Honda B16 - What makes it GREAT? ICONIC ENGINES #7
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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Today on Iconic engines it's time for our first Honda engine, and it's only right to start with an engine that holds a very special place in Honda's lineage. The engine that brought vtec to the game, the engine that did for import tuning what the Chevy small block did for muscle cars. Today it time to see what makes the legendary b16 engine great.
The b16 hit the market in 1989 in the form of the first generation b16a, and the first car that had a b16 in it's engine bay was the Japanese market Honda Integra XSi. Very soon after the B16 found its way into the engine bays of many other Hondas, including the Honda CRX, the Civic, the Civic Del Sol and more Integras. When it came out the B16a engine had a power output of 160 hp. Having a displacement of 1.6 liters this meant that the b16 hit he magical figure of 100 hp per liter of engine displacement. At that time the competition wasn't even close to this power output. How did the b16 engine manage such a power output? The answer VTEC!
As you probably know VTEC stands for variable valve timing and lift electronic control. And what it essentially does is provide an engine with two camshaft profiles instead of one. In the case of an dual overhead camshaft engine like the b16 it provides the engine with four camshaft profile instead of two, two for the intake, and two for the exhaust. Honda's VTEC managed to eliminate one of the major constraints of engine design. Engineers were forced to compromise for decades and choose a camshaft that has good idle, torque and fuel efficiency in the low and mid-range and decent performance in the high rpm range. VTEC changed the game by allowing large camshaft lift and duration in the high rpm range and good idle and driveability in the low rpm range.
Honda's VTEC technology actually started with a motorcycle. The first mass produced variable valve timing from Honda was called REV and was found on the 1983 Honda CBR 400. It operated two valves below 9000 rpm and four valves above 9000 rpm. It proved that variable valve timing could be mass produced and that it had actual benefits for economy and performance.
When you look at the specs list of the b16 engine and remember that it hit the market in 1989 things become really impressive. It also reveals another fact, the fact that Honda was kicking ass in Formula 1 in the late 80s, and many of those racing spec technologies trickled down to the b16. Great attention to detail was given to everything by the man behind VTEC in cars and his team of engineers. This man was Ikuo Kajitani, and he recalls that developing a 100 hp per liter engine at the time seemed like a dream. The dream was eventually made possible with incredible dedication and hard work that gave birth to the b16 engine, a legendary small displacement high performance engine that not only had 100 hp per liter, but was reliable and became legendary for the abuse it could handle. The wild cam on the b16a has 10.7 mm of lift on the intake. The wild cam on the b16b has 11.5 mm on the intake. This was a race only spec at the time. Even the BMW S14 which was a homologation engine has only 10 mm of lift on the intake cam. The b16a also had dual valve springs, a special alloy and surface and heat treatment of the camshafts, a very high compression of 10.2-10.2 (10.8 on the b16b) and much much more. By the way, the different version of the b16a, the b16a2, b16a3, b16a5, and b16a6 are pretty much the same engine. The differences are minor and are down to camshaft profiles, ecu tunes, compression and the different markets where they were exported to.
When it comes to tuning, the b16 is one of the most tuned engines in history. Countless builds have been done, turbo, twin turbo, supercharging, twin charging, nitrous, all motor, everything has been done. Every b16 tuning guide imaginable has been written. The b16 aftermarket is still very much alive and these engines are still being built today, despite being 30 years old. If that is not a testament to the greatness of the b16 engine design, than nothing is. By far the most popular thing to do nowadays is to turbo the b16. Despite it having an open deck aluminum block the b16's weakest link is the b16 owner. Many people crank up the bosst of the b16, rely on a weak tune and hope for big power. The result is most often a blown engine and a loud angry owner trying to convince everyone how weak the b16 is and how it shouldn't be boosted without block guards, sleeves and every possible overkill mod. Of course this is wrong. People have pushed the stock b16 block with nothing but forged pistons and a turbo to 450-500 hp.
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Hondas, slow, safe, reliable cars so the youngins don't hurt themselves while they learn to drive. Like dull knives and safety scissors.
driving 4 answers hey you remind me of the guy visiting the boosted bois
B16B is a destroked tall deck b18 block so a different near perfect r/s ratio. also the reason for the different pistons and rods. with retarded agressive cams and dual vual springs on just the b18c and b16b and gsr b18c5
28:50 My "Big 16G" turbo on my 4G63T would NOT lag much at all! Despite high CFM and ~21+ PSI of boost! Besides, I could launch with the turbo fully spooled, or drop a gear if I mean to accelerate quickly - which ppl would do anyway.
