lol, when you think about the strategy, it makes sense. Adam winning would have been an absolute massive advantage for Vaugn and Denofa for Odi to be knocked out in 32, he ended up winning the round.
I don’t understand how the battle before Adam on the last turn someone went way on the inside hitting that pylon, but Adam not even going as bad gets an incomplete lmao. Also the battle before was very similar and they did one more time... judges clearly pickin favorites.
@@derekwilliams5689 I usually just do the same lol. I tuned into the broadcast at the right time though and got to watch that run before adam. And when I saw adams run after and how the judges judged it I was thoroughly confused
It still blows my mind that this all started with a bike and a dream. Glad to play a part, keep it up Adam, AND Collete, can't wait to see you destroy competition!
Yeah, i was watching the stream thinking damn, probably OMT or the win for Adam. I was amazed when all 3 judges chose for Odi. Edit: I understand the judges logic, but Adams incomplete is really questionable.
Not just Adam. Some of the drivers that are not as consistent (Adam, Rad Dan, Kyle Mohan, Matsuyama ect.) get tougher judging when they go up against a top 4 sort of guy in 32. Obviously FD doesnt want someone randomly going beast mode and disrupting the championship points leaders in 32, so anyone facing Odi\Chelsea\Osbo\Field has to be so perfect there's no way the judges could vote against them.
28:19 wait wait wait, so magicly there was a rule change since the first round and not a single driver knew about it? We are on round 7.. they have driver meetings for what? Even Vaughn who has been competing in FD for 15 years was confused with that call, and said there is no rule that said 3 tires off was an incomplete (even tho it was a grey area). Here I was expecting to see some light at the end of the tunnel and only got more dissapointed with this sport.
I started watching this sport in 2011 in hopes the sport would be as big as F1, IMSA, and hoping some day the cars and judging would be closer to fair as years went by. I stopped watching FD for this exact reason and I stop bothering watching the BS. Until they fix the sport, I'll stick to F1
His lead run was still worse then odi's even before he hit him, so he kinda saved him but the 3 wheels off thing fucked it up :) just imagine adam finishing his lead run, odi has a complete chase and a clean lead run adam would have only had an okay lead run and "incomplete or bad chase, so he would lose instantly if odi wouldnt crash into him, dont blame the fault on odi, he gave him a chance to win with that crash but the judges are dumb
@@woolbus4319 Adams's lead wasn't incomplete. His chase run was, so therefore when the judges judged lead runs Odi was much cleaner and Odi was more deep in the zones and touch and go, also Odi had a better line. If you listened to what the announcers said you would have heard this. but if you choose to be bais then stay mad and humble your self
@@SpaceRanger187 Yeah most of the time its pretty good, but sometimes its like WTF are these judges doing?! The mistake is so obvious that anyone with eyes and a brain could see it
One of the many reasons I could never get back to watching full FD events after watching DrifmastersEU, the systems they use in the latter championship are just so much more fair to judges and competitors alike
Even with both incompletes in the chase, the contact caused you to not be able to finish your lead run even if it was only 20 feet from the finish line. The judges explanation "if Adam would have been able to finish his lead run it still wouldn't have been as good as Odi" was bullshit in my opinion.
Sort of...that was basicly the shut down so they used the previous part of the run. That's not the issue. 2 other competitors hit the same way Adam did but didnt get a 3 tire off call. Really I dont see how he could be 3 tires when the pylon contacted the door not the rear corner behind the wheel.
Exactly, Adams's lead was technically incomplete from being hit. So how the hell do they justify using a not at fault incomplete lead against a complete lead...
It has nothing to do with Adams lead being incomplete, it was more so Adam didn’t get out to the first touch and go, so Odi’s lead was better. I don’t think Adam’s chase should’ve been an incomplete therefore he should’ve won, but that’s the world of judged sports. 🤷🏻
@@smurfvolvo not what I meant, we can all see that Odi had the better lead run. That shouldn't matter after odi hits Adam not allowing him to stay in drift through the finish line.
Shoutout to Mike! His editing skills are just so amazing. The slowmo shots in the burnout pit and the cars touching the wall were 10/10. Keep up the amazing work!
Has been for awhile. Look at how much they gave forsberg a couple years ago at osw, dude was literally parking his car in the middle of a run, and they gave him the win.
@@Matty.Hill_87 I don’t think it’s that at all the judges want to put the best show possible forward and they know the best drivers up top will do that, whenever one of the lower drivers gets to the top 8 they make a major mistake but the big issue is this is because the judges never let the lower competitors get higher so they don’t have enough practice with the top end competition and get psyched out because of lack of experience at top level competition it’s a vicious circle. Having bullshit sponsor politics happen to me in Australia I know exactly how it feels. You need to be a really kick arse driver and show some consistent performance for the judges to start to let you have some ‘favouritism’ like Dylan Hughes is doing atm. Or you’re right and they think more about putting the more big sponsor cars forward rather than the true winnner and because they do that those drivers are the good ones because they get all the top level experience. Either way I do feel a lot of bias in the judging decisions, I think the judges have a lot of pressure and a lot of hard calls to make but the reason they make the calls they do is have good intention behind them they think a lot about why the cars got into the position they are, alas they seem to make these calls fit what they want to be the case to put the top drivers through more often than seems right. Judging and it’s foibles and the comp politics is what got me to leave the competitive scene in Australia in the end, at least it ruined the love for me and there is no money in just drifting for fun. Lack of money, debt and many other factors have kept me away from driving ever since. I still really miss it sometimes though.
