The world was more than ready, the world just didn't like getting burned by SEGA with the 32x and Saturn. Hence why the PS2 that only came out 4 months later turned into a juggernaut.
Thank you for having the PS1 audio coming from the left channel & Dreamcast audio coming from the Right. Such an amazing little touch, took me a minute or 2 to realise, you must have put so much work into this!
Thank you so much for checking this out and for the kind words:) This video in particular did take quite a bit of time but seeing comments like yours really makes it worth the time it took.
@@evshrug I appreciate you saying that. I've had people literally cuss me out for splitting the audio in unhinged rants lol. So it's great to hear feedback like this:)
@@RetroComparisons dude, eff them punks! I hadn't noticed that yet, but I haven't watched much of the video, yet. It's saved in my watch later, though, and I'll definitely be going back to it. Even without noticing the audio trick(which is damn cool), I can tell this video took some work.
@@suiken3149 Very true but it's not necessarily being about what's a fair comparison in terms of one beating the other but more about the historical context of the improvements from one gen to the next.
@@TeddyBelcher4kultrawide keep dreaming lol. Phil Spencer just recently came out and said that they are losing the console wars. Also said and I quote "if we don't get more people to subscribe to X box live ," "game pass" "that Microsoft is gonna give up on producing consoles all together". Looks like x box in on the verge of becoming the next dream cast , out of business. And another prey to Sony . They scratching their heads and looking for deals just to stay alive and keep afloat with Sony. Also what do you mean x box still got it ? PlayStation has beaten x box -4 consoles now when it comes to exclusives, consoles sales and hardware sales . 😂😂 With the only acception being the x box 360.
@@TeddyBelcher4kultrawide This year alone PlayStation has beaten x box and Nintendo on sells . 11.5 million more in profits compared to those systems this year alone . It took x box 2 years after the PlayStation 5 was released to also add gyro scope and haptic feed back to their controllers .
This is one of my favorite comparisons since it’s cross-generational. I love how many titles we have to demonstrate how developers had to approach the unique hardware of each console, and as a lover of both of these, I really enjoy seeing them side by side. Thank you so much for your channel and all your work
Thank you so much for the kind words and for checking this out:) I'm fascinated too by how things change from one generation to the next and this is one of those really interesting ones as both consoles were commercially relevant at the same time even if not for a super long time.
@@RetroComparisons No thanks needed! Yes, the commercial relevance is the neatest factor here. Like I said, I have a love for both consoles, and it's thanks to the PS1's unrivaled ubiquity during the era paired with the Dreamcast's lack thereof that we saw this profound overlap. VG history is one of my favorite things, and I'm sure you can appreciate that too, haha.
I sincerely miss Dreamcast. It was a major part of my childhood gaming experience. I always compared it to arcade graphics but at home. Playing games like HydroThunder and crazy taxi at my friends place was SURREAL
As a kid I always dreamed of having an arcade cabinet at home. The Dreamcast was the first console to truly feel like it was on par with arcade graphics and was mind blowing.
Games on DREAMCAST are really improved. 60FPS and more detailed colors and textures are really making a difference. In the years of release, that could be less noted. Because of the old tube TVs. Now with high resolution, HDR, and more color capable tvs, monitors, hardware and stream speed and quality, this is really a huge gap between PS1 and DREAMCAST.
Very well said. It still looked better at the time but most people weren't getting the best signal out of either system back then. I'd guess that the overwhelming majority of people were using composite cables for both in the 90s/early 00s. That VGA output on the Dreamcast is a thing of beauty and still looks great to this day on modern TVs.
@@yty-p9k but Sega Saturn is already a more powerful console than ps1, maybe cuz is hard to programming to that most devs released their games on Dreamcast Wich is easy pezy lemon squeazy, most of ps1 games has versions on ps2 that are the same released on PC, like tony hawk 3 too, so, I think is difficult problem is nice to see those comparisons anyway
considering that yeah . sadly it looks like poop half of time . but damn tony hawk pro skater was very well optimized on ps 1 . these versions are not much diferent
of course. still there is nothing here that really looks good. All the games on DC here looks very low poly, dated and some even plain ugly. Which is not odd as its pure PS1 ports with little to no effort to improve the games apart from them running in higer rez- framerate and textures. the rest is just same PS1 assets. an insult to the DC
This is such praise for the PS1. Comparing it to a next gen console and still holds up pretty well. Arguably for some of these games the rough graphic style aged really well on PS1 , blends elements well. While the Dreamcast has this "too clean" look. And some games just looks better on PS1? Like Test Drive V-Rally.
First off it's quite the dedication to put together this video so good job. My takeaway having owned both of these devices when they were released the PlayStation holds up well against the more powerful and much later released Dreamcast on many titles. I spent so much money back in these days chasing the most powerful gaming system, including the super expensive 3DO, SegaCD, TurboGrafx 16, and nearly purchased the Neo•Geo as well but the games were INSANELY expensive at around $200 USD per. Hell I purchased the N64 just to play Mario64, $200 to play one game...I had it bad 😂
I've heard of the "PC Master Race" on Reddit but you were a console master race back then lol! I think you made a wise choice not getting the AES as I don't think that console was worth it unless you're really into fighting games. It's funny you mention the Turbografx because I think that's the system most close to the Dreamcast in a historical sense. When the PC Engine came out in '87 it was way more graphically advanced than its main competition of the SMS & NES but then got stuck competing against the next gen of consoles not too long after that. Thanks for checking this out and for the kind words:)
@@Danakedgamer0523 I can’t remember the beeps. Maybe back then but I haven’t actually taken it back out the box in years. I need to get an HDMI converter for it to connect to modern devices. Any recommendations for the cable?
The 640x480 resolution of the Dreamcast actually makes a nice difference with the 2d games especially in VNs/RPGs. Most of these titles have nice differences and good graphical improvements. Straight PS1 ports without enhancements are ugly on Dreamcast and you can really tell what devs had the budget/time to make their ports shine.
The Dreamcast had such a crisp output and that resolution did suit these games well. That was one of the downfalls though like you mentioned when it was nothing more than an upscaled port of a PS1 game.
Yeah, people complain about games getting remastered over and over these days, but these straight up ports were basically the same thing, just higher res versions of older games and if we were lucky better frame rates (although the vast majority still are locked at 30fps) I feel like this ended up hurting to some degree since I'm sure many people were expecting a more noticeable jump in graphics. The higher resolution wasn't even that big of a deal back then due to most people still playing on CRTs via composite.
@@RetrOrigin wtf I noticed right away when I got a ps2 that the graphics looked ugly on CRT compared to how Dreamcast, Xbox, and most of the time Gamecube looked on CRT.People who played more than Playstation were big on graphics back than.Those games were not remastered it just that playstion came out with weaker hardware twice.
Some of the remasters are really kickass but I don't like it when 2D pixel art is changed or replaced. Simply displaying a lot of these old 240p games in 480p is already a mindblowing upgrade. That said, I only saw a handful of games where Dreamcast wasn't superior. Its specialty was high resolution(for the time) 2D and damn did it ever do that well. I love Dreamcast because of its unique niche as an inter-generational console. It's not really 5th gen and not really 6th gen either. It has a ton of games from both and pretty much every release it got was very polished. It wasn't quite as powerful as 6th gen consoles but it had a very simple architecture that was easy to work with. Devs in general seem to have had an easier time squeezing more power out of Dreamcast. For that reason and others, the OG Xbox is sometimes considered its immediate successor. Sega actually had a hand in designing the Xbox. Also, for such a short-lived console it has a really massive library. Such a shame it didn't do better in the US. It had the power to run a lot of later 6th gen titles okay and still had untapped potential. The fact that a lot of really important Dreamcast releases never had an English translation really sucks. Like Mobile Suit Gundam federation vs Zeon DX. The Gamecube was screwed in a very similar way.
Very well said! The Dreamcast really is weird with its timing because it essentially competed with two different generations in its short life. It reminds me a bit of the PC Engine that was made to compete with the NES but within a few years was competing with the Genesis & SNES.
This was awesome! Honestly i didnt realize how much of a graphics boost soul reaver got until i saw this video cause i always thought the cinematics were AMAZING but the game graphics were still ps1. But i was wrong cause 29:04 showed me the difference. Awesome work!
Thanks so much for checking this out! Yeah there's a lot of PS1 games like that where the opening cinema comes on and I'm like "this looks incredible" and then you get the actual game and it's a letdown.
29:00 Fitting that the Dreamcast version of Soul Reaver is to this day the definitive one - you spend the entire game feeding a mirrored Dreamcast logo in the bottom right of the screen on all versions of the game.
Interesting comparison, there is a lot of overlap, and I am quite impressed with how the Ps1games did hold up, in spite games being in an older hardware, since the Dreamcast in theory is on the PS2 league, and the Saturn is the Ps1 equivalent.
It's cause games were still being made with the PS1 in mind first and ported to DC afterwards. So the games were pushing the PS1 pretty hard, but the DC not so much. Because of the DC's 2.5 year lifespan I'd argue it never reached its full potential. Even in a few years the jump in quality from Sonic Adventure to Adventure 2 was immense. Imagine what devs could've squeezed out had the system lasted til 2005 or 2006.
