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Why is there so much HATE in the Balkans?
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2021
- Balkan hate and misery explained - Debunking the post-truth stereotype that the Balkans are poor and underdeveloped because it's inhabitants are warmongering maniacs whose only occupation is to hate the other and embrace his fascist ideology.
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As a Bosniak muslim, I am very much so aware of how fucked both our individual politics are and how we are exploited. If you take a good look at the South American Banana republics you can see the EXACT SAME TACTICS being used against us. They pay for our roads, our infrastructure and industry, but as long as its in their hands we only have the illusion of gaining anything. Meanwhile they get richer and richer by simply fucking us and keeping us blind, the average wages are low, the living standards decreased since Yugoslavia, and now our brightest minds leave for the west. They took everything, from our money to our thinkers without whom we can't mount a counter-revolution to establish an actual free state. They seek to prevent our own versions of the French revolution, take away the thinkers and philosophers who can see the cracks in the system and its faulty nature by either blinding them with propaganda or taking them for yourself where you can monitor and blind them. However what can we do now that we are weak, ineffective colonies? I yearn for revolution, for freedom, but how do we achieve it when the west and our own quinsling puppets hold every advantage?
Bosnia artiljerja
@@ssk9702 Jarane niko ne brani sta su cetnici radili u Bosni i Kosovu, ali Allah nam kaze da volimo I branimo krscane I jevreje, time nemoj forsirat neku ludu Bakirovu ideju nacije i zemlje.
Da da da i da. I ja sam isto Bošnjakinja, ali ovo je tolika istina.
@@gaiusjuliuscaesar3808 cekaj cekaj cekaj..... znam da su cetnici dosta lose uradili protiv bosanaca i ja sam skroz protiv toga, ali albanci su ti koj su hteli da uzmu srce srbije od nas.... oni su poceli sve i mi smo se branili.
@@lazarpetrovic547 ne branimo ni sta su albanci radili, mada reakcija na njih je bila jednako radikalna. Nasilje se ne moze rijesiti sa vise nasilja.
USA: only the serbs stand in the way of peace.
Also USA: sends military forces to countries in another continent.
No it's more like
USA:Bombs Middle East.''Peace'' restored guys!!
@@Mark_Lou well boys, we did it. communism is no more
@@heroes-of-balkan It's not neccesarily communism,whatever country they don't like,whatever ideology it is,if it isn't cooperating they will destroy it.
@@Mark_Lou they just want to parry with russia and china, with building and farming allies
But the start of all problems in the middle east its mostly Saudi Arabia *coughs*
Some years ago I was in Croatia as a turk, for some event. During our breaks one conversation with a serb struck me. He told me that I did not need to engage in small talk with him if I do not feel comfortable. I obviously did not understand why I should go out of my way to avoid him. He silently told me that he was a serb. And I was pretty confused. I genuinely did not understand why he would expect me to avoid him. He told me that "I could have been thinking that serbs will be hostile towards me". Why in the hell would they wake up in the morning deciding that they will be hostile towards me just because I was a turk just did not register. And we stared at each other blanky for a while before starting to laugh histerically.
Looking back at what Turks have been doing in history. I would be hostile against Turks too if I was living in Balkan.
There’s a Serbian lady who lived thru the bombings by America during the war she lost everything including she was a refugee in Germany at age 18-21 she had to learn to speak German after she was there but still no one would help her no job or a place to stay so she just traveled learning different languages till she moved to America and learned English she now works saving young kids and adults who are addicted to drugs or have mental problems or suffering from abuse of all kinds she is the most kindest women I have meet she saved my life and has saved many others when you hear her story it will make a whole room break down crying and realize that if she can survive and ended up with a successful life that you can do anything if you don’t give up! I hope one day we can all live free and happy without unnecessary suffering!
this comment should be the epitecome for all the retarded demographics arguments that balkaners have been migrating non-stop for better oppertunities
rare W America, she felt only 1% of what the Albanians felt when the Serbs genocided albanians
@@valtontony826Honestly? The Balkans are a bloodbath land. If you want to overcome your ancestral trauma you have to open your eyes. Your comment goes to tell you that you’re in deep delusion that only my People suffered. 🎉Wake up MAN!!!!
@@valtontony826 @ "Serbs genocided Albanians" - you history revisionist, you! If you analyze data for the entire 20th century you'll find out it's the other way around - the Serbs were massacred by Albanians!
The balkan is basically a minecraft anarchist server where everybody hate and love eachother
When we go raiding, we go raiding
I am a kosovo albanian,but I am not one of them that hates serbia, we want peace, no war, I like your content :)
Thank you a lot
@@xandrej2480 No problem bro, greetings
We all want peace, however there are people who are stuck in the past and won't move on. Politicians are the ones who ruined this region, while others exploit our lands. Hopefully newer generations will wake up and move forward, only united with good relations and cooperation will our life standards improve.
Cheers, hope life gets better down there-
@@BlindManInsane Mate, we all want peace, but all want justice as well. Punish all of the criminals. Tell the whole truth. Work out a solution that works for both sides. We can't have 1 side step on another and run it's boot into it's face then call for mutual love and peace. If we really do want it, which I think we do, we all have to work on it. I like the guy who commented above thought, that's the type that should sit at the negotiations table
@@belivuk2526 I agree, equal justice across the board and full truth. They demonized 1 nation and the other was presented as a victim, which is wrong
Woah, this channel has really come a long way. It is so tricky for us in the US to gain this crucial perspective, all we learn is maybe the break up of Yugoslavia, and there was a civil war there in the 90's and that Milosovic was one of the first names I remember hearing on the news. You and Yugopnik provide such great stuff. A history buff could spend a lifetime learning about Balkan and still not get it.
I'm really glad to hear that you enjoy my stuff. Thank you for the support!
This toxic commie perspective? Kek.
This is a communist perspective. The hatred in the region existed way before USA did. And Russia shares a lot of the blame too. USSR as well.
Yet, a communist like him loves using the word imperialist to fit his agenda.
Don't be naive and ignorant , this guy is a serb nationalist, you can see what he thinks when he says "supposed serbs war criminals" . He meant to say " convicted serbs war criminals. GTFO. Serbs are war mongers who have started WW1, were on the side of the axis powers with their "heroes" the Četniks as well as the 90s wars. Look up their history as far as starting wars. Then they try to play the victim. Don't believe everything you see on the Internet my guy. Be smart and don't fall for the serb propaganda.
ah yes, the communophobic neo-n@zi who disguise under anime pfps and a low key profile ün 4vhan
As a Greek, thanks for shedding light on what happened in the Balkans in the 90s.
Lucky only for the Greeks who pretend to be saints as if nothing happened when they stole 51% of Aegean Macedonia, with 38% percent Bulgaria kidnapped Pirin Macedonia and Albania and Serbia kidnapped the rest. Macedonia borders with neighbors like this, who are all against its existence out of jealousy...but the inevitable hell awaits them when they will answer on the judgment day for what they stole other people's land and property ...
Kinda sad you focused on Yugoslavia. As a Romanian maybe we are less stereotyped than our slavic brothers but I still faced discrimination and prejudice living in Italy.
I understand you are a Bosnian Serb but I think your channel could become a reference for all us balkanites to expose the whole peninsula's tragedies and abuses
He said on his Instagram that he will now focus on more stuff,like bulgaria,greece middle east,coups in south america etc
Thanks brothers Romanians. Please, save your selves from disasters. These westerners NATO may use Romania against Russia, and attack Russia from Romania instead from Germany. In my opinion you should not go and joine NATO and become the target in USA, NATO and EU gamings. All countries in Balkan should be awair of this lurking disasters.
Good face more racism until you shut up
@@RandomOperativeRightWing Dude, that's kinda nasty
@@RandomOperativeRightWing oh well, I checked your channel and you seem to be a Nazi. You better shut up after losing the war to us inferior non aryans
I love this channel. I am not Balkan. However, where I live in America, there is a good population of Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians (all from the 90's/2000's exodus). Becoming friends with them, hearing their stories... it's fascinating to me. The parent generation hardly interacts with each other, even when they live in the same neighborhoods. Yet their children, may they be Serbs, Croats, or Bosnians, they all get along and speak Serbo-Croatian with each other. To see a generation of South Slavs grow up together without any memory of the 90's... It's in such stark contrast to their parents. This channel has helped to fill in the gaps and see a new side to the whole ordeal.
That's interesting so where do they live in America? What city in America?
@@TheOnlyOneStanding8079 There’s huge Balkan populations all throughout “greater Chicagoland” and Rockford, IL. I’d say Serbs are the most numerous, but I know plenty of Croats, Bosnians, and Albanians too.
@@scygnius interesting
Never heard os serbo Croatian language, is that similar to the English Turkish language?
@@powderskier5547 no it sounds like you have a hot chilli pepper stuck in you throat when you speak. 😤🤬🤮
The Balkans has constant conflict for the same reason as the Middle East: it is the conjunction of several continents, and the crossover of the various cultures, empires and economic desires of the surrounding (and not so close) states. Just as with any choke-point, control of the Balkans means control of the trade, communications and culture that passes through. As a result, the Balkans has many clashing interests often from empires and powers not resident to the region. Hence, the perpetual conflicts.
The Balkan 'troubles' can be compared to the Ireland troubles since 1801. It's really the same old story - Religion, Nationalism, Ethnicity, Identity, Culture, Hatred (I wont go on) So, it doesn't altogether surprise me that Bosnia are now questioning who their leaders actually are and why aren't they Bosnian? They feel used and abused by the West and probably the EU. The high priest is Austrian after all and the others EU appointed(?). The UK parliament has been taking urgent questions on B&H which has somewhat gone under the radar...however, they have been addressing it again today in the HC. There is never any smoke without fire and it looks as though it's set to escalate and become another Balkan world problem...
