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Why Rubber Guard doesn’t work
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
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If you’ve been doing Jiu Jitsu very long, you have heard tons of opinions on the Rubber Guard; everything from “it’s a game changer” to “that never works on black belts”
Watch this video for a look at how to use the rubber guard in an effective and safe way.
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Great video Bmac. This is exactly what I teach at every seminar and in every class about rubber guard. It comes from the overhook and butterfly guard. It’s important to base rubber guard as just an option off a good overhook/underhook butterfly guard game. 👌👊
You’re without question one of the best rubber guard players of all time, so I take that as the highest of compliments.
@@brandonmcninja 🙅♂️👊❤️
Eddy i tell everyone to beware project bluebeam.
@@brandonmcninja it' can be useful in a fight , not so much in a Jujitsu competition
Never seen a Coral Belt use it
Seen guys use it in MMA and in steeet fights
In Competition Jujitsu it's not really effective
@@politiconvict3874 what moves have you seen a coral belt use in competition that you think are the most important to add to your game?
Very good video! Back in 2007, I bought the “Mastering the Rubberguard” book, and quickly became a rubberguard spammer. My problem was that the system worked so well that I neglected almost all other aspects of grappling for a very long time. I won a few MMA fights using Eddie’s game plans from that book, and I thought I was set.
I clicked on this video specifically because the thumbnail reminded me of an experience: At a grappling tournament, I was competing against one of Ricky Lundell’s students (Ricky was one of my biggest inspirations in submission grappling, so I felt a lot of pressure competing against his team)
But like clockwork, I followed the steps from the books exactly, and started to set up an omoplata. It was working, I nearly had it, then from the sidelines, I hear the voice of my grappling hero, Ricky Lundell call out “Don’t worry, you’re fine. Rubberguard doesn’t work.”
He said this as if coaching his athlete, but in reality, he was talking to me. I suddenly doubted the system, doubted myself, loosened up for just long enough- he passed my guard and tapped me out.
So the moral of the story (1) Rubber guard works, but you gotta believe! (2) it’s just a piece of the puzzle, not the whole thing (3) Never meet your heroes? Nah, Ricky was super cool- and I have since used variations of that cornering trick he showed me where you pretend you’re talking to your athlete, but you’re really pulling the other guy’s strings- that’s changed the tides of a lot of fights.
Anyway, I enjoy your content a lot! Thanks for the video, it brought back a lot of memories. Maybe I’ll spam rubberguard again tonight at the gym for old times sake.
That’s a great story, Ramsey! I appreciate you chiming in and I really appreciate you watching and throwing your support my way. It means a lot to me. Thank you 🙏🥰
An approval from you, Mr. Dewey is a testament that this video is good. More power to you and your channel.
Great stuff! Hip mobility > flexibility. Williams guard + rubber guard are really great tools for the half guard and butterfly. Hell... even starting from the closed guard will work if you understand the overhook.
This is sooo valuable and complements your online BMAC Academy courses. Folks, if you haven't already, go to the website, get registered and subscribe!! Take it from a really old guy who is now, thanx to BMAC, looking to learn more about the 10P system, and apply it on the mat s.
Hey Bran and Linds, ever thunked about hosting a BMAC camp for 10P "beginners?"
Just sayin'!!
I appreciate the kind words, and that’s a great idea about the camp.
BMAC THE GOAT!!! i’m the only one in my gym using rubber guard cause of these fire ass videos!
Could you eventually do a video explaining the steps and paths to higher level rubber gaurd moves? Like crack control, double bagging, invisible collar, dead orchard, the sorcerer etc? I've been trying to get a rubber gaurd gameplan ever since i started watching you. It would be great to see an in depth view of the options i have in one spot. Bc as of now, you would have to find out all the moves from RG and look them up individually (which i've done many times)
Dude you are a prime candidate for my rubber guard course. It’s on BJJ fanatics. Every thing you just asked for is laid out there
@@brandonmcninja ik i heard you say it at the end of the video then just felt stupid for asking 😭😭1000% boutta check it out tho!
Good stuff! The best tip I got from this is using the gogoplata attempt to open up their neck for the gogo clinch. Going straight to the clinch my opponent always tucks their chin making it tough to finish. Thanks😀
I was learning a lot about rubber guard just by watching your channel, but this video is the cherry on the cake! Thank you so much for helping the bjj community! ❤
I was going through your rubber guard catalogue last night! You read my mind you handsome bastard.
