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Balkan stereotypes are stupid (and dangerous)
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- When someone says the word “Balkan”, these are probably some of the things that the average person would associate with this rather mystical part of the world. With the turn of the century, the fall of communism and the barbaric bloodshed of the Yugoslav wars, the area of southeastern Europe has steadily acquired a refined new identity, an image that was intensely developed and promoted as time went on.
This very image has, through the expanding pop culture and internet meme culture, reached quite incredible notoriety, so that “Balkan” is nowadays, among natives and foreigners alike, the prime embodiment of oriental barbarism, craziness and hot temperament that is unique to this part of the world.
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►Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
3:18 Part 1 - Orientalism
6:44 Part 2 - The Balkan™ brand
14:46 Part 3 - Spectacle and fetishization
15:58 Part 4 - The reaction
21:00 Part 5 - Emancipatory potential
The King of Serbia doesn't speak the local language? So basically, a typical European monarch.
That actually makes so much point for example the king vidi of albania i believe only spoke german
Most Monarchs nowadays speak the local language I'd say.
@Linux user Queen Elizabeth speaks Englsih, the King of the Netherlands speaks Dutch, the monarchs of Denmark, Sweden and Norway speak their respective languages, the King of Belgium and the Grand Duke of Luxembourg both speak French, etc. etc.
@Linux user he speaks Dutch (Flemish) fluently as well, albeit with a slight accent. His children even attend school in Dutch.
We had a Queen in Greece, later Queen-Mother, Friederika, imposed by the West against the Communists, who was in the Hitler Youth. Obviously German. The Glieksburg line were Danes, and previously, King Otto, was Bavarian.
Personally I think that the saddest part of all of this is the fact that us, Balkan people, have accepted these stereotypes. It's unsettling to see that some people that I've met who are my age, born in later 2000s, think in that way. I also appreciate you mentioning the Nixa Zizu thing, as it seems to be forgotten lately.
Much respect, mate. I'm glad to see that there are people who think like this.
"Born in late 2000s"
And I tought only us 90s kids were screwed by these stereotypes. God fking damn it!
Please, younger folks, be better then us! You own it to yourselves!
Fuck Nixa Zizu man
@@dario8728 who is that
@@blertamitro211 He's a blatantly sexist, stupid youtuber, that, coincidentally scams kids and
teenagers. He was the one in the video to say that it is women's fault for being raped, and if they wear any clothes that could be considered sexual, they have already sealed their fate or some stupid theories like that. He promotes some weird version of balkan masculinity. In general a stupid guy.
Wikipedia: Finland: Sexual violence: Perpetrators: wow.
BBC Sweden 58% foreinger.
Ukrainian 18 year old Germany.
Taharrush gamea.
Marocchinate.
New years eve Colonge Germany.
Rotherham scandal.
Manchester scandal.
Rochdale scandal.
West Yorkshire scandal.
Newcastle scandal.
Oxford scandal.
Bradford scandal.
Telford scandal.
Aylesbury scandal.
Huddersfield scandal.
Zabihullah Mohmand Montana.
Fort McCoy Afghans.
Somali sweden 9 years old.
Skaf gang australia.
Simon Mol.
Oulu scandal.
Tapanila somali.
Glasgow grooming gang.
Ross Parker.
Kriss Donald.
Lara Logan Egypt.
Temar Bishop.
Morocco beheading.
Greece Ahmed Waqas.
Love and support to the message of this video. The balkans isnt a place needing help from the west, it needs help because of the west
We need money
@@blertamitro211 we need free things, it’s pointless to have money and buy basically nothing of value
Eh, the SOVIET UNION didn't do the balkans many favors either unless you bent over for stalin. Even then, you might not get out without a few hunger pains.
@@n8zog584 i really dont know how to respond to this one, being anti American means that i agree with the horrors of stalins (lets be honest kruscev was way worse) . But than again it just makes the west seem like a paradise when till the 60s-70s they treated black Americans in an even worse fate. The fact of the matter is that eastern europe went from being bombed to oblivion to basically being rebuilt because of the soviets. The balkans had to mostly cooperate, Yugoslavia, Albania and Bulgaria to a high level managed that with no issue
@@Omesh1 I can understand that, America isn't exactly a gleaming monument to the world like some would have us believe, but the good both the SSR and the USA have offered is admirable. The downsides were deplorable. But I think it is just a shame that there isn't a system that incorporates the best of both worlds, learning from the mistakes of each.
The issue here is in modern day, any communist revolution could be exploited heavily by those seeking to gain power. On the other hand any American reform comes slowly, with intense pushback from powerful people.
