New Land Raider Unveiled - The Land Raider Proteus is here, but does it Look Good?
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Let's talk about a new heresy era Land Raider...
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I like it. I’ve never been sold on the new Primarus look, as really love the bulky gothic aesthetic, the models just look more solid and survivable. Plus who doesn’t love British WW1 tanks in the future.
Definitely my preferred shape. 40k to me has always had that impractical aspect. Everything is just vaguely brick like. I think of the Ep4 idea where the lightsabers were intended to be heavy and harder to control to give that feel of something old and anachronistic. I'll have to see the kit but I'm optimistic price aside. I'm very pleased that GW seems to be really pushing the retro vibes with HH
I absolutely adore the land raider proteus. Also, being someone who runs a chaos force the heresy era kits fit the chaos theme way better than the current 'chaos' vehicle kits, which are just 40k era vehicles with spikes added for dramatic effect. If you have things like this, contemptor and leviathan dreadnoughts as well as other heresy era kits sprinkled among your 40k chaos force it makes the army feel much more like that 'veterans of the old war' theme i love about the way Chaos is portrayed in the lore.
This. While the more modern things fit for Renegades, either outright or recruits for the Legions, the Heresy era stuff just feels nice in a Chaos army.
Playing Chaos in 40k feels a lot like a Ken doll... "Just another accessory with a name." Great to see someone giving them some life.
I plan to build my death guard with some heresy era space marines and terminators with an original colour sheme and mix parts between the units. The more corrupted an unit is the greener it get
Your comments about the Land Raider Exploratory at around 3:22 and being unsure of what it will do… The Exploratory is already in the Liber Astartes. (Gains Scout, loses some transport capacity, loses the front access port, few more points, can’t be taken as a squad)
I will definetly field it as a standard LR in my 40k games! Love the Rogue Trader era retro look!!
in the nephlem era of low cp, GW really should get rid of "martial legacy" if they want to sell more of this HH stuff to 40k players
Even without nephilim they nerfed most of the most offensive stuff making the extra CP just feel unnecessary
I would argue in general, Martial Legacy should go. Honestly I think the next editions of the CSM and SM Codex should just outright include Heresy era things in them and maybe just either balance them with the rest of the Codex or make them cost a bit more points wise.
It would help to know what benefit there is to buying one of these instead of the God hammer version, which many of us already own. I do really like the model, I just wanna know up front.
Piss off, youve got everything good. I make my lists with the CP cap when I play marines. Work around it
They also need to update the chaos stuff to be traitorous astartes. It's ridiculous making me spend a cp on a subpar unit that will break my army bonus abilities
Gonna run this as a Chaos Land Raider. I don't care if they aren't great, I love Land Raiders and I really love the classic Land Raiders.
ive got one of the original rogue trader land raiders, im missing a las cannon though as the mounts for them were literally a 2mm thick rod of plastic lol
Iron Warriors strike me as the most hipster of all the chaos space marines with their vintage mark 3 power armour and vehicles who only they been recovering again and again the past 10,000 years.
Hey, no eagles on your track links. Makes Horus proud.
@@villiamkarl-gustavlundberg5422 I mean... You're not wrong. But hey, at least they know style. And it's a lot less obnoxious trim to paint. The hazard stripes on the other hand...
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Hazard stripes aren't that bad.
Look at least you don't have to paint checker pattern like some armies require
Might actually use this for my CSMs.
correction LR Proteus is 220 points
if you give it the same things as the normal landraider it is 250 so 5 points more even though it is the same.
BUT it can get a 5++ save for 15pts.
It also can be a transport which matters in a lot of RoW
Man I wanted one of the old one for my Thousand Sons collection (seems fitting that Chaos Legion have older versions), mostly because I like the model and the nostalgia it had for me. But it was hard to get and I didn't felt like hunting for one very seriously. But this new one, yes sir I'll get one for sure! Best of both world! Looks just like the classic (modernized, but still have the same visual cues), and easy to get!
I don't really care about how competitive or meta it is really, if the model/unit is cool I get one (minimum) in my army!
Yeah I wanted some heavier shooting, and thought that the land raider would work nicely for the sons. Excited to get one eventually.
Could never justify buying the armored proteus at its old price so this is great.
yep, mad FW prices.
I just hope the new kit has those armored sponsons in it. I liked those a bit better than the exposed lascannons.
I like it ngl.