Thank you Brandon. I was making some of these mistakes. Trying to get to it from closed and not understanding where is too far gone. It actually makes sense why I'm starting to like rubber guard, cause it's related to butterfly; which is my favorite
Your videos keep getting better. Best dork on the internet 🙂🙂
7:34 I really like how you worded this: I laughed and learned at the same time.
Benjamin eddy is a rubber gaurd monster. I train to be like him ever since
Gold! The part about bringing the knee up before slapping on rubber guard is what I needed. I always let go when a bigger guy tries to explode up. - Good stuff as always!
Thanks for the point about raising my knee up to my face rather than grabbing my foot and putting that pressure back on my knee. I’ve had some success with rubber guard but can now see that the slight strain I’ve been feeling on either side of my knee is likely due to the torque I’ve been putting on the knee grabbing my foot rather than lifting my knee higher to my head.
I love the elbow Tuck, the top position where you lock them down with your elbow onto the ground with your knee, super solid way to get control
The title clickbaited me. I'm not mad. Liked, subscribed, and shared this video to my friend who uses Rubber Guard.
That shoulder lock when they get passed the knee is solid
I just picked up BMac’s Triangle course - outSTANding! So good!
HA! love this. I saw the title and came here to comment "rubber guard works for me" then realized the video is about how rubber guard works. fuck yeah
Excellent stuff as always Brandon and Lindsey.
One of the best videos on rubberguard
Absolute gold. Thank you so much
"I'm just...sitting in the same position I would be in if I had my legs crossed watching TV."
Fucking thank you, Brandon. I say this to people all the time in class, particularly with omoplatas.
These are great tips. I'll always remember that epic video of your escape from kesa gatame you did on the guy who came into your gym.
Ha ha yeah that was wild
I almost didn't click on this bc of the title. Glad I did!
I did it for a while, and I love the chains of attack, and it really helped my approach to the guard, especially 1/2 guard, but it definitely requires a higher level of flexibility and with a big strong pressure player it flat out tears my knees up.
Amazing video was unsure what to do in/with my rubberguard this helped alot!
Great coaching points, as usual. I really appreciate your material. Thanks.
Oh my gosh that smile at 3:40 almost had me spitting out my dinner lmaooooo
Amazing ! Thank you for the video! I needed to this explications for my game!!
thats it, i'm buyin your meathook instructional. just saw its even 51% off today. always felt natural to go to rubber guard, even as a hw people call flexible, but didnt know anyone really able to teach it. curious to see if i will be able to add it to my non existing game lol.
I am new to the channel, really eye opening stuff. Thanks for the knowledge!
Hearing an expert advise against rubber guard from closed guard and instead from a flattened out butterfly guard makes me want to learn it properly.
Thanks for this video! It explains so much!! Can you do a video with you in a live roll narrating your thoughts while using the Rubber Guard, please? I think it would be valuable.
Yeah I can do that!
You had me in the first half, normally I assume something isn't useless even if I get smashed doing it, these things, rubber gaurd, jabs, crosses, footwork, everything, to me is just tools, how good are your tools and how good are you at knowing when and how to use them, and how to use them together.
Do you look at mma and see what's more viable In mma from a bjj perspective.
I feel like my butterfly guard is very weak. I like to play rubber gaurd from closed. Learning these core principles i feel is going to help me develop both guards immensely. I usually am able to get to my side after getting to mission control from closed gaurd because my partner tries to pusture up and I use that at an assist.
Much love Bmac! 💜
Works pretty freaking good for me and I only learned it from the books!
Excellent pointers, though. Subscribing!
Flexibility is strength. If it doesn't bend, it breaks. Your muscles are bigger and stronger, because they can reach farther and they're longer.
Hey Bmac, love your instructional on bjj fanatics. Do you plan to release anymore instructionals on there in the future? Maybe some more rubber guard stuff from new jersey or like a troubleshooting issues from the rubber guard instructional?
It’s possible, yes. I have a Mount instructional there also.
But pretty much all of my content goes to my website
BMAC.mykajabi.com
@brandonmcninja I have the mount dominance instructional too! I've had a bunch of success recently in training with the punch choke thanks to you!
@@thefuturum_2474 love hearing that man. If you ever need anything just reach out
I don’t play this guard but this was really interesting.
I like playing rubber guard from butterfly, it’s op
You're 100% correct, no need for rubber guard and wasting your time getting ridiculously flexible just to do it. Hook/Williams guard (what Bravo called, "London,") is the exact same thing without putting your body in awkward and unnatural positions which you will be paying the price for later in life. It's not my fault Bravo is too stoned to figure out the extremely easy counter to why he claims he doesn't use it and eliminated it from his teachings.
Rubber guard to go go plata short? Thank you b!
