Prime/base mode is more suitable for long-range weapons style fighting while knight mode is for close up combat and is obviously stronger seeing he have more strength feats than Base prime
Knight mode is the strongest Optimus form in all of movies and he would actually beat Jetpower and Jetpack modes for multiple reasons. One, Knight mode has extremely good armor which was never seen to be crumbling or heavily damaged. Jetpower and Jeypack modes are very fragile and they lose parts everytime they get hit. Second, Knight mode is more bulky and has way more 'muscles' than Jet modes, but he also has the same speed, which if they fight, they would be equal in speed, but Knight mode would deal more damage to Jet mode than Jet mode to Knight. Jet mode won't even damage to Knight mode since his weapons aren't really strong unlike Knights modes. Third of, Knight Optimus still has brawler weapons like his Mega striker and gun shield and his shotgun. Last of, his knight mode is his true form, which makes him the most powerful version of himself in the movies.
I agree about the JetFire-Pack stuff, but both his Prime and Knight Modes still have to be close in power. If Optimus was indeed built as a Knight (which is likely) then that means that at some point he opted to turn into his Prime Mode on Cybertron. So they have to be close in power because it would be illogical for Optimus Prime to switch to a weaker state on purpose. I still think Knight Mode is slightly stronger though.
Optimus Prime's knight form makes him look like that if he got that form in ROTF while getting boosted up by Jetfire when he gave him his parts, he'll take on The Fallen with ease and that ROTF Megatron will have a bad time in that fight. Especially with the Matrix of Leadership in his chest.
Optimus in the first 3 parts just looked badass. Now he is just like every other car...polished,round and stuff like that. i would LOVE to see the 2007 design come back even if just as a flashback.
G1 Prime was awesome for sure. And it is also really close between Prime and Knight mode Optimus. I could see why you think Prime mode Optimus is stronger.
maybe is knight form stronger but designs 2007-evasion win for me my favorite is dotm with abs, i also love knight mode but i love to see some truck’s parts etc Dotm Optimus Prime with his Mentor Sentinel Prime are my favorite designs❤
I would say both are powerful but I would lean more into knight Optimus for his strength since he was able to swat grimlock who weighs 850 tons and is more durable than the original trilogy Optimus.
Knight mode Optimus without a doubt is stronger, but i like the prime mode way more. If you look at that form, you can somewhat make out what he transforms into. You can see his 6 wheels, semi truck like exhaust pipes and the big square like windows. Whereas on Knight mode, you can only make out the exhaust pipes. Apart from that there are no clear indicators of what he transforms into. In other words, he doesn't look that much like a traditional transformer.
Knight mode is the superior of the 2 It’s stronger physically, being able to kick knight megatron through a cybertronian metal wall with minimal effort while prime mode could only kick the much lighter starscream a few meters away He’s faster and more agile due to his more streamlined body As for weapons, Knight’s main weapons are the sword of judgment and shield but not only does the shield double as an ion blaster but he also has a small shotgun that he can deploy from his arms, the main weapons of prime mode the energon blades were actually originally part of the knight arsenal and we see them used in the battle against galvatron on the highway, they were lost that day, the right arm mounted one being destroyed by galvatron in the fight while his left arm mounted one was striped from him by the cage lockdown threw him in on the knight’s temanos which is also how Optimus lost his fusion cannon that he had during the raid on KSI While prime mode required the jet pack segment of his trailer, knight mode has hidden thrusters on his back and his legs Knight mode is just the better of the 2
Well, I somewhat agree. His Prime and Knight Modes have to be close in power simply because it would be illogical for Optimus to switch to a weaker state on purpose. If Optimus's Knight Mode was that much more powerful, he would have been in his Knight Mode the whole time. Not only in 2007, but also during the War on Cybertron. I still think Knight Mode is slightly superior though due to being slightly more agile and the ability to fly (without extra equipment).
2:50 you got it wrong,prime survived the stab because of the matrix but his armor was still improved - without the matrix he wouldn't survive or at least be heavily damaged
I prefer Prime mode. That’s my favorite design. Not to mention the fact that he wore a jetpower in ROTF and in DOTM there’s a difference design called jetwing. Both of them are awesome!
knight Optimus also has a quad barrel shot gun integrated into his arm, missile launchers and a shield cannon (both integrated in his shield), an arm integrated dagger and knuckle spikes
Prime mode is just the classic for me because it's the first version of prime I ever saw, so I am biased but I like prime mode more because it makes the transformers still retain that semblance of being robots that transform into vehicles. Also, knight mode has a worse transformation sequence, original transformations were AMAZING in detail and style, along with the sound efffects
the fact he was still "pacifistic" during that 3v1 in revenge of the fallen (till he got his jaw kicked off by megatron) is insane, he couldve gone for vital parts but instead of that i attacks megatrons legs, and grindors mobility/weapons, then he just starting ripping faces off
In a fight, knight Prime is stronger. However, which design do you prefer? I know the knight design is controversial but I'd like to know what you think.
