I think what some aren't getting here is Shaun talking about how Fanatec changed the game. First, most of us had plastic pedals. Fanatec introduced metal construction at a reasonable price, where most premium pedal manufacturers charged much, much more for their metal pedals. Now Fanatec brings inverted pedals at a reasonable price, certainly much cheaper than other inverted pedal sets. It's going to cost you as you move away from cheap stuff to equipment that should last a lifetime. Are you a casual user or are you ready to take your sim racing to the next level?
John G. Hill T500 pedals can be inverted and cost much less. Also what I don't like about Fanatec, is their tendency to make false statements. E.g. they said on their homepage that these are "hydraulic pedals". This is not true. Didn't happen for the first time though.
I'm writing this comment six years after this video was posted and I'm amazed by the ingenuity and engineering of Fanatec. They really elevated the level of realism of sim racing.
I just did a DIY inversion, swapped the gas and clutch then mounted the whole platform on a 1/2" piece of MDF and mounted it to my rig, would highly recommend.
Was lurking on those pedals since the launch. Normally would never have bought them but the Fanatec Blak Friday deal put at them -40% sale, lowering the price from 600€ to 360€ which is finally a reasonable price for me. They're arriving in two days and I can't wait to have them replace my V2 pedals which I was actually very happy with.
Sean, one tip... centimeters are shortened to 'cm' (lowercase) and not "cent". Cent is a 100th of a Euro or US Dollar after all. ;) Thanks for the review. :)
Just bought some standard V3s because I wasnt sure the Inverted would fit my GTOmega stand. Now I'm feeling regret at not going inverted and just buying a new stand if needs be
They're only $600 today, instead of the $500 back in 2017. Just ordered a set today. I have the regular V3s and love them, I wanted to try the inverted ones.
@@RawJa777 I love them!! There are top notch for the price. They are more realistic so there is more travel and you will have to lift your leg up higher when using the clutch but it’s not a problem.
I wish they sold an inversion kit for these pedals. I really love them and I doubt I'll need to buy new pedals anytime soon. I'm just wishing I would have coughed up the extra cash for the inverted set.
Nice review Shawn, my V3i pedals should arrive tomorrow. Keep up the good work, haters always have an underlying reason that has nothing to do with the person they are hating on.
Great review, hope some day i'll have this pedals in my setup... I think holes on brake pedal feel is normal if you play with socks and... man, this left foot braking is killing me xD it looks so weird
I think this is the next thing I buy for my rig... I don't see why people are saying they're over priced. Every review I see says they are well built and perform great. And compared to others out there, they're significantly cheaper. Haters just gotta hate.
It is expensive, but Fanatec made something use to be thousands of EU for hundreds. It cost much more than a low end padal, but the qulity can match those custmized extrem end products, which can cost you thousands of EU (you can even buy a real used car with that). Still a good job.
Nice review Shawn, compared to what is on the market now these pedals are a very good option I think and a darn good looking set of pedals. Considering just an aftermarket load cell will run anywhere from $100 to $180 and the brake adjustability on these pedals is fantastic and looks very user friendly out of the box.
Seriously HE Pro pedals are miles better than the V3's, inverted or otherwise. If you're in Europe buying these instead of HE Pro's makes little sense. Until recently I had the regular V3's, and they we're great. Bought HE Pro's and the difference is measurable in the brake and throttle modulation control. I had an entirely different and improved experience with the Pro's brake and throttle fine control. Of course had I not upgraded I'd have no idea, and beforehand I had doubts whether I would find them better. As a user of both, I can tell you they are very much superior to the Fanatec pedals. Not knocking the standard V3's, at that price I think they're excellent. But the inverted puts them in competition with far better pedals, it's simply fact.
Meanwhile, in the United States the v3 inverterd are $499 while the HE Pro are $760. The only competition for the v3 Inverted in the US are the v3 non-inverted (who else makes $600 or less pedals of this caliber in the US?). VERY interesting how the situation is so different on either side of the Atlantic!! Good info, thanks (-8
Good point about VAT, forgot about that. 720 euro with 20% VAT is 600 euro without VAT which is 634 dollars currently. Clubsports have a base plate that HE and Proto Simtech do not have. When you add the plate to the PT-1's then they are 530$! Anyway, thanks for the info (-8
Have the normal V3 for a couple months now. Only thing I wish they would add is an option to move the individual pedal assemblies. Moving the face plate also changes how much force needs to be applied since force is not being applied to the center anymore. Off center forces tends to increase wear as well... Had to cut those little spacers rings to move the brake pedal further out. Would have expected a proper solution for a "version 3" design. Other then that, pretty good stuff. EDIT: Forgot, one thing that pissed be off when taking them apart. Metric and stone age thread screws in the same product (with damper kit), WTF!?
this was the only thing which prevented me from getting Fanatec, I hate pedals in the F1 position, it doesn't feel natural when using a manual shifter and clutch.
