Ironically the Borgias were considered by other Templars, to be the worst of their members. They didn't care about order or bringing peace from it, they were just selfish and power-hungry.
@@trueegypt6952 Hitler was a Rouge Templar if you play through the Glyphs in AC2 it will tell you this that he used the apple and it basically made him who he was...so in that logic The Borgia's were Rouge Templars as well.
@@trueegypt6952 No hitler is not a templar, he just knew about the order and had people close to him in it. Stauffenberg apparently was a templar or an assassin and tried to take him down.
@@NotRJ001 Not really, Hitler wasn't rouge he just wasn't a member of the templar order. He had ties to them but never become a true member of the order.
@@gustaf3811 Oh kind of like James Cook in assassin's Creed Rogue right? An associate of the Templars who was done work for their order but was never actually ordained into the order or was aware of the true nature of their work.
I always found Cesare the most evil out of all the templars. He just was so crazy and self-absorbed that he didn't even think of other people. I mean he used his sister as a pawn in his schemes. She thought that Cesare and her would be together forever but when he got enraged, he told her how he truly felt which u could tell devastated her. To the point where she sided with Ezio when he entered the room.
Haytham wasn't a problem, it was the people he had working for him that were. When he failed to deliver the goods (The precursor site) his followers stopped believing in him. If Connor didn't kill him then the Templar higher-ups would have.
@Bully Maguire I can't believe in good faith that the nine is that powerful considering they try to tell you that they're the higher echelon of the Templar order, but then they have members like Otso Berg and Daniel Cross in the modern day. Vidic was the only one that made sense as a modern day inner sanctum member.
I just replayed Brotherhood recently, and I agree, Cesare is a pure psychopath. Not sure what Rodrigo was planning in Brotherhood honestly, but I love the amount of respect Rodrigo has towards the assassins after being humbled by Ezio. I was gonna call Rodrigo's respect for the assassins PTSD, but after thinking about it, I think Rodrigo full heartedly respects Ezio after the event of Assassin's Creed 2. As a young man, Ezio unraveled a finely crafted Templar conspiracy. Honestly, being spared by Ezio like Rodrigo was, you'd be insane to not have a sense of respect towards Ezio.
You'd be insane to attempt to control Italia again 💀 I too just finished replaying AC brotherhood. U can clearly see that Rodrigo didnt even care about being evil anymore, he was just being the pope. He had the apple in his possession yet he didnt do anything with it. We had like 2 or 3 cutscenes with him and he didnt do anything evil. "It wasnt my plan to attack monteriggioni, it was yours!". Caesare and his followers were attempting to overthrow him because he didnt want to support their conquest of Italia and Spain
@@mr.pigstashe988 I think he also realized that he wasnt the prophet, but ezio was. Remember is ACII finale, he had the apple on the staff but the door wont open until ezio approached
@@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667 nah...Haytham by far...he's the only Templar that actually practiced what the Templars preached and made the most sense and even shown kindness to people that were concerned a threat until they become more threatful.
Most Templars, particularly Haytham and Shay, were actually able to hold society together when they were in control of it. Cesare wasn't but he was unwilling or unable to respect the people who could and wound up A: killing Rodrigo, the political power behind his army and B: he pissed off Ezio, the single worst thing you could do in early 16th century Italy. The whole game is just him burning the Borgia/Templar power structure to the ground and trying to take everyone else with him. Ezio just sped things up a bit.
One thing I want to point out about Torres. He actually respected the assassin's more than what he respected Edward because Edward represented everything that Torres viewed wrong with the world. He was a greedy narcissistic person who didn't give a damn about anyone but himself and his money. However, when Edward finally joins the assassins at the end of the game and kills Torres. Torres remarks to Edward that he wears his convictions well and that they suit him. It just shows that Torres ultimately ended up respecting the man that Edward would become. At least this version of the man he met believed in something greater than himself which was the complete opposite of the man he met at the start
For shay he was betrayed and most skilled powerful templars next to haythem. shay is one of the greatest templar due to his skill as an assassin and his not evil but he has his own vendetta.
Maybe this could be an idea for the next Video. WHICH ASSASSIN/TEMPLAR HAS THE BEST BODY/PHYSICS. In many(not all) titles of this franchise we can See the Protagonists upper bodies without clothes. Maybe we can rank their overall fitness Based on their looks. And I know characters like Connor are the strongest when we Talk about absolute strength but that doesnt mean he is the strongest when we Talk about relative strength in relation to his weight and size. PS. I Would include Bayek, alexios/cassandra and eivor (male and female).
@@godzillazfriction He did drag an innocent employee who stumbled into the wrong file into that situation though. You can pretend that is an evil all you want, but that's as evil as it gets taking an innocent person and forcing them into your orders conflict because you were too dumb to figure out how to use your own technology.
Ahmet wasn't that evil. Sure, he had his men try to kidnap his nephew Suleiman, but that was only to "rescue" him and improve his chances of being selected as the next sultan. Ahmet cared about Suleiman and hated how their family tore itself apart for the position of sultan. Ahmet wanted to use the contents of Altair's vault to eliminate the differences dividing mankind. While that's a bad thing, his intentions were noble.