God damn I wish I still had that Talon!
You should do a series on legendary unreliable engines as well.
Definitely! That's an idea, to cover some of the epic lemons out there. Will be fun 🤭
@@d4a it would definitely give many oppertunities for jokes.
As a 7M owner I am scared by this comment :P
@@d4a the worst modern 4cyl of all time is the late 90s early 2000s naturally aspirated 2.5 boxer from subaru. these engines made Subaru famous for the headgasket issue. also these engines are a bitch to change the gaskets on so that makes a recipe for disaster
N54 😬
Thanks proof HONDA b series was made by god best 5 mins video ever
Lol. I know I didn't know a 5 min video could be so informative
Hahaha
Was a little side project. Still got big things coming.
You forgot to mention Jesus drives a Honda Accord.
Totes yeet yo :D
"I do not speak of my own Accord"
God drives an s2000
@@graysondick337 wrong, God drives a CRX hence its old nickname "God's Chariot".
Yea a d series to be humble but when it's time for business Type R EG
Forgotten weapons : gun jesus
Iconic engines : engine jesus
The mechanical holy trinity
We need to find the third
Its Junkie Jezus, hallowed be thy name. The one who comes through with the goods when all other connections have fallen short. HALLELUJAH!!
Magnificent comparison
Thank you for saying that tuning is the most important part of boosting. It’s very sad how many people will blame the sleeves when they simply could’ve gotten a better tune. As a Honda fanboy I approve!
That's some real talk my dud ! Proper build proper tune 😎
Honda was light-years ahead of all other manufacturers during the days of the B-Series engines. Lightning struck twice with the release of the K-Series engine. Every automaker since has tried to copy V-TEC with poor results. Honda has always been the King of the small engine and benchmark for reliability.
Seems they'll be the king of the large engine too (by proxy) when the V8 K48 comes out... although they do make some of the best v6's too... so maybe they have been all along without us knowing :P
Toyota was the only other company that had it work. The 2ZZ is a great engine and it's clear as day that VVTL-i is a great thing, much like VTEC
@@loganamurray64 yea but the ZZ engines arent as nearly reliable as the B or K series
@@UAE_8100 ZZ's are still really reliable, theres tons of 1ZZ's past 300-400k and I've seen numerous 2ZZ's past 300k as well
@@loganamurray64 yea maybe but overall the B engines are in a very different league, like almost 4g63 league, zz engines are comparable to D series
I never thought about it. But the b series is such a handsome looking engine. It’s truly timeless. That aspect of it makes me feel like the first version of this video was the correct one
The Honda fan boy section was brilliant!
If you're planning on running NOS, remember to reinforce the floorpan so you don't blow the welds on the intake and cause danger to the manifold.
If you do though, just contact me. Me and the mad scientist can rip apart the block and replace the pistons rings you fried.
I love the b series so much I have had mine for 17 years and counting long live the bseries
Enrique Alvarez how much miles?
@@yeezy7905 car has over 400,00 miles on it's second engine. Still has original trans and ac compressor
Enrique Alvarez at what mileage did you change the engine?
@@yeezy7905 around 225k but it wasn't bad I just upgraded
Amen!
Iconic and an advance engine in it's time. Imagine hearing vtec crack early 90s? Super advance engine! And the valve cover looks great, looks like a modern valve cover for a 88-89 engine, all the way to 2000.
It's funny, modern valve have gone backwards in terms of aesthetics. They look like shit now!
@@Kj16V yeah today's valve covers are plastic we miss those times looking at the bonnet of our cars B16A B18C SR16VE SR20DE 4AGE 16 4AGE 20V 3SGE B6ZE valve covers made of aluminium and metal not plastic crap
Usually you can't see the valve covers anyway because there is that plastic engine cover on top. It of course has a purpose- it damps out some noise.
@@nerd1000ify I know the purpose of that cover but It makes the engine look more like a piece of plastic and a little bit ugly in my opinion
@@giancarlolugo9586 I agree, it hides the true workings of the engine and makes it more of a magic box that nobody understands.