They're a masterpiece of Sim racing enginuity and I'd consider them actually cheap for what they can do,but the rocker motors are only pc compatable. I only play Forza on Xbox. I can upgrade my current pedals to load cell and customize hydraulic braking if I wanted. That's too bad the rocker motors aren't compatable.
Just got these during their black Friday sale and I'm having a tough time adjusting to the load cell braking, I'm coming from the TH 2 pedal setup so I have to relearn and tweak with the brake seeing to my liking
I’m still running my T500rs with the original pedals. I haven’t really raced in my Obutto Ozone since GT6. I was too lazy to rearrange my Man Cave to play GT Sport. Now that GT7 is here for the next 5yrs or so, I am so out of “racing shape” LOL. I have the pedals mounted onto the pedal plate in the “GT” or inverted position. Inverting your pedals was all the rage 10yrs ago. But, now it seems like that cooled off and the majority of pedals are set in the “F1” orientation. I also used to have my brake pedal pretty stiff. Now that I’m 52, I don’t feel like having to really lay into it to get full braking. Same with the gas, I am finding myself pushing my leg to go full throttle rather than pivoting my ankle. I can’t recall if I’ve ever used the pedals in the down or F1 position. If I move the seat forward a click or two, then I’m too close to the pedals and I get soreness in my left ankle from resting my foot on the pedal. As for the brake pedal face, I’m using a custom made pedal face that spans the brake and clutch. I have zero internet in using a clutch. I tried it on my G25 and it was just nothing like driving a real clutch. So, I’m quite happy with sequential shifting. I can’t just simply flip the pedals around and press a couple of buttons. The pedals are oddly mounted to the Obutto pedal tray. I can’t find any inverted Vs regular pedal position videos to give me an idea of what to expect if I take my rig apart and flip them around. What are your thoughts on inverted Vs regular (or flat)? Thanks bud
Tbh, there really is no difference between inverted and flat orientation. It all comes down to your preference, what you like, and what feels good to you.
Very surprised you didn't comment on the difference in height of the clutch and brake! The clutch sits about 2cm higher than the brake, making they awkward to use smoothly, imho. This is obvious in the side view of the set on the Fanatec site. Only explanation seems to be they have never seen a car with a clutch???
Is it comfy for left foot braking? I.e. not too much offset, not too much body twist, enough spacing? Recommend for F1? It looks to me that they are a bit more spaced out than the non inverted V3. I'm looking for a set to offer a good left braking position, but also use as clutch drive from time to time. This also seems to have more travel than the non inverted V3 and slightly better quality. Should I order this? If so, should I still order the damper to mount it on the gas pedal? I read some people do that... or should I just mount the stiffer spring if I need more feel. Any educated opinion is welcome. Thank you
I don't find software that allows any adjustment at the Fanatec download page. I do find the drivers. Love my Fanatec pedals but they should have given us the new brake pressure inserts, free. It was their mistake to send them out early on with such a mushy feel. Now they feel great. I have the non inverted V3's. I was having to clean my Logitec potentiometers every 5 or 6 months. Not a problem with these. Thanks for the review. Let me know about any software the allows adjustment
2 Questions Shaun: - in the 2 areas of how they perform and price, how do these pedals compare to the Proto SimTech PT-1's and the HE Pro's pedals? - have any recommendations on who sells inverted pedal mounts (pictured in your video beginning)? Thanks for this review Shaun, great job and detail!
HE Pro's are significantly better. The HE Pro's uses higher quality load cells for the pedals which makes a massive difference to the sensitivity of the control you have, it just feels more connected. It's something that can only be demonstrated by trying them.
mingojingo Thanks for replying. So the only difference is the higher quality load cells on the HE Pro's? What is the price difference? Know the real differences between the Proto SimTech PT-1's and HE Pro's?
There of course other differences such design choices and adjustability which you can see in many video reviews. The HE Pro's are certainly more visually authentic and I'd wager the electronics are more robust too. I mentioned the 'sensitivity of the control' as that is something I know from owning the HE Pro's and previous owner of Fanatec V3's, so it's comparison between the sets. And it's something you won't know without testing them. Just because both use load cells doesn't make their performance equal. Sorry I've never used the PT-1's so I couldn't comment. The V3's not not trash in anyway, they are very good. There's just better out there. And my point really is if you're pedal budget is this high (V3 inverted), you have other options, and indeed they are better options.
My biggest question is this.... Why didn't they invert the accelerator pedal as well? Nice to see that you can still add a damper to the accelerator if you want to!
if only consider clutch feeling and accelerator, without brake pedal, which one feels better between normal and inverted? just please tell me your opinion only. Thank you
Any experience with the load cell breaking? Just lost my first one and had to buy a replacements as I was out of warranty Plus Fanatec will not sell me a spare due to limited inventory so have to wait 2-3 weeks shipping if it goes.