I sincerely hope I am wrong...
Thanks
No, the middle east has constant problems because For the most part, Saudi Arabia has been the richest country in the middle east, that's the biggest issue with the middle east. The rest of the middle east was poor so it had hard times trying to defend itself from Saudi extremism. The middle east being at the crossroads of continents has little to do with reality.
Dealing with Muslims what do you expect
It’s similar in the Middle East and NI because it’s cultures have been fractured from foreign religion and ethnic divisions from empires, too
@@AsiaMinor12 he’s talking about a wider, world history context. The Middle East since the Achaemenid Empire has been widely contested and conquered more times than any place on earth.
I am living in Germany as a turkish rooted and I have to say that nearly every person I know from Ex - Jugoslavia Including serbs are very nice people... but my older brother once traveled to Serbia with his friends and was shocked how he was treated there by the police... very sad
Police here hassle everyone. Serbs also
@@belosevickris3379Yup, strip searches and all...
I never expected that someone would have a Serbian acquaintance as a Turk
I can confirm that. Common people in Serbia were like everywhere else in the Balkans, friendly and cheerful and definitely helpful. The police though were a different reality. As soon as they saw our car plate and our Albanian passports, a different treatment started.
This was good. I'm Greek, and I sometimes think that Europe and America are great. But, when I see stuff like this, I'm shocked. I really feel betrayed. It's like the 4th Crusade all over again. The very civilization we generated and fought for thousands of years to protect is now tearing us apart and not showing a shred of empathy.
Well imo the reality lies in the middle. This video is as extreme in creating a narrative of an evil Western European Civilization at the core of all the problems on the planet as the opposite view of Western Europe (and the Anglosphere of course) as the (only) cradle of civilization (with their roots in Rome and Athens ofc blah blah) and godgiven birthplace of human rights and all recipes to prosperity.
People that propagate either one of these extremely polarizing world views are imo part of the problem.
Of course the person and society with the larger radius of action (and not to forget the larger footprint) is more responsible for the future.
Anyway, I think this video highlights some very important facts and clears up myths, but portraying the US and EU as the axis of evil?
Blaming the others for almost everything was never the path forward as is evident in the history of success.
Long time ago we had a vision the real western vision .n
Not this kind of democracy . WE INVENTED DEMOKRACI AND GAVE AT TO THEM. AMD NOW LOOK AT THEM HOW THEY REPRESENT THE DEMOKRACI. SO IRONIC HAA..
@@Flex2212 Totally agree
This guy is pushing a very skewed version of history with exaggeration, omission and some wild extrapolation while dropping a very anti-west narrative.
Do your own research and don’t just believe everything thrown at the internet. Most of it is an agenda, their selling something or are just idiots.
I hope Turkey and Greece don't make a mistake going to war over resources there are enough for both countries. They have to work it out before its too late.
Thank you for your content. It is interesting to hear things from the Serbian perspective. I was hoping to visit your country in the past year but I think we all know how that turned out. Many Americans feel repressed by their own government in many ways. Millions without healthcare, endless wars and our taxes going to fund dictators around the globe while many at home suffer. Believe me, Americans are not all rich. Most people in this country live paycheck to paycheck hoping their car does not break down and they can pay their electric bill. The policies of the government do not always represent the people. You and “Living Ironically in Europe “ have become my two new favorites on UA-cam.
I'm really glad you can get something positive out of my content. I am mostly aware of the bad state that America has been for a long time, and it's truly sad what the people have to endure because the majority of the population is hypnotized by the political theatre there.
@@BalkanOdyssey_
American politics.. Its a shit show comrade.
@@BalkanOdyssey_ you got that right but what I find truly sad is that most Americans actually enjoy being lied to; you know the saying 'ignorance is bliss' well people here not only believe this lie but will kill you if you bust their tiny bubble of security.
I wouldn't call this a Serbian perspective. This is one of the most objective perspectives I've seen in any UA-cam video explaining the Western Balkans. I say this as a person of mixed ethnicities from the area.
Witch one is it now? Nationalist dictatorship funded by Globalist money or Nationalist dictatorship figting "Globalism" ??
These documentaries are always so damn funny , because they have to make up lies in order to have theyre channels up..
I swear i use to regular normie dummy just like most of you here
( for a minute )
Hi. I'm from Mexico and sadly this is so relatable. Many nations in Latam, specifically El Salvador, Ecuador and Panama are basically American colonies. it's sad because most people don't see or understand that and worse don't give a damn. Much love and strenght to my Balkan brothers
Yes very relatable I've lived in Mexico before..
Not only us but mexico is also the US's backyard xd
Snowfall really does touch on this you should check it out how the CIA was flooding in Crack Cocaine in American Hoods in the 80s and 90s to pay for Weapons to be flown in areas you mention to fight Socialism
Andres do you feel like NAFta is beneficial for Mexico? Do you have any idea of how much money is passed between the USA and Mexico. I live closer to Mexico than any other State in this Country. I care more my neighbors to than any other country in this world. The Americans that can sum up the violence in Mexico in one paragraph aren’t aware of the new parasitic entities infecting everything around….Borderland Beat …
"Big stick diplomacy" by the US in Central America and the Caribbean was a real thing. Yes, it was part of America's attempt at an empire. Panama and Puerto Rico are remnants of that history.
It did change in the Cold War, however. Instead of being interested in those nations for resource exploitatiom, the US was terrified that the Soviets would find allies to set up weapons including nukes aimed at the US. This is why the Cuban Middle Crisis happened. It is also why the US saw it as appropriate to meddle in Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua, and Chile. They tried to change governments to make sure they favored the US over the USSR. But that's different from old fashioned colonialism. In fact, you could say that the US wasn't very good at investing in traditional colonial things like infrastructure, ports and cities that a true profiteers' colony would have. For comparison, look at what the British or French empires did - or the Romans for that matter.
After the Cold War ended (or did it?), the US seems to have adopted different policies for different regions. In your part of the world, the overriding policy issue has not been a traditional imperial one at all - beefing up security forces and governments to cut back the power of criminal gangs involved in the drug trade and human trafficking. The view seems to be that not only are they violent, but they tend to corrupt police and governments and depress local économies. Is this a new form of imperialism? Well ... I don't know. It certainly doesn't look like imperialism to me, but the US does use it's superior wealth to try to push governments to act certain ways when it can So, perhaps it feels that way to people living there.
I leave it to the people of Mexico and Central America to determine whether or not the new phase of American influence is helping, hurting or both. I just hope that the region does manage to achieve greater security and prosperity, however it has to be achieved. If US money can do that, great. If not, chuck it in the sea.
Bulgarian here wish best luck to all Balkan brothers and sisters 🇧🇬🇲🇰🇲🇪🇷🇴🇷🇸🇸🇮🇭🇷🇦🇱🇧🇦🇹🇷🇽🇰🇬🇷 Balkan Power!!!
This is why I will not leave my country. I don't hate everyone. I just want to make things better here. Greeting from Macedonia
Well said my friend. Cheers.
Nice thinking!
Your Bulgarian forefathers would be proud !
@@BarcaeveR-oz9br and your gypsy ancestors from Egypt and Libya will be very happy that you settled in Aegean Macedonia and drove the indigenous Macedonian people into exile so that the number of Macedonians would decrease so that you would have the false excuse that Aegean Macedonia belongs to Greece, which has existed since 1833, a newly formed Greek state according to the Austro-Hungarian treaty ...
I'm romanian and I know we dont all blindly hate one another, but it's sad that some hate still exists among some groups of people. The way our way of life and cultures share so much and we've all suffered so much throughout our history we should be the last area in Europe that should show any hate towards eachother. I honestly like everybody in the Balkans, I see ourselves as tough people that survived a lot of bullshit history threw our way.
fuck serbia they need to go back to russia they seek death
I swear if the Balkans United into one country it would be the greatest country in the world. I think it’s safe to say that the Balkans has the richest cultures in the world. We would also win the World Cup every year
WW3 needs to break out before a leader like Tito/Constantine rises and unifies Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria, and Greece into one Balkan nation.
It's proven that the Balkans combined would have the best national team in the world so as a Greek PAOK fan I think that uniting is in our best interests
Something we (people far from the region) sometime forget is how developed Yugoslavia was. Watching this I remembered an engineer who worked with my dad - he was a consultant from a large European company. (1970s-80s). Unfortunately I was kid and never talked that much with him. Do you have a video about that subject? Thanks!
The point Parenti makes is confirmed by Jeffrey Sachs and even Gen. Wesley Clark.
So basically there are only two choices:
1.Accept Serbia as your overlord
2.Accept USA/EU as your overlord..
you cant blame people for going for the second choice
Smart guy, at least they dont do genocide on you
You can see the westeroids in the comments
Hi, from Mexico. This video reminded me so much about how a lot of people here think that the serious problem of violence we have here stems purely from an innate incapacity of asimilating "pacifc western european culture", while ignoring both the stupidity of such a concept and the place that the USA and the EU decided that we must have in "their" world.
Mario your post is on time! Problem is 99% of non-western peoples actually believe that 'white is always right.'
Stop blaming the Europeans for your problems.
@@Marcusianery no
@@Marcusianery besides I am blaming western europeans elites, colonial elites, not all europeans
@@mariojardonsantos7568 Okay, good enough for me. Cause we all know, The elite would do this anywhere. Russian, Chinese, Brazilian, etc.
I'm a proud Canadian patriot and I stand for N.A.T.O. and everything it represents, but don't ever say Tito's Yugoslavia wasn't special!
When you say "alleged" war criminals you lose a lot of respect and makes a lot of the video comes into question. All men pictured in the wanted poster were war criminals. We can and should discuss if and how unbalaced or partial the narratives are presented and to bring up nuances and ignored aspects but don't give us that crap of "allegedly". They were war criminals and Serbia did commit war crimes. Don't cover it. This doesn't change even if other players also behaved atrociously.
