VEGETA'S "FINAL EXPLOSION" ATTACK IS BACK IN DBS!! Girlfriend's Reaction DBS Episode 126
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The hypocrisy that Madison and I mention during this reaction is -->
Vegeta spent most of his life killing beings across the entire galaxy for “the thrill of it”
He did this all the way up until the world martial arts tournament in the Buu saga where he murdered dozens (if not hundreds) of innocent bystanders just because he wasn’t able to get his fight with Goku…
Vegeta with this kind of horrific past has no place in judging Toppo and his decision to become a destroyer...
Yes actually he DOES. Vegeta's past has absolutely NOTHING to do with PRIDE. Vegeta isn't insulting Toppo for becoming a Destroyer. That's NOT the issue. The isssue is Toppo seling out his PRIDE and throwing away EVERYTHING HE STANDS FOR. Toppo was getting beaten and his choice to deal with it was throw a tantrum and say fuck my beliefs, they didn't help so I'll just get rid of them. Vegeta is insulting Toppo's arrogance in calling himself a "Pride" Trooper and so VEERY EASILY throwing Pride out the window when things don't go his way. The Destroyer aspect has NOTHING to do with it. So No. There's NO Hypocrisy there. If ANYTHING Toppo is the hypocrite for calling Goku the "Villain." at least Goku and Vegeta NEVER ONCE denied their own personal beliefs just to win a fight.
@@patrickcromwell7554 Also the fact that it has been reiterated many times throughout Dragon Ball Z that second chances are a thing. Redemption is a big theme in DB where they took villains like Piccolo, Vegeta, hell even Tien kind of was as well, and made them heroes. There is no point in having "character arcs" where they undergo a transformation of self if you're going to go and judge the end result of the arc because "they did something bad" in the beginning.
Vegeta is not the same Vegeta that he was in the Saiyan Saga, and although I agree with Baris on most Dragon Ball topics, this one, not at all. You have Villain Vegeta (long past), Hero Vegeta and the blending of the two (Majin), and on that note, using Majin Vegeta against him at this stage is wrong. While he wasn't complete under Babidi's control, his rage and aggression had been awakened so he definitely wasn't himself. Vegeta has matured so drastically over the years of Dragon Ball Z / Super and it is part of what makes his character so beloved. He absolutely does have the right to judge Toppo because the man Vegeta is, is nothing so far from evil.
@@kevingassen8233 I don't think it's as complicated as all that. Vegeta has the right to judge him because he'd been where Toppo is. He's been utterly defeated and demoralized. By Frieza AND Goku. And he still never abandoned his pride and threw a tantrum. That's the point. Doing evil things is not the point. PRIDE, is the point. Yet very few people can't seem to understand that.
@@patrickcromwell7554Well said!! Well said indeed!!
Although it didn't have nearly as much weight as Vegeta vs Buu, the fact that his "Atonement blast" actually worked this time felt more satisfying. It felt like the creators of Dragonball Z were so upset that Vegeta's atonement amounted to little more than a minor inconvenience for Buu that they wanted to bring it back in more spectacular fashion and ensure it's success.
The problem was, it was completely unnecessary lmao. You don’t do a ”self destruction” attack that drains all of your energy at best, when you are already beating your opponent 10-0.
Had Toppo remained the top dog and Vegeta overcame him with that blast, it would have had more impact, but to see Vegeta beating him even through Hakai, it necer made any sense that he stops his momentum completely just to start charging an attack that can kill him at worst, and drain everything he has at best, especially when Jiren is still there.