I like the Knight design, I feel like most things in the Bayverse, it is over-hated. For some reason, I really like Evasion Mode Optimus Prime's design, that is probably my favorite. But I still love the Knight design, but I also like all of his designs😂.
@@prime_bits it voilates first rule of optimis. , the windshields on. Chest , this is fundamental of his apperance . Another thing is it doesn’t look like transformer it looks like a robot
Knight mode lol I also feel like knight mode is fed up with everybody and everything so mentally he is tougher/more strict whereas in the trilogy prime mode is more forgiving and nice
I think that Prime mode is also the same strong as Iacon mode. The only difference is his Atoms structure that his t-cog change every atom every molecule in his body for new knight looking shapes so when his all matter was more close together in humanoid looking armor and not sticking vehicle parts like doors or windows on his chest or wheels on his legs so he can now in knight form survive more attacks because all vehicle parts are now closer together and not like in Prime mode.
I always preferred the prime version especially the one with the abs in dark of the moon and I think that is the more powerful version being an upgrade of wheeljack. The prime version is a bit more powerful than the knight one because as you say in the video the prime version did a 1 v 3 in the forest battle and basically win (if sam hadn't been there to disturb the fight) and in dark of the moon he destroyed luke 5 or 6 decepticons in one row and destroyed with no effort shockwave. The knight variant as you say in the video has only the sword and shield and I think it lacks on versatily, on speed and agility maybe the knight variant is better but on the forest battle the prime variant showed how he can be fast in a close fight. On fire power and streght the prime variant obviusly wins but on armor the knight variant take the edge because in the fight with lockdown he survived being stabbed in. the chest.
He can only carry so many weapons though. He couldn't just run away and grab another weapon from his trailer mid fight. At the end of DOTM, Optimus was able to carry an "ion blaster", "Dual Energon Swords", "Energon Axe", and that is all unless his spike knuckles count. And in TF5 Optimus has "Sword of Judgment", "Shield", at least one metal wrist sword, and 1 Shotgun maybe 2. So they both have similar arsenals but Knight Modes weapons are much higher in quality.
I always thought that Knight mode had slight regenerative abilities. He's back on his feet after getting shot through the back by Lockdown No problems after pulling out his own sword from his chest Survives in the cold void of space, coming out unscathed right after freezing and crash landing
I like to think that Optimus upgrade his forms to make it stronger cause the injuries of previous film, anyways i like more 2007 version. All OG Transformers design is what make Bayverse unique and more realistic. Knight form need more red and classic truck windshield on his chest.
While knight mode may have a slightly better body and better features, his skill level is still the same from dotm and on. Because right after dotm the autobots were forced into hiding so there Optimus would just be sitting around for years, only moving when needed. And when we see him go against Galvatron he does struggle a bit. And it's worth noting Galvatron is basically a scaled down, weaker version of 07 Megatron. So if knight Optimus had a bit of trouble with him then 07 Megatron would still top knight Optimus.
Optimus was in stasis for a while after Mexico City. He had to have driven around a bit because he got into Texas, but after that, he was in stasis. So he was kind of sleeping. He wasn't in full-fledge stasis-lock like Sentinel, but he was in a form of stasis. Optimus did struggle for a bit against Galvatron but he was looking out for Tessa. And Optimus did have Galvatron pinned to the ground. I still think Optimus is stronger than Galvatron, but there is a really good chance that 2007 Megatron is indeed stronger than all of Optimus Prime's modes.
@@prime_bits here's the thing, the fight ended when Optimus had the upper hand. That doesn't mean Optimus would've won, Galvatron was very clearly dominating in the beginning, so if the fight ended there, would that mean Galvatron was stronger? I'm sure most would not agree with that. So saying that Optimus was stronger just because he had the upper hand when the fight was stopped shouldn't be valid. And seeing how Optimus fought in the forest battle, Tessa had 0 impact on that fight. Optimus almost steps on Sam numerous times which proves onces he's in fight mode he's in to win or die. I know some people say he was holding back against Megatron but if Optimus has shown us anything its that he always goes full on.
@@OneWithNoFace Very good points. But I do think at the start of the fight he was concerned about Tessa's safety. We see him look down at her (twice in total, on separate occasions) to check on her. Then Optimus says "you have no soul" and then he locks in. Then Optimus "appeared" to have the upper hand after that. But I don't know if we saw enough of the fight to truly determine who is stronger. Also, Galvatron had like no screen time besides that fight. It is kind of a blurry comparison.
the thing about prime mode is that optimus is WAY LESS tanky. Almost every final fight prime mode is in he takes significant damage by the end. While Prime Mode is more versatile we cant forget that Prime still has his energon swords and shotgun
In terms of Knight modes flight ability, I believe it is more like a rocket which can only go up, which provides him spaceflight or jump boosts. I don't think he could properly fly as a plane would like Jetwing Prime from DotM or Starscream.