The Croatian fascists desperately trying not to be Slavs reminds me of the Japanese doctrine of superiority over other Asians on the basis that they were actually "honorable Aryans", despite sharing so much more history and cultural traits with Korea, China and Vietnam than with the west
I myself am of mixed origin, Serbian and Croatian. I grew up listening to propaganda from both sides and found it insane how both sides were at eachothers throats but shared the same culture and societal norms. This video confirmed my belief.
I think most of the nationalism in the balkans is due to indoctrination of the younger population. I had friends that were super nationalists even if they were born after the wars. Truly insane stuff to which I cannot see a way out for them.
With my voting right and trying to educate and raise further generations better is giving me hope.
Thank you for this video.
yeah ive noticed that 2 luckily even though my dad experienced it he taught me to never hate a person because of what their parents or ancestors did because you would just put "fuel" to a incomming fire (meaning the person could become a nationalist in some way)
@@KenjiBiH yeah, I got burned multiple times by it. Sincerly being called an ustaša and četnik just because of my origins hurt me a lot in my formative years.
This is literal pro serb propaganda this man has lied on literally every single video of his i habe seen ?
@@okloshbrokla8154 cope
Minimum replacement birth rate: 2.1
EU birth rate: 1.53
Canada birth rate: 1.47
USA birth rate: 1.70
Russia birth rate: 1.50
Ukraine birth rate: 1.23
Australia birth rate: 1.66
Israel birth rate: 3.00
In Orientalism segment, in part where you mentioned Nazis reminds me of this quote:
"Yes, it would be worthwhile to study clinically, in detail, the steps taken by Hitler and Hitlerism and to reveal to the very distinguished, very humanistic, very Christian bourgeois of the twentieth century that without his being aware of it, he has a Hitler inside him, that Hitler inhabits him, that Hitler is his demon, that if he rails against him, he is being inconsistent and that, at bottom, what he cannot forgive Hitler for is not crime in itself, the crime against man, it is not the humiliation of man as such, it is the crime against the white man, the humiliation of the white man, and the fact that he applied to Europe colonialist procedures which until then had been reserved exclusively for the Arabs of Algeria, the coolies of India, and the blacks of Africa."
-Aime Cesaire, Discourse on Colonialism
African slave owners
Arab slave owners
Jewish slave owners
Berber slave owners
Ottoman slave owners
Tartar slave owners
Moor slave owners
Balfour Declaration 1917
Germany loses WW1 1918
November Revolution 1918
Spartacist uprising 1919
Kieth Woods: "russian" oligarchs.
Igor Kolomoisky.
Great russian famine, Holodomor, Famine in Khazakhstan, Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda, Aron Solts, Filipp Goloshchyokin, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Naftaly Frenkel.
I think its a primitive and uneducated mans mind that groups people by color, mostly because ethnicity and culture takes more time for him to understand. Skin color isnt an issue, it almost never was, the only reason black people were treated the way they were, and still are somewhat, is because they happened to be easy targets. Every easy target is exploited, with no discrimination. Hitler was stopped by white men, white men were, almost exclusively, his victims. If the writer wants to say that all of us want to dominate and rule the world, I would say that isnt exclusive to white men, but white men have the most tools to pull it off and therefore are more tempted.
I heard of you through Second Thought and Yugopnik, I am definitely not disappointed with the quality of this video. Absolute banger, I'll be binge-watching all the videos you've posted. Svaka cast matori
Thank you for the kind words and support, budi mi pozdravljen!
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@@BalkanOdyssey_ i chose peace and unity
Is cheap and free
Based balkan
@@BalkanOdyssey_ ill pay for epic balkan society
As a Bulgarian I feel like the one notable upside to the whole Balkan fustercluck is that my other friends from Serbia or Croatia already have thicker skin so to say and connecting with other progressive-minded Balkaners is easier than other European nationalities, because of a sort of crass shared sense of humor and generational pain.
Ти да видиш със сърби ли си се сприятелил?
Thank you for making this video man! We need much more unity and cooperation. Respect from a country that hopefully becomes a peaceful Yugoslavia one day! 🇷🇸
Under a Serb flag you mean.
@@croatianknight8594 no bro... under common flag
@@croatianknight8594 No bro, under unity through class, not nationality!
@@croatianknight8594 don't start dude please
Indonesia is With You, Long Live Tito, Long Live Soekarno!
I love your message, I am seeing a lot of overlapping aspects between Middle easterners and people from the Balkans.
Especially when it comes to our images in the west, being seen as Barbarians and such.
@Brian
Wikipedia: Finland: Sexual violence: Perpetrators: wow.
BBC Sweden 58% foreinger.
Ukrainian 18 year old Germany.
Taharrush gamea.
Marocchinate.
New years eve Colonge Germany.
Rotherham scandal.
Manchester scandal.
Rochdale scandal.
West Yorkshire scandal.
Newcastle scandal.
Oxford scandal.
Bradford scandal.
Telford scandal.
Aylesbury scandal.
