Beautiful watch,...never seen this mocca dial before. Stunning....Looks like the barrel was in a fish and chipsshop...what an amount of oil. Nice tip on using 6 arbor and 7 tube for the spring. Wondering why you did not work the caseback for the scratches?
Thanks Rich! The 2824 has an awkward barrel arbor to barrel diameter ratio, and using the #7 winder arbor expands the inner end too much, but I believe you can buy specific winders for it. The case of the watch has never been polished and looks very good in person, so I decided not to touch it. I'm pretty conservative in that way :)
I have a similar Tudor but with champagne dial, polished bezel and hollow link oyster bracelet. Made in 1979 but I purchased it new in 87! Wore it every day for 20 years working as a mechanic so it is a working man's Rolex, not a poor man. Just serviced and back on the wrist. Love the video, now I know what the magic looks like inside!
Hi Stian, this healing-band for mainsprings is actually also available in different sizes, up to XXL. (the link to manufacturer is known, but top secret). I use this band for fixing broken camshafts or piston-rods. Works great, but more candles and much garlic are necessary. Best regards and greetings 😊
This watch is definitely a grail..I love the look of the gold and brown dial! And Tudor is not the poor man's Rolex, but rather the Frugal man's Rolex.
Nice trick to repair the mainspring. It worked for me. I've manage to repair some broken parts that way too. Thanks for sharing that awesome watchmaker secret.
About 15 years ago I had a Tudor Mini Sub Tu-tone gold. Since I am a little watch nerd. I think I gave it away. Now I see them on ebay for $2-3 thousand asking price. Yours is beautiful. Could make a one watch for all situations most people would encounter.
Not a fan of Tudor or Rolex. I don't hate them but your videos make me a fan of all watches you have repaired or restored. Great job! I eagerly await your next project. Cheers!
Tudor still makes some nice watches, but I prefer the old hand style like this vintage one has. The Eta 2824 is a solid movement which is why it's found in so many good watches. We had 25cm of snow here in Cape Breton and it didn't make too many happy (except kids that got a snow day away from school).
Hello Peter, thanks for your comment! Yes, Tudor has moved up in the luxury segment but I really don't like their Style series. I'm not a big fan of Rolex nor Tudor, but new Tudors certainly have a strong market position. Growing up in Norway I love winters, but the snow had already largely melted away here close to Lake Geneva. 25cm is a lot, though!
@@VintageWatchServices Winter has not really begun. There is a heavy rainfall warning in effect for tonight so this early snow will be gone soon. I like when there is enough snow to do snow things!
A wonderful example brought lovingly to life. A beep-ing awesome video. It's sad to note though that the technical manual creates a planned obsolescence for these parts when, as you've noted, they can easily be serviced. You've made a convert out of me for vintage watches.
Thanks so much, Clay, that's very nice to hear! When these watches are new and parts are readily available, replacing them for $50 is fine, but having to pay $200 is a bit crazy indeed. At some point they will need to be replaced, but until then we'll clean and lubricate them 😉
Really cool watch! Personally I'd prefer an Eta 2824 to a fancier in-house movement since it's easier/cheaper to get it serviced. As you said it's also a fairly approachable movement, and for someone learning watch repair, it seems like a logical next step after terrorizing pocket watch movements.
Thanks for watching! ETA movements are very high quality and ones like the 2824 are battle tested over many decades, so it's certainly not a bad choice. There's just this mysticism around in-house movements that a lot of manufacturers chase, when it might be better to use something like this one. And yes, this is a nice movement to work on after having made your pocket watches run again 😉
Greetings from South Carolina USA, first time watching your channel. In awe of the details, precision parts and the skills behind the camera. I think I need to get some magic tape but wider and heavier for the stuff I work on. Happy New Year. Gary
Great repair on a great looking watch. Really like the mocca dial/case combo and the strap compliments it well. Love many of the Tudors. I often wear my Tudor Sub 79190. The older models seem so much nicer imo. Thanks for the great repair. Kudos
This Eta 2824 movement Tudor is in your opinion a better buy than a Rolex of comparable quality. What would one like this run on the used market?? and a follow up question if you please. What would be the difference between this movement and the 2824-2 updated movement???
I don't think I said the movement is better than a Rolex, it certainly isn't. But to me, this watch is more attractive than most Rolex's. I don't really know the exact differences between this movement and a 2824-2, but the main differentiators of this movement are the decoration and regulation.
Love the tape trick to repair the main spring! I wonder if you just put tape around the watch, and let it set for a month or so, if it would fix the entire watch??