Actually what’s the practicality of considering the inverted version? Is it mostly for the heel-toe play? 🤔 cause if it’s more focused on that, might just wanna go for the standard V3’s
I'm ok with the pricing it's quality your paying for so I'm cool with it. I have questions about the pedals I'm newer to sim racing and wanted to know will these fanatec pedels work with the t300 rs racing wheel?
Flexing clearly comes from the rig to which the pedals are mounted to. I'm pretty sure that the pedalframe is so sturdy it wont flex even if you mounted it to the floor with screws.
They look great but you have alot of flex in the base plate , how would these compare to the heusinkveld sim pedals sprint as they are very close in price I use a modded set of t3pa pro with load cell upgrade
Hey Simpit! Shortcut for centimeters is cm, not cent. Cents are common for dollar denomination in USA. Which ones would you get if you would have to spend your own hard earned money - the GT ones or inverted? Doesnt really seem to be worth the extra buck to me... Its 350€ vs 600€.
Hello everyone I just made a hobby investment and purchased the CSR wheel with V3 pedals I had a thrustmaster TX which worked fine but in my humble opinion didn't have I will call it the oomph that the G920 I tried a few times. So I decided on the Fanatec CSR bundle which I have on a GT wheel stand. Easily slide back and forth. Wholes fit no drilling needed. When I use the Fanatec system check it says OK and the blue shows for each one wheel peddles. With the games the wheel turns and the cars rev but they won't drive. Asseto Corso says awaiting input Forza 7 IRacing Project 2 same. Dirt 4 free play it works but not racing. I have tried everything from UA-cam and the Web and emailed Fanatec several days ago spoke with Microsoft. I am looking for an answer of why it's not working so I can find a solution. If it's possible an answer would be great. Thank you.
I currently have the T3PA Pro pedals inverted and I'm looking to get the Fanatec Clubsport V3's. Do you think the inverted pedals are worth the extra $200 in your opinion? I personally doubt it, but I'd like to know your opinion.
Same problem, my CSL Elites only just fit my GTOmega, and the Fanaterc website says the V3 Inverted are 7 inches longer, and now I bought standard V3s I am seeing reviews saying they are the same length. :(
Come on Shaun! Adding a damper kit plus performance kit (excluding the shipping cost) is $600US or just over $1000AU. With all respect, you have been a bit too excited about these pedals. The price tag is NOT justified,. Save a couple of hundreds of dollars and you can buy yourself high-end pedals like HE or other. The Fanatec is a good brand but this time they have gone too far. The cost is ridiculous! I must admit it looks fantastic for sure. I'd suggest to use these pedals side by side with high-end pedals and then review it again if possible.
I want these pedals. But I have one question about the way you had it set up. To me it looked like you were barely able to reach them. I personally don’t like to have to extend my leg and foot to the extreme in order to do repetitive things like using the clutch.
So, do these have more clutch travel than the floor mounted model? Edit: Sorry! You answered my question at 12:57. I should have watched the full review.
Yeah, in the EU normal V3s are 360€, plus 80€ for the damper kit, so it's basically 160€ for the bracket. Compared to the USA, where it's 300$ for the pedals and 70$ for the damper, so 130$ for the bracket. Prices in the states are sort of reasonable, EU not so much. It's just Fanatec being Fanatec. ... which is the reason I bought the Protosimtech PT-1 pedals for 440$, though it totaled to 650€ after shipping and taxes to EU. And I still consider that a bargain compared to the V3's... you just get way more bang for your buck, there's even a review of them on The Simpit. :)
So it is totally ok that the price difference between the Euro and USD amount of your PT-1 pedals is 48% while the difference on the Fanatec side is just 23%. Sounds logic. And by the way, the US prices never include any tax and therefore the price difference.