@@RetroComparisons A safe guess would probably be at least some of the stuff we ended up getting put on the Xbox. Xbox games like GunValkyrie and ToeJam & Earl 3 were originally planned for the Dreamcast. Stuff like Shenmue 2, Space Channel 5: Part 2, and Rez would've gotten a proper North American release on DC instead of on the Xbox/PS2 respectively.
@@vitamind.d.fishinsea8570 these ports beside some exceptions were very lazy and pushed quickly to the market. If you compare the best dc and ps the power gap is obvious.
What these kind of vídeos misses a lot is using a proper display (monitor or TV of that era) a lot of these graphics use the limitations of that time to their advantage and It means a lot.
Wow, you really did compare all games, even the ones nobody cares about... Great work! My favourite change is in Soul Reaver, Raziel's model is really a huge upgrade
Thanks for checking this out! Yeah there were a ton of games that I couldn't wait to get through like the visual novels. Soul Reaver looks fantastic on the Dreamcast for sure.
It's interesting seeing how some of the games were pretty much just phoned in for the Dreamcast port by simply running it at higher resolution and framerate without any real asset changes and then others you can really see the big generational difference in capabilities with not just the res and framerate but also poly counts/ texture details, and background details and draw distance. This selection also showcases just how well optimized PS1 was at the end of its generation with some of the titles still looking and running pretty decent next to the DC port even thought its at lower settings. The one game I really notice PS1 had problems on was Shadow Man with massive framerate drops and quite distorted visuals.
It's crazy how lazy some of the ports for the Dreamcast were. Increased display resolution and texture resolution were the only things done on many of those. The Dreamcast could do about 10x the polygons that the PS1 could but devs didn't feel like remaking the models so you still got blocky characters that actually kind of looked worse because they were much clearer at the higher resolution.
It was rather such ports or nothing. Dreamcast user base was rather small and publishers were only doing these ports, because how simple they were. Dreamcast had so much power compared to PS1 that you could take C code of PS1 game and just rewrite API calls to what Dreamcast had. Such games would run at 640x480 with larger draw distance and sometimes better textures, without any hardware specific optimizations. These ports were also made for PC and while GPUs back then were already more powerful to what Dreamcast had, there was a huge gap between low-end and high-end PCs. Such ports could run at PS1 resolution with PS1 graphics on low-end hardware, often in software without 3D acceleration or at 1280x1024 at 100 FPS on high-end GPUs paired in SLI. For some reason there's very few Dreamcast-like games on PC. Games quickly shifted from PS1 ports to PS2 ports. At one moment games required 233 MHz CPU with GPU and few months later it was like 700 MHz minimum, when games started targeting PS2, Gamecube and Xbox.
It really just goes to show that Dreamcast was ahead of its time. I remember when my brother and I had this beast growing up. Legendary console. I wish Sega would step back in the console wars again and bring us a Dreamcast 2. Would be amazing as hell!
Nice demonstration of the power of the Dreamcast. In some rare occasions tho, the blurrier graphics of the Playstation contributes to the ambiance of the game (thinking mostly about Resident Evil 2 and 3).
Those RE games are a great example of what can go wrong with these ports. For the Dreamcast some of it higher resolution but the backgrounds aren't so it's this weird blend. The more blurry graphics of the PS1 do give it that more unsettling feel too.
So many lazy ports :( Too bad, the Dreamcast was much more capable than some of these ports from lazy devs. Thanks for the video, your work is amazing!
Thanks so much for checking this out and for the kind words:) Yeah a lot of these are not the Dreamcast's best showing. I've noticed that theme a lot though with these cross-generational ports on many systems like on the SNES vs PS1 video or even with Sega CD ports of Genesis games.
Huh, that's a neat little thing. In FI Racing Championship, if your car goes into the sand, the sand sticks to your tires because they're hot and gradually clears off as you drive. Attention to detail!
I will need to watch this on the computer. The small split screen on a phone won't do this justice. I will second what Shotgunl has said about lazy high res ports.... Damn cash grabs, I will watch this one tho!!! Simply amazing work and efforts!!!
Just use Gshade with DH_undither with raduis set to 1 an and lum max distance at 0.20 and GTU50 with Screen Width (GTU) set too the MAX and if you are dealing with low color games on gtu50 hit Enable composite conection (gtu) and Disable scanlines, this makes everything look amazing even new games
Thanks so much my friend! Haha yeah there were quite a few lazy ports for sure. BTW I see there's a reply to your comment which I can't read for some reason so if you're the one who wrote that I'm sorry I'm not responding.
Someone seriously needs to recode several of the first person games and make a vr headset for the dreamcast, with things like the dream psu it just might be possible some day
they realy optize thps on psx thats for sure . cant say same about some later psx releases that looks 2 x better on dreamcast and 60 fps . look at td 6 V rally . looks amazing on dreamcast . looks poop on ps 1 lol
Most of the titles on DC were lazy ports. Look at Test Drive Le Mans if devs had the time and budget for two different gen hardware. Makes you wonder if having to cater to the lower powered consoles in today's mixed-power gen holds back current consoles and PC games.
Thanks for this! I've been using Redream a fair bit lately, and have been wondering about PS1 ports. I know of a few, but not of all of them. This is exceedingly useful!
@@RetroComparisons also, it's thanks to your Reddit post that I found the video. I got curious, considering I was playing Dino Crisis, and googled,"PS1 Dreamcast Ports." Little did I know that there are ONE HUNDRED FIFTY-FIVE OF THEM! 🤣😅
@@chuckclark3214Lol! When I was first researching how many crossovers there were I was finding lists with like 10 games, maybe 15. I knew I was in for a lot of work when doing more research and being at 30 games by the letter E.
This was pretty nostalgic, there was so many visual novels that I grew up playing, many I haven't seen since I was a kid, it was a trip through memory lane, and it was also very cool to see how the Dreamcast looked so much better when devs really utilized all its power, it was truly next gen before the PS2.
Whew...another huge console vs console library comparison. I saw it pop up on my notifications just as I was going to call it a night, but I wanted to say that we appreciate the time you put in to put these together, Bill. I'll have to sift through it when I have more time. I know from my experience and your DC vs N64 vs PSX videos that the DC usually wins the comparisions between these two but that sometimes the PSX puts up a surprisingly good fight and/or sometimes the DC is just a higher-res PS1 port with no real benefits beyond clarity and sometimes better performance (and sometimes worse controls). It'll be nice to have all of these in one spot though.
Thanks so much my friend for your support and kind words! The PS1 did put up a good fight in a lot of these. There's a ton that weren't in the series I was doing as there's about 50 - 60 Japanese only games (mostly visual novels) and those of course looked pretty good unsurprisingly. There were a few others too that I somehow missed like Moho which turned out to be a very fun game. I hadn't quite finished the series before calling it off due to my N64 issues and some of those were good too. Of course there were others that were crap like Ultimate Fighting Championship where I spent over 30 minutes to get 30 seconds of footage without my fighter tapping out in the first 5 seconds:/ Anywho, go get some sleep lol! I need to do the same.
I've seen some footage of PS1 emulators that look pretty incredible with all of the upgrades but I'm sure there's even cooler upgrades on Dreamcast emulators. I would be curious to check that out.
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In cases where the game is 3D models over 2D backgrounds, the increased texture resolution and and model detail actually works to the Dreamcast's detriment, as the models and backgrounds are no longer of the same visual fidelity. because while they could upscale the 3D stuff, the 2D assets were locked at their original resolution, as they had no way of re-rendering those at higher ones.
That certainly was one of the downfalls of having the upscaled games without completely re-hauling everything. When that wasn't the case though that VGA output of the Dreamcast really shined.
@@RetroComparisons VGA wasn't really the game changer people misremember it as. You had to buy it separately, and If you had a VGA monitor back in the day, you were probably a PC gamer. Most everyone else was playing Dreamcast on a RF-adaptor or composite cables. Its like the broadband internet adapter. Most people around the world in 1999/2000 were still stuck using a dodgy dialup connection, so internet play was still just a pipe dream.
@@SomeOrangeCat Very true but it did really help future proof the console in the same way that the SMS/Genesis were with native RGB output. Most people at least in North America were playing those with RF or composite too but they look fantastic these days without any mods going through an upscaler.
Clearly, a lot of developers who made PS1 games thought, "Hey, we can basically dump our PlayStation game onto Dreamcast, unchanged, and apply antialiasing to the polygon textures! Done and done!"
Funny enough for some of these ports like Resident Evil i even prefer to play the PS1 version since the dithering effect of the console mesh better with the prerender backgrounds.
Although PSX can be considered a 5th gen console, the Dreamcast probably falls in between 5th and 6th as it was released in 1998 and was pre GPU (hardware T&L) era. Everything was still mostly calculated in the CPU but used the graphics chip for rendering. In that respect a Playstation to Dreamcast conaprison isnt all that unfair.
@@nng1979 I think it would be better to compared late PS1 titles with 90s Dreamcast games, were i think PS1 doesnt have anything to envy or even surprass some early DC titles.
I thank my old childhood friend as the only person I ever knew who had a Dreamcast and introduced me to play it. I cannot believe the Dreamcast failed when it was years ahead of the competition. Wild.