I don’t know, kind of awkward, forced fan service moment when the hype glasses are taken out
@@grydon6422if vegeta wouldn’t do that how Goku would get the spotlight
Well it does make sense.. you gotta figure. He was fighting for his family too. And if he didn’t beat top, goku and company likely couldn’t have withstood that duo of jiren and top. Which means the whole universe vs vegetas own life to give his universe a fighting chance. It was a reasonable sacrifice, especially cause he didn’t suicide bomb. He didn’t seem too surprised at surviving so I would say he likely knew his limit, thus saving him. And if it were luck, again, it’s a reasonable sacrifice. One for one. Potentially saving his family and friends
@@grydon6422I think Vegeta was beating him hand to hand sure but he probably couldn’t over power a full power concentrated haki blast without using final explosion.
In reality I think it was just fan service.
I'm curious. How is Vegeta a hypocrite?? He never once EVER claimed to fight for justice. Only his own personal pride. NOTHING is more important to Vegeta than that. So where's the hypocrisy exactly??
I don't get it either.
No, it doesn't make all that much sense.
Vegeta did forsake his ideals though when he let babidi take him over for a power upgrade
@@RhythmEmotions Babidi didn't take him over? He literally took the small power boost and said nah I'm good on any and all orders, Babidi couldn't even take it back or he would have.
@@RhythmEmotions Yes, that's exactly why Vegeta is calling out Toppo for doing what he once did. Vegeta has grown beyond the time where he threw away his ideals to obtain more power by becoming a Majin, it's something that present Vegeta wouldn't even consider. There's no hypocrisy.
Vegeta isn’t a hypocrite he always fought for his pride as a saiyan its his one main guiding motivation but what he channels that pride into has changed over the series. When we first met him he was a conqueror he took over planets and killed all who stood in his way but now after several seasons he is fighting for his universe for his family and his promise to a saiyan who fell in battle but he always stuck to the saiyan pride. Its why he calls out Toppo who was so dedicated to his cause of justice but quickly forsake it. Its a good full circle moment to the Buu Saga how Goku called out Vegeta for becoming a Majin and why Vegeta called Toppo for something similar failure.
Well it definitely sounds hypocrite 😂.
@@09_bavaliya_vipul_b.76 ☝
He is a hypocrite.
One of Vegeta's best moments (although this will never top the true final atonement).
Vegeta has so many good speeches during the tournament. Goosebumps honestly.
The sad thing is Jiren wasn’t wrong when he called out Toppo.
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Toppo gave up his ideals and still lost while Vegeta kept to his and found the strength to win.@@adilssjg4297
@@adilssjg4297 he means that Toppo had 0 eliminations....
Even Dyspo was able to elimante Gohan, in a way
@@miguelangelo8021yeah. It was the fact he dropped his morals and STILL LOST
@@fruitloops5672 exactly and in their time, from the moment he dropped his believes to The moment he got out, only 2 mins passed, maybe less. So that was kinda pathetic from toppo
4:50 How the heck... 🤣
It's simple and Frieza's best and most underrated trait, Frieza and his race are like 10x more durable than their power level would suggest. Remember, cut in half and blasted by Goku's "You Fool !" blast, he still survived a planet of the size of Namek exploding on him and then long enough after that to be rescued... Hell, he is somewhat contious whilst in pieces after Trunks had his fun, as we can see right before he blasts him and right after they ress his pieces. You need to be much, much stronger than Frieza to even properly hurt him, let alone kill him.
If Goku & Vegeta or even Piccolo were this much of a tanks, they'd actually be unstoppable. Frieza is GOATED in this regard 🦎
The recall to final atonement moment
Definitely disagree with your stance on the final atonement. In my eyes it wasn’t Vegeta who facing atonement, it was Toppo. Toppo decided to go down a dark path to achieve his goals just Vegeta did when he went Majin. It’s definitely poetic and not cheap
DID YOU SEE THE RING?!
What ring?
Crack me up 😂😂
Just one Pride Trooper left!
DUUDE! This episode was so hype! I loved they brought Vegeta's final atonement back.. I really enjoyed the nostalgia.
You have to remember, those days of dbz are of an era bygone in replacement of our modern times..
Those same captures can only be recovered so much, but I understand where you're coming from...