"And by the way, the US prices never include any tax and therefore the price difference." ok 499.95$ = 472.26€ 472.26€ * 1.19 (19% vat) = 562€ ClubSport Pedals V3 inverted cost 599.99€ so this difference is cause the fanatec device is build in USA ... ho wait ... made in deutschland ... ... mmm ... i don't know why i feel 37€ in my ... and for a load cell ... shipping cost 12$ for USA and 17€ for france ... no problem
"So it is totally ok that the price difference between the Euro and USD amount of your PT-1 pedals is 48% while the difference on the Fanatec side is just 23%. Sounds logic." Now you're just being intentionally obtuse. The price of the pedals did not change depending on the currency (unlike with your pedals), the additional cost was shipping and import taxes like I mentioned. You know, just like your pedals aren't actually 360 euros to get into my hands since we need to add shipping costs to that. If the 60 euro price difference with your pedals was due to my government or EU being PITA and included shipping, I obviously wouldn't be bashing you for it. Because, you know, logic. -_- Also, I consider the PT-1's worth 650 euros, considering IMO the only comparable pedal set is Heusinkveld Pro pedals, which are 720 euros plus shipping, the list price for pt-1's is an absolute steal. Though mentioning them in the same context as the V3's was probably a mistake, they're completely different levels of product and v3's are not even close to comparable. "And by the way, the US prices never include any tax and therefore the price difference." Okay, now that would make sense and is fair enough, not that the math actually checks out, but we'll gloss over that. Yet somehow when I questioned you about the price difference back when the V3 pedals launched, you forgot to mention that sensible reason, and instead claimed the price difference being because of manufacturing costs being different due to the strength of euro compared to dollar. Which didn't really make sense to me, since if I'm not mistaken you manufacture your stuff in Asia, but I'm not privy to your contracts so what do I know.
andrescastaned80 No. Fanatec has already stated that, despite them looking similar, there are actually many differences in the manufacturing of the normal Clubsport pedals, and the manufacturing of the new Clubsport Inverted pedals, that make creating an upgrade kit impractical, so there will NOT be an upgrade kit.
Man, the writing on this is awesome; legitimately NPR-quality descriptions; concise, illustrative, and well-spoken!
I've been using the Clubsport pedals for 6 years, replaced the load cell once. Great set that I would never switch out.
Glad to see I’m not the only one that races in their socks.
Just ordered my V3’s yesterday. Looking forward to trying them out very much
I think what some aren't getting here is Shaun talking about how Fanatec changed the game. First, most of us had plastic pedals. Fanatec introduced metal construction at a reasonable price, where most premium pedal manufacturers charged much, much more for their metal pedals. Now Fanatec brings inverted pedals at a reasonable price, certainly much cheaper than other inverted pedal sets. It's going to cost you as you move away from cheap stuff to equipment that should last a lifetime. Are you a casual user or are you ready to take your sim racing to the next level?
What this guy said ;)
John G. Hill T500 pedals can be inverted and cost much less. Also what I don't like about Fanatec, is their tendency to make false statements. E.g. they said on their homepage that these are "hydraulic pedals". This is not true. Didn't happen for the first time though.
CSR Elites are the best IMO. Load cell and you can buy inversion kit or mount them inverted in your rig. Love my Elites!!!
The T500 are not load cell pedals. Big difference in feel. Once your brain get's use to load cells, it's hard to go back.
John G. Hill might be true for you. However I sold my CSPv1 and kept the T500 pedals instead. I use the Basherboards brake mod though.
I'm writing this comment six years after this video was posted and I'm amazed by the ingenuity and engineering of Fanatec. They really elevated the level of realism of sim racing.
Just bought a new setup with these pedals. Can’t wait for them to arrive
You got me sold on these. Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for to upgrade from G29 pedal set.
Great job, Shaun! these pedals are what I've been waiting for, finally!
I just did a DIY inversion, swapped the gas and clutch then mounted the whole platform on a 1/2" piece of MDF and mounted it to my rig, would highly recommend.
Complicated? Any tricky bits or advice/things to watch out for?
Excellent show once again! I'm happy that Fanatec is always innovating and releasing new gear.
Almost ready for my first race with these awesome pedals! Overpriced for some, but not all!
I recently bought some V3s but I really like these. I would buy some today If only my GT Omega Pro would allow for it.
Was lurking on those pedals since the launch. Normally would never have bought them but the Fanatec Blak Friday deal put at them -40% sale, lowering the price from 600€ to 360€ which is finally a reasonable price for me. They're arriving in two days and I can't wait to have them replace my V2 pedals which I was actually very happy with.
Sean, one tip... centimeters are shortened to 'cm' (lowercase) and not "cent". Cent is a 100th of a Euro or US Dollar after all. ;)
Thanks for the review. :)
fantastic review once again. wish these things were more freely available in South Africa. exchange rate plus shipping costs make it a big no no.
Just bought some standard V3s because I wasnt sure the Inverted would fit my GTOmega stand.
Now I'm feeling regret at not going inverted and just buying a new stand if needs be
Thank you especially for the measurements of the pedals. This is really helpful 👌🏼
Good review Shaun!
They're only $600 today, instead of the $500 back in 2017. Just ordered a set today. I have the regular V3s and love them, I wanted to try the inverted ones.
What do you think? Trying to decide between the two...
@@RawJa777 I love them!! There are top notch for the price. They are more realistic so there is more travel and you will have to lift your leg up higher when using the clutch but it’s not a problem.
@@RawJa777 if money is a problem the regular V3 ‘s are still my second choice. They are great too.