Huddersfield scandal.
Zabihullah Mohmand Montana.
Fort McCoy Afghans.
Somali sweden 9 years old.
Skaf gang australia.
Simon Mol.
Oulu scandal.
Tapanila somali.
Glasgow grooming gang.
Ross Parker.
Kriss Donald.
Lara Logan Egypt.
Temar Bishop.
Morocco beheading.
Greece Ahmed Waqas
France:
Ndiaga Dieye police attack
Rambouillet police attack
Orthodox priest wounded Lyon
2020 Nice stabbing
Samuel Paty attack
2020 Paris stabbing attack
Colombes police attack
2020 Romans-sur-isère knife attack
Metz police stabbing
2020 Villejuif stabbing
Paris police headquartes stabbing
2019 Lyon bombing
2018 Strasburg attack
Asadollah Asadi
2018 Paris knife attack
Carcassonne and Trèbes attack
2017 Marseille stabbing
2017 Levallois-Perret attack
2017 Notre Dame attack
2017 Orly airport attack
2017 Paris machete attack
2016 Normandy church attack
Nice truck attack
2016 Magnanville stabbing
2016 Paris police station attack
Valence car attack
November 2015 Paris attacks
2015 Thalys train attack
Charlie Hebdo attack
My grandfather came to America from Croatia (yugoslavia) in 1953 and I've tried learning about the Balkans many times throughout my life but it was always such a confusing birds nest of groups at eachothers throats every time I tried. But you're videos are so clear to me about what's been happening there. Great job, keep up the excellent work.
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I like your Balkan-themed videos, because of simple and clear explanations. Well done! 👍🏻
The intro immediately reminds of the way hip hop/african American culture has been othered and comidified in the west. Great work as always thanks from Canada.
Born and raised in Germany by parents who are croatians from Bosnia.
My parents always taught me to be an upright person, being from a place with geniuses and poets I have to show always my best, to be the most polite and intelligent I can be. Representing my parents and my origins in the best way possible.
As I’m a stereotypical looking Balkanian - tall and well trained - many thought I’m as gangster as my fellow people from the Balkans. As a teenager I thought that was cool to be feared but the older I got, the more I wanted to be respected for the wise words I speak and kindness i give as I was taught by my parents.
Our men are more than gangsters more than a “Baustelac”, our women are more than good looking bitches (also a stereotype in Germany) but It’s also up to every single of us to show to them, that we are better than that!
I wish i was a tall bosnian
You are speaking exactly like african americans who believe in black excellence. Now the circumstances are very different, but the belief is the same. Learn more about black excellence, and see how it applies to balkan people. As a latino and paraguayan (and, while not white looking, not dark enough to suffer noticeable consequences), we have way less stereotypes and suffer way less prejudgment than many would think, so i learned about these things more through the lenses of african american oppresion than my living experience.
Žižec&Varoufakis, classic clip. I also really like the one of him standing on a bridge in Ljubljana and he says (in his iconic accent)
‘this side is Europe, over there is horror, oriental despotism’
I'm mad at myself for not including that in the video...
Greetings to all my Brothers in the Balkans from your old neighbour 🇹🇷
No! You named us Balkan! Sorry, but you have to stay and enjoy/suffer with us!
@@daca8395 They did not name us Balkan, West labelled the peninsula as Balkan, the real name is Helm Peninsula.
@@TheWolfDude91 real name according to whom? Greeks? Or does it even matter after all...
@@daca8395 Ни Грци а ни Турци. Сами Турци нису употребљавали овај назив нити су они извршили тај превод. Турци су називали планински венац Старе Планине -“Еминех-Даг”, што значи -Хемска-Планина. Зато је потребно отклонити ово погрешно име “Балкан” за које су везали разна погрдна значења и вратити у употребу старо србско име Хелм - Хелмско Полуострво.
@@TheWolfDude91 staro srBsko ime...
A kad je vec srBsko, sta onda znaci na tom starom srBskom jeziku rec Helm?
I think we Balkans don't have 10 "normal" singers. Everybody is just gangsta - that "zajebani lik"🤦. Samo tako nastavi. Jako poučan sadržaj.
ljudi misle da su svi balkanci glupi seljaci
to be fair gangsta music is popular world wide for 30years, we just catched the trend and made music in our language
@@ristekostadinov2820 yeah but why Balkans need to peak up every sh*t they see 🤣. Meh it's a stupid theme
@@lukazugaj4832 hopefully one day we will shape the world, with nationalist turbo folk hahahahaha
@@ristekostadinov2820 🤣🤣🤣
Even if you are a communist, I must appreciate that you have criticized the nationalism and stupidity of the Balkans.
why is that surprising? communism is about bringing down the borders and unifying the working class in all countries.
