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@@Mtaalas That's why I asked about the vibration sensor and whether or not the unit's power display aligned with the measured power draw, neither of these were addressed in this video, and my question on that seems to have vanished...
This little station has been serving me well for almost half a year now. The major downside is that there is only three tip variants available, and they are rather small for soldering thermally demanding stuff. However, I found this station absolutely awesome for microsoldering (i.e. data line traces restoration with 0.1 mm wire), where you need that precision. And oh boy, does this station deliver that precision, because the tip is short, and it's quite easy to control under the microscope. I'd say that Pinecil with its wide range of thermally bigger T12 tips + TS11 with it's precision cover all soldering needs for me from soldering thick mains cables to 0402 SMD microsoldering. Edit: you know what? I opened my unit, found APM32 pack, and attached my CMSIS-DAPLINK programmer to the SWD interface you spoke about. I tried to dump the flash contents from the MCU (just because), aaaaand I found out the MCU is read-out protected. Why on Earth would a manufacturer protected MCU memory on a goddamn soldering station?
Could you do a review on the Geeboon TC22? I bought one for myself as the 50ish dollar price point was really tempting and it offered about the same as the Aixun T3A, but it would be interesting to see a proper review on it as it has been working quite well for me.
Refreshingly gimmick-free user interface. I've tempted by an Aixun T3B to replace my very aged Weller PS2-D/TCP 45 setup until seeing this...but then you put me off with the comments about the proprietary tips :) Thanks for the review.
If you’re in the US, the quick soldering stations are a total no-go imo. I’ve owned and used my TS1200 for several years now, and despite looking several times, I have not been able to find a chisel tip available in the US at all. At one point I tried to order some from Amazon UK, but they just canceled my order.
The holder is absolutely useless for holding spare tips. There is nothing in the design which prevents them from sliding all over the place once inserted for storage. Really surprised you didn't mention this.
@@khi787ghid if you want a usb one, probably the Fnirsi which I reviewed not that long ago. For a mains station, possibly the Mechanic, but I have a review of the Geboon which looks promising
@@sdgelectronics Some USB irons can put out 100v at the tip. I think that fnirsi is one of them. Tony359 did a video about it. That’s why TS100 has the grounding strap.
Could you please do a review on ATTEN ST-1509. It's a similar style station that seems quite decent on paper. It was released a few years ago, but there are still no good reviews on it.
@@ampuh214 Those are all classic stations with ceramic heater and replaceable tips, this style is basically obsolete by now. ST-1509 uses cartridges, similarly to JBC, Hakko T12 and this Quick thing.
21:51 that’s a ‘600F’ tip, right? Do you know it’s specific temperature BTW? Do you avoid using the sponge now? Roughly how much do you use the sponge compared to to brass curls? Probably why it ages so well is because it’s never been above 350C in its life, or maybe even less than that. I did wonder how a brand new tip would compare, incase they ‘improved’ the recipe because they were lasting too long…
Yeah, I don't like the brass wool much, or maybe the stuff I've got is poor quality, but I find my iron tip goes crusty and weird if I use it too much. Whereas the damp sponge keeps it much cleaner.
@@Agent24Electronics that crusty stuff is what protects it from oxidising at higher temperatures. A hot clean tip is bad. Always tin it before putting it down, especially if you prefer sponge.
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Thanks. I think I'm going to have to make myself some test PCB's like that. What are you using for your on screen power meter?
@@EEVblog it's a Hameg HM8115 power meter, but I'm just grabbing readings using SCPI and plotting with a short python script
@EEVblog If a station has a current shunt, you could measure across that to get the exact power into the iron?
@EEVblog Didn't you test this exact unit and you had some real issues with it? Maybe your unit is defective? :/
@@Mtaalas That's why I asked about the vibration sensor and whether or not the unit's power display aligned with the measured power draw, neither of these were addressed in this video, and my question on that seems to have vanished...
Do you have a recommendation for a best JBC style soldering station you’ve reviewed?
This little station has been serving me well for almost half a year now. The major downside is that there is only three tip variants available, and they are rather small for soldering thermally demanding stuff. However, I found this station absolutely awesome for microsoldering (i.e. data line traces restoration with 0.1 mm wire), where you need that precision. And oh boy, does this station deliver that precision, because the tip is short, and it's quite easy to control under the microscope. I'd say that Pinecil with its wide range of thermally bigger T12 tips + TS11 with it's precision cover all soldering needs for me from soldering thick mains cables to 0402 SMD microsoldering.