Seems like you haven't seen his other videos... everybody committed crimes.
Let's go brandon.enjoy the mess you created.
@@juamu1132????
@@radule987 That is even more contradictory then. One more big reason why he shouldn't say "allegedly", which was my point.
I love all Balkan nations same people same culture different language, from Romania
@Neki Lik hi again.
✌️Cheers from Greece 🇬🇷🤝🇷🇴
@@georgios_5342 Hey, i got to admit, you and I love to joke about coffee being farts! Love you, not literally😄
@@jovan-noble-guy749 Ehm, what?
@@georgios_5342 It ' s about a joke that the coffee sand that ' s on the bottom of coffee mugs, after you put coffee reminds people of farts, basically, coffee riminds people of poop.
In my mind Serbians were the last Europeans who tried to fight for their country and got punished by doing so
100% correct. All the other countries surrounding serbia just gave in and gave up. We fought for ourselves but unfortunately America had to ruin it all
@@lazarpetrovic547 They also payed with 2.5 milion deaths from Germans and traitors.
@SaracenGamer stopped from what? defending their land and country from the albanians and americans? I am completely against some of the monstrosities that the serbs commited like the massacre against bosniaks, but albania were trying to take kosovo away from serbia and were helped by the whole EU against small little serbia. They had no reason to be "stopped". In fact, why are u saying we should have stopped? Why arent you talking to an american as to why his country ILLEGALLY and i repeat ILLEGALLY bombed serbia?
@@quakeknight9680 e pa jebiga svi nas mrze. moramo da zivimo sa tom idiologom
@SaracenGamer i hope the south breaks off again so all of you can see how it feels to be broken!
Just a side note, those public services you were talking about in video are readily available in many western countries (every nordic country, Germany, Austria, Benelux, UK, ..). Social market economies and capitalist markets do not exclude each other. I mean, you’re living in Germany (that’s how I understood it from the video) so you should know as well.
Yes, in fact, but there may be some sabotage of these services whether through defunding and privatization services, not to mention, how such social market economies, which are capitalist, usually become one due to taxation of large companies that have quite a shady way to profit by excess cheap third world labor, unequal exchange value of goods (Joke example: many natives gave the colonizers leather, and in return, the natives get belts that usually come from at least the average price but likely for a slightly higher marked up price like a 75$ console becoming 90$) and so forth.
A very sensible comment. There's a strange blissful ignorance of just how much Europe has been shaped by social democratic movements and "third way" economics.
Knowing Serb Ultranationalists, he doesn't care; he prolly thinks that the likes of the Nordic nations are only wealthy like that by stealing the wealth of the Balkans. Everything is imperialism if its doing well.
Unfortunately most Americans don't give a rats ass about the former Yugoslavia. As a first generation American I am appalled at the truth behind the dismantling of Yugoslavia. I can't help but get angry when told the truth by your awesome videos as well as the many stories told by my family in Beograd. Thank you for your amazing videos my brother. Kosovo is Serbia.
Hey Rick. Must ask you, do Americans in general know that you are serb or just think that you are Russian? 😁
@@michaelpetrovich5353 Lmao, yes, most Americans think Serbs are some kind of Russians, especially when they hear me speak to my parents/grandparents!! Btw, my cousins last name is Petrovic
@@ricklukic104 i played high school basketball in the 90's in the US so i have lived there for 2 years.
It was the same back then.
@@ricklukic104 are they from Bosanska Krajina perhaps? 😁
@@michaelpetrovich5353 I'd have to check on that, my family is rather large 🤔
Ja sam Bosanac, protjeran i sretan sto sam sacuvao zivu glavu. Slazem se sa mnogim stvarima i cestitam vam na trudu i radu na ovome videu. Ali sta da radimo,? Kako da se bilo sta promijeni? Mi svi smo definitivno postali kolonije i jos ce gore biti ali zasto narod jednom ne kaze dosta mrznji? Zasto je jos uvijk dozvoljeno javno vrjedjati druge? Komentari su bolni na svim videima koji su sa nasih prostora. Pa DNA je pokazala da smo svi braca. Moli se kojem hoces bogu ali ne mrzi druge. Nikad se nasi narodi nisu mrzili kao sad. Laze ko god kaze da jesu. Sirotinja nije imala vremena za gluposti, sto vise, narod se prije pomagao i postovao. MI smo svi rat izgubili, i tesko cemo ikad nasu zemlju vratiti nazad. I stvarno volim otici na odmor do Bosne ali me pojede tuga gledajuci onu pustinju. Nigdje djece da se igraju, nigdje zivota. Tuga do neba. Pozdrav svim dobrim dusama sa Balkna. Neka nam je bog na pomoci svima. Uvijek nam neko drugi mora krojiti sudbinu.
Nek si ti meni ziv i zdrav brate, dobro si reko
The fact I was able to read the whole and understand what it says, it makes me happy.
(Croatian language) Nek da svi Balkanci se nađu u livadi mira i da svi se pogrlimo kao braca i sestre! Ljubav iz Lancaster, Pennsylvania!
DNA pokazala da smo svi braća?... daj nas prosvjetli ko, kada, gdje i kako je to dokazao?
i kako GENOCIDNI Srbi i DOBRI Bošnjani mogu biti braća... nikada pogano i čisto ne može biti isto...mi Bošnjaci nikada nismo nasrtali na druge narode i njihove države dok su na nas nasrtali sa svih strana, niti smo ikada negirali druge narode, njihove jezike itd... zna se ko to radi. jedino što imamo slično sa genocidašima iz izopačene svetosavske sekte je jezik i tu prestaje svaka dalja sličnost. Imamo potpuno različit mentalitet, kulturu i način života. Bilo kako bilo, ja nikoga ne mrzim, pa čak ni izopačeno srpsko pleme drumskih razbojnika, koljača i palikuća koji su u poslednjih 200 godina u više navrata počinili najstrašnije i najgnusnije zločine nad mojim narodom, ali nikada neću prestati da prezirem zločince i one koji slave zločine. Stidio bh se tek kada ih ne bi prezirao.
i nisu Srbi počinili genocid i zločine samo nad Bošnjacima... ne postoji narod u njihovm susjedstvu na čije živote i domovine nisu nasrnuli. I onda takvi smradovi počnu da pričaju o razumu, toleranciji i humanosti. A ni ti nisi ništa bolji ni pametniji čim možeš pisati gluposti koje si napisao.
p.s. kako će biti djece kad su nam svetosavski skotovi samo u Sarajevu ubili 1601 dijete..
ua-cam.com/video/49sqG4w-rvc/v-deo.html
ne vjeruj mu- on izgleda radi za RS. Nije istinski 'Bosanac'.
@@SteveAdmienn not croatian, yugoslav language. That is more brotherly
As an African this is reality to us what they did to Yugoslavia they did to us in Africa and still are doing it to this day. Now our contienet has turned into a war zone of warlords with different militia running around fighting for resources. Everything you explained is being done to us.
there are african countries nowdays that are richer than balkan countries + some other eastern european combined with proper peace and stability, europe is doomed and when i mean europe i talk abot western european once they die off what are slavs and balkan gonna do when their industry collapses since they are depended on them
Yep, fuck all imperialists.
Why did you delete your video about anti serbian propaganda?
Great video, keep the content coming! Respect from a Greek living in America 🇬🇷🇷🇸
Thank you very much
Γεια σου αδελφέ, να είσαι καλά εκεί που βρίσκεσαι και να μην ξεχνάς την Ελλάδα και τους Έλληνες 👍
Hello brother, be well where you are and do not forget Greece and the Greek people 👍
Am an American who also respects this video as well
Greece dont exist you mean turkey right?
@@valentinneloski5594 haha nice joke.
The 'no unfinished business' mentality is something I've always admired about the slavs.
U mean slaves?
@@larryhoover4142 Staves
@Gustavo Garivay womanadults
@@larryhoover4142 Slavs is short for slavic people.
Thank you for this video, I hope you deliver message to people who are confused about our situation. My grandpa came to Belgrade because he believed in Yugoslavia, him and his wife were Croats, my grandpa from other side of the family is Bosnian. So whenever theres some maniacs saying racial slurs and so on about all of them I get hurt and they are everywhere from all sides and angles because I really do feel like they are all part of my family, which sadly i never met fully because of all the shit that happened. And I never quite understood being proud to be from any of the nations, I strive to be proud how much of a human being I am and i feel like if we all take step back and see the situation as is, we could finally get out of this mud we got stuck in. So thank you for your video again you got another subscriber.
I was born in Sweden in the '90s and we have pretty much always had a large Balkan diaspora. Especially during the '90s for obvious reasons. The neighborhood I grew up in was nicknamed "little Kosovo" due to all the Kosovo-Albanians living there. Besides that, I grew up around Bosnians, Croatians, Serbs, and so on while basically knowing nothing about the region they were all from. All the talk back then was about how "immigrants are ruining the country and bringing their war with them" and other such reactionary nonsense. Nowadays, they talk about Syrians and Somalian refugees in the same way while these older migrant waves have largely been forgotten about. They were supposed to bring the Balkan wars to Scandinavia and now most people barely remember that they moved here. Makes me wonder where the next wave will be from and if the talk about Syrians and Somalians will go the same way. Maybe Ukrainians will start showing up if Russia invades?
the last part aged poorly ngl
Right because it's not like the Albanians don't sell hash
Thank god, there is someone who has the brain to think like this, like me. Much love! Pozdrav iz Njemacke!
@Урош Драгојловић Hvala za informaciju!