@@mamutakada Communist draw borders is SFRJ and USSR and caused future wars. So your commend makes no sense.
"Former colonial powers" lol that's a good one. They never stopped being colonizers,it's just the colonization process has taken new form.
Westernica generalizing the Balkans: "Violent barbarians who drink and fight all day!"
Balkans generalizing Westernica: "Fat people, not good!"
Every new video always exceeds my expectations. Always on point, argumented by facts and straight forward with the harsh truth.
exactly if only he used maps that are not maid by brain dead people like this one
21:29
You are right,we are fighting because of western "democracy".We need to stop fighting each other.Pozdrav iz Srbije odlican video
No goverment in History has been able to wistand 4% of it's Population rising up in a armed revolt or an peaceful Protest
We really need to change this bad stereotype
Full support to your massage 👍
We also in the middle east needs to learn how to live in peace
with love from Egypt 🇪🇬
Edit: love the song at the end
About the use of recreational drugs and guns, as well as the whole criminal aesthetic, I think it also has to do with the rap genre to some extent, as many non-Balkan rappers use such things or refer to them in their music videos. While on the same subject, I can quote agree that the promotion of crime and recreational drug use are a problem. After all, these problems are a huge reason why I am a socially conservative person. Glad you touched on it. Thanks :)
We have had a wave of drug use in Algeria too. Maybe it's rap culture.. Maybe it's the underlying nihilism exported from the West and also from all corners of the modern world which made the ground of the Soul of our people so fertile for these kinds of mindstates to grow in our people.
@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 I would say a mix of nihilism and rap culture. And the obvious way to solve the problem is to find a way to shake off the nihilism and make it clear that the promotion of drug use is unacceptable in any sane society.
Do you drink alcohol?
@@nimabanaie2171 Yes and we need poetry above all.. Poetry and art which expresses indominable will and faith in oneself and in life.. Whether it finds expression through religion or other things.. With a strong Will among the people you can do impossible things, and I believe Poetry, Music, etc are the keys to that. That's why the Quran and the Bible and so on could inspire whole people's to achieve great things. Religious literature like Nietzsche said is the highest form of poetry (just my opinion)
@@cellansmith5124 no
Fascinating video. I see some parallels with common stereotypes about Black and Italian people in the US as well.
Just one correction. Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia had always distinct national identities. On the contrary it's western Europe which is a melting pot. Check the UK for example which has 4 ethnicities (English, Scots, Welsh, Irish), Spain (Castillans, Catalans, Suebi etc), Italy (Sicilians, South Italians, North Italians).. The examples are too many to be displayed in a single comment. That's why nationalism according to the beliefs of the West was established as an ideology (language, religion, culture) and enhanced with liberalism. The West had (and still has) an identity gap.
Balkans, and the mix of different peoples was enforced by the Ottoman authorities to divide and rule the region. That's why Greeks ruled in Romania, Bulgarians moved en masse to Macedonia, Albanians to southern Greece and Kosovo and Serbians to Bulgaria and vice versa. Early 1900 century, Imperialist powers such as Italy, Austria and Russia foresaw the fall of the Ottomans and one way or another managed to fuel the tensions in the area.
Orientalism is more appropriate to the West rather than the Balkans.
They're is similar phenomenon called ocidentilism as citizen of the United States I'm familiar with belief by easternres that my fellow Americans our responsible for majority of world evils especially capitalism which Americans did not invent, either the Italians are Netherlanders did, and we are not the most proficient masters of Capitalism thats probably Germans.
Scots are basically the same genetic heritage as the English they are both mainly Anglo Saxon
Sicilians are southerners and southerner and northerners are the same ethnic group, dont speak nonsense, speaking a regional language doesnt make you culturally different, or else we wouldnt have united in the first place.
Also, italy's past has been way more than a north-south economic disparity.
@@francesco8572 Naples and the rest of south have nothing to do with Lombards and Ostrogoths. It's a unity by force not by choice, hence the south is crap while the north is paradise (I like northern Italy more than south lol).
@@seandarbe2521 china is master of capitalism now.
everyone who loves yugo pop knows that yugoslaw culture was very peaceful and wholesome...
Tito once said in his speaches there's too much bad and negative history in the Balkans that's why we need to be United
Quality content as always.
I now have feeling that Nixa Zizu is Balkan predecessor of Andrew Tate
the yugo nostalic montage at the end got me goosbumps ngl
We should stay anti gay, anti feminist pro religious etc. I would say that this is the only way for us to stay alive and keep our honor. We have a lot of bad things to work on, we are faar from normal, but becoming gay, feminist and destroying our families is only going to make things worse...
based hamza
True
I don't always agree with some of the shit Yugopnik says but I am so glad I found your channel from him. Keep up the great work! Balkans завинаги
Šta je to yugopnik
@@bobob8820 UA-camr
@@foca7550znam on cringe
Odličan snimak buraz! Pozdrav iz Banjaluke, a uskoro iz Njemačke...