The intro music works tho ❤🎉
Idk how.. but you got me 😂
Love this
BMAC THE BJJ GUY
A legend to white belts*
4:24 What do I do?! I don't know what to do! Don't leave me hanging like that man! ...oh, okay. I kinda see now some options. This battle is so hard.
Excellent video.
I have bad knees (multiple ligament tears), so I'll take those informations but adapt them to the william's guard where I find my knees to be in a safer position
Thanks !
Love the deets bmac. Grateful. #legend.
Who has the best video of rubber guard on bjj fanatics?
Me of course! Check the link in the description
@@brandonmcninja Thanks man. I just picked it up!
@@Deadward1113 awesome! Let me know if you have any questions. I’m available to help
that's crazy, i use New Jersey all the time when i can't reguard. i had no idea what it was, i just pulled it out of my ass.
Eddie bravo enters the chat
I bought Eddie's Mastering the Rubber Guard book when it came out years ago. How much has the Rubber Guard evolved since then?
Quite a bit! Eddie’s site is only like $5/month you should check it out. Or, I have a link in the description to my set on BJJ fanatics. I’m obviously biased, but I think it’s def worth picking up.
@@brandonmcninja BMac, I'm an hour into your instructional and it's blowing my mind!
@@ninjaguysith that’s what I love to hear!
Jiu jitsu practitioners disagree on a lot of things and maybe that is what makes the sport so great. But I also trust JD and Gordon when they say the rubber guard is not very good, and at this point rubber guard has been around a long time and there is little evidence of it being so good.
Brandon, I want to come train with you one day. What is the difference between Mission Control and New York?
@@Whyshouldyouknow4 New York has the hand trapped
Thanks so much for this coach!! I’m still learning what to do to win the inside space. What moves do Ben or boogie hit that requires max flexibility?
Oh man. They have several plays that require a lot. The way boogey clears the head in tight space. Ben’s hindulotine, etc
Brandon
Thank you. I get to New Jersey in my rolls but they still step over my knee that’s pinned on the ground.
Any help there?
Try to get that Belly Down movement drilled into your game. Same idea as a Powder Keg
@@brandonmcninja thank you
Awesome video. I picked up some good details in that…. I have some matches where I use rubber guard on my channel if your interested
rubber guard, rubber leg
Thanks Brandon, I just discovered a better way to the gg clinch, and I never thought of rubber from butterfly. -jamie (old friend from gracie worlds 2013. Remember me? I bowed to Eddie in the middle of our match and then through a long distant flying triangle where I fell flat on my ass, I’m gonna visit you very soon brother!)
I did mission control on a 12 year old boy. I weighed about 150lbs, my age was 38 yo, he weighed about 130lbs, maybe 120lbs.
We were jujitsu rolling. He was a new student and he didn't know about the no slamming rule.
Yes, he picked me up, completely lock in tight mission control and slammed me. It was so hard I had to let go of the lock.
Imagine what could happen with someone my own size and in his prime, in an MMA match, or even worse, in the street😅
😂 know when to bail, my man
@@brandonmcninja you are right, it's just that I didn't think a 12 year old boy would be able to pick 150 lbs around his neck. By the way that same boy for some reason cannot be strangled with triangle. Everyone in the class tried and he would not even run out of breath.
Some guys have insane biology😅
It's cool and can work, I'm still not going to stay on my back in a fight though.
Yeah you don’t wanna choose it. But there’s always gonna be a guy in the division who can put you on your back and keep you there. Gotta have a plan against that guy. And you gotta have mastery over your guard for that situation. So if you don’t train it regularly, that’s a bad spot to be in
Hey one thing i noticed is anytime i try to go to crackhead control from New Jersey i lose position because i can't double bag and they just blast out. Any tips or a video to cover this?
You’re letting them flatten you out. Stay on your side. And remember to clear the head immediately in New Jersey
Is there any solution to defense Sao Paulo pass by using Rubber guard?
Yea definitely! Rubber guard is perfect against that pass.
@@brandonmcninja can you handle this next time? Especially when someone underhook with c cup grip when he or she is on the top.
Big Red from 10th planet messed up a ton of people with that rubber guard. I know it works.
My knees are happy that I don't need to do RG
I’m an old man and have been playing rubber guard for over 15 years. Never been an issue with the knee. Doing leg locks and open guard flex stuffs is much much more dangerous to your knees
Grr8 instruction, your demeanor and cadence gives more value to your instruction
Not really a BJJ fan (like never will be lmao) but i did enjoy this video, solely based on how you broke things down, it was really interesting to watch 💯💯💯
Honestly, that’s as high of a compliment as you could offer me 🙏🥰
Didn’t see any rubber guard in the last adcc
There were a lot of things we didn’t see at the last ADCC. For example, I don’t remember seeing an anaconda choke. I think we didn’t see any kneebars either. I can’t recall exactly off the top of my head.