I may try to convert one into a BT crusader.
Gonna get one and run it as a chaos land raider with Creations of Bile (where I'm using quite a few Heresy models anyway so eventually it can have dual duty as an EC Heresy army)
I've always loved land raiders.
Vulcan, Dorn and The Emperor were brilliant designers, lol.
It's like a reverse Leman Russ without the turret, pretty cute
METAL BAWXES. Love it
Hey AT I know you don't cover Kill Team, but GW recently made one of their best decisions in recent memory by releasing an abridged version of the core rules and even a few datasheets. I think this is a step closer to GW finally making 40k rules public, or at least some of them. GW's good decisions should be publicly commended and I think your platform could reach a lot of people to show the company that this was the right move.
I find myself wondering if someone will make 3D printable component sets to build this kit as one of the variant Land Raiders. This as a basis for a Crusader, Redeemer, Prometheus or Helios would certainly look different. Those kits, mostly new sponsons, would of course likely fit the Spartan as well. But would a Spartan with gravis heavy bolter sponsons and no front weapons be useful on the tabletop?
I've been waiting a while for this to come out. But my Chaos Land Raider is great now, so I don't know if the awesome retro look justifies the purchase. My CSM LR looks great too.
what's the in-universe justification for having fully exposed tracks? in the real world during ww1 designers worked out pretty quickly that tank tracks required protection, because if one gets broken then the tank is a large and now immobile target for the enemy. it's obviously an aesthetic thing most of all, but usually there's a fluff-based reason for things being the way they are as well. if forcefields/void shields get involved then obviously this is moot (like on the krios & karaknos mechanicum tanks), but i feel like the astartes & guard usually rely on good old-fashioned armour for vehicular protection
Would guess the Mechanicus see alteration of STC designs as heresy, no matter how practical.
@@claymore1555 yeah that follows, but it doesn't explain why they were designed with exposed tracks in the first place
I think these are begging to be kitbashed into various chaos legions. The simplicity of the design, combined with the classic look would make for a great addition to anyone's grimdark evil forces.
This is exciting! I enjoy the retro style.
Never been a big fan of vehicles but these look pretty sick ngl
You forgot the land raider explorer will have Scott rules which is on the GW community page
I love this little guy. But I prefer the dozer one, has more optical sensors. Other one looks like it's driving blind. Twin lascannon looks suspiciously like laser destroyer....
Honestly I'm just happy that the door actually fits behind the tracks rather than jutting out, which would obstruct the utility of the tracks going around the whole vehicle.
As someone who owned the original Land Raider kit (advertised as: "The Shape Of War To Come") I cannot but approve this. I am a bit puzzled at how this could be "divisive", but hey, everything nowadays seems to be.
I think they should do it kind of like the rhino and razorback assault ramp variant and then this version somewhere between the rhino and predator you have the razorback so maybe the one with the construction blade could be like a little penalty to movement or decrease carrying capacity or something that would be a neat way to get both models in the game as something more than just an occasional aesthetic oddity
Man I hope an updated Leman Russ comes with a more modern styled kit. I love the space between the hull and wheels so the vehicles actually have suspension
Can't wait for the new plastic Proteus!
Meanwhile, I gotta build my old one from Forgeworld...
Here is the only thing I don't like about these " over the top tank track" type kits, if you look the piece in the Middle where the tracks join together protrudes to the point that that's all that makes contact with the surface it makes it look like it's installed upside down real tracks have joints on them like that and they even protrude but the protrusion part is what the road wheels grab onto to propel it forward so it looks like the tank tracks are put on inside out. Plus side I love the way that the whole set of tracks is cut out and a big long individual slivers making them very easy to recast and convert a repulsor from a grav vehicle into the nych Superior track vehicle. 😜
So this is what all those extra bits are for in the age of darkness land raider kit.
I just keep imagining this video in relation to GW's scale issues. In my mind's eye I picture the old land raider as presented on the white background of Auspex's screen shot next to a primaris marine's booted leg with the marine's hip and other leg falling off the top and right edges of the screen, making the vehicle seem like a sort of in-universe Barbie Dream Land Raider, that a 40k 7-year-old could drive around the backyard in in comparison. 🤣
Looks great, hope we can put a command squad and some recon Marines in there.
I recall it divided opinions in the way back, with a scathing review in one if the wargaming magazines being typical. And yes, I'll buy one.