Hvala ti druze, pozdrav i srecno u Njemackoj!
Leave Germany and go help your own country.
protect balkan women.
I think this stereotypical view of yours is blown up from German and Austrian stereotypes about us, and the typical Serbo-Croatian émigré that came to Germany and Austria. As a 19 year old who still lives in Bosnia, I find most of the stereotypes you talk about are overexaggerated. Sure, these people exist, but they aren't the majority. You view us like we are animals and good for nothing slaves of materialism and other such thought. The materialism in these parts comes from very long Ottoman occupation which has had it's effects, Ottoman culture was very lavish and materialistic thought was often more common than selfless thought. This is why you find Croats listening less to turbofolk-esque music, they weren't under Ottoman occupation for so long (or in some cases at all). The main themes in such tracks are ones of materialism, spending money on cheap women and expensive alcohol. This exact thought has been with us since Ottoman occupation and has never been properly phased out. To address another one of your points, nobody here wants to be like ''Pablo Escobar'' and become a criminal because ''It's the Balkan way''. In my age group, I struggle to see more than a very small but loud minority of people who think this way. Most people I talk to on a daily basis have ambitions like getting into university, or finding a stable job be it here or in other countries. On the other hand, the émigrés I've talked about prior are the more stereotypical types that more accurately match up with your view, and I think this is because you see them in Germany where you live. If you go on Spotify and look at the artists that produce music you voiced your negative opinions about, the top listeners usually come from places like Vienna, Stuttgart, Munich or Zurich, not Belgrade, Zagreb and Sarajevo. This is because the materialistic people migrate to the west for money, because they hold views that they need more money to have a ''good life''. While most of those who stay don't hold these thoughts and would rather stay here with their people instead of ''selling them out for money''. The diaspora who don't fit this category are war refugees or mixed couples who fled facing persecution. Your view of the youth that is still in the Serbo-Croatian states is one that fits the average elderly Yugonostalgic, who views the past with rose tinted glasses, it is a view of ignorance and not a view of critique.
I agree with this wholheartedly. This creator seems more obsessed with caricatures and stereotypes of people than their actual, real-life personas.
I think you completely misunderstood the purpose of this video and intentions of my presentation. I do not view our people as such, I do not endorse this image and I do not believe the majority of people think this way, to the contrary.
I am merely criticizing this narrative in pop culture, movies and songs, I am exposing it's inconsistencies, it's opprotunistic, commercialized character that is sold to the rest of the world about us through our culture industry, whose narrative is embraced by a large amount of young people.
All you have to do is watch the last 3 minutes of the video with good intentions, and you will understand what I mean.
@@BalkanOdyssey_ The narrative isn't embraced by a large amount of young people (if you are talking about young people in the Balkans themselves that is). Who cares what others think of us? Everyone has steoreotypical depictions. Take Italians for example, in America they're seen as mobsters that are fussy about food, or the Spanish, who are lazy, unproductive, and sleep all day. If we let arbitrary labels define who we are, then we're no better than the labels themselves. The individual is greater than the collective and decides his own fate
@@vmxoxo5436 The very simply point, that is stressed very openly in this video, is that this portrayal is politically instrumentalized to justify our place in the geopolitical landscape of the world. You as an individual can be as unique as you can, but when the military-industrial complex of the USA uses this barbaric despotism as a scapegoat for launching military operations against us, you can forget about the significance of your individualism. These labels get attached to you whether you like it or not.
@@BalkanOdyssey_Centuries of Ottoman ocupation traumatized the whole Balkan of which he will never recover! It perpetuate stupidity,unproductivity,corruption etc...You say the West is to blame! For what exactly? They see Balkanites as low IQ Fools and treat them accordingly.As for the stereotypes goes,if You suddently start seeing Germans working en masse low paying dirty jobs all over Balkans,You would develop some stereotypes about them as well.Just sayin' .
"Ostani na kuča. Čuvaj svoja postojebina"
-Aleksandar Karadjordjević, pretender on serbian throne (which doesn't exist, since we are a republic)
Extremely interesting video, after being bombarded with the cliches of the Balkans for so long, when ever I hear words like Serbian and what not the first thing that comes to mind is war crimes and ethnic cleansing.
The remove Kebab memes don't really help either, which was also covered in this video.
Great video.
Hats off to you sir that last bit gave me goosebumps
One day there will be unity
Pozdrav iz diaspore 🇧🇦🇺🇸
When someone says balkan to me: (my brain) trumpet, accordion, keyboard and genocidal folk singing
The idea of ‘balkanism’ isn’t actually a bad idea think of it as way to unite the entire peninsula, leading to something that all the nations could benefit but as you said it’s going to need to pass as a theory a.k.a Karl max’s communist manifesto that too almost half an century for it to take place, the same thing could have happened with the balkans, someone writing a book about the ways the Balkan way of life unites us all no matter if you are a slav or Albanian or Greek.