I think the most jarring transition in the video is from Wacky Races to the Disney kart game. The former looks an entire generation ahead of the PS1 version, with a beautiful cel-shaded look and pretty much completely different assets... and then Magical Racing Tour just looks like the PS1 version running at 2x resolution. It's a shame that many developers treated the Dreamcast as an afterthought and did the bare minimum. Still, better than not supporting it at all like EA I suppose...
this whole 3D style of Dreamcast is very good looking to my eye and I love it. all these early polygon systems like the Dreamcast, the SEGA model 2, SEGA model 3, atomiswave, naomi arcade system. don’t know why but I just love the style.
If you are a fighting game player & loved fighting games from this era, Dreamcast wins hands down vs Playstation. They played exactly the same as their arcade counter parts without cutting any animation frames and sometimes had online play. Besides that, having more horse power, disc space and higher resolution meant less concessions to be made. Hell, just frame rate being more consistent is a large improvement.
Did you use the same av output for both consoles? I mean composite for both ? because I think you used HDMI converter for DC and regular composite for PS, am I correct?
These did use different methods. The PS1 is using a SCART cable through the OSSC while the Dreamcast is using the DCHDMI mod to tap into the VGA output and it's being upscaled through that.
@@RetroComparisons No offence but this makes no sense. 1/ your PS1 cable isn't great quality or your capture card or OBS is doing a terrible job, I'm running PS1 through RGB and OSSC and it's way sharper than that. 2/ the DCHDMI does not tap into VGA, it takes the signal directly as digital signal and keeps them digital the entire way. VGA is RGBHV with is analog. So, in your case, PS1 goes through ADC (Analog to Digital Conversion) and your DC is pure digital throughout. A good, fully shielded RGB (RGsB, RGBS or even RGBs) cable will look VERY close to a digital output when going through a correctly set up high quality ADC device such as the OSSC. If you're curious, look into a DC block diagram, you'll see, the VGA is being generated by the Digital Encoder (a DAC) whereas the HDMi mods get their video directly from the graphic chip. Within a 1080p container you can fit both the PS1 in 2x scaling and the Dreamcast in 1x. Looks like that's what you've been doing. However, falling short of integer scaling will create a mess and I believe that it might be the reason why your PS1 output looks so soft here. It might not be perfectly scaled to 2x in OBS or equivalent.
I would say, that Dreamcast was between PS and PS2, because of those graphics and better details. I do have one and it's brilliant to play on a old CRT monitor ✨ Long live the Dream... 🌀
Despite being originally made for DC and Arcade some few ports such as Capcom VS SNK Millenium Fight 2000 (or PRO) still holds up on PS1 and are just barely worse.
I was actually pretty surprised how well some of these PS1 games held up. I think a lot of the 2D games did age better than the 3D ones though. Having said that, I kind of prefer the gritty look of games like Resident Evil on the PS1.
First of all, you deserve a subscribe for your efforts. Secondly, the Dreamcast was generally the most powerful home system during 1998-1999, outperforming high-end PC hardware in most ways during that era. That being said, the Dreamcast's commercial failure has been attributed to several factors, including competition from the Sony, limited third-party support, and the earlier failures of the 32X and Saturn having tarnished Sega's reputation. In retrospect, reviewers have celebrated the Dreamcast as one of the greatest consoles.
Thanks so much for the kind words and your support! Yeah the Dreamcast was such a beast for its time. When you think back 10 years ago we had the PS4 & Xbox One and games didn't look that much different than today. When you look back 10 years from when the Dreamcast came out most people were playing the NES or Master System. What a leap in tech!
@@RetroComparisons Indeed, when i saw the quality of the Dreamcast on your video, i thought you were running it in an emulator and upscaled the hell out of the quality lmao
@@levianthony3944 yep. Funny thing though being FF7R one of the best looking games out there, it used pre rendered background when you are looking at the lower quarters
que gran merito de la ps1 porque a pesar de sus limitaciones tecnologicas pudo sacar juegos y graficas muy avanzadas a su epoca, tambien la dreamcast pudo mejorar lo que parecia inmejorable de la ps1, por encima de las limitaciones de ps1, dreamcast pudo revivir con mejores graficas, efectos de luz, sonido y frame rate mucho mas fluidos, claramente se ve que los juegos ya andaban en 60fps de manera nativa en dreamcast, incluso algunos juegos se siguen viendo igual de sorprendentes que el dia en que fueron lanzados, especialmente los juegos de lucha de capcom, todos los king of fighters, de lujo
@@2Bleicher ciertamente le ayudo, pero también su formato CD de 700mb fue definitivo, ya que en ese momento se puso muy de moda los cds de música quemada, los vcd, creo que salió en el momento justo, sino pues hay tienes de ejemplo la Saturn y el mega CD de SEGA, un gran fracaso comercial
I honestly believe that the Dreamcast is the most overlooked and tragic game system EVER MADE, the sheer power and ability of the system, coupled with the revolutionary online capabilities and the VMU being it's own whole AMAZING thing just makes me cry at night, I remember FINALLY saving up enough as a kid to buy one used off my buddy only to find out that Sega was abandoning the system all together and that no NEW games would come out for it, but MAN, such a tragic case, the raw POWER of it is impressive even to this day!!!!...
I never really paid attention to the dream cast now i see what was a mistake, them dream cast counterparts look amazing compared to the PS1, thankfully some of them were also on PS2 but still i might have to track down a dream cast now :D
Some of these comments are from viewers who clearly aren't gamers. Dreamcast was released 4 years later and they wonder why DC looks better. 😂 If anything, this video shows just how good the PS1 was for it's time.
Agreed; I don't completely understand the need for a side-by-side of non-competing consoles. It would have made way more sense to have a side-by-side of PS1 vs Saturn, those we're actually same gen competing consoles. DS was supposed to be a a direct competitor to PS2; and had they waited for the PS2 to launch they actually may have made some headway against Sony. The PS2 stumble hard out of the gate with all the full screen antialiasing issues; when DS had none of those issues.
Wasn't Dreamcast a PS2 comparison? I'm curious why you're comparing it against a PS1, or not comparing PS2 vs PS1 instead to see the differences between generations. Though maybe those videos were done enough already?
I do want to eventually do a PS1 vs PS2 and a DC vs PS2 comparison at some point. This one in particular fascinated me because there were so many PS1 & N64 games that came out at the same time as the DC and technically competed more years with those consoles than its contemporary 6th gen consoles.
wow dreamcast was really ahead of its time, already producing next gen graphics in 2000, ps1 was cool, but dreamcast was unique, if only they had more exclusives and better game production companies to work with! I had a gamecube, but one of my all time favorite games was sonic adventure 2 battle! Just incredible what they did, Sega is special!
It's so cool that they were putting out these amazing looking games during the heyday of the 5th gen consoles. It's crazy to think that the Dreamcast was released in Japan only 6 days after Ocarina Of Time.
thats really interesting, also crazy to think that Ocarina of time alone was enough to carry Nintendo, aside from Mario Kart and Mario 64.@@RetroComparisons
I remember wanting one and playing it a few times with friends who had the system, but the PS2 was right around the corner for me. I still wish I would have owned a Dreamcast because even when the PS2 was surging, Dreamcast had a lot of great games to offer. Really neat console.
It's such a cool console and with a vastly different library than what the other 6th gen consoles offered it would have been a cool thing to own alongside a PS2, Xbox or GameCube.
Amazing video. A couple games surprised me though. Sno-Cross and Test Drive 6 both look like they run a bit better on the PS1. More consistent framerate and better sense of speed.
The difference though is these consoles competed in stores at the same time for multiple years. That's like comparing VHS to DVD which competed head on even if they were different generations of technology.
@@isaacbarahonahidalgo9427 True, but that's the main focus of my channel. I'm more fascinated by how the same game looks from one generation to the next than comparing same generation games. While I do both on this channel I'd say around 90% of it is focused on inter-generational consoles and was the main intent of my channel when I first started.
The problem with the Dreamcast is that there are not that many games that show the true potential it actually had since most of the games on this platform are just straight ports of the PS1 games but a bit more refined when it comes to graphics and in some cases, even content. Kind of a shame since the Dreamcast could’ve actually put up a good fight against the PS2 if it received a greater number of higher-quality games rather than souped-up PS1 games.
dvd format won sadly . its not like ps 2 was realy more powerfull . etleast we got xbox pads designs which were insipred bye dreamcast pad and some ideas from dreamcast mutliplayer , online functions implemented today gaming
@@revenge1205 absolutely not. C'mon read the entire game list don't be stupid. Clearly there is some conversion Also from pc, but you can't write that the entire lineup was from ps1 or N64 ???conversion. You sound ridiculous, if you don't know nothing about Sega. I must continue??? Virtua fighter 3, berserk, JoJo, every fucking beat em up, sega GT, every fucking shumps, every Gundam, houthdead, phantasy star O, Sakura taisen, virtua striker, virtus tennis, NBA 2kseries, nfl2kseries, none of these are conversion and I could write a lot. So now I understand that you know just 3 games and never touched a real Dreamcast, but don't write that stupids things.
@@revenge1205 620 games on Dreamcast. 145 porting from ps1. Nothing from N64. Clearly you don't know nothing about Sega, never played, never seen or touched a real Dreamcast.
@@francesco6440 For your information, I've known Sega for as long as I can remember and I've also been a Dreamcast owner for 8 years and it is a great console. I really love it, and I’m 90% positive there are more than 145 5th-gen ports. Are you sure nothing was ported from N64? I can’t name all of the games offhand but Army Men Sarge’s Heroes, NFL QB Club 2000/2001, Bass Rush, Hydro Thunder, Episode 1 Racer, and Rush 2049 are just a few examples of games that were released on both N64 and Dreamcast.