Connor would have made a far superior Templar Grand Master then Lee, I will never understand why Haytham wasn't more involved with his life and with the tribe.
Cesare. Where MOST Templars have a noble end game goal. Fighting for the people to reach peace by controlling them. Cesare's goals were self centered and wanted control and power for himself.
Al Mualim he used the assassin's order to gain power over the people he was already a part of ( Templars) that's why the Templars that showed up and said they may spare u but want Al Mualim. Then when altair went after the 9 Master Templars only one remained and the 10th which was Al Mualim and succeeded for a bit. He uses everyone just to be the Master of both he was willing to sacrifice everyone except himself for power.
Cesera is really a underrated character in the AC universe his evil , ruthless , cunning and somehow likable - ish his story anyways 👀 the stuff he did was by far the most darkest but it's only my opinion and his sister 👀
If Achilles had just listened to Shay I don’t think he would’ve left, Shay honestly should’ve been the mentor, and he had good insight, he just needed to have the right direction, it wasn’t the assassins in general, it was just how they functioned, well that’s how the colonial brotherhood was, he probably should’ve just sought help from the other branches of the brotherhood, like the Italian brotherhood, who was the wisest because ezio was the mentor, or maybe the French Brotherhood, as they had more efficient ways of peace
bruh aintnowway you said that the italian brotherhood were the wisest because of ezio... plus ezio isn't even alive in that time period 💀 plus ezio is a horrible assassin and in his older age, he disrespects the dead, mistakenly kills an innocent man that was on his side, ezio never exiled an assassin for killing an innocent person and even killed an assassin that was a traitor that had good intentions, ezio exploding the chains that is connected to a building definitely crushed innocent ppl and starting the greek fire, exploding a whole city underground that suffocated almost every innocent person there as well as those who definitely were burned alive and crushed my building debris and ezio never showed any remorse and you can see this in his killing animations.... hes definitely the most SADISTIC and brutal assassin protagonist from revelations and ppl just forgot about it for some reason... ezio never chose this life, ezio said that the life of an assassin is tragic, despair and suffering. He never understood what the creed actually meant until the end of revelations and embers... ezio was ready to retire at the end of AC 2 or the beginning of brotherhood but that never happened because of what happened to him in brotherhood
@@Red-Ronin551 assassin's throughout the whole series have been shown to be the most chaos and biggest cause of death than the templars... even when assassin's creed was at its black and white mindset with AC2 - Brotherhood, the assassin's still work with prostitutes, thieves and mercenaries and I think ubisoft intended to glorify the assassin's especially ezio to follow up on revelations mostly but also brotherhood elsewell.... AC 2 suffers from very mid writing especially with ezios character arc with it being practically non-existent and it making no sense.... ppl only say that ezio was well written because of the simple change of him being revenge driven but then turning into a wise adult which is simply not true... ezios character growth happens way too quickly and doesn't help thr fact that the game time skips constantly... so by the time ezio is in sequence 5 or 6, he's already a wise not revenge driven adult who explains how much he has grown in that speech in sequence 13 but it ultimately falls flat because ezio remained the same as he was since sequence 4 or 6.... and he explains how his ppl aka the assassin's showed him the path of vengeance isnt right even though thats not true because they always wanted him to kill templars and trained him to do so... even the girl that got betrayed just like ezio gave ezios the abilitied to aid him against templars... also ezio never makes any mistakes except for disrespecting francescos son but it was over so quickly that it didn't even matter and because ezio himself hangs francesco brutally and has the music to show that this was cruel but it is never mentioned and never has any reprocussions for that action that ezio did, ubisoft hinted at making ezio somewhat grey with that snippet of him hanging francesco and the cinematic trailer where the templar seems like somewhat of a decent person as well as the guards but ubisoft just decided to not do that and instead abandon what they had from the 1st game where everything was morally grey and you couldn't decide which sides were right... now ezio vs the borgia is basically just like tlou2 but somewhat worse and I love how everyone praised this but not TLOU2, however ubisoft did fix ezios character in brotherhood and in revelations and using his character to reflect on how he was in AC 2 where machiavelli just said that ezio was a prophet even though ezio never really was able to cope with it as well as retiring after dealing with rodrigo borgia but all that changes where his city gets attacked and is done with this shit
he was a good person with good intentions and even his methods aren't even extreme compared to other templars like in AC1 who have good intentions but some of their methods in doing so were extreme like the old nurse templar who wanted to help his 'children' aka mentally unstable ppl and did help the mentally unstable where they would say that, he has saved many ppl and the templar also had the piece of eden to create a cure until the assassin's took it and when you kill him, the mentally unstable go out back into the streets and sewers where he first found them and you can see this in gameplay with the world changing as you kill a specific target that has an affect on the world
@@godzillazfriction It’s always a case of the Templar followers and anyone below the Grandmaster is corrupt as hell. Meanwhile, grandmasters like Torres and Haytham were good fellows with, as you stated, good intentions. Reminds me of Joseph Seed from Far Cry 5 and New Dawn.
