name, and the fact that Adar knows it is just a quiet reminder of how very, very, very old he is--probably older than her, if he knew the name she was given when she came of age. It also raises the question of who Adar was: The name "Adar" is simply the Sindarin word for "Father," but can also carry with it the connotation of "Lord," as it does in Sauron's nickname, "Annatar" (Ann-adar), the "Lord of Gifts." It makes me feel his Orc children just call him Lord-Father as a way of covering all their bases when determining what his name means. It may be that he was one of the Unwilling, who never went to Valinor with the Elves, but remained on the shores of Cuiviénen where the elves were eventually picked up by Morgoth and corrupted. This would place him a few generations older than Galadriel, and possibly one of the Unbegotten--the very first Elves awakened. This is deep stuff. I did not expect the show to take such great care with Tolkien's languages and names. It may not have the lasting near-perfection of Peter Jackson's trilogy, but I'll take this any day of the week over the fart jokes and gratuitously lifeless CGI of his Hobbit films. Also, Eric's kid-in-a-candy-store reactions to the reveals of Bombadil and the Entwives just fill my heart with joy. I'll have to remember my promise of eight years ago to send on a copy of my own novels, which I promised to do one day once I got here. Eight years is longer than the professional lifespan of most UA-camrs, reactors, and influencers. I'm so very glad to find you all still here, still successful at this thing.
Tolkien had two ideas about the blue wizards; one where they were doing good in the east, and one where they were setting up evil magic cults. It looks like the show might be using both, and pitting the two blue wizards against each other, with one doing good and one having 'fallen' like Saruman.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't The Barrow Downs where Merry and Pippin get their Elven daggers? Which is what the Elf that got dragged into one of the barrows was carrying
Merry and Pippin did get their daggers from the Barrow Downs, but they weren’t elven. They were forged by the men of the kingdom of Arnor for use in their war against the Witch King of Angmar, which is still thousands of years in the future.
My view is that the Dark Wizard isn't one of the 5 Istari Wizards. The timescale is I think wrong for that. In Lotr, in the Third Age, Gandalf is a member of his "order", which includes Saruman, Radagast and the other (unnamed) wizards. But that is hundreds (if not far more) years after the events in the second age that we see here. The exception to this might be if Gandalf manages to "redeem" the Dark Wizard (who perhaos turns out to be Saruman? - Now there's a thought!)
a great king of gondor gifted the shire to the hobbits as they helped gondor during a war the shire was struck by a plague which killed off all the men who lived there so it was deemed unlivable and the king used it as his hunting grounds until he gifted all the open land to the hobbits and they eventually moved over from bree and it flourished
Theories buzzing around the Dark Wizard as being Khamul. Who eventually becomes one of the Nazgul. If it is him it's a little interesting that he's already a wizard at this point because he has no power until he obtains one of the rings. I'm kind of wondering if the stuff with the Harfoots might be on a different timeline because technically Gandalf isn't supposed to be around at this point in the story either.
it is mentioned that humans can learn magic, i know the Hobbit movies aren't 100% accurate but Saruman does mention that the "Necromancer" will be nothing more than a mortal conjurer dabbling in some black magic, and im certain there are some actual mentions of stuff in Tolkiens own works about similar things, even the Dwarves can do actual magic in Tolkiens own words, "the dwarves of yore made mighty spells" is a line from the Misty Mountains song in the Hobbit
Gandalf's resurrection was majestic compared to Sauron's. I like how the two are sharply contrasted. Gandalf was still in the good graces of the Valar whereas the one Valar that will have anything to do with Sauron is imprisoned beyond the Doors of Night, so dude's gotta fend for himself.
I'm not loving the representation of Tom Bombadil. He could be a bit jollier, but the bit that stuck out to me is him telling the Stranger that Sauron and the Dark Wizard can't be allowed to join forces. That seems very out of character for Bombadil, whom Gandalf said wouldn't be a fitting guardian for the One Ring because he wouldn't appreciate the gravity of the need, because he takes no interest in the affairs of the world outside of his very localised relationship with the earth and nature. Kudos for bringing him to the screen at last though.
One of the weaker episodes of this season. Feel like episode one and two were a lot better then 3 and 4 EDIT: Hope Calvin is doing well! Sucks losing a family member
I liked it as much as the first 3 Overall so far , I thought the first season was decent but this has been better Now that the groundwork has been laid , the pacing of the show is better
@@taimurmuggo1634 agreed, nevertheless, I still think the show is terrible. But I do enjoy making fun of it, and I try and respect peoples opinions, whether they like it or not.