@@BakerRacing Do you need the Brake Performance Kit? I've heard with the standard V3 it's almost a must.
@@RawJa777 I don’t have it on my regular V3‘s but I do have it on my inverted V3’s and I like it so I would say it would be better to have it.
Great, thorough review. Really appreciated the way you showed the dimensions.
I wish they sold an inversion kit for these pedals. I really love them and I doubt I'll need to buy new pedals anytime soon. I'm just wishing I would have coughed up the extra cash for the inverted set.
Why is that?
@@sinister0083 Most cars have inverted pedals. My WRX Sti has 3 inverted pedals. Tbh, I wish it had all 3 inverted
I’m saving up for the v3 nearly there now I’m thinking I will wit a little longer for the inverted and save a bit more what do you think?
Nice review Shawn, my V3i pedals should arrive tomorrow. Keep up the good work, haters always have an underlying reason that has nothing to do with the person they are hating on.
Awesome job Shaun! Super complete review.
Looks cool, but ouch, the price point.....
other ones are 1,000 for all metal like these..
@@ryen49 yeah, but we're talking about a 250 dollar hike in price for an inverted price set. Still a big pill to swallow.
@@volo1826 ya $250 more is retarded for 2 inverted pedals.
@@SIMRIG412 you get the damper kit too
I wish they were still $500
Nice review Shaun very informative
Great review and I agree this is priced right for the features. You pay for what you get and Fanatec is looking out for the sim racer.
ARG! Just when I got my v3 pedals few months ago!
me too 2 weeks a go fuck
same
same, but I would still make the choice I made based on price point
Great review, hope some day i'll have this pedals in my setup... I think holes on brake pedal feel is normal if you play with socks and... man, this left foot braking is killing me xD it looks so weird
Sim racing shoes from "Fast Track Sims" are a must and are very reasonably priced. Don't race in socks anymore, lol.
holy shit i finally found you again. i was wondering what happened to you when you disappeared from that other channel.
very very good review , cannot be more complete !
BlackFriday offer for Fanatec... same price as the Normal v3, NICE DEAL!
I think this is the next thing I buy for my rig... I don't see why people are saying they're over priced. Every review I see says they are well built and perform great. And compared to others out there, they're significantly cheaper. Haters just gotta hate.
great detailed review Shaun, thanks
Pretty in depth review, much appreciated!
It is expensive, but Fanatec made something use to be thousands of EU for hundreds. It cost much more than a low end padal, but the qulity can match those custmized extrem end products, which can cost you thousands of EU (you can even buy a real used car with that). Still a good job.
Time for the next gen pedals please.!!
Nice review Shawn, compared to what is on the market now these pedals are a very good option I think and a darn good looking set of pedals. Considering just an aftermarket load cell will run anywhere from $100 to $180 and the brake adjustability on these pedals is fantastic and looks very user friendly out of the box.
Seriously HE Pro pedals are miles better than the V3's, inverted or otherwise. If you're in Europe buying these instead of HE Pro's makes little sense. Until recently I had the regular V3's, and they we're great. Bought HE Pro's and the difference is measurable in the brake and throttle modulation control. I had an entirely different and improved experience with the Pro's brake and throttle fine control. Of course had I not upgraded I'd have no idea, and beforehand I had doubts whether I would find them better. As a user of both, I can tell you they are very much superior to the Fanatec pedals.
Not knocking the standard V3's, at that price I think they're excellent. But the inverted puts them in competition with far better pedals, it's simply fact.
Meanwhile, in the United States the v3 inverterd are $499 while the HE Pro are $760. The only competition for the v3 Inverted in the US are the v3 non-inverted (who else makes $600 or less pedals of this caliber in the US?).
VERY interesting how the situation is so different on either side of the Atlantic!! Good info, thanks (-8
The prices shown on the HE site have the 20% VAT in the price. Here in the US we don't pay that, HE Pro's can be had for about $590.
Good point about VAT, forgot about that. 720 euro with 20% VAT is 600 euro without VAT which is 634 dollars currently. Clubsports have a base plate that HE and Proto Simtech do not have. When you add the plate to the PT-1's then they are 530$!
Anyway, thanks for the info (-8
Great Review. Thanks for your time.
You nailed it once again! Great job!!!!!!
Thanks for the video
Have the normal V3 for a couple months now. Only thing I wish they would add is an option to move the individual pedal assemblies.
Moving the face plate also changes how much force needs to be applied since force is not being applied to the center anymore. Off center forces tends to increase wear as well...
Had to cut those little spacers rings to move the brake pedal further out. Would have expected a proper solution for a "version 3" design. Other then that, pretty good stuff.
EDIT: Forgot, one thing that pissed be off when taking them apart. Metric and stone age thread screws in the same product (with damper kit), WTF!?
this was the only thing which prevented me from getting Fanatec, I hate pedals in the F1 position, it doesn't feel natural when using a manual shifter and clutch.