Wtf is that view count holy shit. You're way too Underrated
I'm glad you think that. My channel simply suffers from a lack of reach, hence being stuck at 10-50k views per video
@@BalkanOdyssey_ imas nacina da promotiras kanal, youtube polls, votes i kratki video snimci su odlican nacin da te vide ljudi koji nemaju nikakve veze sa Balkanom, moze da gleda cola iz Jamajke tvoj kratak video koji ni nezna da Balkan postoji.
Agree
Fun fact: the Black Hand killed Franz Ferdinand because he wanted that the Serbs inside Austria-Hungary would be treated more equal.
The Black Hand wanted gim gone because rhey wanted the Support of the Serbs inside Austria-Hungary to make a Jugoslawia.
Even tho he tried hard to be unbiased, he still forgot to mention the total bloodbath of balkan wars (before fascism was even a thing) how serbs genocided albanians to change the demographics of kosovo and greeks did that with both albanians and bulgarians
I mean , every balkan almost did that.
Pozdrav iz Hrvatske! Dobar video! Iako se sa nekim stvarima ne slažem. Mislim da smo svi u jednakim govnima. Niti nam je USA prijatelj, ali nije niti Rusija niti Njemačka. Svi gledaju korist. Mi smo nespretni i naivni.
Hvala ti, drago mi je da si pronasao nesto validno i korisno. Pozdrav za Hrvatsku.
Ali ponavljat ovaj mit o Jasenovcu i 700 000 ubijenih je stvarno jadno. Preko toga se ne smije prelazit jer je taj mit bio gorivo za ubijanje Hrvata 90ih. Pripremili su tu laž upravo da naprave što su napravili kad je došlo pravo vrijeme.
Such a shame for these people. In Bowling Green, KY we have tons of Muslim Bosnian refugees of the war. I learned so much from these poor guys. As a south Russian I find so many commonalities with slavs that I feel like they’re my brothers
We are all slavs :)
Historically the countries in the region have fought for supremacy dating back to the early middle ages. Some of the worst clashes are over old hatreds from the time of the Ottoman Empire. The Serbs and Croats for example. One side fought for the Turks and the other against them.
What the fuck are you talking about??
There were plenty of instances of ethnic hatred stirred up to exterminate other ethnicities before WWII. The Ottomans would use auxiliary troops to massacre people in order to put down rebellions. Also the troops of the 13th SS division composed of Bosniaks also committed crimes. Ethnic tensions and massacres were part of the history of the Balkans long before the Fascists or “right wing influence“ that you discuss.
I was watching the BBC series of the 1990s based on British troops in Bosnia showed the massacres in Bosnia carried out in small villages and towns where Paramilitaries killed neighbours, those hate filled traditions never died...Liberals could not believe this...just study Bosnia's history under the Ottomans and you would never be surprised..
Toliko je osvježavajuće vidjeti malo zdravog razuma na Balkanu i malo tačnog razmišljanja. Svaka čast na svemu što radiš, nenormalno mi je drago vidjeti da neko ima ovako razmišljanje. Stvarno zaslužuješ puno više. Bravo, bravo, bravo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Another bias bot detected ;)
u potpunosti se slažen i ostajem pri ovoj izjavi
svaka ti je ka njegoseva
A zasto nije spomenuo rat iz 90-ih Vukovar, Ovčaru, Srebrenicu?!?
@@dejviddejvich573 sto ti spominjes kad ne znas nista o tome i rodjen si 10 godina posle toga?
Yeah, great powers divided our peacefull and prosperous Yugoslavia, the fact that economical crissis in 80ties was booming and inflation was skyrocketing had nothing to do with it...
The situation progressively deteriorated after an initially promising start.
It is widely acknowledged that the displacement and massacres of Bosnians and Albanians in the last centuries were primarily caused by the actions of the Serbs. It is important to note that the conflicts of the 1990s were not the only instances of such violence. The responsibility for the killing of approximately 150,000 unarmed civilians, with the aim of expanding territorial control, cannot be solely attributed to America. The disintegration of Yugoslavia was an unfortunate but necessary outcome due to the economic disparity experienced by all ethnic groups, except for the Serbs. As an example, even in urban areas such as the one I currently reside in Kosovo, electricity was not available in households until 2003.
While I enjoyed the video I do have a few problems with it. First off I think that when making a video about the balkans you should focus on the entire peninsula and not just Yugoslavia. Second I feel like as a Bosnian serb you were being a bit biased towards Serbia. From the video you make it look like the reason for yugoslavias downfall was entirely outside influence but that's simply wrong. Yugoslavia was always a very ambitious fragile project that could easily collapse under its own weight. The thing that made the former member countries want to secede was the Serbian governments attempt at making a greater Serbia rather than keeping the nation(Yugoslavia) together. Please don't be so biased next time and blame it entirely on the west
"West evil!" Is trendy to proclaim these days, sadly. Such a lose term for so many states.
Yep. Totally a Serb. Only speaks of fascist, but not of the communists. Could it be because of his deep rooted connections to Russia? The Serbs are more fascist than they let on. "A greater Serbia with all Serbs united."
Replace Serb with German and there's your proof.
Vizzit, I totally agree with you. We can not blame only the western system.
What balkan people and elites have done to be united and to override their ideologies and accept/respect their differences to work toghether ?
All i know is that the regular man loved Yugoslavia.. and it was never better in the balkans after Yugoslavia fell.. and this was done through manipulation, lies and supporting psychos..
+ talking about how bulgaria did ''bad things'' in macedonia but never even mentioning the Serbian genocides in Macedonia nether the greek ones in thrase and Macedonia
I actually really like this guy, he is such a normal understandable man.
Any message has to be understandable, unless you talk to a brick. Not sure what are you doing here if your goal is to understand what people say.
Except that this video implies that it's illegal for Serbs to unite into one state, while everyone else has that right?
Yeah its totally understandable that he puts all the blame at the feet of the west and never mentions the USSR. In NO way is he biased.
@@jamesbaker3153 He is a bloody communist asshole, that's why. But the west is not blameless of course. I hate all of you east and west, you should all be drowned in Atlantic, pacific or any other ocean that can take that much shit
Don’t be fooled by his softspokeness he is still reciting an heavily servian biased agenda if thats not obvious enough.
>Kingdom of Yugoslavia
>healthy structure
if i werent from the Balkans this video could have fooled me
It is sad that Miilosevic was not mentioned, even once, in this video. Tito was a croatian-slovene who set up the yugoslavian pan-nationalist identity in order to unite the many different peoples of the nation. Milosevic, however, was a hardcore serbian nationalist who believed in Serbian superiority and rule over all others, that is how Yugoslavia fractured. The West played their part once the dismantling began, but it was not them who initiated it.
Yugoslavia collapsed because nationalism is one of the main parts of all the nationalities and because of the foreign aid going bye bye because after the Cold War Yugoslavia wasn't so useful to both sides.
Once "Danak u krvi" (Contribution in the blood) today's "Odliv mozgova" (Brain drain). The difference is in the force. Instead of taking them by force (kidnaping), you force them to leave - willingly. Selling them lies through insecurities of their nation and their heritage, promises of false hope, and making them disrespectful (even hateful) towards their homeland so they can respect yours "and be part of it".
This is surely very nice comment
Greetings from Greece, thank you for telling the truth, our people have been oppressed by foreign powers for too long and we all must move on for a better future for all of us through cooperation while maintaining our unique cultures and traditions. If anything our long history of revolutions teaches us that we will never stop the fight for independence and only together we can succeed.
Dude, this guy misses the point a lot, his socialist perspective makes the entire message go to waste. Maybe it's not his fault, maybe because of his country's history, the balkan nations have connected socialism with tradition and patriotism. However for Greece, the socialists are those who made the country an American banana republic. Look at SYRIZA, the most left-wing party made greece even more connected to the EU's technocrats. Even the supposed right-wing New Democracy party is basically a neo-liberal European puppet.
Curious what you, as a Greek, think about his stance on the North Macedonian name switch question then.
I completely disagree with Tsipras decision. And I would go as far as to say that he and his collaborators are guilty of treason to the greek nation, as they literally sold our ethnic and historical legacy, for which we spilled so much blood trying to protect in the past. Also he is undemocratic as he disregarded the opinion of the greek people on the issue and denounced the protestors as far-right fanatics. Lastly I am not and never have been a socialist.
@@thebond275 I second that.
@@outerspace7391 Yeah,politics are different in some countries.Weird how in Serbia the ''right wingers'' are just another Neo Liberals.
Also Fakedonia has existed since 1992,because of PASOK.They overthrew the ''bad dictators'' in 1973 and they put the ''Democrats'' who for 47 years now have ran the country to hell.
Lost me with the pro-Socialist and anti-Capitalist propaganda. Which system has pulled more people out of being poor? Capitalism.
You know the video is made by a Serb when it shows Bulgaria attacking Serbia in the back which happened during the First World War while talking about the Second Balkan War.
Not to mention only saying that the Nazis did bad shit in the Balkans while the Soviets sent millions to the Gulags.
The author doesn't care whether it's Bulgaria attacking Serbia or the other way around. He doesn't elevate one nation above the other. The video makes in clear that he is AGAINST nationalism and fashism in any form, and he literally criticised the Serbian government in this exact video!
Also, please, stop with the ''evil Soviets sending everyone to Gulags''. I am Russian-Urkainian and my own grand-grandfather was sent to Siberia, and it's very likely that the criminal claim against him was not very justified.. And yet, I am not angry towards the Soviet government! You know why?
First of all, while there were a lot of people in Gulags, with some of those people probably being innocent (including my grand-grandfather), it was still a tiny fraction of the population! In fact, the percentage of people in ''Gulags'' for most of the USSR's existence were literally lower than the current prison population in the US, which is bigger in both absolute and relative numbers. In fact, there are more prisoners in the US than there are in India or China now, even though the population of both India and China is literally 4 times bigger than the US. And yet the propaganda machine deliberately centers its attention on the problems of the ex-Soviet block, whilst ignoring atrocious problems that Capitalism brings to billions of people around the world, including the problems of crime, lack of medical care and national hatred.