This episode really missed for me. Felt like they shoved as many LOTR references and characters as they could into an episode and it felt sloppy. The Galadriel fight scene had a couple cool shots but was incoherent and weirdly shot overall. I still have hope for this show, but this was the worst so far for me :/ Edit: I do really like and appreciate this show. I just feel the dialogue is disjointed sometimes, and plot directions feel odd/forced sometimes.
@@daurydavis3983 bro, I’m making a complaint while also saying I enjoy the show and hope it gets better for me. I literally qualified my complaint by saying “it missed for ME”. I’m not even a die-hard book fan, just sharing my thoughts.
@@daurydavis3983 just watched episode 5, and I really, really liked it. That last episode felt so sloppy, like I said, and I’m glad this one was much more in line with the other positive things I’ve seen from the show. It played to its strengths and was dope. I’m not a hater fr lol
@@kalen1702 i swear this thread feels like everyone is trying to censor any even slightly negative opinions about the show. It's really exhausting. There were moments in episode 5 that had me hopeful for the series for the first time but i agree these earlier episodes have been missing me. I hope the show finds its footing.
I cringe every time Eric says 'a Maiar'. Also, you don't have to go to Gandalf, Sauron himself 'died' in the Fall of Númenor and then came back and then 'died' in the Last Alliance and came back.
How can people like this show? It makes no sense at all. They have broken the lore so much I won't find it surprising if they make Tom Bombadil either fight or get engaged in some kind of plot to kill Sauron even though Tolkien was clear to say he is a mistery and he doesn't get engaged in any conflict or outside troubles at all. Note: Anyone can like it. I am just impressed to see that a few people do. It's kinda weird to me. I wouldn't be able to like a show that makes characters so dumb like super old and experienced elves that can't tell what is in front of them, a married Galadriel (whose husband is nowhere to be seen and has a kind of "will they, won't they?" With the enemy) that could judge people's intentions not being able to judge even obvious intentions and so on. Halbrand in a wig fooling elves? How much are people able to excuse? Characters that say "we won't leave anyone behind except everyone who can delay us a little no matter how hurt they are". A show with so little at stake that humans and elves escape burning ashes from a volcano to their faces with no injuries at all. And...But... People like all sorts of things. Maybe people don't care if a show makes sense if the images look beautiful. Oh well...
this show is awful. i'm happy for blind wave if they genuinely like it but it feels like such a forced reaction. I don't get much out of the show at all. It's got no soul.
I’m not going to pretend the show is perfect. It’s far from it, however, it’s not nearly as bad as you say. Many just convinced themselves to hate it from the beginning, and nothing can change someone’s mind who is determined to hate it.
@@McRino1 oh thanks haven’t been called a child for many many years 😂😂 and last time I looked JRR Tolkien created middle earth and all it’s inhabitants
@dottzie33 childish in behaviour if not looks. I'm aware of what Tolkien did and didn't do, the point I was making is his estate refused to sell the rights to the Silmarillion after the Peter Jackson films which the estate hated. So this story has to.adapt to the availability of the material. The books are still there to read. I'm happy to see middle earth on screen. You can say "I don't enjoy" something without calling it shit, that is after all just an opinion. I hated the mandalorian so I stopped watching it. I didn't go onto UA-cam telling anyone who liked it they couldn't, that would be childish
@@McRino1I will call it what I like it’s mine and many many others opinion. If they couldn’t do it properly and respect the lore and source material then they should have created something new. But wait what these ‘writers have proven over and over they can’t write. As someone who has had a lifelong love and respect of Tolkien this is a terrible terrible show
This show is a disgrace, it is an insult to Tolkien's stories and just very poorly written and acted. This is just like the Acolyte, another huge out of touch failure of epic proportions. If you are a real Tolkien fan, it is not difficult to see how this show takes the LORE and throws out the window. Disrespectful and shameful. I am glad to the how hard this show is already failing. I cannot fathom why you guys would waste your time watching this garbage.
Let's not be a gatekeeper my friend. You don't have the right to decide who is a fan and who isn't. I enjoy the movies and I also enjoy this. Still a fan. Also if you have this mindset then why are you watching a reaction to the show you say you hate?