Kinda have to take a moment and think, like I have this globally known franchise. I have produced products that are famed for its iconic characters...
In my own opinion, I look at it as they want to re-invent what they created years ago, but at the same time want to pay homage and not completely replicate what was before...
They want to use the inspiration to remake some of the same scenes or familiar events in dbs to basically pay homage to the classical production.
It's possible they couldn't get those classical actors or pay them enough to repeat those exact lines in those dbz flashbacks or even use them for the current versions of the characters really.
But I'm still happy to see things like the final flash, final atonement, Frieza giving Goku some energy after his first battle with Jiren, and more..
But yea, and speaking of Frieza, I got to give him some credit. He actually tried to still compete somewhat with Toppo after all that. The first time I saw that, it surprised me, and I loved it!
Now it's time to face the boss!
Witness and behold...... Jiren, the Gray.
Well no, I don't agree that it was "so cheap" I mean it IS a TEAM competition after all. Yu certainly didn't have a problem with Freiza and 17 ganging up on Topp, Madison. Now that Topp and Jiren us team tactics, it's "cheap"?? lol.
My bro is glazing.
I thought it was great because it continues to show vegetas evolution and how when it really matters, such as this tournament, he’s willing to sacrifice everything to keep his family and ideals alive.
Nah I don’t think they got rid of the death after being dead thing
ther eis no death after being dead go abk watch goku bring 17 to king kai plane with that bomb guy goku told king kai what you worried about your all ready dead you cant die agian goku told you the dead cant die agian in super
I loved the flashback, but I hate the version they used. Best version was still
Buu: "You look tasty, I make you chocolate, or maybe even cracker and cheese."
Vegeta: "Fool. I'm going to crush you and throw you into the wind."
Still gives me chills.
Watching Madisons reaction to the flashbacks is everything, this is why watching DragonBall from the very beginning is important, you catch and appreciate they do those call backs
Krillin: VEGETA NOOOOOO!!!
Vegeta: VEGEEETAAAAAA YEAAAASSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
You know whats even more funny with scenes regurgitated. When the song opening sequence of jiren and goku fighting. Is actually the exact same fight sequence when goku first fought frieza
One thing about this tournament that I can't wrap my head around is when fighters get beaten to a pulp and knocked out. But one minute later they are back on their feet and still able to fight at full power.
To that I would say this. If everything you knew and loved was going to be erased, you would always find a way to get back up and keep fighting. Pain is a reminder you’re alive. And in this case, so is your universe. So you have to will yourself to get back up and keep trying.
It’s just the level they are all at now. Plus no one is truly going all out too, they cannot kill so they have to keep their power just enough in check so they at most wear their opponent down.
It makes sense for the saiyans, they literally get more powerful, more up for it the more they fight. 17 has infinite stamina.
Frieza is also much like the sayians except he is a prodigy.
I like to think Jiren's " ...there something i want you to see.." at the end was the fact he hasn't powered up yet during this whole fight.
It was called the final atonement in the Buu saga but if you think back, Vegeta performed the same technique in saiyian saga. After Gohan got his tail cut off Vegeta used that attack or one almost nearly identical. It even used up a large amount of his energy. He commented they didn’t die because he didn’t have enough energy to finish them off.
I like it narratively. If you take the flow of the battle: Jiren is uncomfortable with how his fight against Goku and Vegeta together is going, so they switch it up to get Vegeta off Jiren's back. If Goku is defetead before Jiren, it's over. Jiren was taking a calculated risk that Frieza and 17 combined can do less to help Goku than Vegeta (probably accurate, considering they don't appear to do anything at all while Vegeta fights Toppo). For Vegeta, the more time he spends fighting Toppo, the more he is playing into the 11th's plan. Throughout the fight, he escalates quick ways to end it, eventually reaching Final Explosion.
