CAN YOU FORGE A GIANT END MILL?!
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So the title made me think you were going to try and make your own end mill lol
Same.
Same here.
Me too
I thought the same thing
Yup. Me too.
anyone else think he was going to make an endmill at first?
I did. Slightly disappointed 😔
Ya that is what i thought
yeh, and i got excited
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is still pretty good
Corey Gibson yes I thought he was going to.
Moral of this story: Never let Alec borrow your endmills.
Yep...he will break or bend it.
Hide your tools, hide your endmills, because we're making a thingamabob
@@cocodojo dont forget the whatcha-ma-whatsit
And what about the diddly-doos?
Couldn't use that monster on a 2hp Bridgeport anyway....
That was so fun to watch. Now I want the end mill back. This now become the most famous end mill in the world! Jason
From the way he was telling your story it sounded like you wanted him to use that end mill to help with forging something, not actually forging the end mill into something. 😄
How much did your end mill cost?
that was surreal. totally expected it to fall apart!
Must have been a good one. Not like those cheap ones you keep picking up at garage sales. Definitely a couple thou off.
You should make an endmill @thisoldtony!
Like most of your videos???? Lol jk love you
Yes tonyyy, please make the end mill we all thought he was making.
M42 is actually a high end knife steel aswell, so not to suprising
i totally thought you were going to MAKE a giant endmill
Yeah, me too. That's why I stayed up and watched it just before heading off to sleep. Now I have Alec's choice of music playing in my head.
Why not make it a knife?
The grinding would destroy belts and take a while
@@koshey245
You don't have to grind the bevels.
High speed steels are usually very difficult to heat treat, not to mention they require very high and precise temperatures, which makes it necessary to have an electric heat treating oven to do this ;)
@@BarbershopCustoms
See, now this sounds like a competent objection.
@@BarbershopCustoms so forge it and send it back to fireball to heat treat.
Well, you forged a hook out of HSS. I forged a fly swatter from titanium. I guess we are both idiots.
Alec Steel side project channel...
Will it forge?
.....cuz you work with a guy named Will.....that's all i got
Will--forge it!
I think it would make an excellent side series in the channel between projects.
@@JiryStark i agree... It would be pretty cool.
Yeah! I was thinking more of a parody of the blender guy; you know: "will it blend, that's the question?"
Good idea
Alec breaks so many end mills that he took some from Jason to break more
That's what i thought when i read the title! Figured maybe he could save some cash, but totally got it wrong! 🤣
Super SLo lmao I just fixed it
@@phillipgrunkin8050 now my reply doesn't make any sense 😁
I can definitely see a large improvement in the lighting in this episode! GJ!
Indeed, the footage quality and lighting has improved a lot. Keep it up!
same with the editing actually
Shame it bent. So _upsetting_ hehe
I see what ya did there. 😆
Good joke dad!
Spoilers.
@@micah2288 Apologies - it wasn't meant mill-iciously.
@@ApexHerbivore ⚒️
I'm a simple man. I see an Alec Steele video, I stop what I'm doing and watch it.
Same
So true
@@BigDubstepEnergy Think the thumbs up says enough..... but if not yep same. If i only got time for a youtube video i watch his if i don't have tim i make time
I think you ment unoriginal
Even though I should be taking trash out at work, Alec Steele posts a new vid, I watch.
6:45 *Has an entire rack full of steel*
“I figured I’d just make the hook out of the end mill”
Please make a very nice dagger out of that very expensive cobalt steel!
Guy makes a hack paper weight out of it instead lol I feel bad for his buddy who gave it to him, probably thinking the bladesmith would smith him a blade...
_This Old Tony wants to know your location_
The poor endmill :(
he is alredy in the coment section i hope his vodoodoll isnt working any more 😂
It looks like he is in Belgrade MT
IT IS FANTASTIC TO HAVE YOU HERE AS EVER
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When will it be time to make a bigger forge? Guessing you won't be able to work out of Will's forever.
I'm surprised that wasn't his first big project. Will's forge should be for knives, and they should make a large one for the big blades.
@@_DST0NE_ Agreed, and it's not not colossal job. Steel box on legs, bolted to the floor, line it with fire bricks, couple holes in the top for the gas feed, much like his old one. Unless he's planning something truly storming to surprise us with. Either way, he needs to remember to clean the floor in there 😂😂😂
I feel there may be a plan here. MEGAFORGE in the coming months maybe?