Dino Crisis has ULTIMATE HD MOD + REBIRTH (PC), Replaces DirectDraw 5 with DirectX 9 among other stuff Dino Crisis2 is available on PSX & PC REX HD (still not complete) + Classic REBIRTH patches
It's no surprise at allm because of the selective bias that often is forgotten: Games existing on multiple systems that have been around before the stronger system have first been made and optimized for the older one and then where ported to the newer system later. This nearly always means that the newer system won't even be remotely used to it's full potential. For comparing the hardwares' capabilities you would need to check the exclusive game son the later one, or some specifically selected where you know before, that they had been optimized more than to the bare minimum for the later conversion :) This video shows that nearly all these games are just using a higher resolution on the Dreamcast and most have higher fps,. because these are the two things that come mostly automatically by running them on the newer hardware. But you usually won't find crisper textures, higher polygon count more more objects or particles on screen in these conversion. Of couorse the Playstation 1 still was a good system for it's time, maybe the most advaned console ever relative to it's contemporary situation.
Thanks so much! That's definitely a project I'm going to tackle within the next year. There's just as much crossover with the PS2 as the PS1 so it will be really interesting to see how they stack up to each other.
Ps1 wins for grittiness and lighting in most of the horror games. The cleaned up graphics almost did a diservice to some these games. Still loved the Dreamcast though.
F1 World Grand Prix on the playstation has incredible particle effects for the console. But then there's the Dreamcast version that looks like it's running on alien technology by comparison!
For the most part, Dreamcast takes the W, as it should. Seems that some devs, for whatever reason(s), didn't take advantage of the superior hardware. Wonderful comparison btw!
Thanks so much for checking this out! Yeah there's a lot of ports where it's basically just an upscaled PS1 game. A lot of these don't show off the true power of the console.
Did it though?, took the win. After few games my dreamcast stayed in the cabinet for the most part (and I played my PSX) because it got cancelled. And then I moved on to PS2. My Dreamcast is still the cleanest of all my consoles because of how less I used it because of only few (not even 20) games. I still remember when i saw Shenmue trailer, it blew my mind which was the reason i got my DC and Code Veronica. Loved that game and part 2 ofcourse.
What I meant was Dreamcast takes the win for most of these PS1 vs. DC comparisons. PS1 has a much bigger library, which makes it way more valuable than DC.
Don't forget windows CE... 75+ Games used this crap (The DirectX APIs) and they were almost always technically underwhelming, transforming the Dreamcast into a kind of souped up PSX with textures filtering. My Rogue Spear trauma is still going strong.
na verdade é pq a maioria aí são jogos de PS1 que foram portados para o Dreamcast... o DC é sub-utilizado nesses jogos. Mas sim o PS1 fazia coisa muito impressionante, o fato de ter vendido muito fez os desenvolvedores utilizar as capacidades ao máximo e contornar as limitações... coisa q infelizmente nunca aconteceu com o Saturn e até mesmo o Dreamcast que foram abandonados sem mostrarem todo potencial.
@@1.gamerqualquer sim, empresas vão sempre focar onde o lucro vai ser maior. No caso do Dreamcast além do PS1 ainda estar muito popular recebendo jogos como Final Fantasy VIII(lançado no mesmo dia do DC nos EUA) ainda tinha sombra do lançamento do PS2, console que traria retrocompatibilidade e o mais impressionante para a época q era ser um player de DVD.
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The world was not ready for Dreamcast what a beauty😢
The world was more than ready, the world just didn't like getting burned by SEGA with the 32x and Saturn. Hence why the PS2 that only came out 4 months later turned into a juggernaut.
@@baddabaddabaddaswing LMFAO 💀
nope and the fact that it reads burned discs openly and freely. My god I was such a poor kid lmao
@@baddabaddabaddaswing the PS2 came out 2 years later not 4 months..... Dreamcast launched in November 1998 bro....
3-4 years after Playstation and 2 years before ps2
Thank you for having the PS1 audio coming from the left channel & Dreamcast audio coming from the Right. Such an amazing little touch, took me a minute or 2 to realise, you must have put so much work into this!
Thank you so much for checking this out and for the kind words:) This video in particular did take quite a bit of time but seeing comments like yours really makes it worth the time it took.
I noticed it too, really helps with the comparison @@RetroComparisons
@@evshrug I appreciate you saying that. I've had people literally cuss me out for splitting the audio in unhinged rants lol. So it's great to hear feedback like this:)
Great work on audio
@@RetroComparisons dude, eff them punks! I hadn't noticed that yet, but I haven't watched much of the video, yet. It's saved in my watch later, though, and I'll definitely be going back to it. Even without noticing the audio trick(which is damn cool), I can tell this video took some work.
A lot of Dreamcast games look so nice and smooth, it's pretty impressive. Thank you for this video.❤
Thanks for checking this out!
Its not even a fair comparison because dreamcast was a gen younger than the PS1
@@suiken3149 Very true but it's not necessarily being about what's a fair comparison in terms of one beating the other but more about the historical context of the improvements from one gen to the next.
they are emulated
@@suiken3149 Yeah, I think PS1 vs Saturn would be more fair.
The last dream of Sega.
Very sad but what a way to go out.
The dream cast is just the baby Xbox. We still got it.
@@TeddyBelcher4kultrawide keep dreaming lol.
Phil Spencer just recently came out and said that they are losing the console wars.
Also said and I quote "if we don't get more people to subscribe to X box live ," "game pass" "that Microsoft is gonna give up on producing consoles all together".
Looks like x box in on the verge of becoming the next dream cast , out of business.
And another prey to Sony .
They scratching their heads and looking for deals just to stay alive and keep afloat with Sony.
Also what do you mean x box still got it ?
PlayStation has beaten x box -4 consoles now when it comes to exclusives, consoles sales and hardware sales . 😂😂
With the only acception being the x box 360.
@@TeddyBelcher4kultrawide
This year alone PlayStation has beaten x box and Nintendo on sells .
11.5 million more in profits compared to those systems this year alone .
It took x box 2 years after the PlayStation 5 was released to also add gyro scope and haptic feed back to their controllers .
*Sega Mega Drive Mini?
This is one of my favorite comparisons since it’s cross-generational. I love how many titles we have to demonstrate how developers had to approach the unique hardware of each console, and as a lover of both of these, I really enjoy seeing them side by side. Thank you so much for your channel and all your work
Thank you so much for the kind words and for checking this out:) I'm fascinated too by how things change from one generation to the next and this is one of those really interesting ones as both consoles were commercially relevant at the same time even if not for a super long time.
@@RetroComparisons No thanks needed! Yes, the commercial relevance is the neatest factor here. Like I said, I have a love for both consoles, and it's thanks to the PS1's unrivaled ubiquity during the era paired with the Dreamcast's lack thereof that we saw this profound overlap. VG history is one of my favorite things, and I'm sure you can appreciate that too, haha.
The Dreamcast was and still is amazing!
Oh yeah absolutely!
maybe in 3rd world countries
@@romeolajh1602Keep calm boy 😅😅
@@romeolajh1602I know your parents are related, the only question is how closely..
@@robot7935😂😂😂😂
I sincerely miss Dreamcast. It was a major part of my childhood gaming experience. I always compared it to arcade graphics but at home. Playing games like HydroThunder and crazy taxi at my friends place was SURREAL
As a kid I always dreamed of having an arcade cabinet at home. The Dreamcast was the first console to truly feel like it was on par with arcade graphics and was mind blowing.
They're not that expensive to get, and you can just burn games for the system.
lucky bastard.
Well it did have a TON of faithful arcade ports, so it is a good comparison
Mi sembra migliore Dreamcast
I still remember being blown away when I saw Sonic on dreamcast, it felt truly next-gen
Same here with the Generator disc demo for SOnic adventure 1. i was so impatient for release to play it.
And Crazy Taxi!
Yes dreamcast was blow-minded
The ps1 was still great competing with a dreamcast
Even back then I knew 3d Sonic was jank lol
The Dreamcast ports were basically remastered versions.
Without remaster haha
Games on DREAMCAST are really improved. 60FPS and more detailed colors and textures are really making a difference. In the years of release, that could be less noted. Because of the old tube TVs. Now with high resolution, HDR, and more color capable tvs, monitors, hardware and stream speed and quality, this is really a huge gap between PS1 and DREAMCAST.
Very well said. It still looked better at the time but most people weren't getting the best signal out of either system back then. I'd guess that the overwhelming majority of people were using composite cables for both in the 90s/early 00s. That VGA output on the Dreamcast is a thing of beauty and still looks great to this day on modern TVs.
Watching this on my phone with an AMOLED screen you can see how PS1 wasn't capable of achieving true blacks
Dreamcast is a Ps2 rival, not ps1, Sega Saturn competes with ps1
@@yty-p9k but Sega Saturn is already a more powerful console than ps1, maybe cuz is hard to programming to that most devs released their games on Dreamcast Wich is easy pezy lemon squeazy, most of ps1 games has versions on ps2 that are the same released on PC, like tony hawk 3 too, so, I think is difficult problem
is nice to see those comparisons anyway
@@yty-p9k why Dreamcast is a ps1 competitor if the Sega Saturn is already a more powerful console?
Tremendous effort putting this together!
