Sponges are NOT the way to drain water
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
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If you are still using sand and sponges to clear out huge sections of water in Minecraft, you are doing it wrong and wasting countless hours. My tutorial will teach you a faster and better way so you can stop wasting hours and enjoy the world you are building.
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Step 1: build a slime farm
By the point you drain a momument, I sure hope you have a slime farm
Step 2 Get a honey farm (seriously I can't find many bee hives).
Either need to build a slime farm or mine a ton of sand to do it the other way, so the set up time is relatively similar anyways. You can get away with a rather small slime farm, provided you have the time to AFK a bit longer.
You can also cause them to generate (although i dont know the rates.) By putting a flower next to a sapling and letting the tree grow (or growing it with bone meal.) The hive will then generate on the tree.
This comment was supposed to be bad? "Step 1: Be an inefficient player and do everything the hard way" is what I read 😂
It's a good tutorial for removing water if you're just getting rid of one huge space, but not so effective for monuments
That’s fr what he said within the first 20 seconds of the video 😂
for the inside use sponges, outside perimeter, this.
sponge inside then fill it with 27 stacks of tnt
I like the way you think!
Yupp, more useful for large open areas of water, smaller areas with wildly uneven terrain or structures this method isn't really a good option
I see a lot of comments talking about the downsides, but I think that's only because it's a bit situational--use this first for larger areas and then do clean-up using other blocks. Simple. This is a really great method, and can be used (carefully) with lava too. This is a great video to remind us of some of the tools we have!
Completely agree, this is great for large open areas of water, cleaning up near walls/floor sponges would be effective there.
Team Magma will put this to good use!
And here i am to understand this method is way too difficult than the sponge.
Actually that is pretty easy
This method is, in my opinion faster and easier, provided you are comfortable with building flying machines.
@@grimfalcon746 It is faster, more efficent and it is easier to use, just break the torch and then just wait, but the amount of time and work to build the Machine itself is so much that might be easier to just use sponges in survival and worldedit in creative.
@@T_Playz42 If you find a rhythm the machine isn't that long to build, around 10-15 minutes
@@grimfalcon746I don't think their concern is so much with building it, but rather with gathering the materials for it in a survival world
Me seeing this after raiding an ocean monument for the first time to get sponges:
Your profile picture portrays the exact face I believe someone would make in the situation
Flying machines only help on smooth surfaces. Once you get down to uneven seabed, you'll have to switch to a more appropriate method. Personally, my preferred method is to build a wall around the area, then fill in a line of sand against one wall. Then a second. Then remove the first line, and turn it into the third. Then remove the second line and turn it into the fourth. Etc. Etc. Until I've worked my way all the way across the box I layed out. I guess you could still use a flying machine to get down to sea level, but every pass with the machine is going to have diminishing returns, so...
If you are clearing out a relatively small section that would work alright, it just takes more time. As I mentioned in the video if your clearing large open sections of water this would be more effecting, smaller areas with uneven terrain is another thing. Im going to try to use this to clear out the ocean monument and beyond in my survival series and see. Going to try a few methods to remove the ocean monument and hope that doesn't cause me too much hassle.
You can attach blocks next to the slime/honey to avoid water being left next to the sand wall.
Great video. I forgot this was a thing xD
You can but that puts it over the piston push limit, so you on the last row of honey/slime blocks you need a second flying machine to run the bottom half
Thx for the tutorial it will be helpful for me when I ever do ocean builds ^^
No problem, literally the same reason I wanted to figure out a faster way to clear water myself lol
Another method is to build a huge pile of sand blocks above rows of signs and only one sign need to be broken down to make all the sand fall eventually vanishing the water below it.
Careful with that, if you don't have a quantum computer
They u might aswell just place the sand directly in the water
Could you use a similar method to drain lava oceans in the Nether?
You absolutely could, this exact machine should work for that, just be careful not to burn your toes off!
Good method, however the machine can be improved to increase efficiency and reduce costs.
Valuable info, thanks for making a video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yeah I'm about to drain a monument and I'm tempted to go with this xd
Will need to chunkload a honey farm first though
Absolutely honey farm will be mandatory for that (mine is is the spawn chunk so its always loaded) also you will need to tear down the monument first to get it out of the way of the flying machine. but that still seems quicker than doing it with sand and sponges (currently in the middle of draining an ocean monument on my LP series)
And I was just about to raid an ocean monument to get sponges in order to drain the water surrounding other ocean monuments!!!
saul goodman?
“Don’t do anything I wouldn’t do” 😂😂😂
I think that's a fair request! There isn't much I wouldn't do lol
If you put a row of glass down the outside edges would that let you go all the way to the end or would it exceed piston push limit?
Yep, push limit, but only because he didn't think to split the edge flying machines into two vertical units. If you just stack two at either end you can stick any block to the sides and Bob's your uncle.
@@MacroAggressor so the same engine up top you also put at the bottom? I've got an ocean drain project going and hoping to use this
@@kriddius Sure. In fact, you don't even need to trim the edges if you just make sure the corners have blocks preventing water regeneration.