P.s greetings from uk from an Albanian
I agree with the conclusion. This unity is what , makes westerners or “eastern than balkans, people get terrified, and constantly are trying to divide us. In the smallest groups they can be. Ideally everyone, alone, having his own personal country.
everyone who is from the balkans needs to see this
And to get brainwashed by marxist ideas, yeah no, we tried that, not good vibes. What actually needs to happen is for aggressive rich nations and those residing within them need to mind their own business, on that i agree with him.
The accurateness is uncanny.I hope one day we will live once again in peace
Another great video, comrade.
oriental "barbarism." the irony is that if you actually visited the continent of Asia, you'd find it to be one of the safest, if not the safest continents in the world with the most chill, non-confrontational people. stark contrast with the west and that's a good thing.
I'm talking about oriental Asia however, because some people include the middle-east and India and I can't speak for those regions because I've never been. oriental Asia as in south-east and Far East Asia is safe.
When someone says balkan. Instantly "my father was a war criminal" start to play in my head.
Balkan is the best people in the world,most real,I lived in the west and far east,we still fight for freedom and we don't attack the rest of the world, regards from Srbija
Nice. I am a simple person. I see a Balakan Odyssey vid, I click on it.
3:29 "...former colonial powers, better known as the West..." ? Or the Russian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Han Dynasty, the Mongols, the Aztecs, the Inca, the Assyrians, the Romans, the Persians, basically every civilization worthy of that name.
Svaka cast brate! Slazem se 110%
I love your content in all of its aspects, thank you for it. The approach you have is too idealistic to be real, thats a though fucking task I must say... good luck with it, as that is a collective duty for all of us together... also the part with zizek yanis and the croat made me piss myself lmao I didnt expect that clip at all, loved it
Thank you for the support mate.
You bring up a lot of good points that I won't argue against, because yes, the carefully maintained "funny" Balkan persona is not a benifit and does ultimately drag the balkans down. However those things have been around since SOVIET UNION involvement. Additionally In the 60s through the 80s The balkans unfortunately got caught between NATO and THE SOVIET UNION. However, blaming NATO and the west while turning a blind eye to THE SOVIET UNION/RUSSIAN FEDERATION isnt ideal, but NATO does bear responsibility for weapons and involvement used in the Balkan wars.
Also I would like to hear your take on the Soviet-Afghan war or the Russian-syrian war. Do you think those conflicts were avoidable?
Afghan Russian war was because of USA made Talibans and funded them so they can destroy the already destroyed from WW2 Soviet union. Syrian was wasn't avoidable cause Syria asked legally the help of they Allie to them Russia. Russia has the second biggest port in these sees so they had to protect it from isis and free Syria army that created by the Iraqi wars that USA made. They also funded the coup against Syria government and blamed Asad as a dictator cause he wasn't making business with USA but wit Russia. Energy business ofc.
@@Street_photographyGK the Afghan-Soviet war started before Taliban was a thing
@@TheAltSter no ...it started when the Taliban started to raising against their socialist government and wanted to make a coup d'etat with use of force.so the government asked Soviet union to help them. But these Talibans had the help from USA and CIA agents.
Wow this was a really good watch, keep up the good work!
I was not aware of these stereotypes. Thank you for the analysis on the topic.
It just seems so perfect for a confederation of autonomous council republics united in one Balkan federation. It would become so powerful!
I am going to work on creating a Balkan flag
Your video made me watch some cool balkan music
Incredible video. Will be using you as reference material for my upcoming article on Jasenovac
Man, that was pretty accurate. Cheers from BG.
Ovo boli koliko je istina zbog balkanskog oriejntalizma sam i napustio svoju zemlju i sve vise normalnih ljudi koji ne zele da ucestvuju u nesto takvo napustaju svoje zemlje
Prijatelju napravi što više djece da se širi pamet haha, odličan video
Great video, thanks!
The songs at the beginning are truly revolting. There's a cultural downfall going on.
You have such big vocabulary! Kudos for the video, I liked your presentation!
The term Balkans exist me god save me
This was a really enlightening video
This is why Tito and Communism was successful. Both knew how to unite people's and cultures no matter how similar but, visibly have ethnic tension and history..
Successful ?
Bosniak nationalism is little late to the party, but just few months ago I was kicked out of Facebook group for making a claim that Bosniaks are part Slavic… seems like even slavs don’t want to be slavs…
@@kekson1748 no one anywhere is just one thing. Whole Balkan is one big mix of various people who lived there over the years.
You should try with Klingons next time. That may not offend them.