If everything goes as planned, once I get this mini I'm gonna commission a 3D platform for my noise marines.
I'm going full Mad Max truck
What you get if you fused a land raiders and primaris infiltrators? Land raiders proteus with exploratory array
Best looking Land Raider design, fight me.
It's definitely going into my Iron Warriors Warband gonna run it as a normal LR
Fun fact: the original plastic Land Raider vanished from shelves because somebody dropped the mould and it broke.
I remember when the original kit came. Out 12.99 for a pair it
I dunno, Am trying to pick a party bus for Mortarian and his retinue but it's harder in the hh than 40k, Transport cap is an odd duck in hh, Proteus carrier has 12 and that is probably my best option so im happy to see the plastic doesn't look like booty but the explorator only has an 8 cap, Would of preferred the dozer blade even if its completely useless rulewise for my army, The Spartan is its competition and it has a tc of 26 which is crazy, Even with morty taking 6 spots I could never bring enough termies to fill that so I dunno if its worth the extra points, Thought maybe I could decide on looks but honestly the new plastic proteus is probably about the same as the spartan so it didn't help :3
Super random but, chaos has no form of armored troop Carrier do they? Like they have no razorback they just have the land raider and the rhino right?
i asked GW on IG if there would be a heavybolter option in middle as a reference of the current plastic land raider.still no answer from which kinda speaks for itself
love the new plastics, will use in 40k aswell as heresy.
I think it’s funny that The land raider that has the assault ramp has two extra lascannons and the one that looks like a battle tank has no extra weapons but less. I’m still probably gonna buy 10 damn plastic crack🤣🤣🤣😂
The original had the option for a pair of pintle mounted heavy bolters, so there is the possibility that that may be an option.
Eh. I already have two Spartans and a pack of Godhammers (or Phobos, they're apparently called now) that I need to finish converting. The Proteus, I can wait until I see one as an Ebay rescue.
Thanks Auspex
Do you happen to have a video about the Kratos (and Deimos) for use in 40k?
These are the TRUE Land Raiders. Would love to have just one of my two old originals I used to have. The new ones do not hold a candle to these awesome machines. Would love for these to replace to new models. The LA d Raider with style and character.
Significantly better than the current Primaris look they’re pushing. If you asked someone to come up with a completely new tank concept, they would absolutely also not come up with those.
Arkhan Land is rolling in his grave
I really hope there are options to use the armored sponsons like the old forge world kit. I liked that option because it added more thickness.
It reminds me of those WWI tanks that I think Britain used? The real question on my mind is, does it look like it could actually fit 10 space marines in it? Because the current land raider looks like it could maybe fit 1 in it, if the marine was laying in a fetal position.
Rules-wise, I don't like that it has an invulnerable save.
At least i can play my 4 heresy LRs now they have released rules for them, super annoying that its not in my loyalist army book, i was hopping heresy wouldn't change to 40k where you have to take info for you army form four thousand places and own 200 books, especially with no app for army building
Damn another video, I just got the notification of the realise 5 minutes ago!
They are so dopey looking. How could you not want one???
I've been playing since 2ed, to me the Proteus is _the_ Land Raider.
It's as if they want to resell Space Marines to Space marines Player that got a full army already.
... Wait....
Another victory for the consumer, may the Emperor continue to favor us.👍
It's got tracks and not floaty bs. I'm in...
All these FW resin kits being redone as plastic has feebay all sorts of silly right now with the listings. Almost feel bad for the folks trying to sell off the FW ones for a price that would get them a bit of money back.
Question, can i use this model for a normal warhammer 40k game
Yes!
I love it but that's probably ´cause I'm old enough to played Rough Trader edition of 40K. I don't care if it's meta is good or not. Rules vise I think that any vehicle with an assault ramp should have the assault vehicle keyword. This game is supposed to be modell driven.
A thing of beauty 👌
As a Brit, based on your accent, you should at least have a passing familiarity with WW1 tanks. This land raider is just a Mark V Male made futuristic. I’m surprised you didn’t catch the reference to WW1 here. It seems that Heresy kits are the WW1 to 40K kits WW2 and Cold War.
Oh I love it.
I have no such nostalgia, having come over from fantasty only in 2015. This doesn't ring my bell.
T9 with new datasheet?
Well, bought mine 2 weeks ago from Forge World 😂
I like it it's pretty cool
So it's a backwards Leman Russ
More lascannons! Mooooorrrrreee!