Would be Nice if Fanatec made a kit for those of us that already own a set of standard V3s
Awesome show and great review! Liked and Subscribed! Hope to see you on a track someday Cheers!
Thanks! Hope to see you too!
the walls at fanatec's hq have some weird angles, the walls at my house make a 90 degree angle with the floor not 45
They're a masterpiece of Sim racing enginuity and I'd consider them actually cheap for what they can do,but the rocker motors are only pc compatable. I only play Forza on Xbox. I can upgrade my current pedals to load cell and customize hydraulic braking if I wanted. That's too bad the rocker motors aren't compatable.
Good review Shaun ...I may just buy these and sell my v3 standard
tamski11 Complete waste of money..
Just got these during their black Friday sale and I'm having a tough time adjusting to the load cell braking, I'm coming from the TH 2 pedal setup so I have to relearn and tweak with the brake seeing to my liking
I’m still running my T500rs with the original pedals. I haven’t really raced in my Obutto Ozone since GT6. I was too lazy to rearrange my Man Cave to play GT Sport. Now that GT7 is here for the next 5yrs or so, I am so out of “racing shape” LOL. I have the pedals mounted onto the pedal plate in the “GT” or inverted position. Inverting your pedals was all the rage 10yrs ago. But, now it seems like that cooled off and the majority of pedals are set in the “F1” orientation. I also used to have my brake pedal pretty stiff. Now that I’m 52, I don’t feel like having to really lay into it to get full braking. Same with the gas, I am finding myself pushing my leg to go full throttle rather than pivoting my ankle. I can’t recall if I’ve ever used the pedals in the down or F1 position. If I move the seat forward a click or two, then I’m too close to the pedals and I get soreness in my left ankle from resting my foot on the pedal. As for the brake pedal face, I’m using a custom made pedal face that spans the brake and clutch. I have zero internet in using a clutch. I tried it on my G25 and it was just nothing like driving a real clutch. So, I’m quite happy with sequential shifting.
I can’t just simply flip the pedals around and press a couple of buttons. The pedals are oddly mounted to the Obutto pedal tray. I can’t find any inverted Vs regular pedal position videos to give me an idea of what to expect if I take my rig apart and flip them around.
What are your thoughts on inverted Vs regular (or flat)?
Thanks bud
Tbh, there really is no difference between inverted and flat orientation. It all comes down to your preference, what you like, and what feels good to you.
No denying they're very desirable, but way, way too expensive for me. £350 inc shipping would be the sweet spot.
Fantastic Review. Thanks!
Very surprised you didn't comment on the difference in height of the clutch and brake! The clutch sits about 2cm higher than the brake, making they awkward to use smoothly, imho. This is obvious in the side view of the set on the Fanatec site. Only explanation seems to be they have never seen a car with a clutch???
Thank you sir! You are a great person!
Love my Fanatec but I’ve never had a good experience with there shifter have purchased two shifters the longest they have lasted was eight days
Fanatec should offer a kit to invert the standard V3 pedals.
Neonnite I could have swooorrreee they used to!! But I don't see it anymore. Maybe I'm just crazy. Lol.
Is it comfy for left foot braking? I.e. not too much offset, not too much body twist, enough spacing? Recommend for F1? It looks to me that they are a bit more spaced out than the non inverted V3. I'm looking for a set to offer a good left braking position, but also use as clutch drive from time to time. This also seems to have more travel than the non inverted V3 and slightly better quality. Should I order this? If so, should I still order the damper to mount it on the gas pedal? I read some people do that... or should I just mount the stiffer spring if I need more feel. Any educated opinion is welcome. Thank you
I don't find software that allows any adjustment at the Fanatec download page. I do find the drivers. Love my Fanatec pedals but they should have given us the new brake pressure inserts, free. It was their mistake to send them out early on with such a mushy feel. Now they feel great. I have the non inverted V3's. I was having to clean my Logitec potentiometers every 5 or 6 months. Not a problem with these. Thanks for the review. Let me know about any software the allows adjustment
Awesome! I would love to see more on the gas/brake pedal shaker motors...can we use simtools to run them?
2 Questions Shaun:
- in the 2 areas of how they perform and price, how do these pedals compare to the Proto SimTech PT-1's and the HE Pro's pedals?
- have any recommendations on who sells inverted pedal mounts (pictured in your video beginning)?
Thanks for this review Shaun, great job and detail!
HE Pro's are significantly better. The HE Pro's uses higher quality load cells for the pedals which makes a massive difference to the sensitivity of the control you have, it just feels more connected. It's something that can only be demonstrated by trying them.
mingojingo Thanks for replying. So the only difference is the higher quality load cells on the HE Pro's? What is the price difference? Know the real differences between the Proto SimTech PT-1's and HE Pro's?