Thanks Randy! It's a fabulous watch that I would feel bad about using superglue on, but some black magic tape was just what the (witch)doctor ordered 😁
Great video the moment had lovely engine turning, it shows great dial and case and hardly anyone will care what's inside, servicing eta movements is a joy though as are moast, i have fixed and seviced a few now grandfathers included, and i like the way they designed their movements and they have a good reputation as do Seiko i like their movements too. Tudor is Tudor nothing poor man's about it, especially now they've got movements of their own. cheers. 👍
Thanks a lot, Dave! These movements are indeed very nice to work on and they aren't as omnipresent as they are for no reason :) I honestly prefer Tudor's to Rolexes, but there is this wrinkled nose attitude towards Tudor among many Rolex owners... Mostly the kind of Rolex owners who buys their watch for the bling factor, I would suspect.
Another very nice video of your professional work. I've noticed that you treated the escape and the pallet fork with fixodrop, and then you cleaned the pivots on the peckwood. In one of the watchmaker's books, I was reading that the pallet fork should be cleaned as well because when oscillating, the impulse jewel will grind. What is your opinion? Thank you for your thorough technical explanations.
Hello Ioannis, thanks for watching! I've been taught to clean the pivots after using fixodrop, but there might indeed be benefits to cleaning the fork also. Which book did you read that in if I may ask?
@@VintageWatchServices MAINTAINING AND REPAIRING MECHANICAL WATCHES: A PRACTICAL GUIDE. PAGE 147 Warning: ( Fixodrop must not to be applied to the pallet pivots or fork area. Only the stones must be treated, otherwise, this will lead to excessive wear. AND another warning next page: If you immerse the whole of the pallet frame in Fixodrop this will have the adverse effect of wearing out the impulse pin. This is due to the Fixodrop being present in the notch of the pallet's frame and eventually turns into a powder, which will slowly grind down the impulse pin. I have mixed information about Fixodrop and I am not convinced about its use. Does it helps or not. I am treating the pallet stones, the escape wheel, and the reversing wheels In line with the service manual of Rolex.I guess I need to experiment with a movement to see the results of treated and untreated surfaces. Thanks for coming back.
Thanks for the reference! It's difficult to navigate various opinions and I'm just another opinion. Not only that, but I'm just some guy on the internet and not a published author :) I serviced watches for a long time without using Epilame but started using it after a training course. In that course I was taught to do it as I've been showing in my videos. After double checking the latest version of the BHI Practical Lubrication document, I do however see that they also say you should only dip the pallet stones into the Epilame, so I'll start doing that just to make sure I don't pass on any questionable practices. One thing I generally don't do however, which is also often recommended, is to epilame the cap stones. I don't see the point in doing that, as the properties of the oil should keep it from creeping anyway. So at the end of the day, I'm kind of a bit in the middle on whether epilame is worth it or not, tbh.
I like your dry sense of humour! I guess your game should be called Horrorogy, not Horology. You use Black Magic to fix main springs! I am suitably impressed. I'd be interested to know whether you did the whole service on principle, or whether, apart from the main spring barrel, the jewels and pinions did need the lubrication. Either way you do it so well. And frankly, you can have all the glitzy Rolexes I've seen - I would sell my Mother-in Law for this watch 🙂
Thanks Andruw! It depends on which type of watch it is and where you are located, but if it is a vintage Tag you should be good with any decent watchmaker.
Nice watch and a great vid. Btw where is that miracle-mainspring-repair-set available ? Or do you think it's better to wind up a new one ? Questions over questions....😂😂
Hello Max, thanks for watching! I'm actually shooting part in 4k but the slow mo is only 1080, so I render the whole video in 1080 to make it look coherent. Also, 4k isn't really worth it I think, given the size of the files and the not too different quality on most screens.
I don't think I have seen any other watchmaker put grease on the escape wheel. It makes sense to me because of the friction inherent in a lever escapement, yet you the first on UA-cam I have seen. Is it recommended in most oil charts?
Hello Cory, thanks for your question! I don't put grease on the actual escape wheel but rather on the pallet stone and it then indeed rubs off onto the escape wheel. I think nowadays a lot of watchmakers use grease on all watches, but the recommendation is that you use oil (Moebius 941) on lower beat rate movements and grease (Moebius 9415) on high beat watches, 28800 and up. It's not really an issue if you use grease on lower beat movements either, the added drag is quite minimal.
Brilliant as ever, my question - some balance wheels have small screws around the perimeter. I have watched a number of watch repair channels and never had an explanation for the difference or seen an associated adjustment. Beautiful watch by the way.