Well the overall curvy and muscle design of knight mode makes it feel different, missing the mechanical feel and the wheels and stuff. It just didn't feel like transformers anymore😂
The sword and shield are not his original weapons. Stellarcycles before Optimus and the Autobots turned into protoforms to crash land safely on earth Optimus Primes true form was his Cybetertronian form which resembled his OG movie 1-3 counterpart just with different colour, mold and curves but same body shape looking in the TF 2095 Fandom Png image confirmed by Transformers itself. He didn't have an appearance of a Knight and humanoid form which means that knight Optimus wasn't his true form, it was the OG form
You could be completely correct, but after TF4 and 5 cannon was broken. We don't know Optimus Prime's exact origins now. However, I think it is reasonable that Optimus was built as a Knight by Quintessa. Quintessa said to him "I made you", now she could be lying, but she knew Optimus's name. Optimus also says in TF4 "recognize one of your Knights", so he was a Knight at some point. He could have been created as a Knight, or as a Prime, or both. Since his origins are unknown post TF4 and 5, it has to involve head-cannon, this is what I personally think is likely.
I think you forgot one thing, how many times has Knight mode killed megaton, 0. How many times had prime mode killed megaton, first helped Sam kill megaton while megaton was at his strongest, second killed megaton in dark of the moon with one arm as well as killing sentinel just before. I also feel like Knight mode got beat more than prime mode in battle. You also mentioned about being able to function at full power more when injured like when he was stabbed by lockdown but I think you forgot about him being crippled by being shot by lock down which looked to do similar damage. Also Knight mode has the disadvantage of never having any ranged weapons. Knight modes biggest strength is plot amour
his agility remained the same as in tf1 he did a backflip in his fight with bonecrusher, and in tf2 while saving sam he also did a back flip while firing at megatron and hitting him mid air, ill have to disagree
Very true, they could just be the exact same agility wise. But if you look closely when Optimus jumps onto Demolisher in TF2, you can see his body kind of swing awkwardly. But in TF4, when Optimus is jumping around fighting Grimlock, his body doesn't swing awkwardly at all. Perhaps Optimus purposefully swung his body in TF2, but it looked kind of weird. This could just be me over analyzing though. In fact perhaps they are the same. But still even with that, Knight Optimus can fly which I think gives him an edge.
It's hard to explain but what makes prime mode slightly better is if you compare the two body's in transformers 2007, revenge of the fallen and dark of the moon it's less bulky so it makes it easier and faster to move around with the last night and age of extinction it's more bulky but the main difficulty to explain is there are not many fight scenes in age of extinction and the last night well there is but they aren't much there not like the fight scenes from the previous movies in age of extinction you have pretty much two primary fight scenes with optimus prime and if you notice both fight scenes optimus moves slightly slower and in the last night he is much stronger but there are not many moments to see
@@dawsonjenkins4403 You could be right. But both of his modes have to be around the same power-level because it wouldn't make sense for Optimus to downgrade. I personally think Knight Mode Optimus is more agile than his Prime Mode. If you watch when Optimus jumps onto Demolisher in TF2, you can see his body kind of swing awkwardly. But in TF4, when Optimus was fighting Grimlock, Optimus was jumping around and his body was not swinging awkwardly. That could just be me over-analyzing though. Also Knight Mode can fly without needing extra parts which I think gives him an advantage.
@prime_bits I understand I'm just saying that there are bits and pieces with both bodies that have features that make one better then another but I feel like prime mode was a bit more suited for battle then knight mode mostly because you do not see many battles in age of extinction and the last knight that involves optimus prime because with prime mode he has a few courses of weapons swords, blasters, fists, hooks and in dark of the moon in the final battle he has an axe in age of extinction and the last knight he basically has a sword a shield and fists
He went from having pair of guns a different pair of guns a pair of burning energon swords a pair of burning energon curved blades a knuckle weapon (may or not have one on the other hand) a rocket launcher an axe an chainsaw an jetpack an trailer to store most of the stuff and the rest is just on him To having: flight (what he barely used) and a handheld sword A shield I'm not really knowledgeable on combat to know if blades extending out of the forehand or a handheld sword is better but Prime 100% lost out big time in AOE and TLK. Optimus is a lot quicker on his feet in 4 and 5 but I wish he kept some of his iconic loadout
Yeah, Prime Mode did have a lot of weapons. But more weapons doesn't = better, necessarily. Think about this, Sentinel beat Optimus with just a sword and shield. Megatron won the War on Cybertron with just a wrecking ball, a fusion cannon, a spear, and a gun. So more Weapons doesn't make him more powerful necessarily, it does make him more adaptable on a Battlefield, so Prime Mode is probably better for Wars. The Sword and Shield that Optimus got in AOE were WAY higher quality weapons compared to his other ones. The Sword can slice straight through people, his Energon swords couldn't cut through Megatron in TF2. His shield is a big advantage as well, it can be used as a gun, or as a shield. Optimus also adopted a better fighting style in AOE compared to before that. It is a much more effective combat style, it is similar to Sentinel Prime's (which Sentinel cooked Optimus with in TF3).