There of course other differences such design choices and adjustability which you can see in many video reviews. The HE Pro's are certainly more visually authentic and I'd wager the electronics are more robust too. I mentioned the 'sensitivity of the control' as that is something I know from owning the HE Pro's and previous owner of Fanatec V3's, so it's comparison between the sets. And it's something you won't know without testing them. Just because both use load cells doesn't make their performance equal.
Sorry I've never used the PT-1's so I couldn't comment. The V3's not not trash in anyway, they are very good. There's just better out there. And my point really is if you're pedal budget is this high (V3 inverted), you have other options, and indeed they are better options.
My biggest question is this.... Why didn't they invert the accelerator pedal as well?
Nice to see that you can still add a damper to the accelerator if you want to!
because in the porsche RS 4.0 this is how the pedals are.
Inconceivable!
if only consider clutch feeling and accelerator, without brake pedal, which one feels better between normal and inverted? just please tell me your opinion only. Thank you
No the wiring port explained in detail ?
They would be great for Air Brakes .
There now $599 vs $499 which equals buy the protosimtech pt2 for $479 and mount the inverted.
Any experience with the load cell breaking? Just lost my first one and had to buy a replacements as I was out of warranty Plus Fanatec will not sell me a spare due to limited inventory so have to wait 2-3 weeks shipping if it goes.
Actually what’s the practicality of considering the inverted version? Is it mostly for the heel-toe play? 🤔 cause if it’s more focused on that, might just wanna go for the standard V3’s
I'm ok with the pricing it's quality your paying for so I'm cool with it. I have questions about the pedals I'm newer to sim racing and wanted to know will these fanatec pedels work with the t300 rs racing wheel?
Frame doesn't flex!!
Also on video: Frame flexing a bit under braking
Flexing clearly comes from the rig to which the pedals are mounted to. I'm pretty sure that the pedalframe is so sturdy it wont flex even if you mounted it to the floor with screws.
So you can obviously mount these flat or even on the floor, but would it be bettere on an angled platform like on most rigs?
Still worth it in 2023?
They look great but you have alot of flex in the base plate , how would these compare to the heusinkveld sim pedals sprint as they are very close in price I use a modded set of t3pa pro with load cell upgrade
Are you using a robot servo drive for your direct drive? 😅…. I was tempted to use an older abb servo
Do you know, by any chance what’s the brake pedal KG pressure range ? Maximum value is 90 kg but what’s the minimum ? Thank you ! 🙂
Hey Simpit! Shortcut for centimeters is cm, not cent. Cents are common for dollar denomination in USA.
Which ones would you get if you would have to spend your own hard earned money - the GT ones or inverted? Doesnt really seem to be worth the extra buck to me... Its 350€ vs 600€.
Where do you see plastic in the Thrustmaster pedals you shown at 0:59?
Hello everyone I just made a hobby investment and purchased the CSR wheel with V3 pedals I had a thrustmaster TX which worked fine but in my humble opinion didn't have I will call it the oomph that the G920 I tried a few times. So I decided on the Fanatec CSR bundle which I have on a GT wheel stand. Easily slide back and forth. Wholes fit no drilling needed. When I use the Fanatec system check it says OK and the blue shows for each one wheel peddles. With the games the wheel turns and the cars rev but they won't drive. Asseto Corso says awaiting input Forza 7 IRacing Project 2 same. Dirt 4 free play it works but not racing. I have tried everything from UA-cam and the Web and emailed Fanatec several days ago spoke with Microsoft. I am looking for an answer of why it's not working so I can find a solution. If it's possible an answer would be great. Thank you.
"Hobby investment"
I'm adding that to my vocabulary and my wife is going to be hearing that phrase a couple of times a year from now on, cheers ;)
Is there no instruction video on how to invert normal V3 pedals instead of paying € 240,00 more for inverted V3 pedals ?
I currently have the T3PA Pro pedals inverted and I'm looking to get the Fanatec Clubsport V3's. Do you think the inverted pedals are worth the extra $200 in your opinion? I personally doubt it, but I'd like to know your opinion.
I was considering the inverted but was afraid they wouldn't fit in my setup. Saw this said they are 12.5 inces. I have 13 inches of clearance lol.
Same problem, my CSL Elites only just fit my GTOmega, and the Fanaterc website says the V3 Inverted are 7 inches longer, and now I bought standard V3s I am seeing reviews saying they are the same length. :(
How do these compare against the Heusinkveld Pro pedals?
Any owners here?
You really skipped over the hard part of set up. Do you have to plug into a computer to download software?