All in all, arguing about which nationality in the Balkans or in Eastern Europe or anywhere else in the world ''had it worse'' or ''who attacked who first'' is pointless. Instead of reveling in these pointless debates, we should ignore the fashists' petty toxic propaganda and we should unite to build a better future for ourselves and our children.
@@awesomebearaudiobooks Or how about instead of revelling in communist propaganda you open a non-biased book as well as your eyes and see that there is a pretty good reason for people to have fled west instead of East and for the USSR to crumble under it's own weight.
Until then you are the very thing you talk against here, a walking propaganda tool but for communism instead of fascism.
@[140K] Tiger 'Ace' Krieger
First of all, I have read quite a few books, and any book you can potentially read is biased. The question is, how many overt lies are there in such books. Both pro-USSR and anti-USSR books have bias and lies in them, but I've seen many more lies written by Capitalism-defending historians than by anyone else.
Many deliberate lies about the Soviet Union were created during the last few decades and are still circulating around the internet.
For example, some ''economists'' and ''historians'' say that the Soviet economy was ineffective, even though the USSR government literally turned Russia from a backward agrarian county with overwhelming poverty, famines and the lack of basic literacy, into a superpower, capable of not only feeding its people, but also providing free housing for every working family, vast infrastructure networks (that we're still using to this day) and even space satellites.
You can say ''Oh, you're just doing Soviet propaganda or whatever'' but the thing is, there are certain facts no one can deny. The facts of how much the lives of the majority of citizens of the USSR improved. I mean, literally, just look at some of these statistics:
Top Countries by Railway (Train) Goods Transported Statistics: ua-cam.com/video/lEXtFQB9mW8/v-deo.html
World's Largest Steel Producing Countries Statistics: ua-cam.com/video/_dnM-RQI23Y/v-deo.html
Top Countries With The Most Satellites Statistics: ua-cam.com/video/iuRGHf3t_dw/v-deo.html
Top Wheat Producing Countries Statistcs: ua-cam.com/video/fxnaXKR4Ueo/v-deo.html
@@awesomebearaudiobooks Ironic that you only give video links after claiming to have read some books.
And look I've already argued on many other videos with your brainwashed comrades so I don't intend on wasting my time with you as well. I am a technician that works for a somewhat big company that doesn't really care about me so I am far removed from thinking capitalism is some perfect form of operating through life and while I like communism on paper as an idea, it is however also very far from the utopia that many people would like to imagine it so if that's also what you choose to believe in as well it's in all honesty your own problem, not mine.
@@TigerBaron Well, I started with videos because I supposed that you are a busy person and wouldn't immediately want reading literature, especially since you are a technician and might not be interested in historical literature in general. If you want, I could recommend some good books, I just didn't want to bother you with book titles.
Oh, I wish it were just my problem, but the thing is, it's not. I don't believe in utopias, I only believe in tangible results that were achieved and in comparisons of such results in Socialist countries with analogous results under Capitalism. Both in economical and in social spheres of life... Not to mention the cultivation of the idea of the friendship of different nationalities, Slavic, Kazakh, Armenian, etc, which in the Soviet countries was promoted.
My friend in game from Montenegro is actually a family relative of Željko Ražnatović (the guy at the middle of the thumbnail). I met him in a Russian MMO called Stay Out on one ordinary day when he suddenly invited me out of nowhere for some quests. A very nice guy, taught me a bit about Montenegrin culture. It was once in a lifetime, shocking too, to meet someone related to historical figures, unfortunately that of infamous figures in this case; but it's no reason for me to shun him.
Hagoromo (his in game name), wherever you are, stay safe out there bro. Hope we can play again on other games soon :)
@@ErinS06 he's better known as Arkan, but his actual name is Željko Ražnatović
He was a TV thief like Arkan?
@@mikevarga6742 He never told me any other background besides his blood ties with Arkan, but his family denounces the acts Arkan did in the past.
@@the_diplomat51 wish him well
@@lukatabak2800 sure
Balkan is most beautiful!!!
Once i knew the history of Balkans i felt so much pain and pity for its people. Not much nations of the world suffered so much as a balkanians. I hope your countries will prosper and live in peace
Balkan federation/united = 60 million people im all for it.
In Germany we have a saying: Wenn zwei sich streiten freut sich der Dritte. (i.e.: When two people are fighting/arguing the third one is happy.) It means that a so-far uninveloved party is in an advantagues position when two parties are weakening and distracting each other with a dispute or conflict.
I wouldnt be surprised if the narrator would come to the conclusion that USA also was behind things like the Srebrenica massacre
Also clearly entertaining in the middle ,where it first is claimed that Yugoslavia had a strong economy ,and later it gets in the pocket of foreign investors.
Yugoslavia was a misguided attempt to make a multicultural state ,conisisting of 4 bigger ethnicities with 3 different religions (+ jews ,albanians,gipsies and hungarians)
The reason for its construction was ´probably Serbias fight in WW1 on the right side.The serbs then got some chunk of the Habsburgs empire (croats and slovenians)
Croats and Slovenians have even been fighting serbs in WW1 under Habsburg.They should never have been merged with serbia.Either they should have had own country in 1920 or they should have been in some federation with the czechs and slovaks,who also were catholic ex-habsburgers.
After the construction of yugoslavia these people were surpressed by the serbs. Like in the concentration camps under Tito.
When these people wanted to exit Yugoslavia after soviets fall and titos death ,the LEFT-WING COMMUNIST Milosevic misused Serbian history and fears to ignite a bloody war on the people who just didnt want to be in the club anymore.
Things like the massacre in Vukovar and other places then happend.Plus the filthy siege of sarajevo
At some point the world didnt want to watch this horror show anymore ,and so it was stopped the hard way
The Diaspora from balkan countries is not because some western plan ,it is because of the high corruption ,unrealiable politicians and that some people uses the pathetic victim-card so they can blame others for THEIR mistakes. First when the balkan people start to do something about the corruption and dont always blame others, things will start to get better
The japanese didnt whine like children after ww2 ,they build a very good country. Somebody could learn from that.
Croatian here, just found your channel, watched this video, clicked and subscribed.
History is really messy in our little corner of the world ( Balkan ), especially in the last 120 years.
I really like the fact that you mentioned foreign imperialism such as Habsburg monarchy and Ottomans which have ruled these parts of Europe in medieval times.
Also, I agree, that the fact is, if you open historical books, and really look into it, foreign powers always tried, time and time again, some succedeed to occupy our lands, from the time of the Romans you can look up Illyrian wars, Byzantium resettled the Slavs so we could act as a buffer zone between them and the Avars, to the time of the Franks, then came Austro-Hungarians and their war with Ottomans all the way to the begginning of the 20th century.
What I'm trying to say is, through history, we have always wanted to make our own way, made a lot of rebellions against, sometimes, mutual opressors along the way.
The truth in the end is, that we are not third class citizens but proud and hard-working people.
That goes for every ex-yugo country.
Of course there are, here and there, individuals who preach about some things they shouldn't preach, but in the end, if you have half a brain, you can clearly see that they are rotten to the core.
Who knows what the future holds, maybe there will come a time when our people who work and live in foreign western countries such as Germany like yourself :) will not be stigmatised and looked down uppon by others, who think they are superior in some way...
In my honest and humble opinion, that time will come soon :)
May you and the rest of the Balkans find peace. Ljubav iz Lancaster, Pennsylvania!
Britanci i Nemci nam jebali mater obaveštajno, a ostali pomagali...zadnjih 120 godina.
In all my time living as a foreigner in Germany and France, i never heard disparaging words about Balkan people. It is true that some people do not trust Serbien nationalists at all. But they would say the same of many other nationalist movement -Hungarian, Russian, etc. They are seen as people who have not learned from WWII the dangers of such a political ideology.
Perhaps sometimes people in wealthier corners if Europe might pity the "suffering Balkan people". That's not helpful either, but it is well-meaning
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Macedonian here. Macedonians never got into any fighting in the Yugoslav wars. From the perspective of a country that doesnt have the burden of hate towards any Ex Yugoslav country- I can tell you that what Croats and Serbs did (yes, Both of them- not just one to blame) is haunting us to this day.
I am very angry at Serbs and Croats for destroying Yugoslavia and allowing themselves to get carried away into repeating WW2 in the 90s.
We didnt have to go to the West AT ALL. We could have done trade with the Non Alligned movement. There was a way. Lots of these countries needed Yugoslav products. Now we clean toilets in the West and worry how they call us and what they think of us.
Mind, you- My mind is not tainted by hatred towards Serbs or Croats. The average mind of Croats is poisoned to hate Serbs and the same Goes for Serbs being poisoned to hate Croats. I can see things clearly and there is one solution.
We have to unify to actually defend ourselves or otherwise in 100 -200 years there wont be Croatia and Serbia. The west and the Chinese will start migrating in the Balkans as time passes by and ENSLAVE US ALL literally. Now we are already economic slaves.
Where do u think the immigrants that come from the Middle East and Africa into the EU will start comming once Croatia and Slovenia actually get into the no border area ?
The EU will be the death of us all. OPEN YOUR Godamn EYES
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I am not an expert on this region, but I am pretty well read on the lead up to WWI and you glossed over a lot of the politics in the region. There was a near constant state of revolution throughout the peninsula going on for more than a half century. Most of it was breaking down over strict ethnic and religious desire to claim this spot or that spot as "ours"
It certainly can be said that the Ottomans and the Austro-Hungarians were the initial targets, but the fighting continued between ethnic groups well after the "imperial powers" had left. Furthermore one of the reasons outsiders had succeeded at such influence and invasion in that region dating back to Hellenism and Roman era invasions is that ethnic and tribal groups were more concerned about their neighbors than the foreigner. By the by that aspect of empire is not limited to the Balkans, but it is a fact you ignored due to a bias stated in your introduction.