@@devilsadvocate7389 Celts, Ilyrians, other tribes, Italians(Romans), Goths, Mongols, ect, ect. We were always the melting pot.
@@SarsTheSecond exactly.but we do speak Slavic language… as it seems ruling elite was Slavic during the last 1000 years.
Can you imagine the Balkans if the U.S didn't intervene with ours governments and politics. The agenda is clear.
You should've mentioned Balkan people reddit.
Odlican i poucan video,svaka cast.Za manje od pola sata koliko traje ovaj video nasao sam odgovore na mnoga pitanja koja sam postavljao sam sebi i nikako nisam umeo da nadjem odgovor.Ja sam Srbin i ponosim se mojom zemljom,narodom,kulturom ali ponekad imam utisak da smo mi nekako izgubljeno i jako podeljeno drustvo,kao da ne znamo na koju cemo stranu.Ovaj video puno govori o nama samima ali i o nasim komsijama takodje.Izgleda da mi bolujemo od iste bolesti i da jako slicimo jedni na druge samo sto to ne zelimo da priznamo.Jos jednom sve pohvale za video,neverovatno si dobro uradio posao.Bravo
The main problem of the Balcan is the geostrategical place of the world like the Midle East. The second is the mix of ethnicity exists in the region. These facts are enough for the Balcan peoples to be divided between East and West.
Balkan Odyssey, Congratulations for the channel representing more objective point than the mainstream! Hvala!
Having traveled all my life through all Balkan countries, I'd say your own stereotypes of the Balkans are a bit faded away, maybe stuck somewhere around 1998-2000. Of course, the West being the West, refueled some of the powder in the keg with the Kosovo odyssey, but most of seriousness in the images you showed actually stayed where it belongs - to the past. Those guys with the pathetic "nationalist" flags that are doing "nazi" rallies are mostly teenage football hooligans and thankfully even don't understand the ideas behind those symbols, let alone resorting to violence.
Having said that - the powder keg is still dangerous, so don't play around with it. The world has to accept we like to drink, have our black sense of humor, speak politically incorrect stuff. Trying to impose "diversity" and "western liberal culture" by force - that falls directly into the category of the first part of your video with the nazis and colonization efforts. The important thing is - after 2000s, we might laugh at violence, speak about violence, hate each other, even have a fist or two thrown after a bottle of Rakia on who's da real Balkanets, but at least we don't bring out the guns :)
So don't kick the barrel.
Wikipedia: Finland: Sexual violence: Perpetrators: wow.
BBC Sweden 58% foreinger.
Ukrainian 18 year old Germany.
Taharrush gamea.
Marocchinate.
New years eve Colonge Germany.
Rotherham scandal.
Manchester scandal.
Rochdale scandal.
West Yorkshire scandal.
Newcastle scandal.
Oxford scandal.
Bradford scandal.
Telford scandal.
Aylesbury scandal.
Huddersfield scandal.
Zabihullah Mohmand Montana.
Fort McCoy Afghans.
Somali sweden 9 years old.
Skaf gang australia.
Simon Mol.
Oulu scandal.
Tapanila somali.
Glasgow grooming gang.
Ross Parker.
Kriss Donald.
Lara Logan Egypt.
Temar Bishop.
Morocco beheading.
Greece Ahmed Waqas.
France:
Ndiaga Dieye police attack
Rambouillet police attack
Orthodox priest wounded Lyon
2020 Nice stabbing
Samuel Paty attack
2020 Paris stabbing attack
Colombes police attack
2020 Romans-sur-isère knife attack
Metz police stabbing
2020 Villejuif stabbing
Paris police headquartes stabbing
2019 Lyon bombing
2018 Strasburg attack
Asadollah Asadi
2018 Paris knife attack
Carcassonne and Trèbes attack
2017 Marseille stabbing
2017 Levallois-Perret attack
2017 Notre Dame attack
2017 Orly airport attack
2017 Paris machete attack
2016 Normandy church attack
Nice truck attack
2016 Magnanville stabbing
2016 Paris police station attack
Valence car attack
November 2015 Paris attacks
2015 Thalys train attack
Charlie Hebdo attack
The Balkans is already a diverse place. I'm not sure diversity could be "forced."Plus the opposite of liberal is illiberal which usually implies that someone somewhere is being forced.
@@waltonsmith7210 "liberalism" in the contemporary, especially american meaning of the word actually is closer to some authoritarian dystopia like Putin's. But that's another talk.
@@waltonsmith7210 it can be forced and also diminuated. you can have as an example of forced diversity the serbo-croatians (south slavs excepting bulgarians) stabbing eachother, slowing their technological advances and normal lives. this was all wanted by the west, and if you didnt catch the "slowing technological advances" part, we balkaners could have posed a threat if our rising "diversity" wasnt provoked from outside
#godwinslaw
I once was hungry it was night and i wanted to make a sandwich then a family member says "if theres a woman in the house let her make it" LIKE BRO I KNOW HOW TO MAKE A SANDWICH
Great vid! Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
My brain interpreted the clips of the dude being interviewed on his view of women as an onion sketch.