Hello Keith, thanks for watching! I'm actually working on a video right now where I'll go through exactly those topics. It's an old pocket watch with a split rim and screws, so hopefully that video will answer some of your questions :)
Love your shows. I'm a bit confused. I notice you cleaned the watch parts in the ultrasonic cleaner. On some vids from other UA-camrs they are saying that only the large non-delicate parts (bracelet, case, etc.) should be cleaned in the ultrasonic. Is what they're saying true?
@@VintageWatchServices At 6:47 you begin the cleaning process in the Elma cleaner. Maybe my use of the word "ultrasonic" is incorrect. Isn't the machine agitating the watch parts in liquid cleaning solutions? I am hearing that the little parts are too delicate for that type of machine. Maybe I'm totally misinterpreting. I'm not blaming you, I'm just trying to get clarity on this subject. Thank you.
@@testchannelone6616 No worries, what I use in the video is an Elma watch cleaning machine using rotation and specialized liquids. There's thus no ultrasonic function in that machine. It's not really correct that little parts are too delicate for ultrasonic machines, it's more about the fragility of the part. For instance, a tiny pinion made of steel is perfectly fine to clean in the ultrasonic, but a worn pusher is not and a very thin and wide jewel is also not. You can clean pretty much an entire watch in an ultrasonic machine if you don't have anything else but more caution needs to be taken.
Great restoration! Greatly decorated movement. You said (@3:21) that this one it's not the chronometer grade movement, and I got a question for you. Since I know that for this movement should be also a chronometer grade, used in more expensive watches (like this one) and also highly decorated, my question is: Can you tell, just by looking at the movement which "grade" the movement is? I mean, how can you tell the difference? Is there a word like "chronometer" written on the plate somewhere for the highest ETA grade of this movement or maybe the embellishments or a different hairspring color? Thank you so much! I love the 2824 movement, I own some watch with this movement inside or its brother 2892 and they're very accurate, other than that you can find easily a watchmaker to fix it, in case of problems.
Thanks for watching, Fabrizio! You are right in that there are chronometer versions of this movement, and pretty much all high quality mass produced movements would have chronometer versions. These would often have the exact same components, while some of the time they would have a different balance wheel or regulating system. The chronometer testing applies to each individual movement, thus every single watch that is chronometer rated has been tested specifically. I went through some of the testing in this video: ua-cam.com/video/3E-L8BamNM0/v-deo.html And you're completely right: when a watch has passed the chronometer testing, it will say so on the dial and the movement will be stamped with regulated to 5 positions :)
@@VintageWatchServices Thank you so very much for your reply! I get a Mido commander which has "chronometer" stomped on the dial, I think the movement inside it it's a 2892. I've always wanted do know what differences might have been introduced in such a common movement to make it succeed in cosc tests. Thank you for your kindness and for your availability! Best wishes from Italy!
I am puzzled as the balance spokes have hour glass shapes which chronometer grade balances use! What I hate with this balance is removing the stud from the bridge arm as they have no stud screws as tho older generation 2824
It wouldn't lead to water ingress, no, but be careful you don't rub on the bezel or the case. It might be an idea to mask off the area with tape. And you can even use toothpaste 😉
I don't have a link to the paper, unfortunately, but you could try running naked around the garden at midnight on 29 February and see if that works? It did for me! 😆
The mocha dial is just plain beautiful and it really goes well with the two tone of the watch. Did you use any Neosporin when getting the mainspring to heal back up? just wondering
Thanks for watching! The first thing I'll have to explain is that I'm an idiot, which my wife will readily testify to. As an idiot, I tend to make idiot jokes, such as this one :)
I have an OMEGA Dynamic Automatic I bought in 1990, when I looked into what it would cost to service it, it was the same cost as what it cost me in 1990, I love watches but wow.
I notice you always put the movement on the time grapher before adding the calendar works. Does that complication not add an additional load to the mechanism that might affect the regulation?
Hallo Anthony, the date complication adds a tiny bit of load indeed, but it's pretty much negligible. You need to test the timekeeping of the watch over 24 hours after a service, and any irregularities will show up then.
@@VintageWatchServices a questi livelli potevano fare un altro accorgimento, sul ponte del bariletto un altro rubino che andava sull'albero, sarebbe stato top grade tipo il (sellita)....
Beautiful watch,...never seen this mocca dial before. Stunning....Looks like the barrel was in a fish and chipsshop...what an amount of oil. Nice tip on using 6 arbor and 7 tube for the spring. Wondering why you did not work the caseback for the scratches?