@@shanedawndusk3290 what.... sure there will be corrupt templars and assassin's but not everyone under the templar grandmaster are going to be corrupted
So, wanna learn something interesting ive learned? When you play as Shay during his time as an Assassin, if you kill civilians, the Animus threatens desync and says "Shay did not kill civilians", like all the others, of course. But when he becomes a templar, not only can he kill people, but he can straight up Hidden Blade Assassinate a whole crowd of people, and the Animus won't say anything. This means, canonically, Shay killed innocent civilians at least once during his templar years.
Madj Adin. Power mad, driven by a lust for that and enjoys playing with people's lives and crushing their wills. Perfect embodiment of what the Templars need to achieve their goals in their characteristic destructive ways.
Only a minor character, but I always considered Marco Barbarigo the most evil templar. To get the wife of his best friend, he had his friend lobotomized and made him to serve him as his brain-dead bodyguard for the rest of his life.
Hey i have a suggestion for a video, how about who's the assasin with the most kills?(main targets not sidequests) I posted this before just hoping you see it!!
I think it'd be Ezio without a doubt. Ezio had 3 games, so he probably had 3 times the amount of targets any other assassin had. The only protagonists who might stand a chance of topping the amount of targets Ezio has wouldn't technically be an assassin. That would be a Viking, and they aren't counted in these videos I think since they're not assassins
@@NeowGaming2 Fair point. Altair probably did have more targets. But I meant confirmed targets that are shown in the games. Ezio had more games, so he's at an unfair advantage when it comes to having more confirmed targets.
Easily Rodrigo is definitely not the most evil because of the statement that you made.. Once he was humbled by ezio he basically just did his papal duties.... You could even question if he was even a Templar anymore
While i still would not say that say is evil, the fact that you can just kill civilian without a thought and its not an animus glitch says a lot about what he is becoming.
I got to disagree on this. Cesare shows some personality in the Monteriggioni cutscene - there he’s actually fu**ing EVIL - but in the rest of the game? He’s basically “generic boastful dictator 101”. He can’t even be defined a Templar, he’s just a petulant child who wants to do better than his daddy. If the choice was restricted to the Renaissance era, my vote would rather go to the Barbarigos, who are actual evil human beings, rather than semi-caricatures. But, since we’re NOT restricted to the Renaissance era… …no, my vote goes to Reginald Birch. He’s not the main antagonist of any of the games, but who could be defined as the most evil Templar if not the guy who orchestrated Edward Kenway’s murder, groomed Haytham Kenway as a Templar, AND sold Jennifer Scott/Kenway into twenty years of slavery with the Ottomans? You know, the cute little girl we all fell in love with at the end of Black Flag? Yeah, her life was Hell because of Birch. All, by the way, after he had posed as a loyal friend of the family for years. And, unlike Uberto Alberti, who did something similar to Ezio’s family, good old Reg wasn’t manipulated or pressed into committing the deed. HE was in charge of the whole plan. And he totally kept believing he had done the right and morally justifiable thing until the very end. Like, this monster alone is the main reason why the Kenways can easily rival the Skywalkers in terms of how messed up their family history is.
@@godzillazfriction “We all fell in love” as in “We all felt the affection that Edward, our playable character for all the game’s runtime and Jenny’s father, felt for her in the ending scene”. Given that Jenny represents his loving and caring side finally beating his greedy and egotistical side. Really, wtf man.
I think the latest "Spider-Man" movie is going to re-spark some of the Templar-Assassins discussions. That said, evil is often a mere point of view, only sometimes an undeniable reality. Who here is a Templar and agrees with Miguel ? Come my brothers. Let the Father of Understanding guide us the Light ! Once Miles fails or accomplishes different results, the Assassins will finally see the realization all Templars are birthed from !
Was Cesare a Templar though? He acted solely out of selfish interest, he had no fellow Templars which weren't family, that's why Rodrigo tried to poison him because he became a liability for the Templar order
The Templar I hate the most was Warren Vidic. For turning Lucy and been responsible for the "Great Purge". 😡 If I had the piece of eden, I would use it to bring him back so I could kill him again.
Hey, wait a minute. Why isn’t Al Mualim considered a Templar? He shares many of the ideas of them. Or a better question, who is the most violent Templar?
Wasn't Al-Mualim technically a templar who betrayed the others? I think he has a case. He betrayed the templars, the assassins, Altair, and tried to use the apple toward his own ends. The only reason you have a chance to fight him is because he couldn't just turn you into a meat puppet like the rest of the town. Robert de Sable didn't seem evil, but maybe a bit ruthless with good intentions. Rodrigo Borgia chilled out after Ezio humbled him and began focusing on stabilizing his realm, a legitimately good rulership quality. Too little too late, but at least he tried. Cesare isn't as stupid as he comes off as. He is cunning but that gets undermined by his lack of diligince and attention. He's a rat-bastard to the end. The revelations templar kind of slips my mind but I think he was just generically power-mad. Torres seems to be a bit of a visionary fighting agaist philosophical enemies in the assassins (who honestly seem to think the same things as him and just dont like his order,) as well as long-standing and widespread cultural ideas that large chunks of the people with any say had a vested interest in keeping intact. Haytham seems to mostly work towards stability, even if he's ruthless about it. Shay seems to just not want to set off weapons of mass destruction in the middle of populated cities and you can't fault him for that. Never played unity. Starrick seems like he went power-mad after reaching the top, despite starting with good but poorly thought out intentions.
