Is no one bothered by Shifter Zerus turning into Nerubian Prophet and then not getting the discount nor keeping it through transformations just like effects of cards like Bolvar? Because I certainly am!
OJANproject www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/162032-shifter-zerus-retaining-nerubian-prophet-discount There you go random citizen.More Nerubian Prophet knowledge for you.
It shouldn't in this case. Shifter Zerus "entered the hand" first, so his effect goes first. First Zerus transforms, then Nerubian would go off. Bolvar's effect can happen mid-turn, so there you go.
+Ryan Bunnell I don't really get what you are trying to say as from your logic and past evidence it should still go off,maybe I'm just too tired. Do you mean it does not work because it is his first transformation? Because the effect of Nerubian Prophet worked very obviously before and was intended.Think it was even in one of Toasts stuff.So I can't really see it not working now.Especially since this card exists Nerubian and Bolvar were the main selling points of the Zerus effect in terms of potential unexpected value and another reason why I love Nerubian Prophet due to its positive influence on Zerus.
Card effects go off in order of entering the field they are in (ie hand or board). Zerus's effect goes off at the beginning of your turn. When would Nerubian get a chance to go off?
I thought that when I faced one against my rogue. What happens is that he deck just turns into a Tempo mage, except with more ways of getting cards at a cheaper mana cost. And note that rogue spells given to rogue are already cheap and deadly. So yeah.. it still works. No , I didn't win against them.
1:03 Rogue has no heals? Pfft, remember when Rogue healed 3 times by 3 antique healbot. Ahh, i remembered shoving the phone at my step dad's ass after that :).
Thank you, Kripp. This is the first time since the beginning of Hearthstone that I enjoy playing Rogue. I have 3 golden classes but before this deck I had fewer than 10 ranked wins with rogue. But this deck may carry me into the triple digits.
I honestly think this card is good enough and does enough that Thief Rogue might become a thing. I don't think it's Tier 1, but it's still a surprisingly effective deck.
I've been playing it at around rank 4 this season today and it's actually pretty good, record is 7-4 with it. Although kripps version of this deck is dogshit as per usual. Playing rogue without prep is so unbelievably stupid I can't even comprehend it. His examples of a control version being good were in adventure and at extremely low ranks where you can literally have success with anything. But hey this 'theif rogue' is fun so who actually cares
So what's your deck list? How do you fit the Preps? I'm playing a budget version of this as well, at low ranks, buts its soooo muuuch fun! Except when you get 3 consecutive Demon Fuses vs an aggro lock..
What does 'other classes' mean? Classes that isn't Rogue or a class ur hero is not? What if I draft this card from an unstable portal as a mage? Do my entire hand get discounted?
Only cards in your hand that belong to another class. So fighting a rogue actually half counters this deck also, since you'd be "stealing" rogue cards.
since you produce so many cards wouldn't elise be great as a late game sure fire win by drowning your opponents on value? Also how would peddler discount interact with monkey transforming them? Would there potentially be a 4 mana rag or a 2 mana sylvanas potentially?
7:53 In what world does that play make sense!? Rank 18 Isn't an excuse! Giving something for the opponent's Sylvanas to steal and equality all your minions when you could of avoided all of that by simply doing it in the proper order! There's misplays and then there is just being terrible!
when I saw this card come up in kripp's last video about this deck, i thought it was an aura effect at first (wasn't quite paying attention) do you guys think this card would be better or worse as an aura rather than a battlecry?
Have you thought about doing the talks AFTER the games or maybe after one-two games in the middle ? things you say would make much more sense if footage of games would be shown prior
Any deck consisting of entirely random cards can be called Casino something. Which is interesting because the Casino isn't that random. The Casino always wins. By the time you randomly win something the Casino already won. If there were decks in Hearthstone that were that consistent at appearing random but always winning like a Casino we'd. I'd guess we'd still be pissed off about it but what else is new?
do you have deathwing ,shylvanas ,anub arak,tomb pillager, savannah, a fucking hat and loot hoarder ? dont you dare talk to me and my children ever again. +Prince Malchazaarino Kripperino
Anyone remember what Kripp originally said about this card before it was released? Did he predict it would be good as he's saying now? Just out of curiosity.
I'm not super convinced on the grand crusaders. A good chunk of the paladin spells are very low cost garbage like their secrets or situational like equality. Getting discounts when you hit those cards is still pretty bad imo. Either way, I don't have any of them so I swapped in Cairne for more N'zoth and am also trying out Chillmaw just for a big taunt that can be brought back from N'zoth.
LOL I made my own version of this deck (don't have LoE) and all I faced were zoolocks and face shamans. Guess how well that went. Kripp so lucky to run into all control decks with this. Trust me, it's not a fun deck to play versus aggro.