Only problem is thats way more expensive cause its a lot of Europe tracks so traveling cost would be crazy and i think adams already said fd is pretty expensive for him to run
Some of the best driving I’ve seen you put down during this practice sesh. Can tell you were having fun, shows in your driving. Way to go man. Really growing your skills and it’s starting to show when you let yourself have a lil fun!
so glad i live 10 miles away from downtown LB, i never knew there was gonna be the lbgp and formula drift until you made a vid on it. great content dude!
@@lostallgravity sadly yeah. I'm only watching fd for Adam. Its been biased for years which is why I stay away from it. If it wasn't for Adam in it I wouldn't bother since I know who will be top 4 each event.
@@vSpr3dator yeah unfortunately drifting as a professional sport is just significantly more difficult to get people interested than normal circuit or circle track racing.
@@penamena5238 agree! And the questionable judging isn't helping. All a sponsor thing. Other drivers will drive worse and get the win. This is the first fd season I watched all because of Adam and the judging is killing him and the sport.
How did he get the win when he slammed into you only real mistake you had was last inside clip cone I think fd needs to switch to the drift shifters points system with sensors in all zones measuring proximity and angle to calculate a score
Besides the controversy, the video espiy in the beginning seemed like a such a vibe, mucking around long beach with your friends, BMX'ing around, Cruising around in your cars
The lead runs can not be judged the same because Odi hit you! It’s absolute BS that it wasn’t called OMT. Judging at these events is getting worse every event.
Great driving Adam! Shame it wasn't called as at least a one more time but on the plus side you looked way more confident and in touch with your car and driving than ever so keep up the good work!
How tf does Dai not get an incomplete but you do when you both went off in the same area? FD judging is so inconsistent. I was there, and I personally think it should of been a OMT kinda wack. They need to be better at being consistent when it comes to calls.
The dumbass judges called it a Incomplete run for Adam cause he went 3 wheels off, Dai also went 3 wheels off but it was called as 2 wheels making it a complete run. Odi got a incomplete Chase making it have to judge on both of their Lead runs. Odi had a better run but Adam had a terrible run but a hit. Should’ve called it as OMT but the judges are just mega idiots.
I’m starting to notice a trend with you Adam, you let your nerves get the best of you every time. We know you’re an amazing driver, but just try to go out there and have some fun! Stop thinking “I’m out here with the big dogs and they are gonna bite me” or whatever. Just have fun like you do on the practice runs!
@@J0K3R_the_Nerd it annoys everyone. That's why the same top 4 make it each event and they can't keep consistent competition since people get tired of the unfair judging. Fd is killing itself
I feel like i need to see Adam in a mustang for fd, that are so competitive and a proven chassis vs Adams struggle with the s15 Would be even cooler if the barra was in the drift car
I comment this all the time & I don't care. You one of the cleanest, if not the cleanest rides on the FD tour. Absolutely beautiful machine, a freakin work of art. Props to the Lzmfg team!🔥💪💰
Absolute honor meeting you at Long Beach I was sitting at that final corner. Not only did your third wheel not go off but the lead runs aren’t comparable either cause odi caused a collision not just contact. But you have a great attitude about it and it’s one of the reasons why you’re a great driver. Keep up the great work!
Love how our boy's car is always front and center on any advertisments/media posts but they shaft him whenever they have the chance.. lets go grip racing soon plz
You made me a fan of drifting at 59yo, coming from the drag racing world where the clock determines the winner. I understand "hitting the marks" in the zones, clips, etc., but the "judging" aspect reminds me a lot of figure skating and gymnastics, sometimes they love you... sometimes they don't. Still, love to watch you drive, your attitude and your videos, especially when you show the "footwork" involved.
Good to know tho, if your opponent incompletes while chasing you, you can hit him and make him spin in his lead so theres 2 more incompletes and since you have the only full run, you get the win :) Should have been a OMT all the way, i dont think a single person would have complained about that
Lol Adams lead was already not as good way before odi made contact. The only thing that would have saved him is if they had decided he was 2 wheels off in his chase instead of 3. Odi making contact only helped him.
@@downsouthdrift3158 well, it helped Adam in the sense that he should have won after the contact, but it didn't help him in the sense that the judges still decided against him
I used to watch you when you first started making videos and I haven’t really watched since then but it’s absolutely insane to see how far you’ve come since then.