its your opinion guys but i preffer when he looks more like alien than tall mechanical knight. But head with face is better in knight mode the face and shield and smokestucks i love on knight form also his eyes looks more like eyes than iluminati logos but 2007-dotm-evasion have that vibe aka nostalgic i love his huge duck feet on old form, his windows with doors as chest and his blocky arms and also he looks like truck he is just build from peterbilt pieces. I dont see any western star parts on knight form only smokestucks and lit a bit doors on his chest but thars all. Knight form should be great look as protoform. Gave knight form prime some truck parts make him look more like transformer less like human and let his face renain because his face in knight form looks more like he feel emotion than the old face from 2007 with huge nose triangle eyes and weak jewline. Sentinel Prime looks better than 2007 optimus prime. Sentinel Prime no matter if you like him or not has the best design what looks like knight but still like transformer who transform into something in the same way. Also Sentinel Que and wreckers were the first 5 bayformers who stsrted theese more humanoid designs and aoe keep that idea
Knight fans are hilarious, like he gets caught be a giant net in aoe gets the crap beat outta him by bumblebee, meanwhile PRIME mode Optimus does backflips inside of buildings jumps from planes blows up pyramids, like he blew half of Megatron's head off then ripped the fallens face off fought off three Decepticons even when he was still in his Evasion mode in aoe he was able to handle lock down better hung him off the building then they're next encounter prime gets caught by a net, like Knight Optimus is the weakest by far, remember to that Optimus did not pocess the matrix while fighting Megatron and the fallen to,
I already know that Megatron made a mistake that optimus prime was stronger in transformers dark of the moon but in transformers age of extinction and the last knight I don't if he is stronger or he is true or false
Prime/base mode is more suitable for long-range weapons style fighting while knight mode is for close up combat and is obviously stronger seeing he have more strength feats than Base prime
@@scarfaceReaper Yeah, Prime Mode is better in Wars, but Knight Mode is all around better.
@@prime_bits agreed
Rotf optimus:
Did you guys not see prime Optimus getting jumped and still cooking in the forest
This video doesn't even make sense. Being able to fly doesn't mean better all around mobility. Knight is clearly very heavy.
Knight Optimus Prime looks jacked ngl
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yea looks more human. Look at those human-like muscles on his body😂
Prime literally bulked up, and did a clean cut, to get such an athletic looking physique
Tbh I think Knight Optimus looks ugly.
He is my favorite one
Knight mode is the strongest Optimus form in all of movies and he would actually beat Jetpower and Jetpack modes for multiple reasons. One, Knight mode has extremely good armor which was never seen to be crumbling or heavily damaged. Jetpower and Jeypack modes are very fragile and they lose parts everytime they get hit. Second, Knight mode is more bulky and has way more 'muscles' than Jet modes, but he also has the same speed, which if they fight, they would be equal in speed, but Knight mode would deal more damage to Jet mode than Jet mode to Knight. Jet mode won't even damage to Knight mode since his weapons aren't really strong unlike Knights modes. Third of, Knight Optimus still has brawler weapons like his Mega striker and gun shield and his shotgun. Last of, his knight mode is his true form, which makes him the most powerful version of himself in the movies.
I agree about the JetFire-Pack stuff, but both his Prime and Knight Modes still have to be close in power. If Optimus was indeed built as a Knight (which is likely) then that means that at some point he opted to turn into his Prime Mode on Cybertron. So they have to be close in power because it would be illogical for Optimus Prime to switch to a weaker state on purpose.
I still think Knight Mode is slightly stronger though.
Optimus Prime's knight form makes him look like that if he got that form in ROTF while getting boosted up by Jetfire when he gave him his parts, he'll take on The Fallen with ease and that ROTF Megatron will have a bad time in that fight. Especially with the Matrix of Leadership in his chest.
I agree, he would beat Lockdown
insane point. youre right
Optimus in the first 3 parts just looked badass. Now he is just like every other car...polished,round and stuff like that. i would LOVE to see the 2007 design come back even if just as a flashback.
Knight Optimus: “MEGATON!!!” *echoes*
2007 Megatron: “OPTIMUS!!!” *echoes*
*megatron
Since G1 Prime wasnt an option i will say Prime mode
G1 Prime was awesome for sure. And it is also really close between Prime and Knight mode Optimus. I could see why you think Prime mode Optimus is stronger.
I love g1 prime but he would get smoked so fast against bayverse prime.
I still think knight mode is stronger
G1 optimus is cringe !!
No way! @@No_Name_419 O.G. Optimus is the originator
maybe is knight form stronger but designs 2007-evasion win for me
my favorite is dotm with abs, i also love knight mode but i love to see some truck’s parts etc
Dotm Optimus Prime with his Mentor Sentinel Prime are my favorite designs❤
he isn't talking about what design looks better he is talking about what prime mode was stronger
@@Jayroky223I know. Read my comment again.
you are the goat
I would say both are powerful but I would lean more into knight Optimus for his strength since he was able to swat grimlock who weighs 850 tons and is more durable than the original trilogy Optimus.