Would he have won the fight if he continued it how it was going? Almost definitely, but he wants it over ASAP. Was it smart to blow himself up? Probably not, but he also wanted to prove a point. Also, it was nice to give the Final Explosion a big win. Vegeta winning the fight against Toppo quickly like he did was the worst case scenario for Jiren's plan there, which is why he's upset at the end.
I like how Toppo is not “invincible” like Jiren, he just has very strong defenses w/ his grappling techniques for up close combat and his destroyer armor keeping most energy attacks from working. There is a way to get around him, you just have to use your head when facing him
Nobody in dragon ball is truly invincible. They always have a weakness.
@ben0789 The Angels, Grand Priest and Zeno would like a word with you on your statement. 😅
I think Vegeta's final atonement was still meaningful, it showed us he was ready to sacrifise himself again, he had no idea whether he will survive it or not. Also it showed us how much Vegeta improved, how stronger he is, because he was able to survive it. and I think with this move he really step up to Goku's level. Without this move and knocking out Toppo with it, they all would have been f"cked.
I loved Vegeta’s final atonement here. It wasn’t at all regurgitated imo cause of course everyone is gonna use the same moves from DBZ in Super - kamehameha, destructo disk, final flash, etc. All of those moves were used in DBZ so why was it ok for them to “reuse” those moves but not final atonement? They didn’t really give anyone new moves so why was final atonement here off putting? Lmk what you think
Also something that isn’t often covered is how he was able to overcome destroyer energy. I believe when he agreed to be the next it started to funnel into him. After all Whis condition for taking him to beerus was under the assumption he would be the next destroyer to which he agreed
I mean the Final Atonement is just one of many MANY fan services that Dragon Ball Super is all about, after DBZ fans wanted more:
- New Transformations (got it, three times)
- Freeza back (got it, twice)
- Future Trunks back (got it)
- Vegetto back (got it)
- Tournament Arc (got it)
- Final Atonement (got it)
And many more, hate it or love it but this really isn’t anything Super hasn’t done 10 times over before this moment.
9:20 "How long can he maintain this form???" bruh.
There are literally only 5 minutes left until the end of the tournament.
anime time is weird
I agree strongly that they should've done more with Vegeta's atonement scene. Buu came back literally 5 minutes later, they could've at least had him not regenerate for a couple episodes/chapters because his sacrifice, so epic, was for nothing in the next episode after.
I don't think I dislike the technique because it was reused or lessened the impact of the original. I think I dislike it because it had intentionality in Z. I think it was the culmination of Vegeta as a character, ultimately realizing that he had caused a lot of hurt and suffering and wanting to make it right by sacrificing himself for those he loved to stop Buu. I think it should have been a one-off moment for the character. Here, it feels like another attack i.e. Final Flash that just has a lot of power with no repercussions. They could get the same result in other ways.
I can understand why you had issues with the Final Atonement being used in the tournament.
I don't think it was wrong to include it in the flashback. Piccolo qnd Krillen were there when Vegeta sacrificed himself to kill Buu. It makes sense that they would be worried about Vegeta killing himself.
One thing to remember is that Vegeta surviving the final atonement is due to the mastery of Ki he has achieved through SSBlue and Blue evolution. It's because of this mastery that it allows him to survive the FA. It shows Vegeta's growth as a person and a warrior.
In the past when he sacrificed himself he was still overly prideful and self destructive. His mastery of ki came less from learning proper Ki control and more from pumping up his muscles. This lack of mastery was why he ended up dying during his fight with Buu.
They are simply the ones assigned to Universe 11 and its Gods of Destruction. Belmod wears the symbol on his clothes to signify his status, and Toppo gets branded with the marks when he adopts his God of Destruction form ❤
Definitely you guys should do the final 2 episodes back to back 🙏 😊
You wanted Vegeta to have his moment. Here you go
We wanted vegeta to have his moment against a main villian.
@@ben0789 Toppo would had tore apart Goku at this level.
@@ben0789 except there aren’t any main villains in this arc, it’s not that sort of arc, it’s just fighter vs fighter.