Suggesting that "wars" mapped out by historians ignores the most common type of conflict throughout human history. That is internecine and "civil" conflict. That is the warfare that has dictated the history of the Balkans. I think you are painting a picture here with tinted goggles that allows you to ignore the hues that might color your home in a bad light. I understand the inclination, but it is dubious historical analysis. When you introduce preferential bias you are producing propaganda, not history. Well not good history anyway...
"I am not an expert on thos region." Ako ne razumiješ ovaj jezik, ne pričaj o ovom regionu.
Lijep pozdrav.
@@milamila1123 Well understanding history is not biased by language or dialect. By your logic we should only talk about local history and we can't attempt to understand Romans or the Greeks or Chinese or any culture not our own.
I don't pretend to understand the modern state of affairs or prevailing attitudes of anywhere with certainty, not even my own, but that doesn't mean I can't derive relevant historical data from the past of the Balkans or anywhere else.
Your attitude also reinforces my key point on bias and it's many faults in doing got history.
I was in Croatia shortly after the withdrawal of the Serbian army. I drove with my truck through Croatian villages and I noticed that often in the villages individual houses were destroyed. I took a closer look at one of the burnt out houses. In the entrance area I found scraps of burnt children's books. In the living room the burnt out skeleton of a single sofa in front of a television and to the right of the sofa the remains of a beer crate. It was clear to me that the people in the villages hated each other. How do you explain the massacre in Srebrenica? Was it also the Americans? According to my memory, until Bill Clinton's presidency, American policy was very restrained. The Balkans were seen as a matter for the Europeans. The Europeans, however, could not agree because, as I remember, French policy always intervened on the Serbian side. What did the Serbs want? In short, it should remain as it was. With Serbs in all important positions. Especially in the numerous state-owned enterprises. Yugoslavia was not a bad state, but the Serbs clearly dominated. That is why I see the Yugoslav war in the context of the fall of the Berlin Wall, which had taken place only a few years before. There was a mood in many countries toward private property and democracy. My Croatian interlocutors saw that this could not be implemented with the Serbs. The Serbs had a lot to lose. The Croats thought they could only win in the process. It was clear that without the unwilling Serbs they would enter the EU much faster. In addition, the Orthodox Serbs had a different self-image. Besides, I think that most of the new states were historically part of the K. u. K. monarchy. Only the Serbs were not completely and very unwillingly. So this is what I think. Please write how you see it. I am not a Balkan expert. I think the Balkans are beautiful and I have often had very good experiences with people from the Balkans. A special memory I have is the espresso that you could drink everywhere on the streets. All the best to the makers of Serbian Mapping.
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This theory that Serbs were dominating in Yugoslavia was presented by secessionist republics but hold little ground in reality. Let's consider some facts.
At the time of break up of Yugoslavia, the president of Yugoslavia was Stipe Mesic, a Croat who famously said "my job is done, there is Yugoslavia no more". Long time dictator Tito was Croat. Croat was a general of Yugoslav Airforce just before a war. How is this possible in "serb dominant" Yugoslavia? There were two autonomous regions in Yugoslavia, Kosmet and Vojvodina, both in Serbia. Why there was no autonomous regions for Serbs in Croatia or Bosnia? How was this possible if Serbs were dominating?
Regarding Srebrenica, explanation is very simple. Its a politicisation of war crime for further geopolitical and intern political goals. Push to present it as a genocide serves as a justification for western interferance in internal conflict of Yugoslavia and to seal the blame to Serbs exclusively. Srebrenica was militarized enclave where Bosniak armed soldiers for 3yrs would opereate in surrounding area. In course of this 3 some of them, lead by their commander Naser Oric would enter Serbian village and kill civilians in it, kids women and elders since all men were fighting for Srpska Army. After liberation of Srebrenica some of Serb soldiers took revange and killed thousends of disarmed Bosniak soldiers as a retaliation for their crimes against Serb civilians. It is documented how Ratko Mladic organised transportation and sent woment, children and elders from Srebrenica to Muslim town of Zenica.
Nice
@@user-vd1mi6sx6m you are delusional. Your way of thi king is what lead serbia to distruction. You deny everything and call your self victim when in fact your ideas lead to isolation and restroying serbian peoples livelyhood. Keep thinking that way and you will send all serbs to russia to clean their houses
@@hassanashwas6719 So basically all your rebuttal is "you're delusional, you are to blame". We are doing good considering everything we endured last century. Bosniaks are in much worse situation.
We are not going to Russia, mother Russia is coming here
@@user-vd1mi6sx6m the office of the President was rotational amoung members of the communist party. Communism was dead.
Pretty good video but I have some problems with your presentation. I understand that you are a Serb from Bosnia but either you don't know or you wanted to present Serbs as always victims - you said some half-truths. Yes Part of Croats were nazi collaborators. So were part of Serbs. So were part of French people. Part of Poles too... Every country or nation that was occupied had nazi puppet government. Croatia under Pavelić, Serbia under Nedić, France under Petain, Norway under Quisling ... Chetniks were not just royalists. They were also nazi collaborators. Being royalist doesn't make you less fascist. Fascist Italy was Kingdom during WWII. Now just to make something clear - There is no excuse for crimes that Croatian collaborators (ustashe) did to Serbs, Jews and everyone else including other Croats that didn't agree with their so called politics.
@Pametna Budala Yes but that don't really matter. My point was that all occupied nations were divided.
you are completely right, to someone who doesn't know much, this video looks like very objective, but in reality this is manipulative video which presents Serbs as victims, some facts are "forgoten" to be presented, and some are too much emphasized. Yugoslavia was not good country for living, in 80s you had times where shelves in supermarkets were empty, it was illegal to import jeans and leather jackets and shoes from Italy, if you wanted do drive car, you could do it every second day, it depends on last digit on your licence plate (odd or even), and in 1992 there was never 70% of uneployment rate.
@@DarioZg25 there were problems ofcourse but most of these problems came from outside influences from the world bank and the west pressure just like they are doing everywhere else where they are not playing by the western rules (currently in Ethiopia for instance) please stop with how bad it was in Yugoslavia bc yo obviously don't know what you are talking about and you are repeating talking points that you heard from your nationalist elders
@@denisjelicic1093 I was born, lived and witnessed abut things in Yugoslavia I was talking about. Ask someone who is 40+ about shopping tours to Trieste (Italy), and what were they doing with leather jackets before coming to Yugoslavian borders and customs. In 1986 inflation in Yugoslavia was 85%, and you had banknotes that were issued as "5000 dinara" and soon their "value" was "500 milion dinars"
@@DarioZg25 I'm 40 so i remember my friend. Btw those trips to Trieste were nothing but fun. Funny thing is people are still going shopping to Trieste.. go figure.. and the inflation.. read the part about world banks.. were you missing the fruit yogurts too like Kolinda? 😂
I love how you are showing Serbia as literally an angel😂😂😂
Ne seri
Don't be stupid.
What do you mean?
He has other videos where he states his feelings on Serbia, he's obviously aware that Serbia doesn't have an angelic past; however, the fact remains that many Balkan leaders use the idea that Serbia is to blame for everything as a form of nationalist leverage
He is a Serbian nationalist so… what do you expect.
As a former IFOR in 96 and SFOR 98 peacekeeper in MKF territory in central Bosnia i like your background information and putting things in perspective.
Bravo!
It’s about time the regular people take over this madness and let the politicians know that we don’t hate each other - on the contrary we like each other and we want to live in peace and prosperity together, helping each other and uplifting each other. The regular person in each of our countries struggles on a daily basis from low standard of living, minimal opportunities to better their lives and from a top-down instilled hatred to other ethnicities including ethnicities which do not have a state on the balkans, i.e. Roma people, Armenian, Jews, emigrants etc. We all are taught that we are better than the “others” and that we are the victims of the big powers; someone owes us something (usually land), someone did us wrong, and that we have to avenge. But we are and have been big powers. And we know how to live together. We have done it for millennia. We don’t need others to tell us how to do things at home and to mediate conversations between. All we need is a change of minds and hearts. Focus on what brings us together and what makes us better people than what divides us. Help each other, care for each other, rather than serve other “big powers”.
I am Bulgarian and i equally love and care for Macedonians, Serbs, Greeks, Albanians, Bosnians, Turks… everyone who is a hard working, honest and a good person, who wants to raise and take care of their family regardless of which god they worship, what clothes they wear, who they love, which side of the man made border they live in.
We are way better than what we currently are
Beautiful comment, well said
I arrived here because of turbofolk and now I am obsessed with the balkans history. Keep up the good work mate.
Glad to hear that, thank you for the support. Subscribe to the channel as I have a lot of Balkans content im store for the future.
Hvala za video, nazalost mi smo podijeljeni i siromasni. Nadam se da cemo jednog dana mi sami da odlucimo svojoj buducnosti i da budemo jaki i bogati. Hvala, i pozdrav iz Kanadi od pola srbin i hrvat, Sarajlija :)
Excellent video. This really helped me understand the breakdown of Yugoslavia in the context of American imperialism or, rather, the enormous role played by American imperialism in the destruction of the region and also how the seeds planted by fascism and Nazism in the early 20th century were used to foster the nationalism that became the surface-level reasoning behind these wars. In the west, we have mostly been told that there were a few competing war criminals, looking to reap the benefits of the collapse of the USSR, the Eastern Bloc and Yugoslavia itself, and that the Serbs were the most evil of the bunch. I knew that it was never this simple but I hadn't seen an explanation in the context of imperialism, even though I knew that Clinton's administration (and his puppets in the UK/rest of Nato) were highly involved in bombing the region to hell. Clinton is, in liberal circles, almost hailed as some kind of hero for his role in the wars in the Balkans but now it is clear that the US was doing what it always does: acting in its own self-interest. It never "intervenes" unless there is something to further its imperialistic interests - the "humanitarian" War in Iraq being a case in point.