Y'know what this might go well with? Gang up. I was thinking you only had two Ethereal peddlers, which seemed a bit unfortunate. And you could also gang up enemy cards, letting you get more of other classes cards.
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Ethereal Peddler is a Rogue card.
Do you know what Rogue lacks of?
Heal.
So take only one.
Nope. Burgle is heal. Always.
+Nathan Ritscherle except versus huntard where you actually need the heal FeesBadMan
That's when you you get call of the win, coin it out, and win because you played it first.
oh the irony I made a reno burgle deck yesterday.
Nathan Ritscherle or you get core ragerino Kripperino FeelsBadMan
Is no one bothered by Shifter Zerus turning into Nerubian Prophet and then not getting the discount nor keeping it through transformations just like effects of cards like Bolvar?
Because I certainly am!
If it actually had a chance to reduce it would keep it
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There you go random citizen.More Nerubian Prophet knowledge for you.
It shouldn't in this case. Shifter Zerus "entered the hand" first, so his effect goes first. First Zerus transforms, then Nerubian would go off. Bolvar's effect can happen mid-turn, so there you go.
+Ryan Bunnell I don't really get what you are trying to say as from your logic and past evidence it should still go off,maybe I'm just too tired.
Do you mean it does not work because it is his first transformation?
Because the effect of Nerubian Prophet worked very obviously before and was intended.Think it was even in one of Toasts stuff.So I can't really see it not working now.Especially since this card exists Nerubian and Bolvar were the main selling points of the Zerus effect in terms of potential unexpected value and another reason why I love Nerubian Prophet due to its positive influence on Zerus.
Card effects go off in order of entering the field they are in (ie hand or board). Zerus's effect goes off at the beginning of your turn. When would Nerubian get a chance to go off?
That awkward moment when you play a mirror match and most cards you get aren't actually from other classes.
still gets some value
or you just burgle into burgle into burgle into burgle and dont care that your 5 mana minion is a 5/6
I thought that when I faced one against my rogue. What happens is that he deck just turns into a Tempo mage, except with more ways of getting cards at a cheaper mana cost. And note that rogue spells given to rogue are already cheap and deadly.
So yeah.. it still works. No , I didn't win against them.
Why is that awkward?
*****
it still works on grand crusader and zerus and is a 5/6. this deck doesn't have a bad matchup against rogue either in general.
G2A's Favourite deck LUL
MEGALUL
ULTRALUL
[PogChamp'ing fucking intensifies]
FLAMEWREATHED LUL
Someone explain pls :(
Rekful saw those 8 manna pyro blasts and jumped off a cliff to his death
This card can make me and my minions super cheap and broken for their mana cost. I'll let it slip, it's okay card.
I am going to destroy all of your minions and cards.
You 2, get a life
+Deathwingerino Kripperino Not if I win before you can even be played.
I have Shadow Word: Pain for Fandral and Shadow Word: Death for Deathwing. Checkmate.
+Controlerino Kripperino but do you have an answer for 4/3 tiger and 4/6 taunt with charge?
4:20 Does the ethereal peddler peddle weed? :thinking:
Blaze it.
what is blazerino?
only ethereal weed.
i wouldn't recommend,human minds cant handle it.
2:38 beat that skipperinno
he is dead...
So cute
+Skipperino Kripperino rekt xD
1:03 Rogue has no heals?
Pfft, remember when Rogue healed 3 times by 3 antique healbot. Ahh, i remembered shoving the phone at my step dad's ass after that :).
8:44 "Some luck requir..." CUT THE CLIP, THEY CAN'T HEAR IT
quack
Your job sucks lmao
But can you quack like a duck when you suck?
This might be the dumbest Kripp, l like it.
Woof.
much kripp, such wow
that dank reckful missing lethal at blizzcon reference at 4:12
Thank you, Kripp. This is the first time since the beginning of Hearthstone that I enjoy playing Rogue. I have 3 golden classes but before this deck I had fewer than 10 ranked wins with rogue. But this deck may carry me into the triple digits.
4:18 SHOTS FIRED RECFUL
and not missed :P
I wasnt in the deck. Now im dissapointed.
It's because you can get mind-controlled.
No kripp face on Deathwing
Disappointed
It's cuz you aren't cute like me. Woof.
i like you id give ya a treat anytime
Personally, using the deathwing, dragonlord picture with a Kripp face attached spewing fire is much cooler.
So glad people are using this deck! I prefer it in Wild though because you get more interesting stuff to steal. It's so much fun!
Haven't had so much fun in Hearthstone in ages thanks to this deck. Good one!
That deck is too much fun for only one video! More :D
Rub my belly, Master Kripp.
Woof, Woof
New favourite Kripperino
See? Nobody can resist my cuteness.