3:51 when you hear this you know that some serious shit will go down.
Writers only shows how Powerfull Royal Blue Vegeta compared to Majin Vegeta back then without getting killed by his own Final Explosion , Its not about the comparison of FAREWELL DRAMA. it was a good Writing.
When 17 uses his shield, its called "Android Barrier" frequently in games. Android 18 can use it, as well as Cell. 17 seems to be the most proficient with it though.
Only a failure abandoned his principles and pride!!
Gotta love Vegeta speeches
Final atonement couldn’t have been done better in this episode imo. Good for Vegeta
I'd like to see you and madison react to dbz movies like the dead zone,the tree of might,the worlds strongest,lord slug,coolers revenge,the return of cooler,super andriod 13,the legendary super sayian,bojack unbound,broly the second coming,bio broly,fusion reborn,wrath of the dragon I'd think that would be really cool
Vegeta had to do it because he knew that blasts and punches coudnt get the job done thats y he said ill hit u with an attack u wont b able to destroy so i think that final move was much needed
Way to take one for the team, Vegeta! It was really cool seeing the devastating attack that he used to obliterate Buu and himself against Toppo, and managed to survive it this time.
I agree wyth you thoughts, however to use it against toppo at this stage in the story only capitalized how vastly more he's grown
2:20 "do you think goku and vegeta want to fight him like this?" Be careful what you wish for/say lol toriyama can hear you in the afterlife
This "Final Atonement" was far better than Z because he actually accomplished something in super. He literally sacrificed himself for no reason in the boo arc, and no progress was made whatsoever.
No reason? He said his reasons right before sacrificing himself. 😂
I love this episode, but Vegeta's Final Atonement is one of the best episodes ever.
@irishlad4723 Your missing the point, he sacrificed himself and buu was neither killed nor damaged. It was just really annoying that he literally died and no progress was made.
I think I agree with you Baris about the final atonement. I like that he used that move here, and Piccolo's reaction. But I don't think they needed to show the shots from DBZ. It's kinda like "Hey, we're referencing this thing here, y'remember?" we get it. it could have been powerful on its own. Imagine this: We get Vegeta's momentum switch, and THEN he does that monologue about what he's fighting for, then goes off like a bomb. That would have been even more epic.
The symbol on Toppo's chest is the emblem of Universe 11.
His going to Hakayyyyyyy Jiren by accident 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not sure why you call it a regurgitated scene. It's an extremely powerful technique, sort of like Goku's Spirit Bomb, but you don't call that a regurgitated scene do you?
Legit my favorite episode/fight of the ToP.
Vegeta loves holding his arm! 😂
Damn Royal Blue actually sounds 🔥🔥🔥
DBZ: Vegeta uses final explosion to destroy Majin Buu but failed.
DBS: Vegeta uses final explosion to eliminate Toppo from the Tournament of Power and succeeded
Loved your reaction❤
And think about how much more devestating that final explosion is compared to when he was SSJ2.
14:19 I just cried again RIGHT NOW... 😅🤭😭
the symbols on his chest represent the number of the universe that the destroyer represent in a mythical language
The shapes on topōs body,beerus clothes, champa,etc are the symbols of their universes and destroyers, so basically topōs symbol is the same as Vermonts
А сталось 5 самых крутых Серий и сарзу надо будет посмотреть Фильм Броли а потом начинать смотреть Драконий Жемчуг Супер Герой.
Vegeta, the real Pride Trooper indeed.
Beerus is still stronger than MUI Goku And Ultra Ego Vegita.
It’s ironic how the warriors who claim to fight for justice end up resorting to un-just methods to achieve it. Top and Zamasu are the same in that regard.
Nope, that soundtrack is called "fist fight battle"
Its hilarious how Vegeta criticizes Toppo for using destruction power when later in the manga Vegeta uses the same power.