This track is the most enjoyable fd track to watch imo, that's partailly due to the changes of grip because i find it interesting to see how different drivers handle grip loss/gain, and also allows for a avriety of different car setups to do better in one section and worse in the other
Can they judge on lead vs lead when you spun before the finish line. That’s like comparing lap times when one guy has done half a lap and the other guy has a full lap. Of course the guy with half a lap is faster. Just doesn’t work
It’s crazy to think about watching your BMX tutorial videos to coming here, been watching since 2014 and I can honestly say to see how far you’ve come is insane. If I saw you driving through the streets with the rest of the fr roster, I would go absolutely nuts!
In my opinion it will just continue happening. It needs to be called out inside the race, and not after when cameras are off, and FD can just flip you off lol. Again, my opinion.
Ye problem is that now its become the old guard vs the new guard, the older guys hate people that like LZ (they find us, annoying, and in some cases they are correct, LZ has a lot of younger fans that can be pretty grating at times), and we hate them for not accepting us.... And then theres people like me who started off watching LZ and have since branched out but still enjoy watching FD and supporting the person that got us into drifting....
@@griffins750 yeh pretty much the old vs new situation. im pretty sure if anything LZ been getting mroe hate after his very first round in fd as a pro. since then it just excalated. even aparently them 'none toxic' fd fans dont approve texas where adam got into top 4. aparently thats nothing but thats like quite a big achievement for a rookie in the pro class
This is why FD is so frowned upon by the grassroots scene. Any “pro” sport ultimately becomes a cash grab, biased circus for spectators instead of just driving and sending it with the boys… I’ll never understand FD and I don’t want to. I do feel for Adam tho, and I wish they had called it without playing favorites
@@batuhankaraman1714 well yea respectfully, thats bullshit hahah. How could one win if he spun, it should have been a OMT bc of all things that happend in their battle, these judges have been very wishy washy this season and especially this event, pure and utterly bullshit lately
Made it in the video! :) The parade was hilarious, my mom was out infront trying to get good video for my nephew and was so confused by all the people on bikes. I just laughed and said they're with the lead drift car. For your first time on the track I think you did awesome! It was very unfortunate that the judges were not paying as much attention to all the details as they should be.. A lot of rough calls imo. But I'm glad Vaughn came over to confirm with you about their knowledge of the ruling, it's ridiculous the "new" rules aren't mentioned every event just so they're known to all the drivers/spotters. Also Mike, great footage as always! It was very nice to meet you, thanks for the picture! Hope you get some chill time at some point hah!
Your a daily inspiration Adam! Helping me Follow my dreams with Cars. Also very happy for you and what you’ve accomplished and gained for yourself ie your career or business or relationships. Fricken rad keep it up!
That’s BS, Odi caused you to DNF on your lead run since he caused you to straighten so they shouldn’t base the win off of comparing lead runs since Odi made your lead a 0
I feel like the content that’s being produced it flawless. Love the style of shooting and editing. Best of all it looks like Adam and the team are having a ball while doing it.
Make sure your crew is keeping notes on all these other drivers. How they enter, tactics, apparent car speed etc. Know thigh enemy... Or something like that
Was watching the online count of those watching drop from 17k+ to little over 13k in 5mins. Also dislikes went from 72 to 130 in this time. I call it a OMT.
Controversy aside, seems like you are always struggling to keep up with the other cars and it's killing your runs. You are putting in less angle to play catch up and killing your scores. Might be time to rethink that chassis and engine combo. It just doesn't seem very competitive compared to the other cars.
Personally I think it’s all in the setup, track experience, and commitment to each run. James deane was a 3x champ in the same chassis and similar engine setup and the cars haven’t changed much since then. The lack of angle and getting gapped is definitely a huge part of it though. If he went to a true wisefab rear end like how James did I feel like some of his problems would definitely go away istead if trying something custom like right now
@@cameronprescott8546 there's nothing wrong with the car It can easily keep up to any car in FD Right Now IF DRIVEN ON THE RIGHT LINE something I don't see Adam most likely doing until next year or so. Awesome build but it just needs to be driven with commitment and confidence in knowing how the car will react in certain situations. The 9200rpm limiter sounds godly too hopefully next year we'll see him driving with aggressive without hitting a wall
@@NaokiWilliamsfrl yeah that’s kind of included in commitment, but yeah I see what ur saying. When switching to the wisefab rear end and finding a combo that works, it’s more adjustable and better suited to what he needs than the z32 knuckle on parts shop max arms. Which would help him have more control over how grippy his car is. That’s a big reason why he cant stay on the line rn
Love that Vaughn isn't afraid to say exactly what he thinks to back up a competitor.
lol, when you think about the strategy, it makes sense. Adam winning would have been an absolute massive advantage for Vaugn and Denofa for Odi to be knocked out in 32, he ended up winning the round.