@@theGazzer no... the colonial brotherhood aren't even close to being the most evil or corrupted brotherhood... that goes to Assassin's creed 1s brotherhood and other honourable mentions like older ezio aka revelations ezio in which the assassin brotherhood are just misguided but ezio is the one pulling the strings to the brotherhood... mackandals brotherhood were very corrupt and the same with unitys, the only decent brotherhoods are ac4s/freedom crys, syndicates brother although Jack the rippers mental state got worst when joining the brotherhood and is why hes killing all the time
Cesare and Charles Lee would be my choices. Both seemed to go out their way to be horrible, Cesare would have the slight edge. Crawford Starick could've been that, as a ruthless capitalist, a lot of those guys were awful to the people that worked for them, and he really was just made to be bad. Problem with him, we don't see him enough to get to know him and he is just bland overall.
If Cesare Borgia's relationship with his sister, Lucrezia, isn't enough to paint him as the most evil Templar, then I don't know what to tell you. Lol Of course, jokes aside, Cesare definitely takes the top spot for me. Out of all the Templars, he was easily the most power-hungry and lusting for control and tyranny. He's basically a lesser version of Palpatine in that regard.
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Lucretia: “What shall we do, Cesare?”
Cesare: “As usual, Lucretia, take over the world!”
This makes Lucretia Pinky, and Cesare, the Brain. Cesare is definitely not the Brain.
Lucrezia*
Ironically the Borgias were considered by other Templars, to be the worst of their members. They didn't care about order or bringing peace from it, they were just selfish and power-hungry.
@@trueegypt6952 is that really thing?
@@trueegypt6952 Hitler was a Rouge Templar if you play through the Glyphs in AC2 it will tell you this that he used the apple and it basically made him who he was...so in that logic The Borgia's were Rouge Templars as well.
@@trueegypt6952 No hitler is not a templar, he just knew about the order and had people close to him in it.
Stauffenberg apparently was a templar or an assassin and tried to take him down.
@@NotRJ001 Not really, Hitler wasn't rouge he just wasn't a member of the templar order. He had ties to them but never become a true member of the order.
@@gustaf3811 Oh kind of like James Cook in assassin's Creed Rogue right? An associate of the Templars who was done work for their order but was never actually ordained into the order or was aware of the true nature of their work.
I kinda thought of both Cesare and Lucretia as the Templar’s Joker and Harley Quinn.
I love that comparison! Except at least The Joker and Harley weren't related😂
@@masterassassin791 💀💀💀
@@masterassassin791surely there’s a fanfic out there where they are
I saw them as Jaime and cersei lannister
Nah, harly and jokers way more toxic
I always found Cesare the most evil out of all the templars. He just was so crazy and self-absorbed that he didn't even think of other people. I mean he used his sister as a pawn in his schemes. She thought that Cesare and her would be together forever but when he got enraged, he told her how he truly felt which u could tell devastated her. To the point where she sided with Ezio when he entered the room.
Dont forget that cesare also killed his brother for power. He killed 2 of his family members for power. What a psychopath.
Haytham wasn't a problem, it was the people he had working for him that were. When he failed to deliver the goods (The precursor site) his followers stopped believing in him. If Connor didn't kill him then the Templar higher-ups would have.
It seems like that
@Captain Jack Sparrow There is always a bigger fish.
@Bully Maguire haytham knows what he was doing and knows what charles was doing
@Bully Maguire I can't believe in good faith that the nine is that powerful considering they try to tell you that they're the higher echelon of the Templar order, but then they have members like Otso Berg and Daniel Cross in the modern day. Vidic was the only one that made sense as a modern day inner sanctum member.
@Captain Jack Sparrow Birch was until Haytham got revenge.
I just replayed Brotherhood recently, and I agree, Cesare is a pure psychopath. Not sure what Rodrigo was planning in Brotherhood honestly, but I love the amount of respect Rodrigo has towards the assassins after being humbled by Ezio. I was gonna call Rodrigo's respect for the assassins PTSD, but after thinking about it, I think Rodrigo full heartedly respects Ezio after the event of Assassin's Creed 2. As a young man, Ezio unraveled a finely crafted Templar conspiracy. Honestly, being spared by Ezio like Rodrigo was, you'd be insane to not have a sense of respect towards Ezio.
You'd be insane to attempt to control Italia again 💀 I too just finished replaying AC brotherhood. U can clearly see that Rodrigo didnt even care about being evil anymore, he was just being the pope. He had the apple in his possession yet he didnt do anything with it. We had like 2 or 3 cutscenes with him and he didnt do anything evil. "It wasnt my plan to attack monteriggioni, it was yours!". Caesare and his followers were attempting to overthrow him because he didnt want to support their conquest of Italia and Spain
@@mrxerxes7947 that. But I also think Rodrigo had a sense of respect for Ezio after AC2
@@mr.pigstashe988 I think he also realized that he wasnt the prophet, but ezio was. Remember is ACII finale, he had the apple on the staff but the door wont open until ezio approached
uhhhh how about rodrigo molesting his daughter while she was a child
After what happened in AC2 Rodriguo was trying to simply maintain the amount of control he had left and to not provoke Ezio.