@@katieee1203 You enjoy all the bad shows and defend them vigorously, you even defended the Acolyte! lol The truth is not gatekeeping, it’s simply a statement of facts. The Acolyte was a horrible disgrace of a failure, that’s a fact, not gatekeeping. The numbers prove this fact beyond any doubt. The Acolyte got cancelled and this will too, you think good shows get cancelled in season 1? No, its because they are bad and unfaithful to the author/ creator. You cannot be a fan of something and also enjoy that very same thing being mutilated. How can u be a real fan and enjoy the story and lore being completely twisted and corrupted with modern day politics and wokism? Even if we remove that BS from these shows, they are still bad, the writing and the acting is mediocre at best. The REAL fans don't watch this crap, only fake fans, and there are not enough fake fans out there for this to work or make money, that's why the Acolyte got cancelled, and that is why this heresy against tolkien's work will get cancelled too. ''Still a fan''... You are not even close. If you are unable to see the lore being broken, then you don't know the lore and you are not a fan. Real fans know the lore and when it is being broken... It is because we have a majority of REAL fans, that did not watch the Acolyte, that the show cancelled - not enough fake fans watching it to make the numbers work. And that is a good for Star Wars moving foward. The same will happen to this abomination of a show. I was right about the Acolyte, and i will be again here.
@@roly9072I just got one question after reading that wall of text? Is everything ok because no one who is a sane individual would be this mad over a TV show. I think it's clear you need to turn off the PC and go outside and experience this thing we call life, god damn 😂 Also makes me very happy that I was brought up the way I was. If I didn't like something I can still be respectful to those that do, there's some exceptions like you because your not being a respectful person to begin with. Have fun living in your own head 👍
@@katieee1203 Ahh, the usual deflecting response i see. Pulling the ''you are angry and need to go outside'' card is old... I respect that you like it, what i don't respect is the fact that you call yourself a fan and defend lore breaking. You can't be a fan of something and simultaneously like content that disrespects and breaks the very same thing you call yourself a ''fan'' of. You talk about being respectful, while being disrespectful yourself, that made me laugh 🤣 You disrespect real fans, by calling yourself a fan. (You don't know the lore, if you are blind to it being broken). You also disrespect the author and creator of the original works. (By liking the perversions of their work). The way i see it, you are the blind one, living in your little bubble.
Same! I was looking forward to seeing their reaction to Grand-Elf... they either didn't notice or whoever edited this forgot to put it in... I also wanted to see them react to the story of the "promised shire"
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Been impatiently waiting for this reaction and knew you'd enjoy it. A slightly more brooding Tom, Ent wives, and early Stoors, of which I believe Smeagol is an offshoot of..... if memory serves.
Eric's face during the whole Bombadil sequence was worth waiting for this one
I’m haven’t even seen it yet but it’s what I’ve been waiting to see
Condolences to Calvin
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@@__Sauron_they say at the start he wasn’t around because he had a death in the family.
@@JeM130177 oh… I was talking with my friends on discord so I must have missed that part…
@@__Sauron_ Weird
@@BigLittleSlothwhat's weird is you
Just a reminder.. in the Return of the King appendices, it says that Hobbits came from 3 different types of halflings: Harfoots, Stoors, and Fallohides. When they settled the Shire, the Stoors stayed by the Brandywine River and thus were known as the River Folk.
My favorite Bombadil theory, and the one I subscribe to is that he’s the soul of the earth itself.
Someone commented on another reaction video basically equating him to figures like Mother Nature or Santa Claus, which I think is a great way of characterizing him. A living manifestation of spirit and life.
Personally, I just think of him as Tolkien himself.
My head canon is that Bombadil is Eru, himself. The GOD of Tolkien's legendarium. Why else could he have worn the ONE ring in the FOTR and literally NOTHING happened. He is more powerful than the ONE RING. 🤯🤯🤯🤯👀👀👀👀
I don’t have a map in front of me but I wonder if the promise that Arondir made to the Ents was the start of what would become Fangorn Forest? The forest gains a sentience from the elves and becomes a place that no one dares to harm at one point. It would be really cool if it were.
This episode had everything. Tom Bombadil, Barrow Wights, Ent Wives. I loved it.
The Stoors were a pleasant surprise. Winterbloom was AMAZING especially when hearing about them later
Eric smilling at Tom is golden. You really should have listened to the outro piece. It's a beautiful cover of the merry fellow song with Bear McCreary orchestra.
Thanks guys! My favorite channel for insightful and respectful reactions and discussions. Love it!