@@SlevinCCX in Adam’s famous words “lost to the guy that won it all, technically i got second ”
@@SlevinCCX Eh, Odi is pretty far back even after winning. I doubt that entered their thinking.
vaughn is the man
@@nicknelson4475 Thats not the point, odi could have taken out chelsea ruining the championship shot for him (even tho vaughn did it anyway)
Massive respect to Vaughn. He is like the dad of fd that wants everyone to get fair calls.
VGJ is the biggest crybaby of FD
@@herewegoagain7403 lol exactly
No he is not😂😂😂
Good guy Vaughn
6:26 Shoutout to the cop who flipped on the hazards that was a sick shot. 10/10
Ye that was awesome gotta love cops like that
Vaughn just out here making sure everyones having fun and following the rules. Track dad
🤣🤣 so true too
I don’t understand how the battle before Adam on the last turn someone went way on the inside hitting that pylon, but Adam not even going as bad gets an incomplete lmao. Also the battle before was very similar and they did one more time... judges clearly pickin favorites.
Been that way in FD for a long long time. Hasn't changed yet
this why i just watch here not the broadcast
@@derekwilliams5689 I usually just do the same lol. I tuned into the broadcast at the right time though and got to watch that run before adam. And when I saw adams run after and how the judges judged it I was thoroughly confused
@@derekwilliams5689 Yeah I’ve learnt my lesson now I’ve watched my last Broadcast live
All they care about are the clicks they get from Adam.
It still blows my mind that this all started with a bike and a dream. Glad to play a part, keep it up Adam, AND Collete, can't wait to see you destroy competition!
Absolutely robbed by the fanboy judges. Should've been a OMT. Questionable calls all season mate. Keep doing what you do! Love your work.
I hated how much they were talking about hitting the last inside clip literally everyone has been destroying it for years
Yeah, i was watching the stream thinking damn, probably OMT or the win for Adam.
I was amazed when all 3 judges chose for Odi.
Edit: I understand the judges logic, but Adams incomplete is really questionable.
They hype him up when they talk but I feel as if they cant let him have all the glory quite yet.
Lz fanboy upset at Fd fanboy 😂
🤦🤦🤦🤦
Can we all just agree that the FD judges 110% have something against Adam at this point!?
Facts bro 😒😒😒😒
Not just Adam. Some of the drivers that are not as consistent (Adam, Rad Dan, Kyle Mohan, Matsuyama ect.) get tougher judging when they go up against a top 4 sort of guy in 32. Obviously FD doesnt want someone randomly going beast mode and disrupting the championship points leaders in 32, so anyone facing Odi\Chelsea\Osbo\Field has to be so perfect there's no way the judges could vote against them.
Well said
No.
Who are the judges?
28:19 wait wait wait, so magicly there was a rule change since the first round and not a single driver knew about it? We are on round 7.. they have driver meetings for what? Even Vaughn who has been competing in FD for 15 years was confused with that call, and said there is no rule that said 3 tires off was an incomplete (even tho it was a grey area). Here I was expecting to see some light at the end of the tunnel and only got more dissapointed with this sport.
That's not fair
Wwe is a sport too
FD is not the whole sport, be dissapointed with FD
No magic rule change. TRay got knocked out of klutch kickers last year on the same call.
I started watching this sport in 2011 in hopes the sport would be as big as F1, IMSA, and hoping some day the cars and judging would be closer to fair as years went by. I stopped watching FD for this exact reason and I stop bothering watching the BS. Until they fix the sport, I'll stick to F1
I just love how they pinned the crash on Adamn instead of Odi, the one who caused it.
Except they didn’t… they judged lead for lead since Odi and Adam got incompletes in the chase.
@@KakiiYT yeah but adams lead is incomplete because of odi
@@woolbus4319 Exactly.
His lead run was still worse then odi's even before he hit him, so he kinda saved him but the 3 wheels off thing fucked it up :) just imagine adam finishing his lead run, odi has a complete chase and a clean lead run adam would have only had an okay lead run and "incomplete or bad chase, so he would lose instantly if odi wouldnt crash into him, dont blame the fault on odi, he gave him a chance to win with that crash but the judges are dumb
@@woolbus4319 Adams's lead wasn't incomplete. His chase run was, so therefore when the judges judged lead runs Odi was much cleaner and Odi was more deep in the zones and touch and go, also Odi had a better line. If you listened to what the announcers said you would have heard this. but if you choose to be bais then stay mad and humble your self
They definitely made several questionable calls this weekend, AND the scoring for qualifying was WILDLY inconsistent
how was that not a omt when he got door checked..I feel like FD is a fashion show and who you know..
@@SpaceRanger187 Yeah most of the time its pretty good, but sometimes its like WTF are these judges doing?! The mistake is so obvious that anyone with eyes and a brain could see it
That weekend had way to many “????? Hu???” Moments on judging calls
Its name has Formula in it. Like Formula 1 and other the rules and calls always really frickin weird
One of the many reasons I could never get back to watching full FD events after watching DrifmastersEU, the systems they use in the latter championship are just so much more fair to judges and competitors alike
17:41 made me smile seeing him, remember him always making me laugh back in the og videos
Even with both incompletes in the chase, the contact caused you to not be able to finish your lead run even if it was only 20 feet from the finish line. The judges explanation "if Adam would have been able to finish his lead run it still wouldn't have been as good as Odi" was bullshit in my opinion.