Agreed
2:38 i can see Optimus is a professional Souls-game player
3:15 none is edging no one 💀
Give the knight mode the brass knuckle and hand cannons, he’s going to be unstoppable.
Knight mode Optimus without a doubt is stronger, but i like the prime mode way more. If you look at that form, you can somewhat make out what he transforms into. You can see his 6 wheels, semi truck like exhaust pipes and the big square like windows. Whereas on Knight mode, you can only make out the exhaust pipes. Apart from that there are no clear indicators of what he transforms into. In other words, he doesn't look that much like a traditional transformer.
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Optimus Prime can beat Iron man
You right
Depends on which one you're talking about
Knight mode is the superior of the 2
It’s stronger physically, being able to kick knight megatron through a cybertronian metal wall with minimal effort while prime mode could only kick the much lighter starscream a few meters away
He’s faster and more agile due to his more streamlined body
As for weapons, Knight’s main weapons are the sword of judgment and shield but not only does the shield double as an ion blaster but he also has a small shotgun that he can deploy from his arms, the main weapons of prime mode the energon blades were actually originally part of the knight arsenal and we see them used in the battle against galvatron on the highway, they were lost that day, the right arm mounted one being destroyed by galvatron in the fight while his left arm mounted one was striped from him by the cage lockdown threw him in on the knight’s temanos which is also how Optimus lost his fusion cannon that he had during the raid on KSI
While prime mode required the jet pack segment of his trailer, knight mode has hidden thrusters on his back and his legs
Knight mode is just the better of the 2
Well, I somewhat agree. His Prime and Knight Modes have to be close in power simply because it would be illogical for Optimus to switch to a weaker state on purpose. If Optimus's Knight Mode was that much more powerful, he would have been in his Knight Mode the whole time. Not only in 2007, but also during the War on Cybertron.
I still think Knight Mode is slightly superior though due to being slightly more agile and the ability to fly (without extra equipment).
prime took on 3 decepticons all at once and almost won, but in knight mode he almost lost to bumblebee showing that bumblebee is insanely strong.
2:50 you got it wrong,prime survived the stab because of the matrix but his armor was still improved - without the matrix he wouldn't survive or at least be heavily damaged
I prefer Prime mode. That’s my favorite design. Not to mention the fact that he wore a jetpower in ROTF and in DOTM there’s a difference design called jetwing. Both of them are awesome!
Knight mode has his strength more compacted and streamlined in my opinion, plus the agility is a massive advantage
so he is faster?
@@jmgonzales7701 he can fly, so obviously
knight Optimus also has a quad barrel shot gun integrated into his arm, missile launchers and a shield cannon (both integrated in his shield), an arm integrated dagger and knuckle spikes
Prime mode is just the classic for me because it's the first version of prime I ever saw, so I am biased but I like prime mode more because it makes the transformers still retain that semblance of being robots that transform into vehicles. Also, knight mode has a worse transformation sequence, original transformations were AMAZING in detail and style, along with the sound efffects
Optimus whether knight or prime is still A Memorable, Metal Savior
knight mode definitely
the fact he was still "pacifistic" during that 3v1 in revenge of the fallen (till he got his jaw kicked off by megatron) is insane, he couldve gone for vital parts but instead of that i attacks megatrons legs, and grindors mobility/weapons, then he just starting ripping faces off
Knight mode Optimus low-mid diffs
In a fight, knight Prime is stronger. However, which design do you prefer? I know the knight design is controversial but I'd like to know what you think.
I like the Knight design, I feel like most things in the Bayverse, it is over-hated. For some reason, I really like Evasion Mode Optimus Prime's design, that is probably my favorite. But I still love the Knight design, but I also like all of his designs😂.
@@prime_bits it voilates first rule of optimis. , the windshields on. Chest , this is fundamental of his apperance . Another thing is it doesn’t look like transformer it looks like a robot
@@prime_bits exactly, there's nothing wrong with making your own versions of designs.
The fact lockdown shot Optimus primes sword 2:05
Ok i don't know if anyone mentioned that knight Optimus shield has a built in gun
And energon swords and another built in sword
Knight mode lol I also feel like knight mode is fed up with everybody and everything so mentally he is tougher/more strict whereas in the trilogy prime mode is more forgiving and nice
I think that Prime mode is also the same strong as Iacon mode.
The only difference is his Atoms structure that his t-cog change every atom every molecule in his body for new knight looking shapes so when his all matter was more close together in humanoid looking armor and not sticking vehicle parts like doors or windows on his chest or wheels on his legs so he can now in knight form survive more attacks because all vehicle parts are now closer together and not like in Prime mode.
the cool detail on AoE is when he started pulling out the sword, his gauntlet are transforming into a knight-like gauntlet
I always preferred the prime version especially the one with the abs in dark of the moon and I think that is the more powerful version being an upgrade of wheeljack. The prime version is a bit more powerful than the knight one because as you say in the video the prime version did a 1 v 3 in the forest battle and basically win (if sam hadn't been there to disturb the fight) and in dark of the moon he destroyed luke 5 or 6 decepticons in one row and destroyed with no effort shockwave. The knight variant as you say in the video has only the sword and shield and I think it lacks on versatily, on speed and agility maybe the knight variant is better but on the forest battle the prime variant showed how he can be fast in a close fight. On fire power and streght the prime variant obviusly wins but on armor the knight variant take the edge because in the fight with lockdown he survived being stabbed in. the chest.