Edit: you know what? I opened my unit, found APM32 pack, and attached my CMSIS-DAPLINK programmer to the SWD interface you spoke about. I tried to dump the flash contents from the MCU (just because), aaaaand I found out the MCU is read-out protected. Why on Earth would a manufacturer protected MCU memory on a goddamn soldering station?
For transformer they must use different wire for different primary because of current. So, they can skimp here a little bit.
Could you do a review on the Geeboon TC22?
I bought one for myself as the 50ish dollar price point was really tempting and it offered about the same as the Aixun T3A, but it would be interesting to see a proper review on it as it has been working quite well for me.
Always a pleasure to watch these, thank you. Out of curiosity, was that the Multicore Ersin 362 spitting when you started the soldering test?
Yes Ersin 362 for the 1.2mm diameter solder.
@@sdgelectronics nailed it!
Hello! Tell me, what are the differences and which of these stations is better: Quick TS11 Smart or QUICK Q8?
Refreshingly gimmick-free user interface. I've tempted by an Aixun T3B to replace my very aged Weller PS2-D/TCP 45 setup until seeing this...but then you put me off with the comments about the proprietary tips :)
Thanks for the review.
If you’re in the US, the quick soldering stations are a total no-go imo. I’ve owned and used my TS1200 for several years now, and despite looking several times, I have not been able to find a chisel tip available in the US at all. At one point I tried to order some from Amazon UK, but they just canceled my order.
The holder is absolutely useless for holding spare tips. There is nothing in the design which prevents them from sliding all over the place once inserted for storage. Really surprised you didn't mention this.
What's the best bang-per-buck station you would recommend (to beginners)?
E.g., the KSGER with original Hakko tips?
@@khi787ghid if you want a usb one, probably the Fnirsi which I reviewed not that long ago. For a mains station, possibly the Mechanic, but I have a review of the Geboon which looks promising
@@sdgelectronics, thank you!
@@khi787ghid it’s good to have the option to use genuine Hakko or JBC tip. I don’t have one but Pinecil v2 with the short fine tips should be good.
@@sdgelectronics Some USB irons can put out 100v at the tip. I think that fnirsi is one of them. Tony359 did a video about it. That’s why TS100 has the grounding strap.
Could you please do a review on ATTEN ST-1509. It's a similar style station that seems quite decent on paper. It was released a few years ago, but there are still no good reviews on it.
or st60 st80 or st100. lol
@@ampuh214 Those are all classic stations with ceramic heater and replaceable tips, this style is basically obsolete by now. ST-1509 uses cartridges, similarly to JBC, Hakko T12 and this Quick thing.
21:51 that’s a ‘600F’ tip, right? Do you know it’s specific temperature BTW? Do you avoid using the sponge now? Roughly how much do you use the sponge compared to to brass curls?
Probably why it ages so well is because it’s never been above 350C in its life, or maybe even less than that.
I did wonder how a brand new tip would compare, incase they ‘improved’ the recipe because they were lasting too long…
The 600F tip was not the same one shown later in the video. Though it could be 600 as well.
Those cartridges look like Hakko ones, is that what they are? the modern Hakko line uses them.
You see, plastic chinesium is the height of alloy technology.
Can you test the KSger 180W C245 C210 ?
I recommend you also try the Hakko fx838....metcal and jbc eats them for breakfast
Mechanic C211 or quick TS11? I guess the mechanic but wanted to confirm. Thanks
@@ivanr5315 yes I think the Mechanic
this or Aixun T3B >?
@@andreasp3997 T3B has more options, but don't rule out the Mechanic
@@sdgelectronics which one? i confuse to buy aixun t3as or mechanic t360. c211 seems unavailable in my place
@@unintendedperson I wouldn’t get Aixun T3B, it has issues. Search UA-cam about it
@@davadoff yeah i know. but it has good performance at least when not meet earthed board
@@sdgelectronics but with this price options is makes the difference
Sugon T60 review plz.
Pls test Sugon T60 and T61
Brass wool is NOT the prefered method, and you will find that us 'sponges' are still around young man !
Yeah, I don't like the brass wool much, or maybe the stuff I've got is poor quality, but I find my iron tip goes crusty and weird if I use it too much. Whereas the damp sponge keeps it much cleaner.
@@Agent24Electronics make sure it's brass. There's a lot of cheap plated steel which will damage the tip
@@sdgelectronics I suspect that may well be true.
@@Agent24Electronics that crusty stuff is what protects it from oxidising at higher temperatures. A hot clean tip is bad. Always tin it before putting it down, especially if you prefer sponge.
@@Agent24Electronics Hi :)