Sort of...that was basicly the shut down so they used the previous part of the run. That's not the issue. 2 other competitors hit the same way Adam did but didnt get a 3 tire off call. Really I dont see how he could be 3 tires when the pylon contacted the door not the rear corner behind the wheel.
Exactly, Adams's lead was technically incomplete from being hit. So how the hell do they justify using a not at fault incomplete lead against a complete lead...
It has nothing to do with Adams lead being incomplete, it was more so Adam didn’t get out to the first touch and go, so Odi’s lead was better. I don’t think Adam’s chase should’ve been an incomplete therefore he should’ve won, but that’s the world of judged sports. 🤷🏻
Are you blind? Odis lead was ten times better all the way. Adam was half a car from the walls.
@@smurfvolvo not what I meant, we can all see that Odi had the better lead run. That shouldn't matter after odi hits Adam not allowing him to stay in drift through the finish line.
Shoutout to Mike! His editing skills are just so amazing. The slowmo shots in the burnout pit and the cars touching the wall were 10/10. Keep up the amazing work!
It’s always the same people going rounds regardless of who throws down the best runs, the judging is biased as hell
Has been for awhile. Look at how much they gave forsberg a couple years ago at osw, dude was literally parking his car in the middle of a run, and they gave him the win.
I think it's down to the big money sponsors paying to get their drivers favourable treatment
@@Matty.Hill_87 I don’t think it’s that at all the judges want to put the best show possible forward and they know the best drivers up top will do that, whenever one of the lower drivers gets to the top 8 they make a major mistake but the big issue is this is because the judges never let the lower competitors get higher so they don’t have enough practice with the top end competition and get psyched out because of lack of experience at top level competition it’s a vicious circle. Having bullshit sponsor politics happen to me in Australia I know exactly how it feels. You need to be a really kick arse driver and show some consistent performance for the judges to start to let you have some ‘favouritism’ like Dylan Hughes is doing atm.
Or you’re right and they think more about putting the more big sponsor cars forward rather than the true winnner and because they do that those drivers are the good ones because they get all the top level experience.
Either way I do feel a lot of bias in the judging decisions, I think the judges have a lot of pressure and a lot of hard calls to make but the reason they make the calls they do is have good intention behind them they think a lot about why the cars got into the position they are, alas they seem to make these calls fit what they want to be the case to put the top drivers through more often than seems right. Judging and it’s foibles and the comp politics is what got me to leave the competitive scene in Australia in the end, at least it ruined the love for me and there is no money in just drifting for fun. Lack of money, debt and many other factors have kept me away from driving ever since. I still really miss it sometimes though.
That’s one of the reasons not a lot of ppl like fd it’s a judged sport and the judges can be corrupt sometimes
Honestly they pick the same people every time
Definitely should have been a OMT homie... at least you got some good practice in on a very difficult track. Knowledge and progression my dude🤙
Still don't understand how basically the same thing happened to Dai and Ken but they got a OMT and in your case Odi magically won
100%
Should have been a OMT call, but you know, Noise ordinance time crunch.... FD sucks
Big sponsors would be your answer
Fd usa sucks. Japan isn't bias
Maybe they felt guilty for fucking over Odi so many other times with shit calls they thought they owed him one.
Should join the FiA league with Dean, Piotr, and Bluss, it'll be way more fair 🤣
Only problem is thats way more expensive cause its a lot of Europe tracks so traveling cost would be crazy and i think adams already said fd is pretty expensive for him to run
And jack shanahan, europe best track ever.
Michael Massi prob hired these judges😂
Will we get honest judges? probably the same time we get an HD stream.
This entire sport organization is run by incompetent morons, IDK why anyone even watches or cares.
Thats a youtube issue though, all youtube streams are trash compared to other streaming sites.
@@Endslikecrazy HUH? Budz, UA-cam has way more support for quality than Twitch and streams look hella better..
Honest judges: AI with ton of scanners around each clipping points that can count what angle,speed etc
@@jonathonmcrae5671 you need your eyes checked then cause this is a very well known thing with youtube my man.
Some of the best driving I’ve seen you put down during this practice sesh. Can tell you were having fun, shows in your driving. Way to go man. Really growing your skills and it’s starting to show when you let yourself have a lil fun!
sadly that's one of the reasons I believe Wang left/ took a break from FD, because of calls like this
Without a doubt
He actually took a break to be a dad. FD takes up so much of your time and being a dad is what he wanted to do. He’s coming back next season
Waiting for daddy denofa to put out his analysis vid of long beach 🤓🍿
I gotta say , the underglow at night looks good on all the cars .... 2003 vibes hitting hard
so glad i live 10 miles away from downtown LB, i never knew there was gonna be the lbgp and formula drift until you made a vid on it. great content dude!