Thanks Rich! The 2824 has an awkward barrel arbor to barrel diameter ratio, and using the #7 winder arbor expands the inner end too much, but I believe you can buy specific winders for it.
The case of the watch has never been polished and looks very good in person, so I decided not to touch it. I'm pretty conservative in that way :)
Never expected to see a self censored watch repair video until the moment you mentioned ETA service guidelines.😁
I have a similar Tudor but with champagne dial, polished bezel and hollow link oyster bracelet. Made in 1979 but I purchased it new in 87! Wore it every day for 20 years working as a mechanic so it is a working man's Rolex, not a poor man. Just serviced and back on the wrist. Love the video, now I know what the magic looks like inside!
Love the accent, and your wit. It's right up my alley!!! Well done. Awesome work. Loving your videos.
Hi Stian,
this healing-band for mainsprings is actually also available in different sizes, up to XXL. (the link to manufacturer is known, but top secret). I use this band for fixing broken camshafts or piston-rods. Works great, but more candles and much garlic are necessary.
Best regards and greetings 😊
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Have you got one for my dodgy knee?
@@richf5967 Sorry, because of the special surface the heeling-band is not usable for medical issues ! 😉
Beautiful watch! Liked the self curing process of the main spring repair and the blips in the video! Thank you - made me smile and made my day!!!
Thanks Bobby 😁
I fell in love with that dial. It looks like butter.
Super video Stian. Thanks so much for the quality in content and production this year.
My pleasure and thanks for being a loyal viewer 😊
I’ve never really liked brown faced dials but that Tudor is a stunner. With the case and the strap it’s a magnificent combo. Great work. 👍
Thanks Michael! I share your feelings on this, but generally a brown dial fan but this watch looks fantastic :)
Yet another great video. I so want this watch. Much nicer looking than most Rolexes!!
Completely agree, James! 😍
I don't click on your videos until I've got a good cup of coffee in hand. It enhances the flavor.
That's very nice to hear, thanks!
Fantastic Video, filming lubrication of palletstones is incredible 👍🏼
Thanks so much, Albert! :)
Gorgeous Tudor watch; "and the movement is outstanding", really shows the high quality in this particular vintage watch.
This one is a real stunner for sure 😍
Wonderful work. And managing the photography at the same time....
Another great video showcasing your great expertise AND sense of humor. And I agree that this Tudor looks better than most Rolexes that I've seen.
Yeah, this one is a true beauty 😍
This watch is definitely a grail..I love the look of the gold and brown dial! And Tudor is not the poor man's Rolex, but rather the Frugal man's Rolex.
Fully agree, William ! There are a lot of vintage Tudors I would prefer over Rolexes, but this one is in a class of its own 😍
I don't look down on even off-the-shelf ETA movements. They are Swiss works of art if you are a non-snob like most of us are. Beautifully made.
the wise man's Rolex.
How much a watch like this stunning
Nice trick to repair the mainspring. It worked for me. I've manage to repair some broken parts that way too. Thanks for sharing that awesome watchmaker secret.
😂 That must mean you've made a pact with the devil then?
Obviously... jajaja. Nice vid as always. Regards from Madrid.
You always make them better. Beautiful watch. Thanks for the chill session Boss. Good Fortunes, Great Successes and Many Blessings .🫡🤝
Again, beautiful job on this vintage Tudor. I own 3 newer Tudors but want to find an older or vintage one now.
Love that dial colour - very nice with that leather strap too. Gorgeous.
About 15 years ago I had a Tudor Mini Sub Tu-tone gold. Since I am a little watch nerd. I think I gave it away. Now I see them on ebay for $2-3 thousand asking price. Yours is beautiful. Could make a one watch for all situations most people would encounter.
Yeah, a nice Tudor in good condition will fetch quite a lot nowadays and vintage prices have really shot up the last few years.
Very good and enlightening. Also what you said about Tudor. This watch is beautiful
Thanks for watching and for your comment! That watch is indeed a stunner :)
Nice job on the service. Enjoyed the narrative - especially the black magic healing main spring!! Good vid. Keep at it!
Thanks Mark! Black magic shouldn't be underestimated 😂
Real craftsmanship and some very informative history about the brand which is important to understanding watches.
Thanks so much! More to come, so stay tuned :)
Superb job, lovely watch.
This one tickled my fancy. Thanks, Stian.
It sure is a beauty... 😍
A beautifully executed, informative video. "Who am I "...I respect well-informed professionals who say their opinions aloud.