Thanks so much:)
This is INSANE!!! SOOO much work must have gone into this... THANK YOU!!!
No probs, thank you for checking this out:)
the ps1 did great for 3-D hardware from 1994, its actually kinda amazing
considering that yeah . sadly it looks like poop half of time . but damn tony hawk pro skater was very well optimized on ps 1 . these versions are not much diferent
@@LordDeBahsnah, Pro Skater looks way better on Dreamcast.
@@lobesmcgee obviously . but consider ps 1 hardware . its miracle it looks like that
I honestly think it might be the best example in the entire video of the gulf between the graphics of the two consoles...
@@LordDeBahstony hawk tuah
This tells me once again, it ain't how good it looks but the controls, playability and MARKETING.
of course. still there is nothing here that really looks good. All the games on DC here looks very low poly, dated and some even plain ugly. Which is not odd as its pure PS1 ports with little to no effort to improve the games apart from them running in higer rez- framerate and textures. the rest is just same PS1 assets. an insult to the DC
This is such praise for the PS1. Comparing it to a next gen console and still holds up pretty well. Arguably for some of these games the rough graphic style aged really well on PS1 , blends elements well. While the Dreamcast has this "too clean" look. And some games just looks better on PS1? Like Test Drive V-Rally.
Holy cow another hour long special. Great work!
Thanks kind sir!
First off it's quite the dedication to put together this video so good job.
My takeaway having owned both of these devices when they were released the PlayStation holds up well against the more powerful and much later released Dreamcast on many titles.
I spent so much money back in these days chasing the most powerful gaming system, including the super expensive 3DO, SegaCD, TurboGrafx 16, and nearly purchased the Neo•Geo as well but the games were INSANELY expensive at around $200 USD per. Hell I purchased the N64 just to play Mario64, $200 to play one game...I had it bad 😂
I've heard of the "PC Master Race" on Reddit but you were a console master race back then lol! I think you made a wise choice not getting the AES as I don't think that console was worth it unless you're really into fighting games. It's funny you mention the Turbografx because I think that's the system most close to the Dreamcast in a historical sense. When the PC Engine came out in '87 it was way more graphically advanced than its main competition of the SMS & NES but then got stuck competing against the next gen of consoles not too long after that.
Thanks for checking this out and for the kind words:)
Can’t believe how good the Dreamcast looks! Never had one but looks like I missed out.
When using the VGA output it still looks good to this day even on modern TVs.
Try the redream emulator.
01:02:03 I see the real difference showcased is the ability to torture Jar Jar
Lol! You could clip this video down to 5 seconds of that to show the real winner.
The sega graphics were totally amazing. She kicked the butts of Sony's designers
I STILL have my Dreamcast from 1999 and in perfect condition along with the VMU cartridge. Loved it that much from those times.
Does it beep the vmu sometimes?mine did i couldn't find more batteries for it it would suck do it in house of the dead 2 at the boss
@@Danakedgamer0523 I can’t remember the beeps. Maybe back then but I haven’t actually taken it back out the box in years. I need to get an HDMI converter for it to connect to modern devices. Any recommendations for the cable?
@@Danakedgamer0523that’s was the game making that noise but yes does sound like the VMU. Cr2032 batteries are incredibly common and are about 50p each
20:00 we can see dreamcast is better than PS1, textures are better and smoke is more realistic and maybe better frame rate.
Now compare it to Formula One 2000 on PS1 that push the console to its limits. The PS1 wins by a mile.
The 640x480 resolution of the Dreamcast actually makes a nice difference with the 2d games especially in VNs/RPGs.
Most of these titles have nice differences and good graphical improvements.
Straight PS1 ports without enhancements are ugly on Dreamcast and you can really tell what devs had the budget/time to make their ports shine.
The Dreamcast had such a crisp output and that resolution did suit these games well. That was one of the downfalls though like you mentioned when it was nothing more than an upscaled port of a PS1 game.
Even straight ports were better than their PS1 counterparts with higher frame rates, lack of affine texture warping and greater draw distances
@@WWammyysoul reaver 60fps Dreamcast
Yeah, people complain about games getting remastered over and over these days, but these straight up ports were basically the same thing, just higher res versions of older games and if we were lucky better frame rates (although the vast majority still are locked at 30fps)
I feel like this ended up hurting to some degree since I'm sure many people were expecting a more noticeable jump in graphics. The higher resolution wasn't even that big of a deal back then due to most people still playing on CRTs via composite.
@@RetrOrigin wtf I noticed right away when I got a ps2 that the graphics looked ugly on CRT compared to how Dreamcast, Xbox, and most of the time Gamecube looked on CRT.People who played more than Playstation were big on graphics back than.Those games were not remastered it just that playstion came out with weaker hardware twice.
次世代機のDCになって3Dが滑らかになったのは勿論、表示解像度の上限が改善した事で2Dでもトランプの数字や麻雀牌の柄、台詞の精細さが大幅に改善したね
あとRPGなんかでも戦闘開始時やマップ切り替えなんかの読み込み時間が劇的に短縮されたので、2D作品でのストレスはほぼ無くなった
ただ表現力が増す事でデータ量も増えたから3D作品でDCの性能の限界を突き詰めたようなものでは相変わらず読み込み時間が長かったし、GDROM一枚では納まりきらなくて複数枚組になる作品が増えていったのと、セーブデータを保管するメモリーカードの仕様が悪いのはストレスだった
This video had to be a lot of work, I didn't know your channel, you did a wonderful job
Thanks so much! This video did take a very, very long time but makes it worth it when seeing comments like yours.
Some of the remasters are really kickass but I don't like it when 2D pixel art is changed or replaced. Simply displaying a lot of these old 240p games in 480p is already a mindblowing upgrade. That said, I only saw a handful of games where Dreamcast wasn't superior. Its specialty was high resolution(for the time) 2D and damn did it ever do that well.
I love Dreamcast because of its unique niche as an inter-generational console. It's not really 5th gen and not really 6th gen either. It has a ton of games from both and pretty much every release it got was very polished. It wasn't quite as powerful as 6th gen consoles but it had a very simple architecture that was easy to work with. Devs in general seem to have had an easier time squeezing more power out of Dreamcast. For that reason and others, the OG Xbox is sometimes considered its immediate successor. Sega actually had a hand in designing the Xbox.
Also, for such a short-lived console it has a really massive library. Such a shame it didn't do better in the US. It had the power to run a lot of later 6th gen titles okay and still had untapped potential. The fact that a lot of really important Dreamcast releases never had an English translation really sucks. Like Mobile Suit Gundam federation vs Zeon DX. The Gamecube was screwed in a very similar way.
Very well said! The Dreamcast really is weird with its timing because it essentially competed with two different generations in its short life. It reminds me a bit of the PC Engine that was made to compete with the NES but within a few years was competing with the Genesis & SNES.
it was killed by dvd format which sony monopilized . console itself was good . better then ps 2 in my opinion
This was awesome! Honestly i didnt realize how much of a graphics boost soul reaver got until i saw this video cause i always thought the cinematics were AMAZING but the game graphics were still ps1. But i was wrong cause 29:04 showed me the difference. Awesome work!
Thanks so much for checking this out! Yeah there's a lot of PS1 games like that where the opening cinema comes on and I'm like "this looks incredible" and then you get the actual game and it's a letdown.
29:00 Fitting that the Dreamcast version of Soul Reaver is to this day the definitive one - you spend the entire game feeding a mirrored Dreamcast logo in the bottom right of the screen on all versions of the game.
Interesting comparison, there is a lot of overlap, and I am quite impressed with how the Ps1games did hold up, in spite games being in an older hardware, since the Dreamcast in theory is on the PS2 league, and the Saturn is the Ps1 equivalent.
I couldn't believe how many games there were that were ported on both consoles. The timing of the DC was weird, it was almost like a PS1 Pro.
It's cause games were still being made with the PS1 in mind first and ported to DC afterwards. So the games were pushing the PS1 pretty hard, but the DC not so much.
Because of the DC's 2.5 year lifespan I'd argue it never reached its full potential. Even in a few years the jump in quality from Sonic Adventure to Adventure 2 was immense. Imagine what devs could've squeezed out had the system lasted til 2005 or 2006.
@@VexAcer I'd love to see what was coming out on the system had it lasted until around 05. I think we missed out on some great Sega titles.
@@RetroComparisons A safe guess would probably be at least some of the stuff we ended up getting put on the Xbox. Xbox games like GunValkyrie and ToeJam & Earl 3 were originally planned for the Dreamcast.
Stuff like Shenmue 2, Space Channel 5: Part 2, and Rez would've gotten a proper North American release on DC instead of on the Xbox/PS2 respectively.
@@vitamind.d.fishinsea8570 these ports beside some exceptions were very lazy and pushed quickly to the market. If you compare the best dc and ps the power gap is obvious.
What these kind of vídeos misses a lot is using a proper display (monitor or TV of that era) a lot of these graphics use the limitations of that time to their advantage and It means a lot.
Wow, you really did compare all games, even the ones nobody cares about... Great work!
My favourite change is in Soul Reaver, Raziel's model is really a huge upgrade
Thanks for checking this out! Yeah there were a ton of games that I couldn't wait to get through like the visual novels. Soul Reaver looks fantastic on the Dreamcast for sure.