So long as Will's has got a pass thru hole, they can forge just about anything in that thing (except for maybe a hungamunga) . It is also far more efficient than Alec's previous forge by the looks of it. 2" of Ceramic wool, hard-face dense refractory, and Zirconium silicate coating and you've got a cheap and super efficient forge that will get as hot as you want.
That actually felt like a waste of good steel.
Alec you should use the M42 to make a new knife out of, its wonderful steel for any sort of application with a cutting edge. maybe just a fixed blade edc knife? or a new kitchen knife maybe?
Ya hss is made for a sharp durable edge
i was thinking he made a hard working piece like a machete/axe/hammer
I'm a wood turner, and M42 bowl gouges and scrapers are amongst the most expensive wood lathe tools you can find. I kinda cringed when he just squished it.
Yeah my first thought was, MAKE A KNIFE! But he squished it? Maybe he’ll make an M42 knife some other time...
Make a Knife, stupid idea to squish it.
Yeeeeaaaa! The good looking videos are back!! So glad you fixed your lighting problem or color grading or whatever it was. Nothing ruined about that video, it is great to see things being back to normal...or rather super now.
Yeah, for some reason they weren't color correcting the video and so they looked really grey and drab. I commented about it a number of times hoping someone would notice and finally 4 videos ago they started doing it again. Very happy now! :D
Someone gives you some of the toughest steel around, you don't make something to whack or poke things with. Are you sure you are ready to live in Montana? :0)
Nice shop, sir - and looking forward to the Saber build completion!!
Next up now that you're in the US -- tomahawks. Seriously.
As much of a learning experience it is watching Alec try out new things like casting or engraving, I do so love the simple act of forging things.
Could have made a vice jaw for your mill out of that. I don’t know how useful it would be though.
HSS vice jaw wouldn't be the best idea as it would easily damage the stock/part put in it.
I love your videos alec and I’ve been watching since you’re old city workshop and I love how much you’ve grown and that you have finally achieved your dreams of moving to the states for black smithing
Finally a new one I've been waiting for what feels like forever lol
I'd love it if you could get a metalurgist in your shop and make somewhat of a series of this. Get even more in-depth with this idea of learning and experimentation.
If you do weld a tab to the end mill hook I suggest doing it a little bit of the ways down the hook so the flutes work as a post so you can hang more things there
That End mill is an absolute unit.
Was...
That steel would have made a great center steel in a Damascus blade. Still can be ,flatten it out and add to the center layer.
That last one would be one hell of a paperweight
Right off the bat, I thought you were gonna forge steel into an end mill. I bet you could! Youre turning into a master fabricator along side already being a master blacksmith. How old are you even? 24?! Stay true with everything you do, my friend from across the pond.
Forge a giant end mill? You're taking over the colonies Alec.
The steel from the end mill seems to be stronger than the normal steel you use, could u please try making a sword out of it later on, and compare which sword is stronger the end mill steal of the normal steel?
Love your videos keep up the amazing work Alec!!!
Might be too brittle for a sword but an Axe could do.
Hi Alec. The formula for working out what different elements do in a steel is called carbon equivalency. It's used to work out how a certain type of steel is welded.
You didn't ruin it. You now have a squished end mill that looks awesome.
That is the beefiest dish towel hook I've ever seen!
Think you should rather use that squished piece and make a knife from that for Jason?
Keep giving us metric measurements as well as the super gr888 imperial
imperialist measurements please no more sillymetres
I would love to have seen you forge a blade out of that larger end mill! Can't wait to see more on the cutlass!
Always glad to see a new Alec Steele video! One note, HSS and HSS-Co8 aren’t the same. The Co8 means that it is 8% Cobalt as well, like 6Al4V titanium is 6% aluminum and 4% Vanadium.
Put it at the end of a steel rod and make it a golf club
Aueee let’s get it boissssss
That large end mill would make for one hell of a bangin Mace.
Loving the old school Alec Steele video. You always have great content but I still like these types of videos where you're eager to just try something cool.
Thought we were gonna forge our own end mill.
That had to be a little painful, destroying a good tool....
RIP
Unless it was getting dull and wasn’t working well.
From the looks of the closeups at the start, that big one looks like it has a few chips and is probably dull.
yes, they both looked very dull.
Give him an end mill that he can make anything out of...he squishes it.😂 I like his thinking.