It should be noted about Lee that he did manipulate Connor’s best friend into trying to kill him which is a quite evil act.
I'd love to see ,,who is the kindest templar"
Shay
That one's easy. Shay Cormac clearly takes the win on that list.
Shay. But ranking the rest could be fun.
@@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667 nah...Haytham by far...he's the only Templar that actually practiced what the Templars preached and made the most sense and even shown kindness to people that were concerned a threat until they become more threatful.
Haytham too
When he started to talk about prince Ahmet I was just like, Who? Then I was like oh yeah.
When you look at Cesare, he's like a mediaeval version of the Joker, just all out violent, insane and all out lust for power
I would say Cesare
Cesare being so evil is completely historically accurate.
Most Templars, particularly Haytham and Shay, were actually able to hold society together when they were in control of it. Cesare wasn't but he was unwilling or unable to respect the people who could and wound up A: killing Rodrigo, the political power behind his army and B: he pissed off Ezio, the single worst thing you could do in early 16th century Italy.
The whole game is just him burning the Borgia/Templar power structure to the ground and trying to take everyone else with him. Ezio just sped things up a bit.
Rodrigo literally did horrible things to his own daughter when she was a child. Can't get more evil than that
ye the borgia family itself should just be categorised by its entirety
One thing I want to point out about Torres. He actually respected the assassin's more than what he respected Edward because Edward represented everything that Torres viewed wrong with the world. He was a greedy narcissistic person who didn't give a damn about anyone but himself and his money. However, when Edward finally joins the assassins at the end of the game and kills Torres. Torres remarks to Edward that he wears his convictions well and that they suit him.
It just shows that Torres ultimately ended up respecting the man that Edward would become. At least this version of the man he met believed in something greater than himself which was the complete opposite of the man he met at the start
Can't wait for the best equipped assassin video
Shay and Haytham are my favorite Templars.
For shay he was betrayed and most skilled powerful templars next to haythem. shay is one of the greatest templar due to his skill as an assassin and his not evil but he has his own vendetta.
A video idea "who is the better assassin's mentor in ac games"
In which you would compare who would be the better mentor of the brother hood
Agreed, since almost every Assassins become mentor in their own country. But i think Altair and Ezio will have the top spot
Reginald Birch is definitely a templar that deserves to have a honorable mention on this videos, considering the ruthless schemer he was.
I agree, considering what he did to a ten year old boy and his father, mother and sister!
Keep up the great work!
Maybe this could be an idea for the next Video. WHICH ASSASSIN/TEMPLAR HAS THE BEST BODY/PHYSICS. In many(not all) titles of this franchise we can See the Protagonists upper bodies without clothes. Maybe we can rank their overall fitness Based on their looks. And I know characters like Connor are the strongest when we Talk about absolute strength but that doesnt mean he is the strongest when we Talk about relative strength in relation to his weight and size. PS. I Would include Bayek, alexios/cassandra and eivor (male and female).
Love your video man and I love these games
Otso Berg is the most evil Templar. After I finished rogue, he threatened to kill me if I didn't join the Templar cause.
Int he comics he isn’t that bad
wow he threatened to kill you if you denied because you were so far into the conflict... he's sooo evil... ye no
@@godzillazfriction He did drag an innocent employee who stumbled into the wrong file into that situation though. You can pretend that is an evil all you want, but that's as evil as it gets taking an innocent person and forcing them into your orders conflict because you were too dumb to figure out how to use your own technology.
@@jamtime4978 well too bad
I would say the top 3 in my opinion are Cesare Borgia, Charles Lee and Flavius Metellus (The main antagonist from Assassin's Creed Origins.)
Haytham Is my fav Templar.
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For Valentines day you should do most attractive assassin 😏🤣
And Templar two video would be good
That's easily Ezio or Arno
@@RedEverything Kenway
Kenway looks like heath ledger to me
the borgias were a pretty screwed up family even in actual history, and especially cesare so it adds up why hes the most evil
Haytham was also groomed to be a Templar from a young age by a rival of Edward
Nice video 👍
Ahmet wasn't that evil. Sure, he had his men try to kidnap his nephew Suleiman, but that was only to "rescue" him and improve his chances of being selected as the next sultan. Ahmet cared about Suleiman and hated how their family tore itself apart for the position of sultan. Ahmet wanted to use the contents of Altair's vault to eliminate the differences dividing mankind. While that's a bad thing, his intentions were noble.
Please make video on most extrovert to most introvert Assassins in franchise
Connor would have made a far superior Templar Grand Master then Lee, I will never understand why Haytham wasn't more involved with his life and with the tribe.
i agree that shay and haytham are by no means as bad as the others and shay doesnt come across badly at all
Makes me sad the new games dont contribute to this video with their own templars, cause there aren't any, how far we've fallen
I was praying on Cesare's downfall throughout the entirety of Brotherhood. He's the kind of villian you just love to hate.