I’ve had a B16a powered 90 dx hatch for 17 years and it’s held up to some crazy abuse and still sounds and runs great. Honda makes a solid engine.
Another solid episode. Its a ton of work to get the fact checking and presentation to this level and we all appreciate it.
I can't speak for the newer Hondas, but the spirit of Soichiro Honda is alive and well in my little reliable stock CRX Si. I bought this Honda 30 years ago and 333,000 miles later it starts every day with no issues, purrs like a kitten. Can you blame us for loving these machines? Honda, on and on...
Out of all the honda engines the B16 was most fun to drive. Plan on building a B16B for my next engine.
Not sure who is here all these years later. But I had a 91 Integra with a b16a and I do want to say that if you looking to boost it is very reliable if tuned properly but make sure to get pistons like he said :) and aftermarket head gasket with ARP head studs to keep from that head separating from the bottom end :) With that it’s insanely fun and quite good with reliability!!
My first engine swap was actually the B16 ugly step-brother, the (twin cam) ZC in my 91 Civic back in the late '90s... good times, LOL! Enjoyed your video
Brilliant video bud , loved the beginning 😂😂 I’m a big Honda enthusiast, love the brand but I have owned other jdm hero’s but a few years back I decided Honda is the manufacturer for me, love their history, their passion for their products. Owning a fd2R gives me such a proud feeling ,definitely my dream car . Again I really enjoyed the video . The jokes were on point but believe me , we are not all like that , I’m a proper Honda enthusiast and respect and like a lot of cars . Cheers bud.
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪
Had a stock VTI-R Vtec EK civic. If it wasn't for the older stock AE93 corolla with the 4AGE that I'd owned earlier I would have been impressed. But the older 4AGE Toyota just seemed more urgent, more fun. Both outstanding machines of their day, but the non camshaft timing tech 4AGE gave me more fizz "down there"
Nice video !
I have my Civic EK4 since 2003 and it has 206000km and still running strong with skunk2 stage1 cams.
I love it !
One thing you don't mention is that these engines come with one of the most hacked and tunable stock ECUs ever made. Download HTS, burn a chip and for under 100$ you have more features than a lot of standalones. 300$ if you want realtime tuning instead of burning chips. Dual low/hi cam maps 24x20 for ign and fuel, tps based vtec, pwm boost w/boost by gear, 2step/rpm limits, general purpose IO, traction control, flex fuel..so much
Keep in mind that, although the B16B is technically a ‘B16’, it is NOT a B16A.
It is actually a destroked B18C5 rather than a souped up B16A. As such, it uses the taller B18C block and longer rods. This gives it a better rod ratio than the B16A (1.83:1 vs 1.74:1) for lower piston side loading and internal stresses at high RPM. Of course, the B16B was never a terribly popular engine for swapping due to the fact that it costs almost as much as a B18C5, which has greater power and torque.
Great Video Brother! My first new car was a 1989 Civic Hatch. I put over 350,000 on it before I sold it ! The Engine was Bullet Proof!
Keep up the Great Work on Your Videos!
Marty from the Jersey Shore...
I had a b16a in my DA integra i had so much fun back in 2002. Then I did a 1.7L gsr swap in the DA integra. Then in 2010 I did a ep3 kseries swap then I went with a k24bottom end and a k20A head had so much fun with the Kseries
This is the best engineering youtube channel! IN DEPTH INFO!!!
This is an insane amount of detail. I don't know what all your sources were but you did a great job of putting it all together. Kudos.
5:00 Honda fans : ight imma head out
😂🤣
Difference between maniacal fanboys and fans.
I'm a Nissan fan but I will always secretly like Hondas more
Just bought ek4 civic, thanks for making this much information available so clearly and easy.
Stock b16 owner here. Great video and great knowledge! Thanks you so much!
Love the b series but I’ve been building a turbo h22 awd civic hatch gotta give the h series some love it’s always the k and the B
There will be a video on the H22 as well!
The H series took everything from the B series to a new level.
I'd love to drop a high comp H into my 1991 civic... but it needs a lot of exterior and interior work, and a handful of prayers. 😂
Love the Honda engines, love the old Hondas in particular.