How helpful would this be in clearing a guardian temple?
Likely not very, as you would have to remove the temple first. Working on some options for that for my survival world, but overall if you are only clearing out the temple and no area around the temple, sand and sponges would probably be better
I mean, in smaller amounts/tight/crowded area's I'd argue sponges still have a good use.
absolutely, as i mentioned if you are clearing out small areas, then sand and sponges are going to be better, but for large areas, this is more efficient.
he said that at the beginning
This is a solid method but personally as long as everything is within simulation distance I've found more success with block conveyors and simple flying machines to fill an area in with sand. It can be fully afk'd (this needs to be rebuilt every time it's done), requires less setup (no terracotta/leaves/etc) and less slime/honey.
that method would certainly work as well. rebuild time on this shouldn't be too long once you get into a rhythm (i figure around 5-10 mins per module.) but you are correct that makes it so its not afkaable
I KNEW there was a reason to build a massive slime farm! 🤗
There's ALWAYS a reason to build a massive slime farm!
About what scale would you say the crossover point is where this becomes better? Is it above or below ocean monument size, assuming you destroy the structure separately?
Probably above, you would also need to destroy the monument first, as the monument would put the pistons over their push limit. Ill be doing this in my survival world, and probably using TNT to destroy the monument to test that, but im also going larger than that in that world so it will balance out. If the only area you are removing is the area monument than sand and sponges are probably a better option.
Personally i don't know if this works the same in Bedrock but either way it sounds complicated. I'll just stick to the sponge
Wait I just had a thought
Can magma blocks dry sponges?
That is a very good question (that admittedly I had to load up a test world and check). But no, they can not.
Getting that many slime and honey blocks would literally take sooo much longer than just using the sponges.
I wonder if there could be some kind of small flying machine that turns itself over and returns one block lower. Benefit would be less resources and building time, only drawback taking slightly longer though you could just do sth else while it is running.
Yeah those machines exist. They are mainly used for world eaters
What. Automatic Slime and honey farms are so easy and simple. You build them in your base and you have a lot of chests full of them for projects like these
Passive slime and honey farms are rather easy to build, and the time it takes to get those is not spent gathering sand so it balances out. Although as mentioned this kind of solution is better for larger areas of water.
@@Hypnostedon I guess you are all somewhat right, but that's not how everyone plays.
We have a 2 year old survival world of 4 and still have barely any farms (basically none).fun fact: All the slime and honey required for doors was proudly farmed manually.
I would really appreciate a cheaper option since draining will be required at some point for a big build. But maybe I'll just watch some tutorials and do the farms myself.
But raymondstheawesome's answer intrigues me, I'll look into it. Thanks
@@lordquadrato437few farms after 2 years? Cringe
Very good texture pack. Love it.
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Thanks, took me a while to find one I liked. Its called coven on modrinth
How do you stop the machine after?
When it gets to the other end it automatically stops. Then you have to rebuild it to do the next section of water
all the pistons are at their push limit so once it contacts the far wall (or any other block) it will stop itself
Nice but to complex for me
Make a machine that can hit the far wall, move down one, and go back. Takes longer, but is fully automated, and can be wide instead of tall.
That is a very good idea *starts tinkering in a test world*
Not really sure it's worth the extra effort since each pass he eats eight rows of water.
@@macmcleod1188 Dude, the extra effort is 90% of the fun. Futzing around with flying pistons for 100 hours sounds like fun.
@@macmcleod1188 once designed, it’s less effort, fewer materials, can run unattended.
@@TrackedHiker I would only go back and forth 3 times with this design.
Too each their own tho.
Going back and forth makes more sense if the machine is short vertically and will make a lot of passes.
i think its good idea, but i think its bad for low device mobile players
Thanks for the feedback, I hadn't considered that
takes much longer like that
Depending on the scale it can, if you are only using it for smaller areas than yes, the larger you go the more this kind of option becomes viable. Don't know the exact tipping point but suffice to say its definitely a larger area than an ocean monument.
@@grimfalcon746 okay, agree but it‘s useless for this exact thing, i need something to clear the monument area which this can‘t do, for obvious reasons😂 you have an option for it?
@@Foefii You could destroy the monument first, either with tnt (you can put a sand block on top of a tnt, when you ignite it they both fall, sand lands inside of the TNT allowing it to blow up a 3x3x1 area) Or by using sponges to clear the inside of water then mining it from the inside. Short of that sand and sponges are probably the best way.
@@grimfalcon746 could do that but it would take longer with these methods, not to forget the tnt waste…
not possible to create something that clears 1 block of water, then tnt bombs, clears another block of water and tnt again? so i could leave it running while eating or something?
Something like that might be possible but not something that i have designed and ready at this time.
I feel like this would be more effective and easier to build with smaller flying machines dragging blocks along to extend their reach into the non-glazed walls and floor.