Cesare. Where MOST Templars have a noble end game goal. Fighting for the people to reach peace by controlling them. Cesare's goals were self centered and wanted control and power for himself.
I don't mind spoilers I like how stuff play out
Always felt like Shahkulu was more evil than Ahmed
Al Mualim he used the assassin's order to gain power over the people he was already a part of ( Templars) that's why the Templars that showed up and said they may spare u but want Al Mualim. Then when altair went after the 9 Master Templars only one remained and the 10th which was Al Mualim and succeeded for a bit. He uses everyone just to be the Master of both he was willing to sacrifice everyone except himself for power.
How about a video about the best assassin's creed weapon besides the hidden blade?
Cesare, he forced Leonardo to build those war machines which i had to destroy with Ezio :)) Which were a pain in the *** to 100% sync :)) .
How about doing a “who’s the most pure hearted assassin”
Cesera is really a underrated character in the AC universe his evil , ruthless , cunning and somehow likable - ish his story anyways 👀 the stuff he did was by far the most darkest but it's only my opinion and his sister 👀
If Achilles had just listened to Shay I don’t think he would’ve left, Shay honestly should’ve been the mentor, and he had good insight, he just needed to have the right direction, it wasn’t the assassins in general, it was just how they functioned, well that’s how the colonial brotherhood was, he probably should’ve just sought help from the other branches of the brotherhood, like the Italian brotherhood, who was the wisest because ezio was the mentor, or maybe the French Brotherhood, as they had more efficient ways of peace
bruh aintnowway you said that the italian brotherhood were the wisest because of ezio... plus ezio isn't even alive in that time period 💀 plus ezio is a horrible assassin and in his older age, he disrespects the dead, mistakenly kills an innocent man that was on his side, ezio never exiled an assassin for killing an innocent person and even killed an assassin that was a traitor that had good intentions, ezio exploding the chains that is connected to a building definitely crushed innocent ppl and starting the greek fire, exploding a whole city underground that suffocated almost every innocent person there as well as those who definitely were burned alive and crushed my building debris and ezio never showed any remorse and you can see this in his killing animations.... hes definitely the most SADISTIC and brutal assassin protagonist from revelations and ppl just forgot about it for some reason... ezio never chose this life, ezio said that the life of an assassin is tragic, despair and suffering. He never understood what the creed actually meant until the end of revelations and embers... ezio was ready to retire at the end of AC 2 or the beginning of brotherhood but that never happened because of what happened to him in brotherhood
@@godzillazfriction he’s actually a very wise man, and I know he’s dead I’m just saying that they took after Ezio
@@Red-Ronin551 sure ezio is wise but does that make hima good person especially with the things that I've mentioned
@@Red-Ronin551 assassin's throughout the whole series have been shown to be the most chaos and biggest cause of death than the templars... even when assassin's creed was at its black and white mindset with AC2 - Brotherhood, the assassin's still work with prostitutes, thieves and mercenaries and I think ubisoft intended to glorify the assassin's especially ezio to follow up on revelations mostly but also brotherhood elsewell.... AC 2 suffers from very mid writing especially with ezios character arc with it being practically non-existent and it making no sense.... ppl only say that ezio was well written because of the simple change of him being revenge driven but then turning into a wise adult which is simply not true... ezios character growth happens way too quickly and doesn't help thr fact that the game time skips constantly... so by the time ezio is in sequence 5 or 6, he's already a wise not revenge driven adult who explains how much he has grown in that speech in sequence 13 but it ultimately falls flat because ezio remained the same as he was since sequence 4 or 6.... and he explains how his ppl aka the assassin's showed him the path of vengeance isnt right even though thats not true because they always wanted him to kill templars and trained him to do so... even the girl that got betrayed just like ezio gave ezios the abilitied to aid him against templars... also ezio never makes any mistakes except for disrespecting francescos son but it was over so quickly that it didn't even matter and because ezio himself hangs francesco brutally and has the music to show that this was cruel but it is never mentioned and never has any reprocussions for that action that ezio did, ubisoft hinted at making ezio somewhat grey with that snippet of him hanging francesco and the cinematic trailer where the templar seems like somewhat of a decent person as well as the guards but ubisoft just decided to not do that and instead abandon what they had from the 1st game where everything was morally grey and you couldn't decide which sides were right... now ezio vs the borgia is basically just like tlou2 but somewhat worse and I love how everyone praised this but not TLOU2, however ubisoft did fix ezios character in brotherhood and in revelations and using his character to reflect on how he was in AC 2 where machiavelli just said that ezio was a prophet even though ezio never really was able to cope with it as well as retiring after dealing with rodrigo borgia but all that changes where his city gets attacked and is done with this shit
at the end the templars arent evil they just do good stuff the wrong way
Torres could’ve been a really good character, had they built him up better. I thought he was a cool character, let alone a cool Templar.
he was a good person with good intentions and even his methods aren't even extreme compared to other templars like in AC1 who have good intentions but some of their methods in doing so were extreme like the old nurse templar who wanted to help his 'children' aka mentally unstable ppl and did help the mentally unstable where they would say that, he has saved many ppl and the templar also had the piece of eden to create a cure until the assassin's took it and when you kill him, the mentally unstable go out back into the streets and sewers where he first found them and you can see this in gameplay with the world changing as you kill a specific target that has an affect on the world
@@godzillazfriction It’s always a case of the Templar followers and anyone below the Grandmaster is corrupt as hell. Meanwhile, grandmasters like Torres and Haytham were good fellows with, as you stated, good intentions. Reminds me of Joseph Seed from Far Cry 5 and New Dawn.