Anyway, great video. For me, international socialism and harmony between nations is what's needed to overcome the horrors of imperialism and the wars with which it cannot live without.
I grew in Montenegro Yugoslavia before I moved to Detroit Michigan and I had to let go of inheritance hate towards Serbs. Realizing we are in this new country together to start new. Much love to all Balkan brothers.
This coming from a half Albanian. My father is.....ITALIAN! 🤟🏻💯🇮🇹🤣
Awesome video man. Greetings from Bulgaria. I have said it before and I will say it again respect to Serbia for resisting the west.
They dont have democracy
@@slepk7898 who? Also when did I say anything about democracy?
@@nikolakrastev8880 they need to join EU and have democracy Serbia
@@slepk7898 they really don't. Also how do they not have a democracy? They are a parliamentary republic (this is a democratic system).
Предател подкрепяш нашите врагове и ги хвалиш, че са подлоги на руснаците!!!!!!
Great video! I immediately subscribed after watching this.
I'm glad that you quoted Michael Parenti and dialecticallt analyzed the historic context.
I am very glad to hear that, thank you for the support!
I think some context is appropriate. As a half American Bosnian Yugo Serb, Serbs get a bad rap not for the criminal actions of a select few, but more like David versus Goliath. It was a little like a pick-up basketball game where one side was NBA players, and the other a collection of high school and college players. Bosniaks, as well as Serbs and Croats who did not buy into the Zagreb/Belgrade narrative, were more underdogs than simply victims. Everyone loves a Cinderella story.
When the JNA finally left Bosnia to its devices, Bosniak, Bosnian Croats, and Bosnian Serbs were relieved of duty. The difference is that there were more Serbs in the JNA from Bosnia, and they got to keep the guns and artillery. Effectively, it just changed its name from JNA to VRS. In the early days of the war, the ARBiH was made up of a rag-tag group of semi-pros and whoever could be enlisted, as well as criminal elements who had to lie cheat and steal for weapons, some of which were purchased from the VRS!
It is too easy and simple to say "all sides committed equally bad atrocities!" On the surface, that is true. Think of it this way, group A stole some cars, beat up some people, maybe did a few rapes and murders. Group B stole more cars and committed more murders and more rapes.
I do not think Alija purposely played the victim card as much as I believe he was told to.
Balkan doesn't mean "land of honey and blood". Yes the word "bal" means "honey" and "kan" means "blood" but the word "balkan" is a word that's separate from those words without an etymological connection and it just means "forested steep mountain chain" , which is what the Balkans is.
Uradak koji opravdava srpsku agresiju ,već viđeno milion puta
U kojoj sekundi videa sam opravdao srpsku agresiju ako kroz cijeli video propagiram protiv bilo kakve agresije? Kakve halucinacije su u pitanju?
@@BalkanOdyssey_ u cijelom uratku,kriv je zapad , nacionalisti itd. Ni riječi o realnim počecima,o velikospskoj agresiji,o balvan revoluciji,o buđenju srpskog nacionalizma osamdesetih,o bankrotu Jugoslavije,o svađi bivših republičkih komunističkih rukovodstava u čemu je opet prednjačilo srpsko,srećom ima nas koji smo sve to doživjeli na vlastitoj koži pa nam se ovo ne može prodati
They dont want to see us have a big great nation so they had to break us up 😔 🇧🇦🇭🇷🇷🇸
I would love it if we were still together. Its sad to see so many of our people leaving our countries by the thoudands. Unfortunately, I don't think yugoslavia could ever become a country again because there will always be nationalists who think its better for us to be separated and weaker. The only thing separating us is religion, which is so stupid. Whenever I hear someone speaking our language (I live in America BTW), I care if they're serbian, I only see them as a brother or a sister. Now, I love serbia and serbian history, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that we'd be better off as one country without chauvinists.
@@SuperSERBDUDE man fuck religon man thats what i think. Religon made us kill eachother. In th name of "god" so fucking dumb. We all the same. Same names and everything. If you look at a guy u wouldnt be able to tell if he is hrvat, srb or bosnian. We all the same.
Exacly. Thats American imperialism
@@daYugoslav honistly i agree but let people belive what the want to belive in. Religion is just a belife not the literal truth.
@Neki Lik But you liked when Serbia payed WW2 and WW1 Croatian bills and sure you loved fabrics from Serbia to be moved to Croatia and of course you loved getting Istria and Dalmatia from Serbian suffering.
You forgot to mention that Yugoslavias economy virtually collapsed in the late 70s and reforms where made that gave all provinces economic freedom. Slovenia and Croatia became very capitalistic, while Serbia and particullary Kosovo went even deeper into communism.
In the 80s, Slovenia stood for 25% of the total gdp of Yugoslavia, despite of only being 10% of the population.
The brake was purley economic and Milosevics used nationalism as his excuse to try and regain the lost land and wealth.
And since serbs where the majority of the population, they easily became what the communists wanted to turn all others into. Communists don't like diversity, they want a unified people, so when they wanted to brake away and not be serbs, Milosevics again used that as his excuse (look, they hate Serbs etc etc, yada yada).
Today, serbian ethno-nationalism absolutly is a problem in the balkans. And i'm saying this as a serb.
The video itself is certainly one of the best documentaries on the topic I have wached - ever. Gotta say, I am impressed. Was somewhat reluctant to spend 30 minutes watching the video, but I am sure glad I endured through. Well done & keep it up.
I love your content. Absolutely Amazingly done. High quality unbiased videos. Keep it up man. Pozdrav od bosanca iz Danske!
Thank you very much for the support. Pozdrav za Dansku iz Njemacke!
This is passive agressive Serbian propaganda.
Seriously?
@@BalkanOdyssey_ The main talk is comparing the whole balkan with central-western europe mainly Germany and Austria which are historically Serbian enemies after that the criticism is directed towards the Croatians stating that even the nazis were discusted by their crimes making them seem like monsters , also mocking Albanians abouy their Illyrian "theory". This is just a serbian targeting and blaming its enemies for the whole bullshit going on in the region while not mentioning the wrongs Russian backed Serbia did. Too biased in my opinion
My God. I started recently to take interest what happened in Yugoslavia. I thought it was brutal but its much worse than i Imagined
You completely left out the Balkan wars, which under the idea of 'Liberation' led to the mass expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Albanians from the Nish (Niš) Toplica region in NoviPazar. Although interesting theory. A thesis which I hope historians would embark on
A sta je sa Nedicevom Srbijom, oni nisu masakrirali rome i židove?
nedic je bio fasista
@@LDalin12 dobro i , Nedic je jos 1942 proglasio Juden frei
Generalno se slažem s tobom, samo me zanima što smo mi, po tebi, trebali napraviti 91, možda se sami ubiti da ne trošite municiju?
Nisam za prolongiranje netrpeljivosti, ali me smeta kad se ignorira činjenica da se Hrvatska branila.
Isti odgovor na video imam i ja kao Bosanac. Možda je najbolje bilo da smo svi potrbuške legli i prihvatili socijalističku hegemoniju Beograda (ne Srbije, nego direktno beogradskih vladajućih struktura) nad ostatkom bivše Jugoslavije. Ko zna, možda ukoliko se i danas pokuša takav eksperiment po 1000. put, takva vrsta uređenja možda i upali. A možda samo opet budemo prepreke za ukloniti na putu velikosrpskih ideologija. Također, segment videa u kojem se derogira potpuno bosanska srednjevjekovna država. Tipična propaganda.
Stuff i found wrong in this video ( please like so this man can see this)
1. Croats were trying to make a country since yugoslavia was created.
2. Bosniaks where, at the mercy of Ante Pavelić in WW2 since he lived with them in his younger years.
3. The Handžar(Handschar) divison was made because Croatia wanted to represent the Bosniaks and prevent them from rebeling or joining the partisans
4. The Handžar division didn't have enough Bosniaks and at the same time they drafted in many numbers
5. While yes Yugoslavia was very strong after WW2 it was mostly because the USSR and the USA funded many reforms in post-war yugoslavia, also the cracking of communism broke the Yugoslav econimy and led to many IDF loans, rising natioanilsm and disbelief in the government.
6. Yes the Serbs were planning a Serbian empire 2.0 before the 20th century. As an example the Serbian gorenment gave Bosniak and (less) Croatian lands to Serbs, divided Bosnia into entities where Bosniaks where minorities.
7. The Yugoslav constituiton says that the republics can breakaway whenever they want, which the Serbs exploited as divide and conquer to form greater Serbia which failed again.
8. While the NATO bombardment was illegal it was done to stop ANOTHER genocide in the balkans.
As im not a fan of the USA empire im gonna confidently say that the Serbs massacering over 20k people for another chance of a greater serbia.
Its terrifying the parallelism I see with my country in the part of the US and the EU. I live in Spain, most of our industry is going apart because the government invests more in tourism and other stuff like that. I'm sure that in countries like Croatia it's the same. Many scientists from our country are migrating to the US or Germany. The EU just makes empty promises talking about development in every region while the countryside in Spain most of the time hasn't got any trains or basic services. All of this while we silently are puppets of the United States and its government which only want to guard their economic interests.