As a Honda fan and tuning maniac, my life purpose is an awd s2000 f20c or f22c. The best production engine EVER! Now, good luck to find an adequate engine that doesn't come from a crash. Perhaps a CTR limited edition awd conversion and building would be awesome too
I've heard that people are making over 250 horsepower in B series engines now a day. This shows how ahead of their time these engines were. (:
I'm a motorcycle lover but i love engines. I restored my dads 20 years old honda wave 100 which is a low CC's square engine but i upgraded the block to a 56mm bore and retained its stroke to 49.5mm. Upgraded its valves from 24mm intake and 19mm exhaust to a 28mm intake and 24mm exhaust. Same camshaft but with harder spring for high rpms and minimizing valve float. And it works great in low to mid rpm but lacking in high rpm but my dad loves it's performance. After i bought a 4 valve head with 6.5 camshaft lift and a 19mm in 17mm ex its performance boost matching those 150ccs 2valve engines with its peak but suffer in low rpms and its torque kick in at 6000rpms so i switch to the 2 big valve design for city and offroad performance.
Can you please definitely do a series on the Honda H series of engines it would be really nice if you could absolutely do that
I once had a 99 Civic hatch with a B16A... the guys I got it from done a stock rebuild... they gapped the rings for a turbo build though...used gsr cams... and a lot of other supporting mods... they hit the tuning on the head.... their claim was it was putting out around 400 wheel horsepower...(I guestimate 375-385)... it sure did feel like it.. I've owned many powerful V8 cars in my time... but this was probably one of the fastest four-cylinder cars I've ever owned... strange feeling when you're running 80 miles an hour and the front tires just melt right off in 3rd gear.....fun times...!!!.. of course I'm not one of those you mentioned at the beginning of the video....lol... I like all different types of engines....
b16a2 is soo much fun but i also love that j30a5 extra torque and power never hurts.
As a Honda boy, you’re not wrong about the Honda community me personally, I like to talk or am open to talk about all types of engines
I' m new on this Channel...but...you're great. Wonderful explanation and documentation really deep.
Ciao from Italy.👏👏👏
Love this series buddy. Keep it going strong.
May this be the best video you've made yet? Love ur passion dude, its shared
Very informative of the vid regarding the B serious technical data that I seldom/ never got in other vid, thanks much.
I think the B17 deserves a video of it's own, as well.
You’re intro is great. Lol. I actually come from the other side of the table. Where we like every other brand but honda but lately the b and k series has grown on me and I’m seriously contemplating to see what all this fuss is about for my next project
I got my 2000 civic SI with 44k original miles. I just did a b18c1 turbo swap up to 600hp. Obviously this car will never be racing. Hoping to sell in a future for a good pay. I mean legends never die. Mine is still like new condition
Love this series, possibly even more now that it has my b16b in the series, but I didn't hear anywhere that the b16b and the b18c5 are the same block, which is why you can stroke a b16b to 2.2, which is crazy. That + turbo is my plan, although I'm $14k+ into my car and its still in pieces in the garage, waiting on more $ for more parts, it never ends.
Yeah, I did forget the part about the block which I very much regret. There's a lot of info in these vids and sometimes some of it escapes. I know how it is to have a project in pieces and lots of money in it. I have a little video on the topic that might help a bit: ua-cam.com/video/ikteLvWmCK8/v-deo.html
Best of luck to you and I hope you get to see your build on the road soon!
i love this series man keep it up!
I love how you did that audio transition at the beginning lol, it was clever.
I'm a engineer and a B series Fan, i like your content its full of info i just take it all i even learn stuff, thats a true informative video just continue to do those impressive videos ! Do the B18 i'm waiting for it ! U got my subscribe !
Honda b engines or Volvo b engines
Honda always made impressive small displacement NA engines. My utmost respect goes to them. Also, the S2000 and NSX (original). aarrgh!!!. And considering I am an S54, Rotary and Busso fanboy, that is a lot of praise. I truly missed out on those 2, I was too young to afford them then, and now that I am older, I cannot afford their skyrocketing prices :-( . Don't feel too bad though, Even though they got away, I still got my dream machines with S54, 13B and 3SGTE engines inside :-) Maybe one day, who knows. ;-)
Your videos are very instructive man! Keep going like that! I would like to see from you a video about H series honda!!!! it would be fantastic
GREAT video!!! I am a lover of Naturally Aspirated engines!! I would love to see a video on the N/A K20C2 2.0L civic engine (base model engine for tenth generation civic2016-present) All i see are videos on K20C1 or the Type R turbo 2.0 engine...
keep up the great work!