It's interesting seeing how some of the games were pretty much just phoned in for the Dreamcast port by simply running it at higher resolution and framerate without any real asset changes and then others you can really see the big generational difference in capabilities with not just the res and framerate but also poly counts/ texture details, and background details and draw distance. This selection also showcases just how well optimized PS1 was at the end of its generation with some of the titles still looking and running pretty decent next to the DC port even thought its at lower settings. The one game I really notice PS1 had problems on was Shadow Man with massive framerate drops and quite distorted visuals.
It's crazy how lazy some of the ports for the Dreamcast were. Increased display resolution and texture resolution were the only things done on many of those. The Dreamcast could do about 10x the polygons that the PS1 could but devs didn't feel like remaking the models so you still got blocky characters that actually kind of looked worse because they were much clearer at the higher resolution.
It was rather such ports or nothing. Dreamcast user base was rather small and publishers were only doing these ports, because how simple they were. Dreamcast had so much power compared to PS1 that you could take C code of PS1 game and just rewrite API calls to what Dreamcast had. Such games would run at 640x480 with larger draw distance and sometimes better textures, without any hardware specific optimizations.
These ports were also made for PC and while GPUs back then were already more powerful to what Dreamcast had, there was a huge gap between low-end and high-end PCs.
Such ports could run at PS1 resolution with PS1 graphics on low-end hardware, often in software without 3D acceleration or at 1280x1024 at 100 FPS on high-end GPUs paired in SLI.
For some reason there's very few Dreamcast-like games on PC. Games quickly shifted from PS1 ports to PS2 ports. At one moment games required 233 MHz CPU with GPU and few months later it was like 700 MHz minimum, when games started targeting PS2, Gamecube and Xbox.
6:09 - What is that jagged yellow outline around the sprites in the Dreamcast version of Capcom vs SNK?
It really just goes to show that Dreamcast was ahead of its time. I remember when my brother and I had this beast growing up. Legendary console. I wish Sega would step back in the console wars again and bring us a Dreamcast 2. Would be amazing as hell!
1:02:00 Star Wars Episode I: Jedi Power Battles comparison
Nice demonstration of the power of the Dreamcast.
In some rare occasions tho, the blurrier graphics of the Playstation contributes to the ambiance of the game (thinking mostly about Resident Evil 2 and 3).
Those RE games are a great example of what can go wrong with these ports. For the Dreamcast some of it higher resolution but the backgrounds aren't so it's this weird blend. The more blurry graphics of the PS1 do give it that more unsettling feel too.
@@RetroComparisons exactly. in general no of these games is any showcase of the power of DC
Esse video eu notei que era tudo jogo que era pra ter sido lançado pra Saturn, as empresas preferiram lançar no Dreamcast.
So many lazy ports :(
Too bad, the Dreamcast was much more capable than some of these ports from lazy devs.
Thanks for the video, your work is amazing!
Thanks so much for checking this out and for the kind words:) Yeah a lot of these are not the Dreamcast's best showing. I've noticed that theme a lot though with these cross-generational ports on many systems like on the SNES vs PS1 video or even with Sega CD ports of Genesis games.
Huh, that's a neat little thing. In FI Racing Championship, if your car goes into the sand, the sand sticks to your tires because they're hot and gradually clears off as you drive. Attention to detail!
Wow. This confirms my opinion, the Dreamcast was essentialy a PS1/N64 Pro. These comparisons are impressive.
Thanks for checking this out! The DC really does have the 5th gen Pro feel to it.
And they call me crazy, lol.
22:00
The developers took a different approach over making a sub par port, love it!
I will need to watch this on the computer. The small split screen on a phone won't do this justice. I will second what Shotgunl has said about lazy high res ports.... Damn cash grabs, I will watch this one tho!!!
Simply amazing work and efforts!!!
Just use Gshade with DH_undither with raduis set to 1 an and lum max distance at 0.20 and GTU50 with Screen Width (GTU) set too the MAX and if you are dealing with low color games on gtu50 hit Enable composite conection (gtu) and Disable scanlines, this makes everything look amazing even new games
Thanks so much my friend! Haha yeah there were quite a few lazy ports for sure. BTW I see there's a reply to your comment which I can't read for some reason so if you're the one who wrote that I'm sorry I'm not responding.
@@RetroComparisons Naw no other reply I can see. I notice youtube doing that on occassion. Sounds like a bug!
@@mikec3260 I'm not surprised, seems like there's a lot of bugs with comments on youtube lately.
Someone seriously needs to recode several of the first person games and make a vr headset for the dreamcast, with things like the dream psu it just might be possible some day
Taking into consideration that we compare different GENs, PS showacase here is pretty impressive ... what a beast machine, PSX is. ♥
they realy optize thps on psx thats for sure . cant say same about some later psx releases that looks 2 x better on dreamcast and 60 fps . look at td 6 V rally . looks amazing on dreamcast . looks poop on ps 1 lol
Most of the titles on DC were lazy ports. Look at Test Drive Le Mans if devs had the time and budget for two different gen hardware. Makes you wonder if having to cater to the lower powered consoles in today's mixed-power gen holds back current consoles and PC games.
Masterpiece
Thanks for this! I've been using Redream a fair bit lately, and have been wondering about PS1 ports. I know of a few, but not of all of them. This is exceedingly useful!
Thanks so much for checking this out! I still can't believe how many games crossed over between the two.
@@RetroComparisons also, it's thanks to your Reddit post that I found the video. I got curious, considering I was playing Dino Crisis, and googled,"PS1 Dreamcast Ports." Little did I know that there are ONE HUNDRED FIFTY-FIVE OF THEM! 🤣😅
@@chuckclark3214Lol! When I was first researching how many crossovers there were I was finding lists with like 10 games, maybe 15. I knew I was in for a lot of work when doing more research and being at 30 games by the letter E.
Is Red dream or Flycast better?
Amazing work you did making this video, keep it up
Thanks so much!
12:10 WTF? The dreamcast one is slower than the PS1?
This was pretty nostalgic, there was so many visual novels that I grew up playing, many I haven't seen since I was a kid, it was a trip through memory lane, and it was also very cool to see how the Dreamcast looked so much better when devs really utilized all its power, it was truly next gen before the PS2.
Whew...another huge console vs console library comparison. I saw it pop up on my notifications just as I was going to call it a night, but I wanted to say that we appreciate the time you put in to put these together, Bill. I'll have to sift through it when I have more time. I know from my experience and your DC vs N64 vs PSX videos that the DC usually wins the comparisions between these two but that sometimes the PSX puts up a surprisingly good fight and/or sometimes the DC is just a higher-res PS1 port with no real benefits beyond clarity and sometimes better performance (and sometimes worse controls). It'll be nice to have all of these in one spot though.
Thanks so much my friend for your support and kind words! The PS1 did put up a good fight in a lot of these. There's a ton that weren't in the series I was doing as there's about 50 - 60 Japanese only games (mostly visual novels) and those of course looked pretty good unsurprisingly. There were a few others too that I somehow missed like Moho which turned out to be a very fun game. I hadn't quite finished the series before calling it off due to my N64 issues and some of those were good too. Of course there were others that were crap like Ultimate Fighting Championship where I spent over 30 minutes to get 30 seconds of footage without my fighter tapping out in the first 5 seconds:/ Anywho, go get some sleep lol! I need to do the same.
loved your take on this subject, it’s so well thought out!
Thanks so much for checking this out!
interesting how the contrast is so much better on the dreamcast
Fun Fact: Some Dreamcast versions are direct ports from the PC. Its full compatibility with Windows made porting from there much easier.
I didn't even know Resident Evil 2 and 3 were released on Dreamcast. Do they look better on Dreamcast emulators than PS1 emulators?
I've seen some footage of PS1 emulators that look pretty incredible with all of the upgrades but I'm sure there's even cooler upgrades on Dreamcast emulators. I would be curious to check that out.
@@RetroComparisons Check it and tell me which one looks better without updates or mods
8:40 what the names of the songs???
Hi, thanks for checking this out! I got hit with a copyright strike for the 3 songs in-game so I replaced them with 3 of my own original songs. They are "Harder Everyday" "I Want To Fall In Love With You" and "What Can I Do". ua-cam.com/channels/6MOnBYwFoR0qUzpK6uVktA.html
you composed@@RetroComparisons ??/ WOW man this songs are amazing ! you´re great ! please keep doing this man
@@haynnergomeseuzebio7595 Thanks so much! That really means a lot to me. I haven't really done anything with music in quite some time. Some of these songs were written/recorded close to 20 years ago.
@@RetroComparisons seriously ? Man, so you gotta a lot to put it out in songs today,, if you still want it , please if you do share in this channel with us
@@haynnergomeseuzebio7595 Thank you so much for the encouragement! It's one of those things that I had done for 25 years and I decided to step a way from a bit from being burnt out on it but I know I'll get back to it sometime. You've truly made my day with your kind words:)
In cases where the game is 3D models over 2D backgrounds, the increased texture resolution and and model detail actually works to the Dreamcast's detriment, as the models and backgrounds are no longer of the same visual fidelity. because while they could upscale the 3D stuff, the 2D assets were locked at their original resolution, as they had no way of re-rendering those at higher ones.
That certainly was one of the downfalls of having the upscaled games without completely re-hauling everything. When that wasn't the case though that VGA output of the Dreamcast really shined.
