WIKITONGUES: Steffi speaking Bavarian

This video was recorded by Daniel Bogre Udell in the United Kingdom and features Bavarian speaker Steffi. Roughly 7,830,000 people spoke Bavarian in Austria as of 2012, and nearly twice as many spoke it internationally. Bavarian is a Bavarian-Austrian language of the Upper German group of West Germanic belonging to the Indo-European language family. It is spoken throughout Bavaria, much of Austria, and in parts of Italy and Switzerland. Within Bavarian exists a variety of dialects that are more or less mutually intelligible. The populations living in and around the Duchy of Bavaria constituted the first Bavarians in the early medieval period, then belonging to the southeastern region of the Kingdom of Germany. Bavarians are generally able to read and write in Standard German (Hochdeutsch), but some present difficulty when speaking it -- for this reason they sometimes refer to it as "Schriftdeutsch" or "written German," owing to its prevalence in mass media. The various dialects composing Bavarian have generated rich literature, poetry, and even Austropop music. Among its celebrated authors is Ludwig Thoma who wrote the popular work Lausbubengeschichten.
The speaker(s) featured herein have not explicitly agreed to distribute this video for reuse. For inquiries on licensing this video, please contact [e-mail].
Help us caption & translate this video!
amara.org/v/kpeu/

[@Wikitongues]

Caption and translate this video: amara.org/v/kpeu/
Help us record another language by supporting on Patreon: patreon.com/wikitongues
Submit your own video here: wikitongues.org/submit-a-video
Sign up for our monthly newsletter: eepurl.com/gr-ZQH

[@steffahn]

AFAIR there are people speaking Bavarian dialect where I have not a chance of understanding anything at all (I’m from northern Germany). This sample sounded in my opinion very close to standard German - at least I could understand 99% on the first go. I’m not an expert on Bavarian but from this experience I believe, this sample might not be genuine Bavarian dialect but mostly just a strong Bavarian accent. Funnily enough the speaker in their recording claiming the opposite, that she wouldn’t let her speech be influenced by standard German and proudly stays true to her dialect.
I’d be happy to receive feedback from other German speakers on my thoughts ^^

[@citolero]

I'm not a native speaker of German but have had some exposure to Bavarian (including from Rosenheim) and it doesn't sound anything like full-on dialect to me. For a start, shouldn't she say "Boarisch" rather than "Bayerisch"?

[@spairset]

I am from the northern Region of the Bavarian dialect continuum (Upper Palatinate) and I have to say that this is in fact not a real deep Bavarian dialect. It is in fact more of an accent. The kind of Bavarian you would hear in television to make it more understandable to the rest of the German population.

[@e36s50b30]

She is absolutely a native bavarian speaker although spoken in a way that it is understandable for most non bavarians.
You also need to understand that oberbayrisch (Rosenheim) is a lot easier to be understood than niederbayrisch or oberpfälzerisch.

[@rafaelvemmer8063]

I'm from North Germany to! Do you speak platt of Frisian? Or danish?

[@TheMichaelK]

I think, unfortunately, it’s hard for young dialect speakers to maintain a rather strong dialect in modern times with all this mass media in Standard German. Unfortunately in Germany dialects and local languages also are mostly a low prestige thing. This is not the case all around the world, and there are places where it is way more normal to also hear dialects and local languages on media. This also helps people training their brains from early on to understand different dialects more easily.
I grew up in Northern Germany, too, where these days most people only speak Standard German and have a hard time understanding other dialects. Those who grow up in the south with both, Standard German and a dialect usually are also able to understand other dialects more easily.
But I am also a speaker of Low Saxon (Low German) and can see it happen for those speakers too, that especially in the last decades the pronunciation of Low Saxon became more Germanized and many of the remaining young speakers are often not able anymore to speak a rather clean Low Saxon, but they have to put German words here and there because they lack Low Saxon vocabulary, or the use of some German words has become normal.

[@leornendeealdenglisc]

Some places in Bavaria where they still say Sunna for the sun. Sunna is Old High German!

[@Leo-uu8du]

In most areas of austria we still use old forms like "låmp" (lamb), "zimber" (room, but related to timber), "kampin" (to comb), "schnaiba" (snowing),...