This is what’s killing FD right here. Judges who play favorites every race, and they continue to push away their viewers more and more.
What viewers?
@@lostallgravity lol exactly
@@lostallgravity sadly yeah. I'm only watching fd for Adam. Its been biased for years which is why I stay away from it. If it wasn't for Adam in it I wouldn't bother since I know who will be top 4 each event.
@@vSpr3dator yeah unfortunately drifting as a professional sport is just significantly more difficult to get people interested than normal circuit or circle track racing.
@@penamena5238 agree! And the questionable judging isn't helping. All a sponsor thing. Other drivers will drive worse and get the win. This is the first fd season I watched all because of Adam and the judging is killing him and the sport.
Love from Malawi, Africa. The parade was outstanding!
How did he get the win when he slammed into you only real mistake you had was last inside clip cone I think fd needs to switch to the drift shifters points system with sensors in all zones measuring proximity and angle to calculate a score
I personally like the way RDS runs things best, and Drift Masters.
Yeah we have the technology
I like the system from RDS and DMEC, they show how deep they filled in the zones and also the speed of the cars, all on screen for the spectators.
Exactly same as how d1gp does it
@@driftlife28 now if we could just add the live braking and throttle inputs on screen like other professional racing series.
Besides the controversy, the video espiy in the beginning seemed like a such a vibe, mucking around long beach with your friends, BMX'ing around, Cruising around in your cars
The lead runs can not be judged the same because Odi hit you! It’s absolute BS that it wasn’t called OMT. Judging at these events is getting worse every event.
Yea he also missed a gear and drove different than he ever did in that last turn and got hit. Tough call
Maybe if LZ's lead would've been better it would be a clean OMT.
Great driving Adam! Shame it wasn't called as at least a one more time but on the plus side you looked way more confident and in touch with your car and driving than ever so keep up the good work!
In my opinion i think the big sponsors are paying for their drivers to advance rounds and potentially getting podium. It’s starting to become obvious
Yup, spot on.
This is for sure the case. Its always the same 6 ish people that go through top 12 no matter how shitty their runs are
And look at the big brands they are representing. 👀 🤷🏼♂️
Been goin on since FD started. I know OLD SCHOOL FD guys and they say the same thing
Watch how they specify some of the sponsored stuff on Odi's car but they do not on Adam's car at the beginning of their first run
Robbed 😂very mature response to the judges verdict though Adam well done 👍
Time to tighten up that rule book right now and get some new judges, time for a refresh
I have to say your sportsmanship should be commended Adam congratulations either way your killing it !!!
How tf does Dai not get an incomplete but you do when you both went off in the same area? FD judging is so inconsistent. I was there, and I personally think it should of been a OMT kinda wack. They need to be better at being consistent when it comes to calls.
The dumbass judges called it a Incomplete run for Adam cause he went 3 wheels off, Dai also went 3 wheels off but it was called as 2 wheels making it a complete run. Odi got a incomplete Chase making it have to judge on both of their Lead runs. Odi had a better run but Adam had a terrible run but a hit. Should’ve called it as OMT but the judges are just mega idiots.
Gushi should have got the win with Dai getting an incomplete, and LZ should have gotten a OMT.
yeah been watching all the fd events since adam got in it and man, these guys are some of the most inconsistent mofos ever.
this is why i dont watch FD judges are crap and commentators are cringey
FD is rigged in a way they’ll take advantage a situation were they favor who they want in championship
I’m starting to notice a trend with you Adam, you let your nerves get the best of you every time. We know you’re an amazing driver, but just try to go out there and have some fun!
Stop thinking “I’m out here with the big dogs and they are gonna bite me” or whatever. Just have fun like you do on the practice runs!
You can tell he’s really pissed but he’s being a good sport about it
Fd judging has been worse each season. Rhys Millen got hosed a lot a decade ago also.
@@vSpr3dator that really annoys me
@@J0K3R_the_Nerd it annoys everyone. That's why the same top 4 make it each event and they can't keep consistent competition since people get tired of the unfair judging. Fd is killing itself
I feel like i need to see Adam in a mustang for fd, that are so competitive and a proven chassis vs Adams struggle with the s15
Would be even cooler if the barra was in the drift car
This hands down is should’ve been a OMT man.
Not Even that. Adam explains that he should technically get the win
at least a omt. should’ve won tho
I comment this all the time & I don't care. You one of the cleanest, if not the cleanest rides on the FD tour. Absolutely beautiful machine, a freakin work of art. Props to the Lzmfg team!🔥💪💰
It was sick getting to meet you and the team! Had a great time in Long Beach, thanks for taking the time to show love to all the fans after the event!