Super video :D
Kraj je vrhunski zaokružio cijelu priču :D
Opasan video.
Želeo sam da pravim sličan sadržaj, ali mi je neizmerno drago što si ti tu da neguješ zaostavštinu humanizma i slobodoljubivosti.
Živelo bratstvo radnika planete i njihova borba protiv kapitala
once again...salute my dude
I LOVE YOUR WORK
Obožavam tvoje klipove bato. Samo nastavi, valjda će i naš balkan ponovo progledati. Tužno je kad se ovako razotkrije sve to... Ali istina je gorak lek i treba ga probati.
E to je to, nije lako ni pricati o tome ali ignorisanje nije opcija. Hvala ti u svakom slucaju na podrsci druze, budi mi pozdravljen.
I find it funny that by making the parallel between Albanians and "Turkish" barbarism you're playing exactly into the narratives and conspiracies of ethno-nationalists circles within the ex-Yugo and Greek states. That's exactly What was used against ethnic Albanian and Bosnian communities during the collapse of Yugoslavia and the Balkan Wars. "They're just turks."
The reason Albanians consider themselves local (and most historians and archeologists as well) is because there simply isn't another explanation for them. Linguistically they are completely separated from Europe. Genetically they are also completely separated from the rest of Europe. You can't really find anything similar anywhere else so, logically, they have to just be native.
The only two other "explanations" primarily promoted by Slavic and Greek ethno-nationalists are two (contradicting) theories, one claiming that they are a result of Celtic migration and another claiming they are a result of Egyptian migration. The first claim suggest this migration would have happened sometime in the bronze age, the other suggest this migration would have happened sometime in the 2nd-4th century.
If you're gonna try to come off as an intellectual on something, at least do some reading before hand.
This is balkanophobia that is at its peak. It can be called a Racism. And if creator of video is from balkans, that brings even grimmer picture of self hearted and selfdenile.Very sad 😢
Druze da li si pogledao video do kraja uopste? Radi se o samokritici zarad poboljsanja iskrivljene i neistinite slike. Dovoljno je da prebacis na poslednje 3 minute.
E, upravo jer nisam "zajebani lik", ovo pišem iz Štutgarta... Jbg...
Iako nemamo u potpunosti isti pogled na svet,poštujem vaš rad i radujem se svakom videu,jer me malo baci na razmišljanje.
Sve najlepše!
Romania is even worse seen by Western colonizers: both a Balkanic barbarian and Gypsy subhuman. When only Southern Romania is actually Balkan and Gypsies came from India. Nobody knows true Romania: not Gypsies, not Dracula, not bloody violent inter-ethnic Balkan wars. Best way to describe Romania is: strongly influenced by the Byzantine Empire in both culture, history and religion. With even deeper Dacian and Thracian roots and being colonized by the Romans.
Just sounds like the stereotype of working class people from everywhere.
Nah , don't speak facts , this is comunist channel.
13:00 Says unironical communist , lmao.
Why does this video feel like a subtle pro-Yugoslav anti-west propaganda?
Because the creator of the vid is a commie
It literally is
@@Daniel-jm7ts Ew.
Just found your channel. I love it
That’s about what it is. No…it’s what the media has always reported. There has to be more good people than thugs..they’re just not in charge.
I know a guy who went to Germany and I asked him:" So what do you think of Germany"
He replayed with:" OMG I've seen civilisation, I was in Lidl and Yisk
First things first: he went to Ingolstadt wich is about the same size as the area he's from.
Second thing second: he has a yisk 2 bus stops away from his own. But the german yisk is more organized...
omg am from Bosnia and that sound like us 😂😂
Fan sam vec neko vreme, jos vise od kad si rekao da si marksista
Odusevljan sam ovim, pogotovo sto celaviji to opasniji...
Voleo bih da te upoznam samo ruku da ti pruzim, svaka cast!
I dont believe that Western europeans stereotype image about other are any different than other cultures perception of westerners except for the fact that westerners have distinguished themselves from other westerners by a more "marketing" like culture. With that said they have been better salesmen througg history. Simple as that.
Personaly as a half slav and half westerner living in the west.
I make huge distinctions between for example Chinese, japanese, and thai people, turkish and iranian people, Or for that matter between west and east africans.
Balkan has not changed much since the Roman times. Then the divided Illyrian tribes fought between themselves like not long ago Serbs, Croats and Bosnians.
Maybe I've missed it, but what is the beautiful song name at the end of the video?
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It took you 25 min to say you want yugoslavia back