Eric: *_“We’re gonna have a small discussion.”_*
Discussion: **lasts almost twenty minutes**
Love it. 😂
idk why but the Ent scene got me really emotional, crying in the club rn 😢
Another absolute banger of an episode. I love this show so much, especially this season.
Me to man I love This show and I don’t care who hates it !❤
So glad there are so many positive comments about ROP on this channel's reactions. Feels like the only place on the internet sometimes.
@@toma411 yea I need positive vibes about it because it helps me like it more ❤️cus I LOVE ROP
I think Tom Bombadil is Father Time and Goldberry is Mother Nature.
the thumbnail with eric’s face and beard is ELITE
been starving for this one! :D
I tuned in to see Aaron, "the Lord of the Rings guy"!
Great reaction Wave Crew!
Aaron: "They're blown into GOATS?" 😂😂😂
Eric: "It could be a kitty cat" 😅😅😅
Eric: "They're SUCKED!" 😂😂😂
Aaron: 'Oh jeez, SPOLERS!" 😅😅😅
I can't tell you guys how much I've been wanting to see you guys react to this episode ❤ wishing Calvin all the best, never easy losing a family member 💙
Season 2 of The Rings of Power is probably the best-looking television show I have ever seen. This series has really raised the bar for mixing practical sets with digital.
Also, belated condolences to Calvin.
this show is so damn good, and i love seeing the joy on eric's face throughout!
Prayers for Calvin and his family
Enjoyed seeing the Ents 🌳
This episode and the 5th one are my favorite episodes so far, so so good.
The reactions of both of you are everything and I've been waiting for this for days. Tom Bombadil's actor nailed it, and i loved seeing the elf-vengers lmao. Arondir is so badass too.
My condolences to Calvin.Tom Bombadil and Ents were great in this episode :)
7:32 In that moment, he KNEW
Tom Bombadil can literally hold and put on the one ring, UNFAZED! Like normal JEWLERY!
*unfazed
@@henrietta9206 Thanks
Tom did mention that "folks up at the Withywindle used to call me Bombadil" the Withywindle is a smaller river that flows into the Brandywine river near the Shire, so this Tom has already/does live where up North by where the Shire will be but for some reason has moved to Rhun
that scene with the ents if fuck*ng fantastic, if that's not Tolkien enough nothing else is
Old Tom Bombadil and the river-daughter🎶
So far the episode I enjoyed most in this season.
You guys didn't notice "Grand-Elf" ?
So fucking sick we got Tom on screen and I loved the acting too. The Ent and Arondir scene actually got me emotional, I love Tolkien’s love for trees and him writing it into the story.
The ent scene made me really emotional
The theory about Tom I most like is that he is a Maia (essentially a god), maybe the oldest of them, who once the world was created decided to live among his creations instead of in heaven
i know they hinted at the stranger being gandalf, but at this point i really have to think they want us to assume these are the two blues, both in rhûn and both portrayed as istar and it's a plotline that's a lot less defined that gives them room for their own interpretations
Hopefully Calvin will be okay.
i think the stranger being gandalf is a mislead i think the stranger and the dark wizard are both blue wizards, stranger bejng Alatar (darkness slayer) and the dark wizard being Pallando (East helper)
both stranger and dark wizard will be slain by eachother with the help of sauron and thats why theyre is no history of the blue wizards other than they travelled east and why even gandalf cant remember their names
The Stranger is Olorin, a maiar from the time of the first song, and who splits himself and all his knowledge\power among 4 other beings. What remains after the split is a shadow of this being, and becomes almost a separate entity known as Mithrandir, or Gandalf. When he returns as Gandalf the White, he has reclaimed the power and knowledge he imparted in the others. This is part of why he had trouble remembering what the mortals called him, because of how much more he had to process. Furthermore, I think the Dark Wizard is gonna be the reason Olorin decides to split himself and empower other Lesser Maiar to assist him with his task.
I don't like the idea of the stranger not being Gandalf...
Everyone loves Gandalf and it would suck if by the end the stranger is one of the Blue Wizards. I think he's Gandalf and will come back West after possible meeting the other Wizards.
@@Digital111 I don't know the exact specifics, but odds are incredibly high that it's Olorin aka Pre-Gandalf
37:30 Again with "The Silver Million". 😂
You know what would be interesting... what if the Stranger is Saruman?
After this episode that’s now my main theory.