Thanks Martti! More to come, so stay tuned :)
Not a fan of Tudor or Rolex. I don't hate them but your videos make me a fan of all watches you have repaired or restored. Great job!
I eagerly await your next project.
Cheers!
Thanks for that Angel! I'm not a Rolex but Tudor fan either, but I'd honestly prefer Tudors to Rolexes... This one really shows why :)
Another beautiful job!
A beautiful watch. The mocha dial is stunning.
Couldn't agree more! 😍
I HAVE ANKER FOR REPAIR NOT RUNNING AND GREAT WORK FOR THIS TUDOR .
Thanks Luan and good luck with your watch :)
That watch is gorgeous. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching, Charlie, and this watch absolutely is 😍
Tudor still makes some nice watches, but I prefer the old hand style like this vintage one has. The Eta 2824 is a solid movement which is why it's found in so many good watches.
We had 25cm of snow here in Cape Breton and it didn't make too many happy (except kids that got a snow day away from school).
Hello Peter, thanks for your comment! Yes, Tudor has moved up in the luxury segment but I really don't like their Style series. I'm not a big fan of Rolex nor Tudor, but new Tudors certainly have a strong market position.
Growing up in Norway I love winters, but the snow had already largely melted away here close to Lake Geneva. 25cm is a lot, though!
@@VintageWatchServices Winter has not really begun. There is a heavy rainfall warning in effect for tonight so this early snow will be gone soon. I like when there is enough snow to do snow things!
A wonderful example brought lovingly to life. A beep-ing awesome video. It's sad to note though that the technical manual creates a planned obsolescence for these parts when, as you've noted, they can easily be serviced. You've made a convert out of me for vintage watches.
Thanks so much, Clay, that's very nice to hear! When these watches are new and parts are readily available, replacing them for $50 is fine, but having to pay $200 is a bit crazy indeed. At some point they will need to be replaced, but until then we'll clean and lubricate them 😉
very nice. Love the skill and commentary.
Thanks so much! More to come, so stay tuned :)
Really cool watch! Personally I'd prefer an Eta 2824 to a fancier in-house movement since it's easier/cheaper to get it serviced. As you said it's also a fairly approachable movement, and for someone learning watch repair, it seems like a logical next step after terrorizing pocket watch movements.
Thanks for watching! ETA movements are very high quality and ones like the 2824 are battle tested over many decades, so it's certainly not a bad choice. There's just this mysticism around in-house movements that a lot of manufacturers chase, when it might be better to use something like this one.
And yes, this is a nice movement to work on after having made your pocket watches run again 😉
Greetings from South Carolina USA, first time watching your channel. In awe of the details, precision parts and the skills behind the camera. I think I need to get some magic tape but wider and heavier for the stuff I work on. Happy New Year. Gary
Thanks for watching, Gary 😂 More to come in the Happy New Year!
Great repair on a great looking watch. Really like the mocca dial/case combo and the strap compliments it well. Love many of the Tudors. I often wear my Tudor Sub 79190. The older models seem so much nicer imo. Thanks for the great repair.
Kudos
Thanks so much, Thomas! There are a lot fabulous vintage Tudors indeed, I'm not a big fan of the newer ones either...
This Eta 2824 movement Tudor is in your opinion a better buy than a Rolex of comparable quality. What would one like this run on the used market?? and a follow up question if you please. What would be the difference between this movement and the 2824-2 updated movement???
I don't think I said the movement is better than a Rolex, it certainly isn't. But to me, this watch is more attractive than most Rolex's. I don't really know the exact differences between this movement and a 2824-2, but the main differentiators of this movement are the decoration and regulation.
Lovely job again and a very smart watch.
Thanks Dave!
What a beauty 😍 💖 I have a reference 75303 38mm jumbo and I LOVE IT!!!!
Very nice! The jumbos are rare and a perfect size for today's taste.
Very nice size indeed!!
Tudor makes awesome watches that you can actually buy. No waiting list for my Black bay plus I was able to get it at a discount.
Un trabajo excelente, para un Reloj excelente 👌
I have this watch with the Mocha dial but with a rotating bezel..I bought it in 1976 .it’s still my favourite
Wow, that's very nice! It's a real beauty, you're a lucky guy :)
As close to perfection in a watch for me, everything is right about it, especially that gorgeous dial!
Yep, they really hit the sweet spot with this watch, just such a perfectly balanced design. The colors, the size, the finishing... Just so beautiful.
Beautiful! Got a rootbeer aesthetic
😂 Spoken as a true rootbeer fan?