[@Amlugalen]

In south west germany we speek a alemanic dialekt and we say (at least in my village, it variates) "sunne" and I still have a cookbook from my great great granma written in old high german lettering. Interesting how dialekts are realted and formed

Hahah yeah

[@linusfotograf]

I love hearing this as it takes me back to all my lovely visits to Bayern. Love hearing people speaking around me

[@alessandroaverchi7067]

I am not a German native and my German is only around B1. I understand suspiciously way too much in this video compared to other Bavarian speaking videos I have seen, and this makes me think this is to a large extent Standard German with a local accent and some regional vocabulary as other commentators here are saying

[@schneeweichenmunster8416]

No this is is Bavarian.

[@roblesoncrusoe9254]

no this is striaght bavarian. i am from rosenheim too. congrats

[@Larrypint]

Das geht deutlich extremer. Sie verstehe ich zu 95% als Berliner.

[@albertmerlew]

bist du aus Bayern?

[@mgpich]

Sie spricht auch nicht Bairisch, das ist eher ein umgangssprachlich gefärbtes Hochdeutsch.

[@Larrypint]

@@mgpich Umgangssprachlich gefärbte Hochdeutsch? Welcher Bürokrat hat sich diese Umschreibung wieder ausgedacht? Das ist schon bairisch, aber es geht eben noch deutlich ausgeprägter. Bist du denn Bayer?

[@mgpich]

@@Larrypint Naja es gibt einen Unterschied zwischen Dialekt und Umgangssprache, und was die Frau im Video macht, ist ein etwas "angepasster Dialekt", als ob sie versuchen würde, halbwegs schön zu reden. In Österreich würde das beinahe als Hochdeutsch durchgehen ;) Sie dürfen ja nicht zu sehr auf die Betonung achten, sondern auf die Aussprache der Wörter. Und das kommt sehr nahe ran an Hochdeutsch.
Ich selbst rede muttersprachlich Bairisch (Österreich) und Verlobte ist aus Niederbayern.

[@schneeweichenmunster8416]

​@@mgpich nein, ist es nicht

[@sC-vk8xi]

" Roughly 7,830,000 people spoke Bavarian in Austria"
austrian people wouldnt call it bavarian.......

[@horsti123654]

Well, that's sort of the dilemma.. Austria is bigger than (the Bavarian speaking part of) Bavaria, so Austrians will never self-identify as Bavarians. On the other hand, due to its history, Austria is associated with a political entity (which most of Bavaria was never a part of) rather than a cultural one, so Bavarians will never self-identify as Austrians. I like to use the term Austro-Bavarian, because it unambiguously covers both.

[@johnnwako2488]

Minus the dialect spoken in Vorarlberg, the Austrians are speaking Bavarian dialects!

[@NewportSolar]

Is Bavarian a different language than German? Or a regional dialect of German?
Thanks 🙏

[@henninger12]

A German Dialect.

[@la_lavanda]

Bavarian is as different from Standard German as Dutch is to English. What we call "dialects" of German are more like dozens of closely related, but separate languages. Someone from Hamburg will not understand someone from München, who will also not understand someone from Zürich. What we call "German" is actually just a standardized mix of all varieties of German that everyone uses to communicate with each other.
So, long story short, Bavarian IS a different language from "German".

[@hrs6480]

Yes it’s a different language branch even. Standard Bavarian is an own language while what was spoken here bavariangerman is a dialect. Real Bavarian uses all kind of stuff to express vowels æåéë

[@saszablaze1]

ooooh i love this.

[@TheMichaelK]

I think, unfortunately, it’s hard for young dialect speakers to maintain a rather strong dialect in modern times with all this mass media in Standard German. Unfortunately in Germany dialects and local languages also are mostly a low prestige thing. This is not the case all around the world, and there are places where it is way more normal to also hear dialects and local languages on media. This also helps people training their brains from early on to understand different dialects more easily.
I grew up in Northern Germany, where these days most people only speak Standard German and have a hard time understanding other dialects. Those who grow up in the south with both, Standard German and a dialect usually are also able to understand other dialects more easily.
But I am also a speaker of Low Saxon (Low German) and can see it happen for those speakers too, that especially in the last decades the pronunciation of Low Saxon became more Germanized and many of the remaining young speakers are often not able anymore to speak a rather clean Low Saxon, but they have to put German words here and there because they lack Low Saxon vocabulary, or the use of some German words has become normal.

[@ginismoja2459]

Could anyone make subtitles of what she's saying?

[@albertmerlew]

i could understand it kinda. i speak german

[@robt5818]

Sounds normal to me!