@@RetroComparisons VGA wasn't really the game changer people misremember it as. You had to buy it separately, and If you had a VGA monitor back in the day, you were probably a PC gamer. Most everyone else was playing Dreamcast on a RF-adaptor or composite cables. Its like the broadband internet adapter. Most people around the world in 1999/2000 were still stuck using a dodgy dialup connection, so internet play was still just a pipe dream.
@@SomeOrangeCat Very true but it did really help future proof the console in the same way that the SMS/Genesis were with native RGB output. Most people at least in North America were playing those with RF or composite too but they look fantastic these days without any mods going through an upscaler.
Hell yes. That's clearly visible on the Resident Evil ports.
@@SomeOrangeCatYeah but people play with VGA today and, well would you look at that, it looks so much better than rf/rca.
Clearly, a lot of developers who made PS1 games thought, "Hey, we can basically dump our PlayStation game onto Dreamcast, unchanged, and apply antialiasing to the polygon textures! Done and done!"
Haha yeah that pretty much sums up the majority of these ports.
it seems more that the ps1 ports are capped DC versions. look how the dream cast games are fluid as hell
Funny enough for some of these ports like Resident Evil i even prefer to play the PS1 version since the dithering effect of the console mesh better with the prerender backgrounds.
Although PSX can be considered a 5th gen console, the Dreamcast probably falls in between 5th and 6th as it was released in 1998 and was pre GPU (hardware T&L) era. Everything was still mostly calculated in the CPU but used the graphics chip for rendering. In that respect a Playstation to Dreamcast conaprison isnt all that unfair.
@@nng1979 I think it would be better to compared late PS1 titles with 90s Dreamcast games, were i think PS1 doesnt have anything to envy or even surprass some early DC titles.
I thank my old childhood friend as the only person I ever knew who had a Dreamcast and introduced me to play it. I cannot believe the Dreamcast failed when it was years ahead of the competition. Wild.
Dreamcast was already powerful more like a Ps2 than a P1. Another GEN in advance.
I love SEGA
I think the most jarring transition in the video is from Wacky Races to the Disney kart game. The former looks an entire generation ahead of the PS1 version, with a beautiful cel-shaded look and pretty much completely different assets... and then Magical Racing Tour just looks like the PS1 version running at 2x resolution. It's a shame that many developers treated the Dreamcast as an afterthought and did the bare minimum. Still, better than not supporting it at all like EA I suppose...
this whole 3D style of Dreamcast is very good looking to my eye and I love it. all these early polygon systems like the Dreamcast, the SEGA model 2, SEGA model 3, atomiswave, naomi arcade system. don’t know why but I just love the style.
I feel the same way. It seems to hold up better than a lot of other 3D games from the era, especially when compared to something like the N64.
I had both versions of Soul Reaver, what an upgrade!
Dreamcast wins but the PS1 definitely held its ground good.
20:33 insane
If you are a fighting game player & loved fighting games from this era, Dreamcast wins hands down vs Playstation. They played exactly the same as their arcade counter parts without cutting any animation frames and sometimes had online play. Besides that, having more horse power, disc space and higher resolution meant less concessions to be made. Hell, just frame rate being more consistent is a large improvement.
Dreamcast is so UNDERRATED!
look at power of ps1, that was real good hardware
Did you use the same av output for both consoles? I mean composite for both ? because I think you used HDMI converter for DC and regular composite for PS, am I correct?
These did use different methods. The PS1 is using a SCART cable through the OSSC while the Dreamcast is using the DCHDMI mod to tap into the VGA output and it's being upscaled through that.
@@RetroComparisons No offence but this makes no sense.
1/ your PS1 cable isn't great quality or your capture card or OBS is doing a terrible job, I'm running PS1 through RGB and OSSC and it's way sharper than that.
2/ the DCHDMI does not tap into VGA, it takes the signal directly as digital signal and keeps them digital the entire way. VGA is RGBHV with is analog.
So, in your case, PS1 goes through ADC (Analog to Digital Conversion) and your DC is pure digital throughout. A good, fully shielded RGB (RGsB, RGBS or even RGBs) cable will look VERY close to a digital output when going through a correctly set up high quality ADC device such as the OSSC.
If you're curious, look into a DC block diagram, you'll see, the VGA is being generated by the Digital Encoder (a DAC) whereas the HDMi mods get their video directly from the graphic chip.
Within a 1080p container you can fit both the PS1 in 2x scaling and the Dreamcast in 1x. Looks like that's what you've been doing. However, falling short of integer scaling will create a mess and I believe that it might be the reason why your PS1 output looks so soft here. It might not be perfectly scaled to 2x in OBS or equivalent.
I would say, that Dreamcast was between PS and PS2, because of those graphics and better details. I do have one and it's brilliant to play on a old CRT monitor ✨ Long live the Dream... 🌀
Soy dominocano y eso pense
Despite being originally made for DC and Arcade some few ports such as Capcom VS SNK Millenium Fight 2000 (or PRO) still holds up on PS1 and are just barely worse.
I was actually pretty surprised how well some of these PS1 games held up. I think a lot of the 2D games did age better than the 3D ones though. Having said that, I kind of prefer the gritty look of games like Resident Evil on the PS1.
Dreamcast is basically a PS1 with all games remastered 😂
First of all, you deserve a subscribe for your efforts.
Secondly, the Dreamcast was generally the most powerful home system during 1998-1999, outperforming high-end PC hardware in most ways during that era. That being said, the Dreamcast's commercial failure has been attributed to several factors, including competition from the Sony, limited third-party support, and the earlier failures of the 32X and Saturn having tarnished Sega's reputation. In retrospect, reviewers have celebrated the Dreamcast as one of the greatest consoles.
Thanks so much for the kind words and your support! Yeah the Dreamcast was such a beast for its time. When you think back 10 years ago we had the PS4 & Xbox One and games didn't look that much different than today. When you look back 10 years from when the Dreamcast came out most people were playing the NES or Master System. What a leap in tech!
@@RetroComparisons Indeed, when i saw the quality of the Dreamcast on your video, i thought you were running it in an emulator and upscaled the hell out of the quality lmao
@@Azrael1x2 Haha yeah I can see why. With the DCHDMI upgrade tapping into the VGA output and upscaling it to 1080p it looks phenomenal.
@@RetroComparisons Indeed, amazing console, i'm glad it got the love it deserves from the fun!
Pre-rendered backgrounds look better than todays games.
It does look nice, but stop that cap. No game back then looks better than what is being produced nowadays.
@@levianthony3944 yep.
Funny thing though being FF7R one of the best looking games out there, it used pre rendered background when you are looking at the lower quarters
I waited over 10 years to play Policenauts. I was excited to play it on 3DO when I saw it in a magazine. It was so amazing that it got translated.
que gran merito de la ps1 porque a pesar de sus limitaciones tecnologicas pudo sacar juegos y graficas muy avanzadas a su epoca, tambien la dreamcast pudo mejorar lo que parecia inmejorable de la ps1, por encima de las limitaciones de ps1, dreamcast pudo revivir con mejores graficas, efectos de luz, sonido y frame rate mucho mas fluidos, claramente se ve que los juegos ya andaban en 60fps de manera nativa en dreamcast, incluso algunos juegos se siguen viendo igual de sorprendentes que el dia en que fueron lanzados, especialmente los juegos de lucha de capcom, todos los king of fighters, de lujo
El gran merito de la PS1 era que se podia piratear y ya está!!!
@@2Bleicher ciertamente le ayudo, pero también su formato CD de 700mb fue definitivo, ya que en ese momento se puso muy de moda los cds de música quemada, los vcd, creo que salió en el momento justo, sino pues hay tienes de ejemplo la Saturn y el mega CD de SEGA, un gran fracaso comercial
@@2Bleicher los muertos de hambre de los latinos la pirateaban, en el resto del mundo arraso por su gran catalogo.
we chose the wrong childhood.. DC game is f****n beautiful
I honestly believe that the Dreamcast is the most overlooked and tragic game system EVER MADE, the sheer power and ability of the system, coupled with the revolutionary online capabilities and the VMU being it's own whole AMAZING thing just makes me cry at night, I remember FINALLY saving up enough as a kid to buy one used off my buddy only to find out that Sega was abandoning the system all together and that no NEW games would come out for it, but MAN, such a tragic case, the raw POWER of it is impressive even to this day!!!!...
That is the sharp 6800x or the pc98
I never really paid attention to the dream cast now i see what was a mistake, them dream cast counterparts look amazing compared to the PS1, thankfully some of them were also on PS2 but still i might have to track down a dream cast now :D
It's well worth it if you can find one at a good price. If you get the VGA output from it like in this video it looks great even on modern TVs.
Some of these comments are from viewers who clearly aren't gamers. Dreamcast was released 4 years later and they wonder why DC looks better. 😂 If anything, this video shows just how good the PS1 was for it's time.
Agreed; I don't completely understand the need for a side-by-side of non-competing consoles. It would have made way more sense to have a side-by-side of PS1 vs Saturn, those we're actually same gen competing consoles. DS was supposed to be a a direct competitor to PS2; and had they waited for the PS2 to launch they actually may have made some headway against Sony. The PS2 stumble hard out of the gate with all the full screen antialiasing issues; when DS had none of those issues.
Wasn't Dreamcast a PS2 comparison? I'm curious why you're comparing it against a PS1, or not comparing PS2 vs PS1 instead to see the differences between generations. Though maybe those videos were done enough already?