I agree with you, a beautiful and classy watch. I would love one. Enjoyed the vlog
Thank you so much, Carol! 🤗
Love the Eta 2824-2. It looks like it was upgraded with a chronometer balance. Nice perlage too.
It's a nice little movement and Tudor did a good job on it :)
What would this Tudor watch cost ? The one that you are working on ? If you don’t mind me asking . Really enjoy your work.
Beautiful watch
This watch looks awsome.
Wow!I love that chocolate dial!
Nice watch and great restoration work!
Thanks David!
Love the tape trick to repair the main spring! I wonder if you just put tape around the watch, and let it set for a month or so, if it would fix the entire watch??
🤔 Darn it, why didn't I think of that!
Hello! What time was it at the time the video was filmed? and were any parts replaced? And were there any worn parts? Thank you!
Watch the video and find out 😉
Я просто Английского языка не знаю) вот и спрашиваю! Спасибо
That is indeed a really great looking watch.
Thanks for watching and yes, it truly is :)
Glad to see that you have moved on from using super glue to using magic tape. ;-) That is a nice looking Tudor!
Thanks Randy! It's a fabulous watch that I would feel bad about using superglue on, but some black magic tape was just what the (witch)doctor ordered 😁
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As a stupid question, given it's an ETA wouldn't it be cheapish to get a replacement spring
Great video the moment had lovely engine turning, it shows great dial and case and hardly anyone will care what's inside, servicing eta movements is a joy though as are moast, i have fixed and seviced a few now grandfathers included, and i like the way they designed their movements and they have a good reputation as do Seiko i like their movements too. Tudor is Tudor nothing poor man's about it, especially now they've got movements of their own. cheers. 👍
Thanks a lot, Dave! These movements are indeed very nice to work on and they aren't as omnipresent as they are for no reason :) I honestly prefer Tudor's to Rolexes, but there is this wrinkled nose attitude towards Tudor among many Rolex owners... Mostly the kind of Rolex owners who buys their watch for the bling factor, I would suspect.
Another very nice video of your professional work. I've noticed that you treated the escape and the pallet fork with fixodrop, and then you cleaned the pivots on the peckwood. In one of the watchmaker's books, I was reading that the pallet fork should be cleaned as well because when oscillating, the impulse jewel will grind. What is your opinion? Thank you for your thorough technical explanations.
Hello Ioannis, thanks for watching! I've been taught to clean the pivots after using fixodrop, but there might indeed be benefits to cleaning the fork also. Which book did you read that in if I may ask?
@@VintageWatchServices MAINTAINING AND REPAIRING MECHANICAL WATCHES: A PRACTICAL GUIDE.
PAGE 147 Warning: ( Fixodrop must not to be applied to the pallet pivots or fork area. Only the stones must be treated, otherwise, this will lead to excessive wear. AND another warning next page: If you immerse the whole of the pallet frame in Fixodrop this will have the adverse effect of wearing out the impulse pin. This is due to the Fixodrop being present in the notch of the pallet's frame and eventually turns into a powder, which will slowly grind down the impulse pin.
I have mixed information about Fixodrop and I am not convinced about its use. Does it helps or not. I am treating the pallet stones, the escape wheel, and the reversing wheels In line with the service manual of Rolex.I guess I need to experiment with a movement to see the results of treated and untreated surfaces. Thanks for coming back.
Thanks for the reference! It's difficult to navigate various opinions and I'm just another opinion. Not only that, but I'm just some guy on the internet and not a published author :)
I serviced watches for a long time without using Epilame but started using it after a training course. In that course I was taught to do it as I've been showing in my videos. After double checking the latest version of the BHI Practical Lubrication document, I do however see that they also say you should only dip the pallet stones into the Epilame, so I'll start doing that just to make sure I don't pass on any questionable practices.
One thing I generally don't do however, which is also often recommended, is to epilame the cap stones. I don't see the point in doing that, as the properties of the oil should keep it from creeping anyway. So at the end of the day, I'm kind of a bit in the middle on whether epilame is worth it or not, tbh.
That's a beautiful timepiece.
It certainly is! 😍
I like your dry sense of humour! I guess your game should be called Horrorogy, not Horology. You use Black Magic to fix main springs! I am suitably impressed. I'd be interested to know whether you did the whole service on principle, or whether, apart from the main spring barrel, the jewels and pinions did need the lubrication. Either way you do it so well. And frankly, you can have all the glitzy Rolexes I've seen - I would sell my Mother-in Law for this watch 🙂
Wow they really made that ETA pretty
Yep, this movement has received a few hours of dedicated love :)
Very nice video. Can you give me a suggestion of where to send a tag heuer wrist watch repaired that was dropped?