8:50 Bury it in the desert and say you found the foot bone of an unknown dinosaur species LOL
Don't want to assume but I think he wanted for you to use it in the production of something, not use it as a material.
Oh yeah!!! Thanks Alec!!!
I don't know about many of the other alloy elements, but molybdenum and tungsten are designed to improve toughness at incandescent temperatures so the tool can heat up a lot and still not soften or crack when slicing its target object.
That clip of will sharpening the cavalry sword on the sander without gloves on made me queazy!!
Dang, it is not about creating the perfect video, so you can't ruin it... Please don't forget where you came from Alec...
You should've made a blade from the end mills. Maybe you could get some more hss and forge weld it together with some spring steel (5160, 1095, etc.) and make a san mai laminated katana, or better yet a nodachi
The good old days of UA-cam... “is it a good idea to forge this?” Or “will it forge”... anyone?
reminds me of the cromemoly we forged to make a hammer. Real hard stuff.
ZNA Productions and Alec should do a build together. I'm dropping this comment every video to see what kind of reactions I can get.
I have to say, I hope that never happens.
@@DEATH_TO_TYRANTS why? ,🤣
Go away
Would be awesome
Bump.
I remember when you forged a very expensive metiorite, but ruined to.
>Breaks out the calipers to measure the end mill
>Written right on it
Great seeing you doing your old style videos!
Why didn't you just make a knife or something to use in the Stop?
Can you make an End mill aka Forge one.
Yo! The color grading and lighting is way better in this video.
Love you guys!
So when your looking at steels with other elemental additives. Look for the carbon equivalency. Adding any intermittent element will discourage dislocation and make the steel act like it has a higher carbon content as well as add other attributes. Silicon makes steel have more flow ability and weld ability. Boron added in high amounts make a steel brittle, but in small amounts makes it tougher. Basically, all your're looking for is 'Carbon Equivalency'
Really enjoyed it! Keep it up
High speed kitchen mill? 😂 Are you sure you tried?
Hey Alec can you try forging the needle from the game of thrones
Can you make a video where you parody Gordon Ramsey’s instruction style? Where he goes shallots. Cut. Oil. On. Heat. On. Salmon. Skin side. Down. Magnificent ...
Tons of fun watching you mess around like this. Good stuff man!
Hey love the vids I would enjoy a visit to your shop
Dmitri Abbott same bro
Best thing is I dont live to far away
Yeast
That squished end mill looks like it would be a cool looking pommel.
That squished end mill looks like it would make one great handle for some kind of steampunk sword cane / umbrella gun.
Please talk metric
You take some super tough material and you forge a hook?...... Why not a nice knife or a sword or something.
dont work material thats stronger than your tools, really bad and expensive idea
@@Ibrahim-ut6pn
That's the whole concept of forging though.
You know, heating up hard metal to make it malleable with tools that couldn't affect it cold.
Take some of that endmill cutoff and engrave yourself a custom steel stamp. Maybe a year stamp with an anvil outline. :)
It looks like you cleaned your camera!!
No more haze. NICE!!!
Maybe just got more lights.
Fantastic as ever!!!
Can you forge a knife from an end mill?
Better question; would that knife be able to cut other Damascus knives?
the short answer: yes...kinda
the long answer: you can forge a knife out of an end mill but the difficulty of it is that it has already been pre-heat treated from a factory for a very specific purpose, so you would have to actually have a high temperature electronic controlled heat treatment oven, preferably with an inert gas seal system that would allow you to heat the steel at a very specific rate, and hold it at high temperature for a specified amount of time, then also be able to cool it at specified rate as well, then be able to actually take the steel and forge it into proper shape.
after that to be able to heat treat the steel for blade worthy performance it would be imperative to have the same heat treatment kiln to be able to heat the steel and hold at a specific temperature for a certain amount of time so that all of the carbides from the tungsten, vanadium, and cobalt have proper time to be put into solution into the matrix within the carbon cube form, without this you would not be getting any worth out of the steel as from just a gas forge, the ability to control specific temperature ranges is very difficult as the temperatures can vary by 100+ degree's, and for extended hold times you begin to lose a very large amount of integrity from the carbides possibly coming in and out of solution or not entering solution of the matrix at all. also from the wide ranging temperature swings the possibility of micro fractures is exponentially increased. while it is a nice idea to be able to use this steel for a knife, there are also much better options, while this is a "cutting" tool, it does not have the kind of alloying contents in the proper proportions to be truely successful in a traditional "knife" sense of the term. also the handling of the steel for heat treatment is much more advanced than i think either Alec or Will, have the current knowledge to deal with, they also dont currently have the kind of equipment to do it true justice.