Each wizard was given a mission of sorts. Gandalf’s was to be a friend and builder of communities, Radaghasts was to be a friend and nurture nature, and it was Saruman’s task specifically to lead the resistance to Sauron on Middle Earth.
I think Tom Bombadil just told us exactly who he is lol
He's not saruman.
Saruman had been allied with Gandalf for years.
I think both wizards, or at least the evil one, are blue wizards, the ones who went to the east and came to middle earth earlier than Gandalf and saruman
Why is everyone so against him being Gandalf. His friendship with the Harfoots is pretty much how he became so fond of Hobbits.
He really lived among them and got to know them well...
The show is throwing so many hints that it's Gandalf, I feel like it would be dumb if by the end he's just some random Blue wizard or even Saruman who never cared about the "lesser peoples"
@@Digital111 people are against it because of the previously written lore from Tolkien where gandalf doesn't show up until the third age. personally I want it to be gandalf. People are going to hate on the show either way, so just call him gandalf, and give us some cool wizard action. I'm along for the ride and want to be entertained.
LIES! I get Aaron isn't UpToDate with his LOTR knowledge. Nor am I, but I'd be happy to watch a video with Aaron. I enjoy you all, but Aaron reacting is great too!
I'm late to this party but I'm absolutely loving the buildup of this show, even if they play fast & loose with Tolkien's time frame just so we can care about both elf characters and human characters (I think Elendil & Isildur are born around 1200 years after all this stuff about the Rings of Power in Eregion... there's no way to have the Numenor timeline and the Eregion timeline happening at the same time except to overlap them - that's where people have a sticking point to grump about.
That said, it's all the little things that REALLY speak to me as a giant Tolkien nerd who almost followed him into Old English professoring/fantasy writing (sadly, the world has changed in the last 100 years). Case in point, Adar's closing line in this episode was not lost on me, even though it contains information they didn't capture in the subtitles.
"Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo" is a common enough phrase among Tolkien nerds: it means "A star shines upon the hour of our meeting," and it's a traditional Elvish greeting. It's one a lot of Tolkien diehards use to greet others in the fandom. It's not just in "Elvish," but it's in Quenya in particular, the older and "higher" form of Elvish spoken by the Ñoldor, and so it's perfectly appropriate for Adar to speak as a greeting to the high-born and already ancient lady Galadriel.
(There is, of course, something really heartbreaking about Adar using the phrase, as being twisted at the hands of Morgoth has largely deprived him of the ability to enjoy sunshine ever again, as we saw in Season 1).
It feels snobbish to say that the "casuals" in Tolkien fandom would know this Elvish greeting. It's the kind of thing Tolkien fans quote at each other the same way Browncoats tend to quote the same five or ten classic Firefly lines at one another. But I expect a lot of Tolkien fans will have caught that. What really, REALLY jumped out at me as something I imagined was beyond the ken of the showrunners and writing team was that Adar doesn't say "Galadriel," if you listen to him. Even though the subtitles caption him as saying "Galadriel," what he actually says is "Altáriel." This name is actually from the Telerin branch of Elvish, and means something like "maiden crowned with light." It's in keeping with Galadriel's magnificent golden hair, which she inherited by way of her grandmother Indis, and would have been a rare and magnificent site among the dark-haired Telerin. It's the very old, very intimate Epessë or cognomen that would have been given to her either by her future-husband Celeborn, or by her mother Eärwen, both of whom were Telerin.
Referring to Galadriel by the name bestowed on her just as she came of age is one hell of a flex on Adar's part. The name "Galadriel" is a loose Sindarin adaptation of this much older name, and the fact that Adar knows it is just a quiet reminder of how very, very, very old he is--probably older than her, if he knew the name she was given when she came of age.
It also raises the question of who Adar was: The name "Adar" is simply the Sindarin word for "Father," but can also carry with it the connotation of "Lord," as it does in Sauron's nickname, "Annatar" (Ann-adar), the "Lord of Gifts." It makes me feel his Orc children just call him Lord-Father as a way of covering all their bases when determining what his name means. It may be that he was one of the Unwilling, who never went to Valinor with the Elves, but remained on the shores of Cuiviénen where the elves were eventually picked up by Morgoth and corrupted. This would place him a few generations older than Galadriel, and possibly one of the Unbegotten--the very first Elves awakened.
This is deep stuff. I did not expect the show to take such great care with Tolkien's languages and names. It may not have the lasting near-perfection of Peter Jackson's trilogy, but I'll take this any day of the week over the fart jokes and gratuitously lifeless CGI of his Hobbit films.