Thanks Andruw! It depends on which type of watch it is and where you are located, but if it is a vintage Tag you should be good with any decent watchmaker.
Brilliant presentation...Thank You!
Thanks for watching, Milan !
Magic in the main spring, thanks!!!
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Nice restoration
Thanks Ron! More to come, so stay tuned :)
Nice watch and a great vid. Btw where is that miracle-mainspring-repair-set available ? Or do you think it's better to wind up a new one ? Questions over questions....😂😂
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I like that brown dial a lot.. very unique
It's a beauty! 😍
Nice. One question..Does it have the ETA emblem and 2824 etched on the bed, under the balance wheel? Or fine grinded there too?
Thanks for watching! Yes, it has the ETA logo and 2824 markings under the balance wheel.
Very pretty timepiece!
Thanks for watching and it sure is!
Enjoyed the video and talk track (as always). Weren't you getting new cameras? Are you going to start shooting in 4K??
Hello Max, thanks for watching! I'm actually shooting part in 4k but the slow mo is only 1080, so I render the whole video in 1080 to make it look coherent. Also, 4k isn't really worth it I think, given the size of the files and the not too different quality on most screens.
@@VintageWatchServices makes sense. Love your videos and thanks for continuing to make them. Happy holidays.
Hi great video just one question is the watch for sale keep up the great work
Thanks a lot Franco! The watch belongs to a friend, so it's unfortunately not available :)
What a treat Stian! I loved it inside and out! Interesting, it looked like the case back had Rolex on it?
Hello Boyd, yes, Tudor used to have Rolex crowns and backs saying Rolex :)
What an awesome beautiful watch, love it.
Thanks Michel, it really is 😍
Enjoyed immensely good video great watch
Thanks so much, Gwyn! More to come, so stay tuned :)
Very nice dial!!!
It's a fabulous watch for sure :)
That is a beautiful combination.
It absolutely is! 😍
I don't think I have seen any other watchmaker put grease on the escape wheel. It makes sense to me because of the friction inherent in a lever escapement, yet you the first on UA-cam I have seen. Is it recommended in most oil charts?
Hello Cory, thanks for your question! I don't put grease on the actual escape wheel but rather on the pallet stone and it then indeed rubs off onto the escape wheel.
I think nowadays a lot of watchmakers use grease on all watches, but the recommendation is that you use oil (Moebius 941) on lower beat rate movements and grease (Moebius 9415) on high beat watches, 28800 and up. It's not really an issue if you use grease on lower beat movements either, the added drag is quite minimal.
Thanks great video and a fabulous watch
Thanks for watching, James!
Most excellent watch, Stian. Swiss Mocha...lol
😁👍
Great job, well done :-)
Thanks a lot!
I love that watch !
Brilliant as ever, my question - some balance wheels have small screws around the perimeter. I have watched a number of watch repair channels and never had an explanation for the difference or seen an associated adjustment. Beautiful watch by the way.
Hello Keith, thanks for watching! I'm actually working on a video right now where I'll go through exactly those topics. It's an old pocket watch with a split rim and screws, so hopefully that video will answer some of your questions :)
Thanks for the reply, looking forward to the video. @@VintageWatchServices Th
I have the same watch and it needs a service 😣 I need these professionals man
Love your shows. I'm a bit confused. I notice you cleaned the watch parts in the ultrasonic cleaner. On some vids from other UA-camrs they are saying that only the large non-delicate parts (bracelet, case, etc.) should be cleaned in the ultrasonic. Is what they're saying true?
Thanks for watching! I'm not sure I understand the confusion, as I didn't show any ultrasonic cleaning in this video at all?
@@VintageWatchServices At 6:47 you begin the cleaning process in the Elma cleaner. Maybe my use of the word "ultrasonic" is incorrect. Isn't the machine agitating the watch parts in liquid cleaning solutions? I am hearing that the little parts are too delicate for that type of machine. Maybe I'm totally misinterpreting. I'm not blaming you, I'm just trying to get clarity on this subject. Thank you.
@@testchannelone6616 No worries, what I use in the video is an Elma watch cleaning machine using rotation and specialized liquids. There's thus no ultrasonic function in that machine. It's not really correct that little parts are too delicate for ultrasonic machines, it's more about the fragility of the part. For instance, a tiny pinion made of steel is perfectly fine to clean in the ultrasonic, but a worn pusher is not and a very thin and wide jewel is also not. You can clean pretty much an entire watch in an ultrasonic machine if you don't have anything else but more caution needs to be taken.