Where is Belly Rubberino?
Looks like a really interesting and fun deck ^^. Well done Kripp.
I honestly think this card is good enough and does enough that Thief Rogue might become a thing. I don't think it's Tier 1, but it's still a surprisingly effective deck.
the thing is this deck has a lot of value, which it most of the time out value control or midrange decks. that is if they discover good cards
non-aggro decks in >current year EleGiggle
I've been playing it at around rank 4 this season today and it's actually pretty good, record is 7-4 with it. Although kripps version of this deck is dogshit as per usual. Playing rogue without prep is so unbelievably stupid I can't even comprehend it. His examples of a control version being good were in adventure and at extremely low ranks where you can literally have success with anything. But hey this 'theif rogue' is fun so who actually cares
do you play a sort of miracle burgle rogue using this?
So what's your deck list? How do you fit the Preps? I'm playing a budget version of this as well, at low ranks, buts its soooo muuuch fun! Except when you get 3 consecutive Demon Fuses vs an aggro lock..
"prepare for the ultimate guest" guest acepted :-D
I just want to say, this "new style of control deck" is something that I have been doing for a long time. Especially in Mage.
1:47 Grand Crusader is a great card as seen in Day[9]'s Reno Rogue video, part 2. =P
This deck is simply beautiful. Thank you Kripp!
8:43 light of justice mattered ;)
4:12 shots fired...
3:35 kripp mentioned reckfulls lethal miss
22:26
Lord Jaraxxus is floating.
What does 'other classes' mean? Classes that isn't Rogue or a class ur hero is not? What if I draft this card from an unstable portal as a mage? Do my entire hand get discounted?
Turns out peddler is preeeeety gooood!
If Kripp and Kibler would ever sit down for a coffee they would prolly come up with some genius shit
What's a good replacement for shifter zerus in this deck?
"this deck is basically a card generating machine" *dane laughing in the distance*
4:14 : lethal not missed.... what would reckful say?
13:46 wrong order should have played the ethereal first and then the heal. In that case you would have 2 extra mana for redagger
if you go against another rogue does it still discount them? no right?
nope
Only cards in your hand that belong to another class. So fighting a rogue actually half counters this deck also, since you'd be "stealing" rogue cards.
Is value rogue possibly back?!?!
After that final BM all the bleach drank themselves.
Question: does ethereal peddler discount yseras cards? Thanks
If You play renounce darkness does it work with ethereal paddler
since you produce so many cards wouldn't elise be great as a late game sure fire win by drowning your opponents on value? Also how would peddler discount interact with monkey transforming them? Would there potentially be a 4 mana rag or a 2 mana sylvanas potentially?
7:53 In what world does that play make sense!? Rank 18 Isn't an excuse! Giving something for the opponent's Sylvanas to steal and equality all your minions when you could of avoided all of that by simply doing it in the proper order! There's misplays and then there is just being terrible!
There's misplays and then there is Americas servers.
+Torulf Viking I'm from the Americas...
+Gareth Rowbotham so? Still doesnt make his statement less true..
when I saw this card come up in kripp's last video about this deck, i thought it was an aura effect at first (wasn't quite paying attention) do you guys think this card would be better or worse as an aura rather than a battlecry?
How many cards is it possible to have, with gang up etc all used in one deck ?
Can you go over 50 cards ?
You can add up to 60 cards to your deck in a match. By that I mean you can add up to 60 cards into your deck. You can generate as many as you like.
Yup. Pick 3 malchezaar decks can confirm
That feel when it appears Peddler is bugged with Nefarian and Grand Crusader.
Does Kripp craft golden cards or does he just open them in packs
dont you feel like the deck lacks healing, like farseer or vendor?
Have you thought about doing the talks AFTER the games or maybe after one-two games in the middle ? things you say would make much more sense if footage of games would be shown prior
15:05 world first. Golden purify was played.
Most entertaining deck I've seen in awhile
What does "other classes" means? Different from rogue or from the class you are playing? (example if you entomb it as a priest)
Sorry for my English.
Well, it SHOULD be other decks from what you're playing, but...
Blizzard Programming.
LUL.
other classes than the one that plays the peddler. If you steal it with a priest it wont reduce your priest cards
+Victor Lara Bailac ok, thank you
so how well did it do vs. aggro? right, that's what i thought.
Replacement for Zerus and two pally crusaders?
I don't understand why the Peddler didn't reduce the costs of paladin cards gained by grand crusader. Can anyone explain?
is itt actually worth crating crusader and zerus?
Not really dude.Better craft all those good cards that are useful in multiple decks like ragnaros,tirion,sylvanas,fandral..
Missing Thalnos, Burgle, Saraad, and one Grand Crusader. Sad, sad me. I really want to try this. :(
04:18 shots fired at reckful, shieeet
Not missed lethal, I'm dying.