@@shanedawndusk3290 what.... sure there will be corrupt templars and assassin's but not everyone under the templar grandmaster are going to be corrupted
Which character is the most believable/realistic? Which game is the most historically accurate?
You should review Batman Arkham Knight next to complete the batman games.
So, wanna learn something interesting ive learned?
When you play as Shay during his time as an Assassin, if you kill civilians, the Animus threatens desync and says "Shay did not kill civilians", like all the others, of course.
But when he becomes a templar, not only can he kill people, but he can straight up Hidden Blade Assassinate a whole crowd of people, and the Animus won't say anything. This means, canonically, Shay killed innocent civilians at least once during his templar years.
Madj Adin. Power mad, driven by a lust for that and enjoys playing with people's lives and crushing their wills. Perfect embodiment of what the Templars need to achieve their goals in their characteristic destructive ways.
Take a shot every time a "give me Lee" pops up
It's a real shame there wasn't a out and out haythem game, if rogue had followed his time I'd have had to play it
The only AC title I haven’t touched is Rogue. Might be time to finally change that
Without even watching the video I already know the answer is undoubtedly Cesare.
Only a minor character, but I always considered Marco Barbarigo the most evil templar. To get the wife of his best friend, he had his friend lobotomized and made him to serve him as his brain-dead bodyguard for the rest of his life.
The only reason it could possibly _not_ be Cesare, is because he's so clearly fucking _insane_ that an insanity excuse might exist.
Who is excited about mirage? I’m pumped about it fr
tbh what makes cesare so evil is the va for him. he sounds like a cartoonishly evil villain
Hey i have a suggestion for a video, how about who's the assasin with the most kills?(main targets not sidequests)
I posted this before just hoping you see it!!
It comes down to Connor or ezio but I'd love to see a video on that
I think it'd be Ezio without a doubt. Ezio had 3 games, so he probably had 3 times the amount of targets any other assassin had. The only protagonists who might stand a chance of topping the amount of targets Ezio has wouldn't technically be an assassin. That would be a Viking, and they aren't counted in these videos I think since they're not assassins
@@mr.pigstashe988 altair was an assasin from birth to death, so ezio to altair
@@NeowGaming2 Fair point. Altair probably did have more targets. But I meant confirmed targets that are shown in the games. Ezio had more games, so he's at an unfair advantage when it comes to having more confirmed targets.
Easily Rodrigo is definitely not the most evil because of the statement that you made.. Once he was humbled by ezio he basically just did his papal duties.... You could even question if he was even a Templar anymore
Coud you explore the alternative Ending of Assassin's Creed 1 what if Al mualim killed Altair
I have taken to calling Robert de Sable Bob from Accounting
While i still would not say that say is evil, the fact that you can just kill civilian without a thought and its not an animus glitch says a lot about what he is becoming.
I don't think Connor chased after Lee because of the burning of his mom and village but because Lee turned Connor best friend against him.
Did you guys know that hitler was a Templer?
I got to disagree on this. Cesare shows some personality in the Monteriggioni cutscene - there he’s actually fu**ing EVIL - but in the rest of the game? He’s basically “generic boastful dictator 101”. He can’t even be defined a Templar, he’s just a petulant child who wants to do better than his daddy. If the choice was restricted to the Renaissance era, my vote would rather go to the Barbarigos, who are actual evil human beings, rather than semi-caricatures. But, since we’re NOT restricted to the Renaissance era…
…no, my vote goes to Reginald Birch. He’s not the main antagonist of any of the games, but who could be defined as the most evil Templar if not the guy who orchestrated Edward Kenway’s murder, groomed Haytham Kenway as a Templar, AND sold Jennifer Scott/Kenway into twenty years of slavery with the Ottomans? You know, the cute little girl we all fell in love with at the end of Black Flag? Yeah, her life was Hell because of Birch. All, by the way, after he had posed as a loyal friend of the family for years. And, unlike Uberto Alberti, who did something similar to Ezio’s family, good old Reg wasn’t manipulated or pressed into committing the deed. HE was in charge of the whole plan. And he totally kept believing he had done the right and morally justifiable thing until the very end. Like, this monster alone is the main reason why the Kenways can easily rival the Skywalkers in terms of how messed up their family history is.
ummmmmm i didn't love the little girl at the end of black flag.... looks like i found one of you
@@godzillazfriction “We all fell in love” as in “We all felt the affection that Edward, our playable character for all the game’s runtime and Jenny’s father, felt for her in the ending scene”. Given that Jenny represents his loving and caring side finally beating his greedy and egotistical side.