Great restoration! Greatly decorated movement. You said (@3:21) that this one it's not the chronometer grade movement, and I got a question for you. Since I know that for this movement should be also a chronometer grade, used in more expensive watches (like this one) and also highly decorated, my question is: Can you tell, just by looking at the movement which "grade" the movement is? I mean, how can you tell the difference? Is there a word like "chronometer" written on the plate somewhere for the highest ETA grade of this movement or maybe the embellishments or a different hairspring color? Thank you so much! I love the 2824 movement, I own some watch with this movement inside or its brother 2892 and they're very accurate, other than that you can find easily a watchmaker to fix it, in case of problems.
Thanks for watching, Fabrizio! You are right in that there are chronometer versions of this movement, and pretty much all high quality mass produced movements would have chronometer versions. These would often have the exact same components, while some of the time they would have a different balance wheel or regulating system.
The chronometer testing applies to each individual movement, thus every single watch that is chronometer rated has been tested specifically. I went through some of the testing in this video: ua-cam.com/video/3E-L8BamNM0/v-deo.html
And you're completely right: when a watch has passed the chronometer testing, it will say so on the dial and the movement will be stamped with regulated to 5 positions :)
@@VintageWatchServices Thank you so very much for your reply! I get a Mido commander which has "chronometer" stomped on the dial, I think the movement inside it it's a 2892. I've always wanted do know what differences might have been introduced in such a common movement to make it succeed in cosc tests. Thank you for your kindness and for your availability! Best wishes from Italy!
I am puzzled as the balance spokes have hour glass shapes which chronometer grade balances use! What I hate with this balance is removing the stud from the bridge arm as they have no stud screws as tho older generation 2824
Is it OK to polish an acrylic crystal with Polywatch or .05mm diamond paste while it is on the watch? Or could that lead to water ingress? Thank you!
It wouldn't lead to water ingress, no, but be careful you don't rub on the bezel or the case. It might be an idea to mask off the area with tape.
And you can even use toothpaste 😉
Enjoyed that, beautiful watch!. Healing process! 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Adrian
Thanks so much, Adrian! 😁
Nice .. bro..
Excellent service.. 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks a lot, Rudy!
Can you make a video on the spring repair or add the link to the paper used ? Every time I try it it doesn’t work ?? 😉
I don't have a link to the paper, unfortunately, but you could try running naked around the garden at midnight on 29 February and see if that works? It did for me! 😆
@@VintageWatchServices 😂
The mocha dial is just plain beautiful and it really goes well with the two tone of the watch. Did you use any Neosporin when getting the mainspring to heal back up? just wondering
Thanks David! Yes, I believe it's a mix of Neosporin and Tiger Balm with some cherry on top 😁
wonderful watch
Thanks John, it certainly is! 🤗
Great video!!
Thanks, Greg!
I don't quite understand what you did to fix the mailspring. I've never seen that method used. Can you explain a bit?
Thanks for watching! The first thing I'll have to explain is that I'm an idiot, which my wife will readily testify to. As an idiot, I tend to make idiot jokes, such as this one :)
I have an OMEGA Dynamic Automatic I bought in 1990, when I looked into what it would cost to service it, it was the same cost as what it cost me in 1990, I love watches but wow.
Yep, the cost of labour has gone up a lot over the last 35 years
I notice you always put the movement on the time grapher before adding the calendar works. Does that complication not add an additional load to the mechanism that might affect the regulation?
Hallo Anthony, the date complication adds a tiny bit of load indeed, but it's pretty much negligible. You need to test the timekeeping of the watch over 24 hours after a service, and any irregularities will show up then.
I'm new to your channel, really enjoyed seeing a Tudor being done. Lovely piece.
Fantastic job, is the magic tape available to everyone or just trade.
Thanks so much, Lee! The magic tape is available only after signing a pact with the devil for your soul, I'm afraid 😉
Ottimo lavoro complimenti soprattutto il movimento il 2824 con finiture perlage uno spettacolo alla vista, è il movimento eta più riuscito un mulo.
The 2824 is a very reliable and high quality movement and when finished to this level it's indeed beautiful also :)
@@VintageWatchServices a questi livelli potevano fare un altro accorgimento, sul ponte del bariletto un altro rubino che andava sull'albero, sarebbe stato top grade tipo il (sellita)....
Is that P-125 you're using in the barrel?
Yep
What a beauty!
Thanks for watching and yes, this certainly is a beautiful piece 😍