Wow you need more subs dude. Great info and great video. Way better then those million sub channels who think they funny when all you want is info on a motor! Just subbed man
Back in 05 when i was junior i bought a 94 civic coupe and swapped a b16 in .i still miss that car
Interesting and helpful information, the b20 would be the perfect video for your channel
Awsome channel mate 🎉 good on you. Thanx
Cant tell you how many b series ive built. Most times the only thing ive changed were the pistons, rods, head studs, and fuel system. Other than that all stock and many over 450-600hp. One of which i daily drove 2 years.
aluminum block was sleeved from the factory but probably isn't sufficient for north of 500hp. also it makes sense the fuel rail won't flow enough fuel for high hp builds because they were not designed to flow that much fuel.
if you haven't already I would like to see the rotary engine on this series.
Don't love it, don't hate it. I prefer the b18 because of the increased torque if we are talking only b series, of course the K series is a different story. Good video. I enjoyed it.
Good one, great video, very funny and informative
I love all your videos, do a video on the H series I’d like to learn about that
Your best video yet!
May I suggest the audi 5v 4cyld engine....
All jokes aside they are the best engines ever produced!!!!!!
Interesting fact: The B16B actually use the taller B18 block and therefore have the best rod/stroke ratio of any B series, and can also handle more Revs and actually also has the highest redline/revlimiter.
Fun closing fact: B17 1,7L with a different crank also exist.
Watched this video when it first came out, I miss building my b16's, b18's, b20vtec's and ls vtecs but I'm on to Mazdaspeed now, MZR DISI engines
The turbo charged Honda lawnmower at 22:00 was bad ass!
I had a EJ with a D series and when I used to take it to a back street garage for a plug change I used to have to remind them that cylinder 4 was where cylinder 1 was so dont mess up re attaching the leads. They don't believe it runs backwards till they lift the bonnet and see the auxiliary belt and timing belt on opposite sides. You can feel the difference, less driveline inertia, much more direct feel to the engine
The Honda CBR 400 w/REV is my new favorite motorcycle.
A very gifted presenter! I predict an expansive future ....
Thought I chime into what you said about the camshafts. All honda performance vtec engine's use 3 different cam profiles per camshaft known as the primary, secondary and middle lobes. The first two are the smaller lobes and are asymmetric meaning the primary is bigger and has an overall different profile then the secondary and that is to create a tornado like swirl in the combustion chamber for better fuel efficiency. And then the middle being the vtec lobe for higher rpm operation. So in total there are 6 different lobe profiles.
b18a/b vs b18c1 block has oil squirter with girdle. pr3 b16 crankshaft. pct rods or modified h22 or its h23 rods but u would deck the LS block. by a couple mm.. ctr pct pistons.. pr3 b16a head itr valve train plus portimg. itr ex cam, ctr intake cam. THIS COMPILATION IS THE B16B CTR a destroked higher revimg itr with less displacement.
OMG 😂 i actually fell out of my office chair laughing at the Honda Fan Boy segment ... PRICELESS!
i had a honda integra dc2 which had a b18 engine 😍 fantastic car and especialy when vtec kicked in yo 😲 great fun one of my favorate cars 👌
Love your videos bro
Great video!
Now I drive my 2nd Civic EJ with D14A4 engine, and this is my 4th Honda... I dream about B16 and make it like new, and i will make this dream come true. Honda, The power of dreams.
Lol, You are awesome..I love your humor. I also really appreciate what you do..Keep up the great work..