Also, Eric's kid-in-a-candy-store reactions to the reveals of Bombadil and the Entwives just fill my heart with joy. I'll have to remember my promise of eight years ago to send on a copy of my own novels, which I promised to do one day once I got here.
Eight years is longer than the professional lifespan of most UA-camrs, reactors, and influencers. I'm so very glad to find you all still here, still successful at this thing.
Hope Calvin is doing all okay :)
Tolkien had two ideas about the blue wizards; one where they were doing good in the east, and one where they were setting up evil magic cults. It looks like the show might be using both, and pitting the two blue wizards against each other, with one doing good and one having 'fallen' like Saruman.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't The Barrow Downs where Merry and Pippin get their Elven daggers? Which is what the Elf that got dragged into one of the barrows was carrying
Merry and Pippin did get their daggers from the Barrow Downs, but they weren’t elven. They were forged by the men of the kingdom of Arnor for use in their war against the Witch King of Angmar, which is still thousands of years in the future.
My view is that the Dark Wizard isn't one of the 5 Istari Wizards. The timescale is I think wrong for that. In Lotr, in the Third Age, Gandalf is a member of his "order", which includes Saruman, Radagast and the other (unnamed) wizards. But that is hundreds (if not far more) years after the events in the second age that we see here. The exception to this might be if Gandalf manages to "redeem" the Dark Wizard (who perhaos turns out to be Saruman? - Now there's a thought!)
a great king of gondor gifted the shire to the hobbits as they helped gondor during a war
the shire was struck by a plague which killed off all the men who lived there so it was deemed unlivable and the king used it as his hunting grounds until he gifted all the open land to the hobbits and they eventually moved over from bree and it flourished
I'm pretty damn sure the dark wizard is saruman. Being so close to the stores, it would set up his distaste for hobbits.
love tom Q.Q so excited, thanks guys!~ going to the next!~
Great episode, and the ent scene is one of my favourite Tolkien adaption moment put on screen.
Theories buzzing around the Dark Wizard as being Khamul. Who eventually becomes one of the Nazgul. If it is him it's a little interesting that he's already a wizard at this point because he has no power until he obtains one of the rings. I'm kind of wondering if the stuff with the Harfoots might be on a different timeline because technically Gandalf isn't supposed to be around at this point in the story either.
it is mentioned that humans can learn magic, i know the Hobbit movies aren't 100% accurate but Saruman does mention that the "Necromancer" will be nothing more than a mortal conjurer dabbling in some black magic, and im certain there are some actual mentions of stuff in Tolkiens own works about similar things, even the Dwarves can do actual magic in Tolkiens own words, "the dwarves of yore made mighty spells" is a line from the Misty Mountains song in the Hobbit
I've been saying this since the first season... Rings of Power is the prequel to the movies, not the books!
Gandalf's resurrection was majestic compared to Sauron's. I like how the two are sharply contrasted. Gandalf was still in the good graces of the Valar whereas the one Valar that will have anything to do with Sauron is imprisoned beyond the Doors of Night, so dude's gotta fend for himself.
please react to the new jeff goldblum series KAOS its amazing and if you guys watch it more people will and i want the show to get a season 2
I remember the barrow Wrights are from the game the war of the north lord of the rings
Goldberry was in the vase by Stranger's bath?
Lowest dungeon, had to correct Eric there because he got every other word right.
Looking up for a reaction because why one of the elf that goes to eregion looks like pre-stabbed sauron?
I love that scene where naked sludge-Gandalf pounces on a baby eagle and absorbs it to come back as Gandalf the White 😂😂😂😂
Tom sounds like Forrest Gump, once I heard it I couldnt unhear it
Do you think they will show the guy that turned into a wolf, in the Hobbits, his linage, 😮
You mean Beorn? He the guy that turns into a bear?
That would be cool to see more of his kind.
I think beorn wasn’t born there yet. The show plays about 3000 years before the hobbit
No one has reacted to the grand elf bit. Am I missing something here?
I'm not loving the representation of Tom Bombadil. He could be a bit jollier, but the bit that stuck out to me is him telling the Stranger that Sauron and the Dark Wizard can't be allowed to join forces. That seems very out of character for Bombadil, whom Gandalf said wouldn't be a fitting guardian for the One Ring because he wouldn't appreciate the gravity of the need, because he takes no interest in the affairs of the world outside of his very localised relationship with the earth and nature. Kudos for bringing him to the screen at last though.