Absolute honor meeting you at Long Beach I was sitting at that final corner. Not only did your third wheel not go off but the lead runs aren’t comparable either cause odi caused a collision not just contact. But you have a great attitude about it and it’s one of the reasons why you’re a great driver. Keep up the great work!
Love how our boy's car is always front and center on any advertisments/media posts but they shaft him whenever they have the chance.. lets go grip racing soon plz
You made me a fan of drifting at 59yo, coming from the drag racing world where the clock determines the winner. I understand "hitting the marks" in the zones, clips, etc., but the "judging" aspect reminds me a lot of figure skating and gymnastics, sometimes they love you... sometimes they don't. Still, love to watch you drive, your attitude and your videos, especially when you show the "footwork" involved.
Good to know tho, if your opponent incompletes while chasing you, you can hit him and make him spin in his lead so theres 2 more incompletes and since you have the only full run, you get the win :)
Should have been a OMT all the way, i dont think a single person would have complained about that
You found a loophole, pretty sad though
Yeah. Total bullshit judging
Lol Adams lead was already not as good way before odi made contact. The only thing that would have saved him is if they had decided he was 2 wheels off in his chase instead of 3. Odi making contact only helped him.
@@downsouthdrift3158 well, it helped Adam in the sense that he should have won after the contact, but it didn't help him in the sense that the judges still decided against him
@@Ahaggah Adam also had big angle going tru the inner clip and had lost momentum
Doing a parade around long beach organized by FD FOR THE EVENT is the most insane thing I've seen from this channel, thats so fucking dope dude.
I feel bad for the people who never got to experience bert
The og johan
Feed Bert
I used to watch you when you first started making videos and I haven’t really watched since then but it’s absolutely insane to see how far you’ve come since then.
It's the fact they say 3 wheels off just like Dai yet you get a different result, then Odi gets an incomplete chase. Just crazy honestly.
Man, the bar spin with cop lights is dope!
Great event. Just so you know the crowd wasn't happy with them not putting you through to top 16
Always glad to see you back on a bike! Bogus call too.. Keep up the hard work LZ team!!!
Gotta love seeing Bert in the videos once in awhile!
Good to see the OG bmx content again
This track is the most enjoyable fd track to watch imo, that's partailly due to the changes of grip because i find it interesting to see how different drivers handle grip loss/gain, and also allows for a avriety of different car setups to do better in one section and worse in the other
This was probably my favorite FD video. Driving was sick and Mike killed the recording and edit. 10/10
Can they judge on lead vs lead when you spun before the finish line.
That’s like comparing lap times when one guy has done half a lap and the other guy has a full lap. Of course the guy with half a lap is faster. Just doesn’t work
I have never realized that the burnout box was a time controlled thing I thought the drivers just warmed up their tires to they seemed fit lol
Watching this while I wait for my car to warm up on my way to work lmao
Have a good day at work. I just got off
It’s crazy to think about watching your BMX tutorial videos to coming here, been watching since 2014 and I can honestly say to see how far you’ve come is insane. If I saw you driving through the streets with the rest of the fr roster, I would go absolutely nuts!
U did a good job ( publicly ) handing this disappointment. Leave it at the tract and come back next yr to get ur revenge. Keep doin u.
I think Irwindale is after this.
In my opinion it will just continue happening. It needs to be called out inside the race, and not after when cameras are off, and FD can just flip you off lol. Again, my opinion.
I find the insight into what actually goes into driving professionally super interesting! Thanks team
You bring half the fans to FD this was expected.
Ye problem is that now its become the old guard vs the new guard, the older guys hate people that like LZ (they find us, annoying, and in some cases they are correct, LZ has a lot of younger fans that can be pretty grating at times), and we hate them for not accepting us.... And then theres people like me who started off watching LZ and have since branched out but still enjoy watching FD and supporting the person that got us into drifting....
@@griffins750 yeh pretty much the old vs new situation. im pretty sure if anything LZ been getting mroe hate after his very first round in fd as a pro. since then it just excalated. even aparently them 'none toxic' fd fans dont approve texas where adam got into top 4. aparently thats nothing but thats like quite a big achievement for a rookie in the pro class
This is why FD is so frowned upon by the grassroots scene. Any “pro” sport ultimately becomes a cash grab, biased circus for spectators instead of just driving and sending it with the boys… I’ll never understand FD and I don’t want to. I do feel for Adam tho, and I wish they had called it without playing favorites
How can they compare the lead runs when your lead run was basically incompleted by the chase driver?
Logic doesn't apply.
@@rccoul clearly not, a OMT was literally the only logical thing in that situation but these judges are something else
Even if adam had completed that run and odi spun, odi would still win - says the judges
@@batuhankaraman1714 well yea respectfully, thats bullshit hahah. How could one win if he spun, it should have been a OMT bc of all things that happend in their battle, these judges have been very wishy washy this season and especially this event, pure and utterly bullshit lately
@@Ddlup yeah Adam's lead run is incomplete. They compare odis lead run with an incomplete run. Sad
I need a poster of the thumbnail photo so bad. Him sideways there is so sick and why I love watching drifting!