Difficulty to build would probably remain the same. Whether or not it would be more effective is possible. The problem is obviously smaller ones remove less with each pass. As for the bottom, if it is a flat bottom that may work, but if you try changing the shape of the flying machine at the bottom to match the ocean floor, it would push the flying machine over the push limit and break it, as the slime and honey blocks would stick to the extension blocks beside them. IMO its still more effective to do it this way and then use sponges to clean up the walls and floor.
didnt u use to play with Dream and George? i feel like ive saw ur skin somewhere
I did not, the skin was one i found online though so it's possible the skin has been used elsewhere
Bedrock?
I only play on Java so i don't know if this works on bedrock
Video title: How to over-complicate draining a temple 😂
Me, over-complicate something? I'm sure I don't know what you are talking about!
In all fairness if you are only draining an ocean monument probably not the best option.
Im about to build a large out post in the middle of an enormous ocean with a bunch of farms this method will save me 10+ hrs
/fill ~~~ (opposite cords) air if you’re in Creative.
I couldn’t imagine doing all that work in survival … slime farms, endlessly digging sand, glazed terracotta? I’d use buckets, sponges, and gravel. Yikes. Sometimes simple is in fact better. I love redstone machines but, it feels like one of those cases where a machine doesn’t fit the solution.
What you are describing would take way, way longer than what is in the video…
@@wooglefurf Not really, lol. I mean, the / fill command in creative takes seconds to complete. As for survival? To craft all those observers, make a honey farm, a slime farm, and to do that pattern of alternating between honey and slime, plus making sticky pistons, and then placing them in said pattern only to shave off ONE layer of water? Yeah no thanks …
I’ll stick to making a boundary area and then filling it in with grass, air, or sponges …
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I mean, look. I don’t want to tell you how to play the game, it really doesn’t affect me in any way how you choose to play Minecraft. However,
1. Yes, obviously using /fill would be faster. I had assumed that this fact, which has no relevance to the task at hand in this video since it requires creative mode/cheats, was so obvious it did not warrant mentioning.
2. If you’re at the point where you want to drain a large area of the ocean for reasons other than a guardian farm, as in this video, I would assume you already have a slime farm and a honey farm. Also, you are way overexaggerating how hard it is to craft pistons and observers and then build this extremely simple machine. …And then it doesn’t just get rid of one layer, it gets rid of many, over a large surface area. I think you are also way UNDERestimating how hard it is to gather sponges from ocean monuments and procedurally dry them out every few minutes after using them, and gather and place dozens and dozens of stacks of sand or gravel to make the small spaces that sponges require to be effective. And then go through the whole area and clear it out yourself. With a machine, sure, you have to take it down and rebuild it once or twice, but that would take like 2 minutes and you can actually do other things while it’s running.
Again, this isn’t something I really care about, I personally won’t be using any method because I don’t need a large area of water cleared. But uhh… that’s my take.
@@wooglefurf
That’s right it’s not, but while we’re on the topic, I’ll point you in a better direction ;3
1: Yes, glad you agree that creative mode would be faster and more efficient. It’s interesting you’ll point out my comment, claiming it has no relevance when you have a whole comment section full of “irrelevant” alternatives. That’s crazy.
Still unsure why if it was so obvious you had to point it out when you think it doesn’t need mentioning?
2: Clearing out large portions of water/ocean has other benefits besides a guardian farm. Creativity is driving factor of the game that the main fan base drove out. So people only see survival, and everything needs to be a farm. I also did use a comma between the different methods. Having a honey farm and a slime farm aren’t as easy as you are OVER making it out to be. They are for particular uses in the game. I think you are way underrepresenting “Time x Effort”.
You need nether quartz. So you need the nether, so you need obsidian, so you need a diamond pickaxe, so you need iron tools, and so you need wood, see where I’m going? You need to work your way up to all these steps in the first place. I should also mention now; that you still need to get lucky or find the ores in the first place …
Let’s not act like I SAID sponges were the best option. I think the machine, it’s unnecessary. You’re way OVER thinking it. I never said anything about the difficulty of obtaining sponges. But, they’re are most ideal. What? You expect buckets? You have to put a price in your time. Imagine doing all this work to clear off one section but have to do it three times to build an underwater temple? Underwater base? A guardian farm with branching off chutes? Or what if you want to grab the coral? Whatever the case, okay sure, it takes out a large portion of water over a large surface area.
Okay fair.
You’re correct. I’ll own up on that.
However you still need to get rid of the bottom layer, and let’s not even mention you’ll need to manually remove and replace. You’ll need to manually reposition the machine. 2 minutes? More like an hour or half of one. I don’t think that can be built in two minutes. One wrong placement and you’re toast.
I think it’s way more effective to gather stacks and stacks of the most common block second or third to grass, and use a flying machine that drops the gravel or sand in rows or perhaps make a large platform and break the bottom block? What’s also crazy to me is how you want to talk about all this manual labor when you have to go through several stages to even get to the machine concept in the first place, then only to do even more work. Id rather just make a simple solution. If you wouldn’t be using any of the methods why bother commenting? Feels like you wanted to feel important, lol. But uhh … that’s my take …
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