One of the weaker episodes of this season. Feel like episode one and two were a lot better then 3 and 4
EDIT: Hope Calvin is doing well! Sucks losing a family member
I liked it as much as the first 3
Overall so far , I thought the first season was decent but this has been better
Now that the groundwork has been laid , the pacing of the show is better
@@taimurmuggo1634 agreed, nevertheless, I still think the show is terrible. But I do enjoy making fun of it, and I try and respect peoples opinions, whether they like it or not.
This episode really missed for me. Felt like they shoved as many LOTR references and characters as they could into an episode and it felt sloppy. The Galadriel fight scene had a couple cool shots but was incoherent and weirdly shot overall. I still have hope for this show, but this was the worst so far for me :/
Edit: I do really like and appreciate this show. I just feel the dialogue is disjointed sometimes, and plot directions feel odd/forced sometimes.
My god you people complain too much
@@daurydavis3983 bro, I’m making a complaint while also saying I enjoy the show and hope it gets better for me. I literally qualified my complaint by saying “it missed for ME”. I’m not even a die-hard book fan, just sharing my thoughts.
@@daurydavis3983 just watched episode 5, and I really, really liked it. That last episode felt so sloppy, like I said, and I’m glad this one was much more in line with the other positive things I’ve seen from the show. It played to its strengths and was dope. I’m not a hater fr lol
@@kalen1702 i swear this thread feels like everyone is trying to censor any even slightly negative opinions about the show. It's really exhausting.
There were moments in episode 5 that had me hopeful for the series for the first time but i agree these earlier episodes have been missing me. I hope the show finds its footing.
Where reaction for new trailer Arcane????
Why would they watch a trailer to a show they are gonna watch/react to?
They usually only react to one trailer or teaser and then go straight to the show to avoid spoilers if they are really into it. You might get lucky.
As they said at the beginning of the video there's been a lot going on so they may react to it or they may just leave it.
I cringe every time Eric says 'a Maiar'. Also, you don't have to go to Gandalf, Sauron himself 'died' in the Fall of Númenor and then came back and then 'died' in the Last Alliance and came back.
And yes, it's Trotter.
How can people like this show? It makes no sense at all. They have broken the lore so much I won't find it surprising if they make Tom Bombadil either fight or get engaged in some kind of plot to kill Sauron even though Tolkien was clear to say he is a mistery and he doesn't get engaged in any conflict or outside troubles at all.
Note: Anyone can like it. I am just impressed to see that a few people do. It's kinda weird to me. I wouldn't be able to like a show that makes characters so dumb like super old and experienced elves that can't tell what is in front of them, a married Galadriel (whose husband is nowhere to be seen and has a kind of "will they, won't they?" With the enemy) that could judge people's intentions not being able to judge even obvious intentions and so on. Halbrand in a wig fooling elves? How much are people able to excuse? Characters that say "we won't leave anyone behind except everyone who can delay us a little no matter how hurt they are". A show with so little at stake that humans and elves escape burning ashes from a volcano to their faces with no injuries at all. And...But... People like all sorts of things. Maybe people don't care if a show makes sense if the images look beautiful. Oh well...
Yet you chose to come here just to complain like a baby
this show is awful. i'm happy for blind wave if they genuinely like it but it feels like such a forced reaction. I don't get much out of the show at all. It's got no soul.
@@tristan8922 yet you're still here whining
I’m not going to pretend the show is perfect. It’s far from it, however, it’s not nearly as bad as you say. Many just convinced themselves to hate it from the beginning, and nothing can change someone’s mind who is determined to hate it.
@@daurydavis3983 i like the channel and was giving the show another shot. Just voicing my opinion. Didn't realize we liked echo chambers here.
Condolences to kelvin and family and Aaron you really don’t need to know Tolkien to watch this 💩 because it isn’t Tolkien
Hahaha grow up. Sad child. Tolkien estate didn't sell right to silmarillion so it can't be.