@@DarkWolf-yr1ml Thank you for the highly detailed and knowledgeable response. It makes sense we won't get to see it because it would be way too difficult, specific/techincal, and expensive. I am still glad to know it's possible.
First time ever I felt a little like this was a gratuitous video made entirely for the sake of filling a gap between actual content with "let's heat up some end mills for the heck of it".
Time wasted, it probably took longer to watch than it did to record.
Please give us real content Alec. You're allowed one of these every great once in a while, no more than that though.
Personally i think its fine to do every now and then if what hes doing is taking time. Putting out a short pointless vid still gets clicks and keeps traffic flowing i no its not the best video but its a business that relies on traffic so something is better than nothing and most people are happy to watch with the understanding that better is coming its just to stay further up on u tubes view list so they recommend him more often as a consistent uploader its part of the you tube algorithm
I thought it was educational!
@@RubenWoodcraft comment sections are for writing everything including our opinions. If YOU don't understand it then kindly stay out of it. Alec is a big boy and I'm sure he is interested in what his viewers think about his content.
When I was a wee lad I tried to forge something from an old machinist's tool bit blank. That was tungsten-type HSS. I couldn't get it hot enough, and it just snapped when I started hammering on it.
As you said, both of them are made of high speed steel. The tungsten and cobalt in HSS are there to help prevent the steel from deforming while hot. Thus, it was harder to forge than normal steel.
I thought you were actually going to try and make your own end mill in a forge and was prepared to laugh. Instead, you are taking an end mill and forging it to something else. It would be a lot less clickbait if the title said you were forging an end mill in to something.
Get over it already. Do you click bait complainers have a sub Reddit where you congregate to figure out which video you'll insert your complaints into next?
@@xenonram l don't have a reddit account. I do have a CNC mill and a forge. So, when someone says they are going to forge an end mill, I read it as someone planning on making an end mill, for a mill.
Do you have a certain keyboard that you use when you are a keyboard warrior or do you use the same one you use when you talk to Chris Hansen?
Finally a video without the other guy. Less other guy, more Alec. Better yet, no other guy, all Alec.
I missed seeing Will, so bugger off.
All of us who have ever relied on end mills for work just died inside seeing this video.
That's one high speed kitchen mill. Lol.
Not gonna lie this is a pretty sad excuse for a video
Agreed. And his attempt at a vacuum chamber made me scratch my head. It's only a vacuum chamber. He way over thought it and had a bad design process. KISS- keep it simple stupid
Don't get me wrong, I love his videos, but when videos like this which are clearly made just for the sake of making a video, it gets me triggered
Would have been interesting to see a heat treatment comparison between the steels. Would also be interesting to see you experiment with some different steels for your projects
The last end mill could make an awesome looking putter for golf
If you’re looking for stuff to forge, you should forge some steel frames for your swords so they’re not just hung on drywall screws. Maybe with nice leather backing. Works of art deserve nice displays.
I love the small distraction video in the bugger project. It's a great way to break things up
Thanks for the Steele fix!
I could see someone put the "Squished" end mill in the Tool Crib at a Machine Shop Just to Make Other Machinists Scratch Their Head. Lol
I've been wanting to see a knife made out of an old endmill. Nice to know it's somewhat doable
My sons and I love watching your shows we are half way through with your older videos. Keep smoooooshin steal to your will sir Alex. Thank you for bringing my sons and I closer together.
I HAVE BEEN REFRESHING UA-cam EVERY 30 MINUTES SINCE THE LAST VIDEO WAITING FOR THIS!!!!!!
Now that looked fun!!
Cool funny vid alex like it. Don’t be afraid to do content this “light” as it’s great and il always watch it
I saw the title of this video and thought you were going to MAKE an endmill by handforging....
The reality was far more possible! X)
I miss these instructional videos that used to make back in the day
hahaha a dish cloth hanger. You got to laugh at that.
Did you know that HSS does not temper? It is used in machine tools specifically because when it gets hot it does not lose it's hardness, so if you burn one you can just regrind and continue working.