The ten mana, board-clear, deck empty, weapon BM has been born
What about playing Shadowstep to get more peddler value? I mean the deck kidna revolves around that battlecry and in the end you only have two...
Does Ethereal Peddler work with Dream Cards?
So it's basicly a Casino Rogue.
Only liked because of your profile pic
but it isn't the dolan duck he will be here soon
Any deck consisting of entirely random cards can be called Casino something.
Which is interesting because the Casino isn't that random. The Casino always wins.
By the time you randomly win something the Casino already won. If there were decks in Hearthstone that were that consistent at appearing random but always winning like a Casino we'd.
I'd guess we'd still be pissed off about it but what else is new?
did he backstab a stealthed minion at the end?
What happens when you play against another rogue?
not as awesome as me :)
Why N'Zotherino is so friendly?
But I am definitely better than you. My legion could easily defeat your puny followers. All I need is deathwing. haHAA!
who says i am not . :)
+Plesius YOU WILL ALL BURN... Wait nah thats unoriginal.
do you have deathwing ,shylvanas ,anub arak,tomb pillager, savannah, a fucking hat and loot hoarder ? dont you dare talk to me and my children ever again. +Prince Malchazaarino Kripperino
Those were the days. When it was turn 3 and you still had 29 life.
why are the paladin cards not reduced by peddler ?
Ha, I can steal also! Not that anybody really cares, but, hey-o, we all know Blizzard care the least.
I hope I'm in your control deck :D
Controlerino Kripperino? More like Concederino Kripperino
Can Malchezar give you Legendaries from other classes?
No he can't unfortunately. Malchezarino Kripperino is a bit late so I thought I might give you the response. :)
Anyone remember what Kripp originally said about this card before it was released? Did he predict it would be good as he's saying now? Just out of curiosity.
You guys should see my Reno Ch'thun Nzoth control paladin deck.
The opponents order at 7:53 hurts my soul... when no equality and trade FIRST?!?
Just my experience of going second
Overall
Games:
214
Ratio:
150 - 64
Win %:
70.09%
With coin
Games:
90
Ratio:
59 - 31
Win %:
65.56%
Without coin
Games:
93
Ratio:
68 - 24
Win %:
73.91%
1 - Play Warlock
2 - Put Renounce the Darkness in your deck
3 - Become a Rogue
4 - Draw Etheral Peddler
5 - Profit
Seriously, what is that card back in the rhumbnail?
I once thoghtsteal a eternal peddler and surprisingly it discounted the coat of my priest cards
Nice to pick up from Renounce Darkness and give all cards -2 cost ;)
I'm pretty sure that dragon paladin was using my list FeelsGoodMan
I'm not super convinced on the grand crusaders. A good chunk of the paladin spells are very low cost garbage like their secrets or situational like equality. Getting discounts when you hit those cards is still pretty bad imo. Either way, I don't have any of them so I swapped in Cairne for more N'zoth and am also trying out Chillmaw just for a big taunt that can be brought back from N'zoth.
Kripp is the secret genius of heathstone deckbuilding. Every weird gimmick deck he makes and plays with he claims it wen't like 20-3.
What if i get a peddler through renounce darkness?
i made this deck with cthun Nzoth and reno.
oddly enough its surprisingly weird and so funny.
Hey guys, can some1 tell me what decktracker and its settings kripp uses? :D
Prepare yourselves, FOR THE ULTI- quest accepted!
So basically Emperor Thaurisan surviving two turns
OMG KRIPP YOU DID THE BIGGEST MISPLAY OF ALL TIMES!!!
12:52 YOU SHOULD OF USED PURIFY ON SYLVANAS FOR INFINATE VALUE
LOL I made my own version of this deck (don't have LoE) and all I faced were zoolocks and face shamans. Guess how well that went. Kripp so lucky to run into all control decks with this. Trust me, it's not a fun deck to play versus aggro.
Any deck with nexus champion is good in my eyes.
Has his growth stopped? Hast he been at 800k a long time now?
And you all thought i was useless...
I didn't
13:44 purify finally good
Why is Flamerino Wreatherino not a card?
is it me or does it seem that krip puts nzoth in every deck he builds
if I didn't hate playing valeera so much I would build and play this deck right now
need a 'how good is defender of argus'
Y'know what this might go well with? Gang up. I was thinking you only had two Ethereal peddlers, which seemed a bit unfortunate. And you could also gang up enemy cards, letting you get more of other classes cards.
man i remmber how i was like the 4kripperino made FeelsGoodMan
ooo we got some spicy kripperinos in the comments today keep up the good work boys.
"Lethal not missed" Lmfaooo Reckful recked