@@McRino1 oh thanks haven’t been called a child for many many years 😂😂 and last time I looked JRR Tolkien created middle earth and all it’s inhabitants
@dottzie33 childish in behaviour if not looks. I'm aware of what Tolkien did and didn't do, the point I was making is his estate refused to sell the rights to the Silmarillion after the Peter Jackson films which the estate hated. So this story has to.adapt to the availability of the material. The books are still there to read. I'm happy to see middle earth on screen. You can say "I don't enjoy" something without calling it shit, that is after all just an opinion. I hated the mandalorian so I stopped watching it. I didn't go onto UA-cam telling anyone who liked it they couldn't, that would be childish
@@McRino1I will call it what I like it’s mine and many many others opinion. If they couldn’t do it properly and respect the lore and source material then they should have created something new. But wait what these ‘writers have proven over and over they can’t write. As someone who has had a lifelong love and respect of Tolkien this is a terrible terrible show
@@McRino1 lol this show is shit and you know it.
this show is officially a snore fest
And yet you still watch it? like any sane person would just stop watching the show if they didn’t like it 😂
@@HeyItsJon92 or any sane person would know you can't have a valid opinion on something unless you experience it yoursaelf. this show is awful.
This show is a disgrace, it is an insult to Tolkien's stories and just very poorly written and acted. This is just like the Acolyte, another huge out of touch failure of epic proportions. If you are a real Tolkien fan, it is not difficult to see how this show takes the LORE and throws out the window. Disrespectful and shameful. I am glad to the how hard this show is already failing. I cannot fathom why you guys would waste your time watching this garbage.
Let's not be a gatekeeper my friend. You don't have the right to decide who is a fan and who isn't. I enjoy the movies and I also enjoy this. Still a fan.
Also if you have this mindset then why are you watching a reaction to the show you say you hate?
@@katieee1203 You enjoy all the bad shows and defend them vigorously, you even defended the Acolyte! lol
The truth is not gatekeeping, it’s simply a statement of facts. The Acolyte was a horrible disgrace of a failure, that’s a fact, not gatekeeping. The numbers prove this fact beyond any doubt. The Acolyte got cancelled and this will too, you think good shows get cancelled in season 1? No, its because they are bad and unfaithful to the author/ creator.
You cannot be a fan of something and also enjoy that very same thing being mutilated. How can u be a real fan and enjoy the story and lore being completely twisted and corrupted with modern day politics and wokism? Even if we remove that BS from these shows, they are still bad, the writing and the acting is mediocre at best.
The REAL fans don't watch this crap, only fake fans, and there are not enough fake fans out there for this to work or make money, that's why the Acolyte got cancelled, and that is why this heresy against tolkien's work will get cancelled too.
''Still a fan''... You are not even close. If you are unable to see the lore being broken, then you don't know the lore and you are not a fan. Real fans know the lore and when it is being broken... It is because we have a majority of REAL fans, that did not watch the Acolyte, that the show cancelled - not enough fake fans watching it to make the numbers work. And that is a good for Star Wars moving foward. The same will happen to this abomination of a show. I was right about the Acolyte, and i will be again here.
@@roly9072I just got one question after reading that wall of text? Is everything ok because no one who is a sane individual would be this mad over a TV show. I think it's clear you need to turn off the PC and go outside and experience this thing we call life, god damn 😂
Also makes me very happy that I was brought up the way I was. If I didn't like something I can still be respectful to those that do, there's some exceptions like you because your not being a respectful person to begin with. Have fun living in your own head 👍
@@katieee1203 Ahh, the usual deflecting response i see. Pulling the ''you are angry and need to go outside'' card is old...
I respect that you like it, what i don't respect is the fact that you call yourself a fan and defend lore breaking. You can't be a fan of something and simultaneously like content that disrespects and breaks the very same thing you call yourself a ''fan'' of.
You talk about being respectful, while being disrespectful yourself, that made me laugh 🤣
You disrespect real fans, by calling yourself a fan. (You don't know the lore, if you are blind to it being broken). You also disrespect the author and creator of the original works. (By liking the perversions of their work). The way i see it, you are the blind one, living in your little bubble.
I just can't watch this show..
And thats totally ok 👍
And no one, not one single person on the planet, gives a shit
@@McRino1 i do. this show blows.
@@Adam-xg1ch no, you watch the show, doesn't mean you care and if you do holy moly grow up
@@McRino1 lol what? learn how to accept that some people actually have standards.
18:34 Welcome to Middle Earth!
There'll be Chinese Elves next, and Orcs in Wheelchairs lol
No one has reacted to the grand elf bit. Am I missing something here?
Same! I was looking forward to seeing their reaction to Grand-Elf... they either didn't notice or whoever edited this forgot to put it in...
I also wanted to see them react to the story of the "promised shire"
It's a pretty subtle line. I didn't catch it in my reaction either.