[@hrs6480]

she speaks bavariangerman what is a variant of bavarian and only a dialect, real Bavarian language sounds different

[@NorthernScreams]

If you sit down across from a Bavarian at a restraunt your food would get wet

[@hrs6480]

you can hear a beer garden from 2 kilometer

[@alfonsohshk8998]

I speak standard German and Swiss German and that lady does not sound very typical Bavarian when speaking.

[@denniswild7318]

She does sound very authentic to me

[@alfonsohshk8998]

@@denniswild7318 because you are Australian :D

[@denniswild7318]

Ich bin Berliner. Mit Australien habe ich nichts am Hut.

[@alechinshaw5990]

When you say Swiss German, are you referring to Alemanish?

[@alfonsohshk8998]

@@alechinshaw5990 Swiss German dialects are the diferrent ones spoken in Switzerland belonging to the Allemanish group of Germanic dialects

[@christianlingurar7085]

There is no spoken "Bavarian", you need to roughly quote the region it is being spoken in. That one is like "modern highlandish" Bavarian (quite close to German), while Carolin is speaking like "eastern lowlandish" (already further away from German). "Old-fashioned lowlandish" not even Carolin could fully understand... :-)

[@christianalexanderthegreat8941]

beautiful german

[@tetlamed]

So Bavarian is spoken on the right side of the mouth?

[@MajorCulturalDivide]

That was mean. But I was thinking the same thing.

[@milo4008]

das is aber kein richtiges bayrisch, ne. ich mein das versteht man ja ganz normal. bisschen blöde, dass bei diesen videos immer leute ausgewählt werden, die die sprache gar nicht richtig sprechen oder ausländer sind, die die sprache als "fremdsprache" sprachen. alles andere als authentisch.

[@nymsands]

I've seen you comment on more than one video with this same tired ass bullshit about authenticity and fake speakers. Who are you so mad at?

[@tomlee8404]

Es ist definitiv richtiges Bayrisch. So spricht man es typischerweise in Städten, wie z.B. Rosenheim. Es gibt allerdings tatsächlich Unterschiede innerhalb Bayerns. Je ländlicher die Region desto tiefer der Dialekt! Sie spricht nicht den tiefsten Dialekt, klingt aber trotzdem 100% bayrisch!

[@roblesoncrusoe9254]

das ist ganz normales bairisch. ich bin auch aus rosenheim und das ist voll im dialekt! natürlih gibt es gegenden wo der dialekt von haus stärker ist zb in niederbayern und bei uns gibt es auch leute die deutlich undeutlicher sprechen und alte begriffe verwenden, aber das ist definitiv kein verwaschenes weichgespültes bairisch oder so...ganz normal, was hast du gedacht???

[@seethrough_treeshrew]

Ja

[@robinsoncruz5405]

The best dialect….

[@hrs6480]

It’s an own language for long

[@BolnoyBratchny]

Is Bavarian a language or just a dialect? Please explain.

[@sC-vk8xi]

its a dialect

[@TheMichaelK]

It’s actually debated if it’s a dialect or a language. Same for Alemannic to which Swiss German belongs.

[@alechinshaw5990]

Honestly I like to consider it it’s language. TBF I can’t speak either so maybe I don’t have that much of a say in it, but when comparing it to standard German, it’s about as different to German as Scots is to English. It also has limited mutual intelligibility with standard German, while Danish Norwegian and Swedish are all mutually intelligible and yet are all classified as their own languages. I think Austro-Bavarian should be the official language of Austria, Bavaria, and South Tyrol.

[@BarbaraBarbara81010]

Bairisch sollte eine eigene Sprache sein

[@hrs6480]

Ist es schon seit langem. Nur die meisten Leute sprechen eine Variante der Sprache bairischdeutsch was damals die Preußen die nach Bayan gkima san gesprochen haben. Bairish ist von mehreren namenhaften Institutionen anerkannt wie Unesco, ISO. Manche kennen es als Sprachgruppe an weil zb das Fränkische und Schwäbische in Bayan und Tirol ja auch dazugehört und die auch gemischte Wörter haben. Lass dir nix von den Preissen sagen die wollen bayarn immer ihre Herkunft und Sprache absprechen.

[@Dom-zx3lg]

Lol her accent is just Bavarian but not the substance!! Try learning the German dialects of eastern Switzerland!

[@shoulders-of-giants]

Thank Fuck Bavaria is not Germany.

[@anggamardika4933]

Sounds like German.😅

[@hrs6480]

she didn’t speak real bavarian language but bavariangerman what is a dialect of the German and a variant of Bavarian aswell