I remember when started bmxing and was watching your how to barspin lol beautiful to see you come this far!
it's actually insane tho
Made it in the video! :) The parade was hilarious, my mom was out infront trying to get good video for my nephew and was so confused by all the people on bikes. I just laughed and said they're with the lead drift car.
For your first time on the track I think you did awesome! It was very unfortunate that the judges were not paying as much attention to all the details as they should be.. A lot of rough calls imo. But I'm glad Vaughn came over to confirm with you about their knowledge of the ruling, it's ridiculous the "new" rules aren't mentioned every event just so they're known to all the drivers/spotters.
Also Mike, great footage as always! It was very nice to meet you, thanks for the picture! Hope you get some chill time at some point hah!
“WE LOVE U ADAM”
Also screw the guy that stole my tshirt when Adam threw it to me
Tough break LZ. The content you gave us was awesome though and watching you hang with your homies and ride bikes never gets old
Been waiting for this video wanna hear it from ur side
The Cinematic shots were greattt🤤 your videos give me a major boost in serotonin. Also glad to see Adam happy doing his thing
Can you program the under glow to match the wrap?
Matt’s little cheeky tip in was mad 🔥
Your a daily inspiration Adam! Helping me Follow my dreams with Cars. Also very happy for you and what you’ve accomplished and gained for yourself ie your career or business or relationships. Fricken rad keep it up!
Makes me so happy that Adam is back into bmx now
I love the spirit of adam tho “it would be a shit way to win but cool to keep on driving”
man on the bike said "ill see you when that battery's dead" I died
I think Adam needs to get to the finals and that will give him confidence
adam it was so dope to meet you! had a great time at fdlb
That’s BS, Odi caused you to DNF on your lead run since he caused you to straighten so they shouldn’t base the win off of comparing lead runs since Odi made your lead a 0
LOVE THE FOOTCAM!
And the footwork!
Make a playlist with your music! 🔥
He has playlist LZ radio on Spotify
@@eddyg7477 Appreciate that 💪🏽
I feel like the content that’s being produced it flawless. Love the style of shooting and editing. Best of all it looks like Adam and the team are having a ball while doing it.
Keep pushing Adam, many more competitions out there also, where the judges don’t judge like this sh*t. (Excuse my language kids).
Not gonna lie… the fact that you grub on Funyuns mad me a life time subscriber.
Great job regardless Lz it’s tough getting odi in top 32
Make sure your crew is keeping notes on all these other drivers. How they enter, tactics, apparent car speed etc.
Know thigh enemy... Or something like that
Was watching the online count of those watching drop from 17k+ to little over 13k in 5mins. Also dislikes went from 72 to 130 in this time. I call it a OMT.
That oracle lighting viper is my favorite FD car adams is next but it’s crazy to see a viper out there with the rest those cars
The parade is so cool. Something like that would never fly in the EU. Love to see it though
Bro that practice run after rad Dan was nuts...and look at the angle Dan had wen he followed...that was sick
Why do they hold LZ accountable for every little mistake, compared to other og drivers just goes to show how favoritism plays a part in Formula Drift
Changing rules during week of competition shouldn’t be aloud IMO. But you killed it and content is amazing as always
Controversy aside, seems like you are always struggling to keep up with the other cars and it's killing your runs. You are putting in less angle to play catch up and killing your scores. Might be time to rethink that chassis and engine combo. It just doesn't seem very competitive compared to the other cars.
Personally I think it’s all in the setup, track experience, and commitment to each run. James deane was a 3x champ in the same chassis and similar engine setup and the cars haven’t changed much since then. The lack of angle and getting gapped is definitely a huge part of it though. If he went to a true wisefab rear end like how James did I feel like some of his problems would definitely go away istead if trying something custom like right now
@@cameronprescott8546 there's nothing wrong with the car It can easily keep up to any car in FD Right Now IF DRIVEN ON THE RIGHT LINE something I don't see Adam most likely doing until next year or so. Awesome build but it just needs to be driven with commitment and confidence in knowing how the car will react in certain situations. The 9200rpm limiter sounds godly too hopefully next year we'll see him driving with aggressive without hitting a wall
@@NaokiWilliamsfrl yeah that’s kind of included in commitment, but yeah I see what ur saying. When switching to the wisefab rear end and finding a combo that works, it’s more adjustable and better suited to what he needs than the z32 knuckle on parts shop max arms. Which would help him have more control over how grippy his car is. That’s a big reason why he cant stay on the line rn
Dang man that sucks you were really rocking this track! Looks like it was a good weekend though glad y'all had fun!
Somthing about pro drift cars with underglow... 🔥
So proud of you bro! Cant wait to watch you in IRWINDALE!!!!!
Not the first time Adams been robbed of a win or omt. Everything is fixed these days, such a shame.
2022 Year of the Podium!
Keep killing it!