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I think I saw him use his old weapons in knight mode.
@@maruf8273 Yes he did do that in AOE before he got his sword and shield.
Both of them are still the strongest than his g1 form
In knight mode u forgot that his shield was also a gun and his arm gun and arm sword
Knight next question
Prime mode mid diffs cause he has both a sword and shield but if it gets knocked away he can pull out another weapon
He can only carry so many weapons though. He couldn't just run away and grab another weapon from his trailer mid fight.
At the end of DOTM, Optimus was able to carry an "ion blaster", "Dual Energon Swords", "Energon Axe", and that is all unless his spike knuckles count.
And in TF5 Optimus has "Sword of Judgment", "Shield", at least one metal wrist sword, and 1 Shotgun maybe 2.
So they both have similar arsenals but Knight Modes weapons are much higher in quality.
Knight mode doesnt look like a transformer, its a gundam robot. But base looks more transformer like with wheels and stuffs poking around
So correct
He is one of the strongest characters that and plot armor
Bumblebee. Yeah Optimus used his knight mode with the Jetfire mode and is now a triple changing weapon master riding on a dinosaur
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I always thought that Knight mode had slight regenerative abilities.
He's back on his feet after getting shot through the back by Lockdown
No problems after pulling out his own sword from his chest
Survives in the cold void of space, coming out unscathed right after freezing and crash landing
Knight mode is less bulky than Prime mode? that's cap. Knight mode looks ripped AND bulked up than Prime
Prime Mode is more chunky than Knight Mode. Prime Mode has more large pieces of armor, Knight Mode is more streamlined.
U also forgot primes axes
Prime mode for me
It is definitely close, there are some arguments that give his Prime Mode an edge, but I personally think Knight Mode has more favorable arguments.
@@prime_bits primes mode looks better knight form is basically more humanoid which I don’t like mych
@@SpaceGuitar_ I could see that. I do prefer his Prime Mode design over his Knight Mode. I still like the Knight design though.
I like to think that Optimus upgrade his forms to make it stronger cause the injuries of previous film, anyways i like more 2007 version. All OG Transformers design is what make Bayverse unique and more realistic. Knight form need more red and classic truck windshield on his chest.
While knight mode may have a slightly better body and better features, his skill level is still the same from dotm and on. Because right after dotm the autobots were forced into hiding so there Optimus would just be sitting around for years, only moving when needed. And when we see him go against Galvatron he does struggle a bit. And it's worth noting Galvatron is basically a scaled down, weaker version of 07 Megatron. So if knight Optimus had a bit of trouble with him then 07 Megatron would still top knight Optimus.
Optimus was in stasis for a while after Mexico City. He had to have driven around a bit because he got into Texas, but after that, he was in stasis. So he was kind of sleeping. He wasn't in full-fledge stasis-lock like Sentinel, but he was in a form of stasis.
Optimus did struggle for a bit against Galvatron but he was looking out for Tessa. And Optimus did have Galvatron pinned to the ground. I still think Optimus is stronger than Galvatron, but there is a really good chance that 2007 Megatron is indeed stronger than all of Optimus Prime's modes.
@@prime_bits here's the thing, the fight ended when Optimus had the upper hand. That doesn't mean Optimus would've won, Galvatron was very clearly dominating in the beginning, so if the fight ended there, would that mean Galvatron was stronger? I'm sure most would not agree with that. So saying that Optimus was stronger just because he had the upper hand when the fight was stopped shouldn't be valid. And seeing how Optimus fought in the forest battle, Tessa had 0 impact on that fight. Optimus almost steps on Sam numerous times which proves onces he's in fight mode he's in to win or die. I know some people say he was holding back against Megatron but if Optimus has shown us anything its that he always goes full on.
@@OneWithNoFace Very good points. But I do think at the start of the fight he was concerned about Tessa's safety. We see him look down at her (twice in total, on separate occasions) to check on her. Then Optimus says "you have no soul" and then he locks in. Then Optimus "appeared" to have the upper hand after that. But I don't know if we saw enough of the fight to truly determine who is stronger. Also, Galvatron had like no screen time besides that fight. It is kind of a blurry comparison.
His 2009 and onwards megatron is stronger than his 2007 self, except for dotm.