Being someone who put a built B18 swap in my 91 Crx Hf back in 2004 and how deeply I loved that car as it had the best of everything , the B series Honda motors truly are one of the top 5 best engine families in a mass produced vehicle ever made PERIOD and btw the vtec Bseries motors came with dual valve springs to avoid having valve floating from occuring when at high Rpm's , also just a question and I very well may be wrong here on this one didnt the B16B have the exact same bore size as its big brother the B18c5 ITR engones ? I always was under the impression that they both used the exact same engine block , that being the block already being used in the 1.8L Integra Type R's , diffeerences for the b16b that i thought were only cams , pistons rods and crank shaft, so i always thought the B16b was the only b16 ever made that had a different bore size than the rest. I may very well be wrong though.. Got a suggestion for another fantastic nearly indestructible , easy and cheap to maintain engine family that built itself a true legacy of being indestructable and I think would make a good video is the inline 6cyl family of Jeep engines starting with the old AMC 3.6 or 3.7 engine , then next they built a 4.2L version that came in the Jeep CJ5's , CJ7, CJ8 and 87-90 Jeep Wrangler YJ, then in 1987 AMC created the latest and what would bevome the mpst well known and famously indestructable inline 6 which was the 4.0L inline 6, which they initially put in the 1987-1990 Jeep Cherokee and Commanchees , then it became even tougher and considerably more reliable when Chrysler bought out AMC Chrysler revised and updated rhe 4.0 creating the 1991 4.0 High Output which came in 91-2001 Jeep cherokees , 91-92 Jeep Commanchees , 91-2005 Jeep Wrangler TJ and the 93-2005 Grand Cherokees. Unfortunately the 4.0 inline 6 was no longer produced after 2005 supposedly according to Chrysler because they couldn't any longer modify it to conform to more and more increasingly strict nation emissions laws and restrictions on automobiles in the US , but that 4.0 straight 6 def is one of the top 5 most reliable and indestructible engines ever made period.
Thank you for your videos I am learning a great deal! 👍👻
One reason Honda blocks last so long is the top ring is barrel faced,so there is no ridge on the top of the bore just carbon and varnish.
Awesome video... loved the disclaimer in the beginning! 😹
The engine at 22:03 is H/F Series, the distributor is on the exhaust cam side of the engine. Other than that this was a fantastic video! - A Honda Fanatic
Do you mean this one? ua-cam.com/video/TjnRz9BAS9Q/v-deo.html
Thanks, glad you liked the video, and didn't get mad at my humour attempt :)
Your video's are hilarious....in a good way...Top shelf!
Twin charging a B16, that's sound very very interesting
I'm car mechanic work at usde car dealership in Tucson but I learn a lot tink after I saw your video mashallah 👏 good work
You should cover the H,F, and the Frankenstein G23 engines. Advantages, disadvantages, issues with or without tuning. All the good stuff. Great work keep it up
I had an EF with a B16 swap and a Jackson supercharger. It was a fun little car.
Would love to see a series on a B18 :) otherwise love your vids!
liked and subbed, good videos man
Great videos. Opel c20xe and c20let maybe?
Hahaha this is amazing! Glad I came across these videos!
46 people that cant afford vtec!
And i loved the begening of this video.. your never gonna change my mind dont try!
I have driven b16 what an entertaining 9k revving engine. I start to really like your videos. Again nice video.Mabe next boxer ,Wankel,Audis 20v .......
My uncle and I put a b16b type r in a coupe the other day. It was pulling our fat asses up NY mountain roads like nothing at about 135mph and still climbing. It's a very impressive engine. And it sounds like a motorcycle
Christian De Vos Yeah bro my Acura Integra 1990 cruised 120 mph with a a car full of five young men without breaking a sweat back in 1991
b16 is basically the same as b18c5 ( integra type R ) except with smaller displacement. what makes it good and better than integra gsr is the head. the head on those engine has better air flow. its basically hand crafted like port and polish. B series, people like the layout looks of the engine. the square and flat cover makes it looks clean.
Love your vids bro. Would it be possible to do a video about LADA engines/cars? I had a VAZ 2101 when I was a teen and that car was super fun to drive. Thanks!
Great Video! Will you do the b18c5? also the k20a?
I think B16B rods are longer....not lighter. B16B uses the taller P72 Engine block developed for the Integra. The result is a higher rod-stroke ratio that reduces piston acceleration at TDC and cylinder stress at high rpm....But I could be wrong.
Hey dude this is a great video, have you every thought about doing a video on BMW’s VANOS system 👌🏼👌🏼🤓
I paused at the end of the first part brilliant video and could you please do a f20c video 😁😁
Beginning funny as heck, good ass informative video!
That audio is like the b16.
Very Noice stuff
Take a shot every time he says game changer lol