Really??! Maybe you need to rewatch the episode. Or maybe you need to comprehend better… Vegeta wasn’t criticizing Toppo for “using destruction energy,” he was criticizing him for giving up all of his beliefs and all his ideals just for the sake of wining. That’s his whole point. You don’t sacrifice who you are to get something like that. You use your beliefs and ideals to drive you to that point!! That’s why he was criticizing Toppo. And then when Vegeta does finally get his Ultr Ego form, he hasn’t sacrificed who he is as a character at all!!
Judging by how Vegeta was dominating Toppo did he really need to employ the final explosion? I could see him easily smashing Toppo out of the ring.
You two are definitely my two favorite reaction duo hope Dragon Ball Super Broly and Dragon Ball Super Super Hero is in the mix soon
Vegeta said exactly why he let take him over and it wasn’t for justice lol
U guys are reaching the absolute peak of dragon ball.... in the next few episodes be prepared to lose your minds
It's not canon but it's awesome as hell but unrealentgaming has a manga series where Vegeta becomes a destroyer and Goku perfects angel power plus combines it with ssj4.
we in this now the end is nearrr
Every time I keep thinking it everything gets a erased I feel like it’s being deleted digimon déjà vu😅 13:11
The move paralysis is the same manuver Frieza used against Goku on Namek before he turned into a super saiyan
They’re not regurgitated scenes they’re flashbacks… you act like they did a whole 10 mins on the scene it’s good to show people who haven’t watched dbz in a while or for the newer audiences that never seen it but now would like to go watch… that’s with every series of anything ever!! I guarantee every tv show has flashbacks or even previously on this episode… and I loved the scene he showing what we all knew that he’s fighting for his family even if he didn’t say it until now!!
I think it was wise to recall
Considering tht ur universe is on the line
17 should. Learn the kamehameha to finish his arc
I agree, watching the final two Episodes back to back, would be ideal.
Toppo don't compare to beerus's power. Because for one thing beerus is the oldest god of destruction and also has more techniques and experience using hakai. Even in the managa beerus is the strongest destroyer.
"It was kind of like when he did the final atonement, right?
About that....
What made no sense to me is why Vegeta blew himself up when he was too strong for Toppo at the end? He could have easily forced him out the ring. But I felt like the writers wanted that so Vegeta can be weakened and be knocked out the ring before Goku.
Goku , Vegita , C-17 Vs Jiren.
Who Win Jiren So Crazy Powerfull.........❤❤❤❤❤
My favorite episode in all of Super!!!
LETS GOOOOOOOO!! 💪😎💪
Once again Goku is kicked out of the blue. 😂
But it’s a special move. You can’t really be upset about it. He can basically use it anytime he wants
Look who's talking Vegeta!? Come on Baris!!!
Buu sage deij 😂 13:39 return🎉
Big Mistake of God Toppo going after Vegeta. He'd of easily eliminated the much weaker Frieza and 17 if he just stayed fighting them instead since those two couldn't even lay a scratch on him.
13:10 Skip here. 😋
Vote for next part for fast😢😢
i think the final atonement meant less in Dragon Ball Z because Majin Buu wasn't actually killed by in this this it meant more because Final atonement the reason they Toppa was thrown from the ring so to me it was great that they brought it back because they redeemed the move and made Vegeta the S**T when they did it
We need Death Note on the channel bro
You guys always put on a good reaction there
His name is TOP the Destroyer
Just wait until you see jiren in his phoenix form. Even though that's not technically what it is but that's what I'm calling it. 😂
Wait until you see Gohan Beast
Tournament of Power It's plan Fan and Akira Toryama inspiration and Writting
If Frieza can use telekinesis to throw rocks, why can't he use it to throw enemies out of the stage? They can't fly, so this should be easy way to win even with Jiren. Similar with Goku, he could use instant transmission to throw enemies out.
Lightning? SSGSS2? 😂
No where is he a hypocrite you guys should recant that statement in this episode