@@brandonmcninja those are finishes though.. rubber guard is a position..just an observation. No offense to you
@@carreromartialarts no offense taken at all! You’re always welcome to offer any criticisms, even if you do wanna be abrasive one day 🙏😂🥰
I will just say that I think the best and highest level practitioners don’t get caught in anything. So for the average player who just wants to learn and have fun, NOTHING is gonna work on high level guys. Like, Galvão is the one of the all time greats and he couldn’t play any position against Gordon. But that doesn’t invalidate the things that Andre teaches on works on at all.
I wish you tremendous success in your training and in your school!
I’ll actually be landing in Miami tonight for Subversiv. Come out for the show and say hi. Much love 💕
@@brandonmcninja thanks man and I agree it’s hard to make anything work at a high level. I love watching combat jiujitsu! It’s the future.
@@carreromartialarts we certainly agree on that! I really hope CJJ catches on. I think it’s incredibly good not just for the sport, but for the martial art.
Rubber guard doesn’t work that well when your opponent knows the basics of posture…
Neither does closed guard. That’s not stopping us from including it in the basics, though. Nothing works against proper resistance.
@@brandonmcninja very valid point Brandon. The more advanced I become in BJJ the more I stick to open guard. I wonder if that is true for most people.
Obviously it works, but will it fuck your knees up in 10 years?
I’ve been playing rubber guard since I was a white belt, which marks 16 years now. I’ve not had any knee issues at all from it.
Rubber guard doesn't work because I can't stick my big toe in my mouth.
It doesn't work because I am old, fat, not flexible and very lazy.
Sorry, I am a throw back old school fool with skills from the Rickson Gracie era.
But I do respect and don't allow you 10th planet jokers to get your legs above my arm pits or get under my croch...LOL
Keep up the Great work 👍
Lachlan, Gordon and Danaher ain’t fking with rubber guard, and it doesn’t work on them so I won’t even waste my time. Especially after I watched Marcelo Garcia absolutely sht on Eddie Bravos attempt to do anything.
So you're measure of what you will train is only what will work on Marcelo or Gordon? So you don't do anything? Because we don't even see these guys get their guards passed, much less submitted.
Expand your horizons a little bit and just enjoy jiu jitsu. The chances that need will compete against that level practically zero.
For MMA it doesn't. A traditional guard is better. Rubber guard guarantee you will either lie there and lose a decision or get passed and beat up
The argument you make could be levied against any guard in general though. You should be trying to get to the feet unless you’re actively stuck or choosing guard.
@@brandonmcninja IMO...of course...rubber guard takes a 100% commitment to staying on your back. I felt like ol' Hick Diaz lost his spot in the UFC due to this. It's so fun in a sport setting though. So fun.
I"m going to be honest. The names of this shit kinda keeps me from wanting to do it. Chill dog, New york, the zombie. WTF? Who comes up with these names and why? I just can't even.
I think there is a reason they call it zombie, and its actually an effective name for helping to learn the mechanics of the move.
sure, it'll work against cans like Jim Alers and whoever that other guy was...
and what relevant trophies does 10thp win? oh right...none. so dont focus on the stuff that obviously doesnt work and study the guys and teams that actually win stuff. not 10thp.
Vinny Magalhaes won ADCC gold. That’s literally as high level as it gets. And he won the gold medal match with rubber guard.
Tony Ferguson won the UFC interim title by submission from his guard.
10th Planet has put someone into the final 4 of ADCC multiple times.
Do ADCC and UFC gold count as high level? Or does that not meet your criteria?
@@brandonmcninja Vinny did that ages ago and it only worked bc no one knew what it was really. Ferguson didn’t do it from rubber guard. It’s still a fact and undeniable that 10p hasn’t won anything the past years. Their only good guy is Barch and that’s bc of his wrestling background. Martinez or Boem consistently get smashed. So what’s the argument again?
@@kirakid6058 your question was “what relevant trophies does 10thp win?” And I gave you the UFC and ADCC title.
That’s as high as I can go. If you need more prestigious titles, I confess: I have none.
@@brandonmcninja those titles are ages ago. it only worked back then bc it was new. it hasnt worked in years. my question is: what did 10p win in modern BJJ?
@@brandonmcninja just accept you joined a team with a non working system and which gets smashed everywhere.
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Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!