Really, wtf man.
4:43 This is the main reason why Leee is the most evil templar. And the strongest
I think Braddock is worth a dishonorable mention. My guy wiped out 3 Native American tribes and probably would have killed a TON more.
Cesare because he destroyed our montregionni and buried Armor of Altair to be never found again
You should do who has the best assassin outfit
You forget to mention Bartholomew Roberts from black flag...
I think the latest "Spider-Man" movie is going to re-spark some of the Templar-Assassins discussions.
That said, evil is often a mere point of view, only sometimes an undeniable reality. Who here is a Templar and agrees with Miguel ? Come my brothers. Let the Father of Understanding guide us the Light ! Once Miles fails or accomplishes different results, the Assassins will finally see the realization all Templars are birthed from !
You have Cesare on first place and than you have 5 empty spaces behind him
I have a suggestion who is the most durable assassin and another one for the templars
Was Cesare a Templar though?
He acted solely out of selfish interest, he had no fellow Templars which weren't family, that's why Rodrigo tried to poison him because he became a liability for the Templar order
The Templar I hate the most was Warren Vidic. For turning Lucy and been responsible for the "Great Purge".
😡 If I had the piece of eden, I would use it to bring him back so I could kill him again.
Hey, wait a minute. Why isn’t Al Mualim considered a Templar? He shares many of the ideas of them.
Or a better question, who is the most violent Templar?
Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling. Makes no difference
Not really, evil have levels
Wasn't Al-Mualim technically a templar who betrayed the others? I think he has a case. He betrayed the templars, the assassins, Altair, and tried to use the apple toward his own ends. The only reason you have a chance to fight him is because he couldn't just turn you into a meat puppet like the rest of the town.
Robert de Sable didn't seem evil, but maybe a bit ruthless with good intentions.
Rodrigo Borgia chilled out after Ezio humbled him and began focusing on stabilizing his realm, a legitimately good rulership quality. Too little too late, but at least he tried.
Cesare isn't as stupid as he comes off as. He is cunning but that gets undermined by his lack of diligince and attention. He's a rat-bastard to the end.
The revelations templar kind of slips my mind but I think he was just generically power-mad.
Torres seems to be a bit of a visionary fighting agaist philosophical enemies in the assassins (who honestly seem to think the same things as him and just dont like his order,) as well as long-standing and widespread cultural ideas that large chunks of the people with any say had a vested interest in keeping intact.
Haytham seems to mostly work towards stability, even if he's ruthless about it.
Shay seems to just not want to set off weapons of mass destruction in the middle of populated cities and you can't fault him for that.
Never played unity.
Starrick seems like he went power-mad after reaching the top, despite starting with good but poorly thought out intentions.
If anything I feel like shay is just as kind if not kinder than some of the assassins we’ve seen so far if you ask me
the entire reason he joined the templars was because he witnessed the most evil version of the assassins so yh
@@theGazzer no... the colonial brotherhood aren't even close to being the most evil or corrupted brotherhood... that goes to Assassin's creed 1s brotherhood and other honourable mentions like older ezio aka revelations ezio in which the assassin brotherhood are just misguided but ezio is the one pulling the strings to the brotherhood... mackandals brotherhood were very corrupt and the same with unitys, the only decent brotherhoods are ac4s/freedom crys, syndicates brother although Jack the rippers mental state got worst when joining the brotherhood and is why hes killing all the time
Can you do best opening and or ending to assassin's creed games
I have an urge to comment every time
Also Rodrigo thought he was doin a good thing by being the prophet unlike his son
GIVE ME LEE!
Cesare and Charles Lee would be my choices. Both seemed to go out their way to be horrible, Cesare would have the slight edge.
Crawford Starick could've been that, as a ruthless capitalist, a lot of those guys were awful to the people that worked for them, and he really was just made to be bad. Problem with him, we don't see him enough to get to know him and he is just bland overall.
Does The Unity co-op work anymore
Edward Braddock.
That's a good one
If Cesare Borgia's relationship with his sister, Lucrezia, isn't enough to paint him as the most evil Templar, then I don't know what to tell you. Lol
Of course, jokes aside, Cesare definitely takes the top spot for me. Out of all the Templars, he was easily the most power-hungry and lusting for control and tyranny. He's basically a lesser version of Palpatine in that regard.
wait until you hear about when rodrigo borgia molested his daughter when she was a child
Cesare had...issues
Will you do black flag but when the video ends you end the video please.
Master assassin can you please do shay vs Conner I know assassin’s only and Templar only but please do I make my own luck vs give me lee
TBH I say SHAY, Cause if we play as him, we can go on a Killing spree.
Tht innocent killing spree was caused by animus glitch, its not canon he kill everyone as much as he wants bro
@@erencormac3130 No, I mean In general. As soon as he becomes a Templar, he can kill anyone.
Either of the Borgias
Who wins a fight 1v1 Haytan or Shay?
My favorite is Crawford.
Mafia review please make video
Who's the most beautiful Assassin Templar