@@prime_bits I 100% agree that we don't have enough to determine who is stronger
the thing about prime mode is that optimus is WAY LESS tanky. Almost every final fight prime mode is in he takes significant damage by the end. While Prime Mode is more versatile we cant forget that Prime still has his energon swords and shotgun
I'll say Knight Optimus is stronger, he's got the experience of prime optimus, and seems stronger with the enemies he's beaten
But remember when in the last knight,Optimus prime has a wrist blade on his forearm than can be deployed when he attacked bumblebee in TLK
Knight Optimus looks so good tho , he looks buff af
In Knight Mode, the Infernocons were just idiots unlike when Optimus fought Grindor, Starscream and Meg Griffin in a 3 v 1
But I still dont understand why it was done to change design from prime mode to knight mode. Can you tell me where hes been changed to knightmode
Well, it is quite simple, to sell more toys💀.
Knight mode also uses blasters and some sort or shotgun weapon
In terms of Knight modes flight ability, I believe it is more like a rocket which can only go up, which provides him spaceflight or jump boosts. I don't think he could properly fly as a plane would like Jetwing Prime from DotM or Starscream.
Could be.
Knight Prime's shield can turn into a blaster as well
Can you do the bumblebee versions wich its the strongest???
I wonder who would win, TS1 Megatron or Knight Mode Optimus.
Jet Knight Optimus Prime! Also let's slap the Transformers Cybertron's Sonic Wing and Savage Claw onto Optimus because why not!
Well the overall curvy and muscle design of knight mode makes it feel different, missing the mechanical feel and the wheels and stuff. It just didn't feel like transformers anymore😂
Prime mode is taller than Knight mode?
So what I'm getting is
Prime Mide for 1vMany
Knight mode for 1v1?
DId you even watch the last knight?
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When you realize age of extinction is 10 years old😦
1:25 btw the shield was also a blaster
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Knight mode + More weapons = True prime
Can you Cover bayverse comics prime.?
Prime is just built different
The sword and shield are not his original weapons. Stellarcycles before Optimus and the Autobots turned into protoforms to crash land safely on earth Optimus Primes true form was his Cybetertronian form which resembled his OG movie 1-3 counterpart just with different colour, mold and curves but same body shape looking in the TF 2095 Fandom Png image confirmed by Transformers itself. He didn't have an appearance of a Knight and humanoid form which means that knight Optimus wasn't his true form, it was the OG form
You could be completely correct, but after TF4 and 5 cannon was broken. We don't know Optimus Prime's exact origins now. However, I think it is reasonable that Optimus was built as a Knight by Quintessa. Quintessa said to him "I made you", now she could be lying, but she knew Optimus's name. Optimus also says in TF4 "recognize one of your Knights", so he was a Knight at some point. He could have been created as a Knight, or as a Prime, or both. Since his origins are unknown post TF4 and 5, it has to involve head-cannon, this is what I personally think is likely.
I think you forgot one thing, how many times has Knight mode killed megaton, 0. How many times had prime mode killed megaton, first helped Sam kill megaton while megaton was at his strongest, second killed megaton in dark of the moon with one arm as well as killing sentinel just before. I also feel like Knight mode got beat more than prime mode in battle. You also mentioned about being able to function at full power more when injured like when he was stabbed by lockdown but I think you forgot about him being crippled by being shot by lock down which looked to do similar damage. Also Knight mode has the disadvantage of never having any ranged weapons. Knight modes biggest strength is plot amour
You raise some really good points.
And since I made this video my opinion has slightly changed. I may update this video with a new video sometime soon
his agility remained the same as in tf1 he did a backflip in his fight with bonecrusher, and in tf2 while saving sam he also did a back flip while firing at megatron and hitting him mid air, ill have to disagree
Very true, they could just be the exact same agility wise. But if you look closely when Optimus jumps onto Demolisher in TF2, you can see his body kind of swing awkwardly. But in TF4, when Optimus is jumping around fighting Grimlock, his body doesn't swing awkwardly at all. Perhaps Optimus purposefully swung his body in TF2, but it looked kind of weird. This could just be me over analyzing though. In fact perhaps they are the same. But still even with that, Knight Optimus can fly which I think gives him an edge.
For me optimus strongest form is his knight mode and the jetpach prime
Definitely knight prime that's his true form and he took on grimlock in that form also and dominated
It's hard to explain but what makes prime mode slightly better is if you compare the two body's in transformers 2007, revenge of the fallen and dark of the moon it's less bulky so it makes it easier and faster to move around with the last night and age of extinction it's more bulky but the main difficulty to explain is there are not many fight scenes in age of extinction and the last night well there is but they aren't much there not like the fight scenes from the previous movies in age of extinction you have pretty much two primary fight scenes with optimus prime and if you notice both fight scenes optimus moves slightly slower and in the last night he is much stronger but there are not many moments to see
@@dawsonjenkins4403 You could be right. But both of his modes have to be around the same power-level because it wouldn't make sense for Optimus to downgrade. I personally think Knight Mode Optimus is more agile than his Prime Mode. If you watch when Optimus jumps onto Demolisher in TF2, you can see his body kind of swing awkwardly. But in TF4, when Optimus was fighting Grimlock, Optimus was jumping around and his body was not swinging awkwardly. That could just be me over-analyzing though. Also Knight Mode can fly without needing extra parts which I think gives him an advantage.