The thing that angers me the most is that if I told this to anyone they would call me a nazi or fascist. I'm sick of all of thid, honestly
... this is an interesting perspective. In my opinion what you have said is both true and false. It is not ok to demonise Serbia but the Eu and USA are not some demons waiting to suck off the lives of 2nd and 3rd world countries. It is true that they are not angels but I don’t thing that there is a country which can be associated with one. It is true that a lot of potential work force is leaving for more development countries but the fact that Eu also brings prosperity is also kinda true. I live in Romania and since Romania has joined the Eu a lot has changed foe the better. Salaries have almost doubled and the quality of life has definitely improved. It is also true that some members( a significant minority) of the Eu parliament wants a federation formed of all eu members, which is not ok. But I think the truth is somewhere between what you presented and what the western media says and presents. Note that this is just my opinion and I don’t intend to offend anyone. If something I wrote is unclear or is not agreed by someone it’s ok, after all that’s how democracy is supposed to work. Id be happy to debate in the response sections if someone wants.
Is it true u have a saying thet:
Romania has only 2 frends the Black sea and Serbia?
You are right, but Romania is after all a big country, and it isn’t multi ethnic country like it was Yugoslavia for example.
I come from Croatia.
A small country with beautiful, forests and mountains.
So much potential my country has but corrupted selfish politicans that stole and at the end abonded factories, hotels and much more forced your country to join the eu.
On every news any project that is planned in my country is always financed by EU instead of us.
Not only that, but the recent project known as Pelješki most was in fact designed by Slovenian, built by chinese and 75% of the finances came from EU, while the rest from us.
Point I am trying to make here is that it is true that USA wanted yugoslavia to collapse because it was after all a communism and then the west and the US took advantage of that by making our politicans sell industry, factories, companies, lands and everything to make more money, people leave and it is no difference with the rest of former yugoslav states.
Romania wasn’t in Yugoslavia, so it is to be excpected that you had different consuqences when joining the EU.
@@johnythecookedsteak4819 Romania isn't multiethnic as Yugoslavia was. +75% is Romanian and the rest Rroma and Hungarians or Slavs.
@@KING-ef2wm no, Romania's Friends were always the Black Sea and the Carpathians. We can see what you did to the Romanians/Vlahs of Serbia
@@CRP17 what did we do to u?
Thank you sooo much for telling this truth to all of us. We are nothing but banana republics and I don’t like this situation in Balkans. Pozdrav i ugodno vrijeme iz Bosne i Hercegovine 🇧🇦
but doesnt mean we are banana men...and women.
Haj šuti molim te
This was an incredibly eye-opening I had no idea how the US screwed over Yugoslavia. As an American I learn more and more every year about how we have fucked over country after country and it makes me ashamed. You just got yourself a new subscriber!
I'm very glad to hear that you found the video informative. Thank you for the support!
Why not move there than comrade?
@@CNyst1978 because the goal is not to depopulate USA, is to give them the image they have all over the world and let them figure out how they want to move forward.
@@thelazy0ne sour grapes. Bet those foreign critics still pay their whores in US currency.
Wesley Clark, although regarded as better than Bush Jr., ripped off some Balkan coal for a good price... Jesus fuck
Very Serbian centric view from a Serbian. Go figure
fails to mention the assassination of Stjepan Radic in 1928 and jumps straight to the ustashe, as if they came to existence out of thin air...
10:08 they also eradicated ethnic italians from Istria and Dalmatia....
Aha the same way you were removing us just years prior.
@@Govnar658 I don't see the same logic applied to the croatians. It's called double standard.
@@90Goblin italians occupied dalmatia and istria before and mscrd thousands of ethnic croats. whats so hard to understand?.
Ethnically I'm a Southern Slav, a Jugoslav.
Nationally I'm a Bosnian (NOT BOSNIAK), for no other reason than that I was born within the region of Bosnia.
Historically I'm a Croat due to the region I live in being ruled by Croatian nobility before the Ottomans invaded.
I was born to a secular Muslim family, whose original roots are catholic. Eventually I found no solace within Abrahamic gods of any denomination.
So yeah, a heretic who respects our history.
Love your channel man.
Fuckin hippies
Koji cringe
Congratulations 🤙,i am former Yugoslavian living in US,as i took refuge from the war,but after almost 25 years living here,realized that America as symbol of freedom,wealth,peace,prosperity,etc was actually my old beloved country,with all the people in it.Once my generation and older disappear from this earth 🌍 it will also disappear the memories of great country that existed for half a century,time that my countrymen like to say:”It was the time that God was walking the earth “.The new oncoming generation getting raised in ruins and puppet Balkan “countries”nowadays are divided,nationally brainwashed and would not be able to change much in years to come,meaning,big players are to deeply involved in the all aspects of life there,but most of all,Yugoslavian people do not have a will,power,unity,strength,and brotherhood to make those changes.
The amount of respect that I have for this man is unmeasurable . Love and respect from Romania my man
Thank you mate. Love and respect to Romania as well!
1st point of order: Albania was among the first to show nationalistic unity in the ballkans against the ottomans in mid 15th Century. Where Gjergj Katrioti united the albanian speaking lords and for 40 years battled the ottomans. 2nd point: You made a very good point on the current status of the Ballkan region, also a very good analysis on the EU "dream" and how our countries were affected from joining or getting the status of "potential member states". I agree with you that a united confederation of all the non-eu ballkan countries would boost the economy and growth rate of the region as a whole. 3rd point: Regarding the section of the video showing us politicians talking about the attrocities that the Serbian army commited i would suggest to show the videos of the actual murders etc. The fact that Albanians are (as you say) licking us and nato's ass is because initally in 1912 and unfortunately in the aftermath of the second world war Albanians were left outside of the borders designed by the great powers for the Albanian (then) state. So after the death of Tito as you know the Serbian faction tookover Yugoslavia and the other ethnicities lost their rights. Kosovars were thrown out of official government positions in Kosovo just becausre they were Albanians and were replaced by Serbs, their downfall led to the KLA. So blaming everybody else without looking the facts makes you look unaware and sided with one narrative. Albanians are siding with nato or as you say licking their ass because of their interests and the interest of the albanian population in the ballkans. As Serbians are siding with CSTO for their own interests. I dont see you speaking about the missuse of power in Russia or about their "intervention" in Crimea. Also i agree that the state of Kosovo as it is right now is not viable. the only solution would be to unite with Albania and give back territories that might have major serbian population like north mitrovica. I also agree that the interests of the us is to have a base in kosovo but that doesnt mean that the actual Albanian claims are not valid. And my last point is that you claim that you consider democracry as a way of governing which provides illusion of freedom, however you are now as i write this message living in a country with a democratic regime and you are obviously enjoying yourself making money through a capitalistic us based platform. Hold your tities keyboard revolutionary.
Same story with Bulgaria. Wrote a map from North Dobrugea till Ohrid Macedonia and 40 years spent on that shitfuckery while our German monarch ruined the Balkan league. Very convenient. Tho if not for A&H occupation of Bosnia we all couldve received a satisfactory result ofcourse no Albanian Kosovo let's be real be happy to be on map. A war or two on Serbian side and some gifts be made eventually. But nah. Outside powers got the win. Funny cause whole world blames Germany for both world wars yet except waiting to become Germanistan I dont see them suffering for putting Europe under the sword twice.
@@ivokantarski6220 don’t worry Bulgaria, Macedonia in about 2-3 years will be split, I mean they have no other choice, Albania will take west and little bit of the middle and Bulgaria can have the east, Macedonia is a serb project to go against Bulgaria and Albania!
@@yodavader6745 I like how you think. U cant imagine how us Bulgarians would feel if that happens. Some fanatics from Serbia even claimed Macedonia to be full of Serbs. Imagine that. Our claims over the land were recognised at least by Russia when doing San Stefano. The Serb claims are so made up. I imagine how Serbs would feel about it. Really want to see that reaction. Would even pay. Albania hasnt had enough luck but the people of that country had continued their existence through a very long period of time. I as a Bulgarian wont mind Albanian shiny future. Ohrid has to become Bulgarian. No1 in Bulgaria would give shit if there are even 100% Albanians living in there. Our connection to that place is still strong.
@@ivokantarski6220 well Bulgarians are strong people, and it’s time for you guys to speak up and prove Serbia wrong in every case, from claiming all balkans is Serbia, and that Bulgaria is Serbian and “Macedonia is Serbian” you will have all support from other Balkan countries I promise you on that, maybe expect Greece
@@yodavader6745 I doupt Romania cares too much. Their history in terms of conflicts and land disagreements is so insignificant I dunno if it really exists. The others dont really matter. Yeah we all ended up badly. Bulgaria and Serbia ended with a short stick. Maybe now is our time to take over Macedonia and be so big and fix our demographic crisis and just deal with them. No offence when I write this. Serbia always been the side show. Albania didnt exist when we came so. Serbs ungrateful because if not for us beating the shit out of the strongest empire in Europe called Rome for 3 centuries then Serbs wouldve been long under Roman foot.
Thank you man. Truth is the more I learn about history and politics the more I get disappointed und I respectively even dare to wish to actually know less than I do...
Keep going and in God we trust
"The Land of Blood and Honey" is just too perfect of a name
Blaming a multitude of other nations for centuries of dysfunction is the definition of delusional.
Not blaming other nations. Blaming us for falling for it. I assume you'd take great intellectual enjoyment by blaming Serbs?
@@BalkanOdyssey_ there is no enjoyment in even thinking about servs. You idiots are the reason the Balkans stereotype continues in the 21st century. That’s why no peoples want to stay within the same country with you lot
Tell that to VIet Nam. To the colonized nations of Africa-- to the central Americans.
@@ronmcrae5328 arguing against the self-delusion of a servian is a waste of time. It’s a grown man’s thing to not blame others for its own pitfalls. I am not spending time providing arguments the rest of the civilized world has already confirmed as facts and for which ICC has been issuing life sentences to servian leaders.
ever since the early days of Pan-Slavism the Austrians and Germans have sought to destroy the center of Pan Slavism (serbia)
Hence Austria's invasion of Serbia-- after THEIR annexation of Serbian Bosnia.
Ok-- you don't know much about Balkan history-- so we don't talk.
Get some education.