Come on Shaun! Adding a damper kit plus performance kit (excluding the shipping cost) is $600US or just over $1000AU. With all respect, you have been a bit too excited about these pedals. The price tag is NOT justified,. Save a couple of hundreds of dollars and you can buy yourself high-end pedals like HE or other. The Fanatec is a good brand but this time they have gone too far. The cost is ridiculous! I must admit it looks fantastic for sure. I'd suggest to use these pedals side by side with high-end pedals and then review it again if possible.
Can you use the pedals with other branded steering wheels or only fanatec wheels
On PC, these pedals can be used with other wheels so long as you can spare another USB port for the pedals.
I want these pedals. But I have one question about the way you had it set up. To me it looked like you were barely able to reach them. I personally don’t like to have to extend my leg and foot to the extreme in order to do repetitive things like using the clutch.
If you’re buying these for console you need your priorities rearranged
Kids please this is not for you guys. This is not a toy. Its for "old" people! Who are willing to pay the price. Stop complaining and get a job!
So... do the vibrating motors work using a CSL Elite Racing on the PS4?
can the brake and clutch be swapped?
So, do these have more clutch travel than the floor mounted model?
Edit: Sorry! You answered my question at 12:57. I should have watched the full review.
Is it correct, the more stiffer you adjust the brake, the more shorter the brake pedal travel range is?
These cost 600 bucks in the EU.
Way overpriced. Normal V3 are "only" 360.
Yeah, in the EU normal V3s are 360€, plus 80€ for the damper kit, so it's basically 160€ for the bracket. Compared to the USA, where it's 300$ for the pedals and 70$ for the damper, so 130$ for the bracket. Prices in the states are sort of reasonable, EU not so much.
It's just Fanatec being Fanatec.
... which is the reason I bought the Protosimtech PT-1 pedals for 440$, though it totaled to 650€ after shipping and taxes to EU. And I still consider that a bargain compared to the V3's... you just get way more bang for your buck, there's even a review of them on The Simpit. :)
So it is totally ok that the price difference between the Euro and USD amount of your PT-1 pedals is 48% while the difference on the Fanatec side is just 23%.
Sounds logic.
And by the way, the US prices never include any tax and therefore the price difference.
"And by the way, the US prices never include any tax and therefore the price difference."
ok
499.95$ = 472.26€
472.26€ * 1.19 (19% vat) = 562€
ClubSport Pedals V3 inverted cost 599.99€
so this difference is cause the fanatec device is build in USA ... ho wait ... made in deutschland ... ... mmm ...
i don't know why i feel 37€ in my ...
and for a load cell ... shipping cost 12$ for USA and 17€ for france ... no problem
600 e are you serious ?, bad joke, pt1, he pro> toys made in china
"So it is totally ok that the price difference between the Euro and USD amount of your PT-1 pedals is 48% while the difference on the Fanatec side is just 23%.
Sounds logic."
Now you're just being intentionally obtuse. The price of the pedals did not change depending on the currency (unlike with your pedals), the additional cost was shipping and import taxes like I mentioned. You know, just like your pedals aren't actually 360 euros to get into my hands since we need to add shipping costs to that.
If the 60 euro price difference with your pedals was due to my government or EU being PITA and included shipping, I obviously wouldn't be bashing you for it.
Because, you know, logic. -_-
Also, I consider the PT-1's worth 650 euros, considering IMO the only comparable pedal set is Heusinkveld Pro pedals, which are 720 euros plus shipping, the list price for pt-1's is an absolute steal.
Though mentioning them in the same context as the V3's was probably a mistake, they're completely different levels of product and v3's are not even close to comparable.
"And by the way, the US prices never include any tax and therefore the price difference."
Okay, now that would make sense and is fair enough, not that the math actually checks out, but we'll gloss over that.
Yet somehow when I questioned you about the price difference back when the V3 pedals launched, you forgot to mention that sensible reason, and instead claimed the price difference being because of manufacturing costs being different due to the strength of euro compared to dollar. Which didn't really make sense to me, since if I'm not mistaken you manufacture your stuff in Asia, but I'm not privy to your contracts so what do I know.
Hi Shaun great review. Do you know if Fanatec will release an upgrade kit for the standard V3 model?
Thanks
andrescastaned80 No. Fanatec has already stated that, despite them looking similar, there are actually many differences in the manufacturing of the normal Clubsport pedals, and the manufacturing of the new Clubsport Inverted pedals, that make creating an upgrade kit impractical, so there will NOT be an upgrade kit.
what do you mean 3rd party software? will fanalab not run the shaker motors?
do you think this would be too heavy for the Yaw 2 motion rig?
So would I be correct in saying that the V3 Inverted is the same as the V3 Standard however you get a free damper kit and it is inverted
playing fast and loose with the word 'free' there mate
Keep it up !
So the only difference between these and the other v3s are the inverted, and the dampening kit?