Haha imagine getting this then adding quad lascannans. Ten lascannans!
I wish GW dumps the whole “martial legacy” garbage in 10th. Or nukes it even in 9th. I’d buy so much of this heresy stuff if the data sheets were already in my codex and didn’t require CP to use.
Or keep martial legacy but change it to “maximum of 1 per detachment” so you can’t spam contemptors, for example. But you could 1 contemptor, 1 land raider, etc in the detachment
I love it!
Classic .. ✌️💚
Cool but not CORE. Redemptor Dreadnaught ftw.
The great Irony of GW; their expensive plastic toys are never better than the sheet of paper following it.
Perfect kit for my Consecrator Space Marine chapter. Known for their high volumn of relics and artifacts. A lot of the HH stuff will go into it. They have nothing newer than Mark vi armor and have not received Primaris (yuck) reinforcements. Two with assault ramps to go straight down the throat of rhe Emperor's enemies and deposit the angels of death.
Nice
No need for this given that the Spartan exists. Still, no one is forced to buy this over the Spartan, so it's fine.
It’s significantly fewer points than a Spartan and can be taken as a dedicated transport by waaaaay more units. In a game with a heavily contested Heavy Support slot like Heresy, not having to dedicate one to a super expensive transport is a big deal.
Doesn’t seem like a great idea to expose the treads like that… Just asking to be disabled.😂
That or put costly armour on half of it (like the current landraider) and still get shot in the weak spot ;)
Pass for me! Too much cheese
It kinda looks like a children toy that can't fall over
That is not, and never has been, a dozer blade. That is a hedge cutter, and this isn't the first time you've been corrected on that.
The "new" model is unimaginative, but at least it looks a lot less easily broken than the notoriously fragile original kit that shed its guns if hit by a stiff breeze. Also doesn't have Imperial eagles on its (ugly) track links, which will make Chaos players feel better anyway.
I can still remember how proud GW was when they came out with the modern LR kit (around 2000-2001 IIRC) and devoted a big chunk of WD to how much better the detailing was, and here we are going into full nostalgic throwback mode and hardly anyone uses LR anyway.
Apart from being negative as shit, in the rules that “hedge cutter” is called a dozer blade. Just cool your jets a bit
Who pissed in your cereal today? It’s a bit of fun nostalgia, calm down.
The answer is: No, it doesn't. I don't understand why GW's only range of vehicle design now is outdated or overcomplicated.
Looks kinda meh. I'm not sure why you would get this versus just a traditional landraider.
Lmao rogue trader is not 40k dont know who needs to hear it 😂
Disliked them and thought they looked derpy AF in the 80's, and nothing has changed since.
Tbh, i never liked the looks of the 30k vehicles of old. Looked too much like WW1 crap compared to the slightly more modern looks of 40k. Maybe one of the reasons why I´m a fan of Cawl and the primaris looks.
What an ugly and useless thing that people love
I can’t even 😂 why’s it so goofy lookin
looks trash tbh but it makes sense since it's 30k
Nothing is wrong with 30k
It's boring, I don't care for the design. I understand it's "retro" but old and new design just look like first iteration world war I tanks. I know the 40K land raider is practically the same thing except armor atop the treads but it strikes a balance between original concept and future grim dark sci-fi. This new praetor design still looks like something out of axis and allies with extra bits
Personally I like that it's a bit more WW2 - suits the heresy quite nicely, brothers fighting brothers. The 2000s land raider always struck me as more of a xenos-unaliving machine.
@@clinch4402 Remember that vehicles and armor and weapons during 30k weren't developed to combat rival Astartes but whatever opposition the Imperium faced when laying claim to the galaxy, i.e. Humans, Xenos, etc - never other Astartes.
I argue that the 40k land raider is what should exist in 30k and the "modern" version should be iterated upon from that. But of course that's an argument from a personal opinionated lore viewpoint. I understand that the original design is literally 40 years old back when GWs models were squat, round, goofy, and less detailed all because modeling tech wasn't nearly as advanced as it is now.
@@clinch4402 or shit, do the exact opposite. Doesn't make sense that during the zenith of imperial warfare underneath the emperor of mankind that the land raider is less advanced in the ones being used after 10k years of stale technological advancements.
Idk, model bad me no like lol
Goofy ahh
Looks as shit as the old one
ugly tank and crap rules. :(
will not be getting this.