I do want to eventually do a PS1 vs PS2 and a DC vs PS2 comparison at some point. This one in particular fascinated me because there were so many PS1 & N64 games that came out at the same time as the DC and technically competed more years with those consoles than its contemporary 6th gen consoles.
The dream cast would kick ass today if somebody was making games for it
Why develop for the dreamcast when you can develop for the PS2 or xbox classic?
PS1 was the leading Platform. They pushed the Hardware to its Limits
Forget Dreamcast. It mostly got lazy ports.
wow dreamcast was really ahead of its time, already producing next gen graphics in 2000, ps1 was cool, but dreamcast was unique, if only they had more exclusives and better game production companies to work with! I had a gamecube, but one of my all time favorite games was sonic adventure 2 battle! Just incredible what they did, Sega is special!
It's so cool that they were putting out these amazing looking games during the heyday of the 5th gen consoles. It's crazy to think that the Dreamcast was released in Japan only 6 days after Ocarina Of Time.
thats really interesting, also crazy to think that Ocarina of time alone was enough to carry Nintendo, aside from Mario Kart and Mario 64.@@RetroComparisons
1998 actually!!
I remember wanting one and playing it a few times with friends who had the system, but the PS2 was right around the corner for me. I still wish I would have owned a Dreamcast because even when the PS2 was surging, Dreamcast had a lot of great games to offer. Really neat console.
It's such a cool console and with a vastly different library than what the other 6th gen consoles offered it would have been a cool thing to own alongside a PS2, Xbox or GameCube.
Dreamcast once again proves it is the most underrated game console of all time.
Amazing video. A couple games surprised me though. Sno-Cross and Test Drive 6 both look like they run a bit better on the PS1. More consistent framerate and better sense of speed.
Thanks so much for watching! Yeah there were some that were equal if not better on the PS1 which is very shocking.
32 bit vs 128 bit ??????????????????????????????????????????????
what's next VHS vs Blue ray ????
😅
The difference though is these consoles competed in stores at the same time for multiple years. That's like comparing VHS to DVD which competed head on even if they were different generations of technology.
@@RetroComparisons Yeah but the PS1 came out in 1994 and the Dreamcast in 1998, that's a 4 year difference in technological development.
@@isaacbarahonahidalgo9427 he make content for money bro, i dont think he care
@@isaacbarahonahidalgo9427 True, but that's the main focus of my channel. I'm more fascinated by how the same game looks from one generation to the next than comparing same generation games. While I do both on this channel I'd say around 90% of it is focused on inter-generational consoles and was the main intent of my channel when I first started.
So many cool games.
Excellent job!
Thanks for watching!
The problem with the Dreamcast is that there are not that many games that show the true potential it actually had since most of the games on this platform are just straight ports of the PS1 games but a bit more refined when it comes to graphics and in some cases, even content. Kind of a shame since the Dreamcast could’ve actually put up a good fight against the PS2 if it received a greater number of higher-quality games rather than souped-up PS1 games.
dvd format won sadly . its not like ps 2 was realy more powerfull . etleast we got xbox pads designs which were insipred bye dreamcast pad and some ideas from dreamcast mutliplayer , online functions implemented today gaming
@@francesco6440 Obviously there are some exceptions, but my points stands true. Most games on the Dreamcast are PS1/N64 ports.
@@revenge1205 absolutely not. C'mon read the entire game list don't be stupid. Clearly there is some conversion Also from pc, but you can't write that the entire lineup was from ps1 or N64 ???conversion. You sound ridiculous, if you don't know nothing about Sega. I must continue??? Virtua fighter 3, berserk, JoJo, every fucking beat em up, sega GT, every fucking shumps, every Gundam, houthdead, phantasy star O, Sakura taisen, virtua striker, virtus tennis, NBA 2kseries, nfl2kseries, none of these are conversion and I could write a lot. So now I understand that you know just 3 games and never touched a real Dreamcast, but don't write that stupids things.
@@revenge1205 620 games on Dreamcast. 145 porting from ps1. Nothing from N64. Clearly you don't know nothing about Sega, never played, never seen or touched a real Dreamcast.
@@francesco6440 For your information, I've known Sega for as long as I can remember and I've also been a Dreamcast owner for 8 years and it is a great console. I really love it, and I’m 90% positive there are more than 145 5th-gen ports. Are you sure nothing was ported from N64? I can’t name all of the games offhand but Army Men Sarge’s Heroes, NFL QB Club 2000/2001, Bass Rush, Hydro Thunder, Episode 1 Racer, and Rush 2049 are just a few examples of games that were released on both N64 and Dreamcast.
excellent video. Didn't know about dino crisis, now I want to play it again in the dreamcast
Thanks for watching! Dino Crisis is excellent on the Dreamcast and there's now a patch so you can play it in 480p which looks extra crisp.
Dino Crisis has ULTIMATE HD MOD + REBIRTH (PC),
Replaces DirectDraw 5 with DirectX 9 among other stuff
Dino Crisis2 is available on PSX & PC REX HD (still not complete) + Classic REBIRTH patches
I’m surprised how much the PS1 keeps doing a good job versus the Dreamcast. Especially knowing the difference of power between them.
I was surprised too. I think the fact that it has a really clean output makes a huge difference too in terms of visual quality.
@@RetroComparisonsif ps1 didn't have wobbly graphics it would look nearly the same
It's no surprise at allm because of the selective bias that often is forgotten: Games existing on multiple systems that have been around before the stronger system have first been made and optimized for the older one and then where ported to the newer system later. This nearly always means that the newer system won't even be remotely used to it's full potential. For comparing the hardwares' capabilities you would need to check the exclusive game son the later one, or some specifically selected where you know before, that they had been optimized more than to the bare minimum for the later conversion :)
This video shows that nearly all these games are just using a higher resolution on the Dreamcast and most have higher fps,. because these are the two things that come mostly automatically by running them on the newer hardware. But you usually won't find crisper textures, higher polygon count more more objects or particles on screen in these conversion. Of couorse the Playstation 1 still was a good system for it's time, maybe the most advaned console ever relative to it's contemporary situation.
Hi coming back to your video after some time! you totally need to make one with Ps2 and gamecube shared titles :), amazing job in this one.
Thanks so much! That's definitely a project I'm going to tackle within the next year. There's just as much crossover with the PS2 as the PS1 so it will be really interesting to see how they stack up to each other.
Ps1 wins for grittiness and lighting in most of the horror games. The cleaned up graphics almost did a diservice to some these games. Still loved the Dreamcast though.
Dreamcast feels like a PS 1.5, amazing for it's time. It beats PS 1 ass but can't touch the PS 2.
I have some great memories of the dreamcast and don't regret buying one when it was released. a lot of people held out for the PS2
Malgré les ventes ps2, pour la dreamcast restera tjs supérieure à la ps2.
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F1 World Grand Prix on the playstation has incredible particle effects for the console. But then there's the Dreamcast version that looks like it's running on alien technology by comparison!
For the most part, Dreamcast takes the W, as it should. Seems that some devs, for whatever reason(s), didn't take advantage of the superior hardware.
Wonderful comparison btw!
Thanks so much for checking this out! Yeah there's a lot of ports where it's basically just an upscaled PS1 game. A lot of these don't show off the true power of the console.
Did it though?, took the win. After few games my dreamcast stayed in the cabinet for the most part (and I played my PSX) because it got cancelled. And then I moved on to PS2.
My Dreamcast is still the cleanest of all my consoles because of how less I used it because of only few (not even 20) games.
I still remember when i saw Shenmue trailer, it blew my mind which was the reason i got my DC and Code Veronica. Loved that game and part 2 ofcourse.
What I meant was Dreamcast takes the win for most of these PS1 vs. DC comparisons. PS1 has a much bigger library, which makes it way more valuable than DC.
Don't forget windows CE... 75+ Games used this crap (The DirectX APIs) and they were almost always technically underwhelming, transforming the Dreamcast into a kind of souped up PSX with textures filtering.
My Rogue Spear trauma is still going strong.
Great comparison video!
Thanks!
Até hoje me surpreendo em como o ps1 era incrível, mesmo com tamanha diferença de hardware ele não fazia feio!
I was surprised too. The PS1 cleans up really well using Scart/Component cables through an upscaler and it really pops.
na verdade é pq a maioria aí são jogos de PS1 que foram portados para o Dreamcast... o DC é sub-utilizado nesses jogos.
Mas sim o PS1 fazia coisa muito impressionante, o fato de ter vendido muito fez os desenvolvedores utilizar as capacidades ao máximo e contornar as limitações... coisa q infelizmente nunca aconteceu com o Saturn e até mesmo o Dreamcast que foram abandonados sem mostrarem todo potencial.
@@megaigor PS1 ditava as regras e o rumo dos jogos realmente! Atropelou N64 e Dreamcast mesmo com hardware defasado.
@@1.gamerqualquer sim, empresas vão sempre focar onde o lucro vai ser maior.
No caso do Dreamcast além do PS1 ainda estar muito popular recebendo jogos como Final Fantasy VIII(lançado no mesmo dia do DC nos EUA) ainda tinha sombra do lançamento do PS2, console que traria retrocompatibilidade e o mais impressionante para a época q era ser um player de DVD.
@@1.gamerqualquer O Dreamcast já era de outra geração, quem o atropelou foi o PS2.