@prime_bits I understand I'm just saying that there are bits and pieces with both bodies that have features that make one better then another but I feel like prime mode was a bit more suited for battle then knight mode mostly because you do not see many battles in age of extinction and the last knight that involves optimus prime because with prime mode he has a few courses of weapons swords, blasters, fists, hooks and in dark of the moon in the final battle he has an axe in age of extinction and the last knight he basically has a sword a shield and fists
@@dawsonjenkins4403 Yeah, Prime mode is definitely better for Wars. Whereas Knight is probably better in direct combat.
He went from having
pair of guns
a different pair of guns
a pair of burning energon swords
a pair of burning energon curved blades
a knuckle weapon (may or not have one on the other hand)
a rocket launcher
an axe
an chainsaw
an jetpack
an trailer to store most of the stuff and the rest is just on him
To having:
flight (what he barely used)
and a handheld sword
A shield
I'm not really knowledgeable on combat to know if blades extending out of the forehand or a handheld sword is better but Prime 100% lost out big time in AOE and TLK. Optimus is a lot quicker on his feet in 4 and 5 but I wish he kept some of his iconic loadout
Yeah, Prime Mode did have a lot of weapons. But more weapons doesn't = better, necessarily.
Think about this, Sentinel beat Optimus with just a sword and shield. Megatron won the War on Cybertron with just a wrecking ball, a fusion cannon, a spear, and a gun. So more Weapons doesn't make him more powerful necessarily, it does make him more adaptable on a Battlefield, so Prime Mode is probably better for Wars.
The Sword and Shield that Optimus got in AOE were WAY higher quality weapons compared to his other ones. The Sword can slice straight through people, his Energon swords couldn't cut through Megatron in TF2. His shield is a big advantage as well, it can be used as a gun, or as a shield. Optimus also adopted a better fighting style in AOE compared to before that. It is a much more effective combat style, it is similar to Sentinel Prime's (which Sentinel cooked Optimus with in TF3).
All tho i would say knight mode is strong and fast . But i think prime mode is stronger than knight mode if he had his container tho
Can somebody tell me is G1 Optimus prime stronger because he also look pretty slick too though.
Now do sicko mode 😎😎
I like his design from age of extinction and the last knight more
I also like the Knight design, but I also love all of his designs😂.
knight form is Optimus primes true form
Knight mode, prime mode. How about Prime Knight Mode
Knight prime is definitely more buff than prime mode
I like them both but Knight Prime is badass 🔥
Knight Mode is🔥, but It depends on the day for which design I prefer. For some reason I really like Evasion Mode Optimus Prime's design though.
its your opinion guys but i preffer when he looks more like alien than tall mechanical knight.
But head with face is better in knight mode
the face and shield and smokestucks i love on knight form also his eyes looks more like eyes than iluminati logos but 2007-dotm-evasion have that vibe aka nostalgic
i love his huge duck feet on old form, his windows with doors as chest and his blocky arms and also he looks like truck he is just build from peterbilt pieces. I dont see any western star parts on knight form only smokestucks and lit a bit doors on his chest but thars all.
Knight form should be great look as protoform. Gave knight form prime some truck parts make him look more like transformer less like human and let his face renain because his face in knight form looks more like he feel emotion than the old face from 2007 with huge nose triangle eyes and weak jewline. Sentinel Prime looks better than 2007 optimus prime. Sentinel Prime no matter if you like him or not has the best design what looks like knight but still like transformer who transform into something in the same way.
Also Sentinel Que and wreckers were the first 5 bayformers who stsrted theese more humanoid designs and aoe keep that idea
Knight fans are hilarious, like he gets caught be a giant net in aoe gets the crap beat outta him by bumblebee, meanwhile PRIME mode Optimus does backflips inside of buildings jumps from planes blows up pyramids, like he blew half of Megatron's head off then ripped the fallens face off fought off three Decepticons even when he was still in his Evasion mode in aoe he was able to handle lock down better hung him off the building then they're next encounter prime gets caught by a net, like Knight Optimus is the weakest by far, remember to that Optimus did not pocess the matrix while fighting Megatron and the fallen to,
I already know that Megatron made a mistake that optimus prime was stronger in transformers dark of the moon but in transformers age of extinction and the last knight I don't if he is stronger or he is true or false
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i thought he is gone when he got stabbed by lockdown ngl
To be fair his shield is a blaster to 😂
it's prolly the one in the last knight
Night mode+prime mode
性能面で見れば騎士モードの方が優れているが、
戦闘面の強さで言えばプライムモードの方が優れている。
実際プライムモードの恐ろしいところは
あらゆる状況に適応し、様々なウェポンの汎用性が伺える。
Knight mode is trash i would say,the first 3movies n his rusty version in 4 looks the best.
I LOVE PRIME ❤❤❤
Knight optimus has a gun built into his shield
think of optimus from tramsformers prime beast hunters entering the chat! 😮😎⚡
Prime mode ❤