_Pets warhammer and mace (and bec de corbin and trench club and Hussite polearm flail thing and three war clubs and maul and bar mace)_ It's okay, Skall didn't mean it. Kind of. I mean, he totally meant it, but... y'know... yeah... stop being such crybabies, you are literal blunt weapons.
@Fab I love the matching of your name and profile picture :D Thranduil should be the the new face of Schauma ... the best hair in Middle Earth deserves no less ^^
I own a Windlass Steelcrafts sword that I had custom sharpened and it was fantastic, it sliced through bottles and cartons like they weren't even there. Then I accidentally struck the 4x4 stand the bottle was standing on and the top six inches of the blade snapped off. It wasn't even a full-strength swing. I don't recommend them, myself.
Most definitely wasn't just the sword's fault. How hard did you swing? At what angle did you hit the stand? What material was the stand? How stabilized wasnthe stand? Sidenotr: I've heard before, don't know if it's true, that sharpening blunt reproductions can seriously mess up the blade's integrity and turn them into what amounts to a large glasshard. Super sharp but one bad impact and that's it.
Yes, but the statement about their "battle-ready" swords is from Museum Replicas Limited in the US. And they still offer them blunt by default, with a sharpening option that costs extra.
True, if they imported them and Museum Replica sharpened them for free before selling that would be one thing but they advertise them as battle ready blunted.
Captain Harlock In all honesty, if a person is really into swords and cutting with them, they should learn how to service their tools. Warriors from all time periods have had to service their own weapons. You can't hold up a battle to have your sword or spear or armor sent off to a a professional to have it serviced. You do it yourself. Personally, I wouldn't knock a product because of the edge it came with. That is an issue that can be fixable yourself. What matters more is structural integrity and the tempering of the steel. I happen to like Windlass blades quite a bit. For the price they are good pieces, and can be made excellent with just a little work and care.
Agnish Roy Yeah that does sound like a weird practice. But blade laws can be weird, especially in places like India where these things are a lot more prominent in the culture and life than here in the States, or in most Western nations.
You are supposed to use your sword to take ALL damage from another sword. It is a tool. You can fix a sword or gods forbid replace it. Try replacing your freaking arm.
The company did explain the 1mm wide edge with the fact that it allows them to sell them to a much broader public and export them to far wider range of countries. I'm fine with that, I didn't get bent out of shape when I got my regimental kukri and saw that it was blunt. Calling it battle ready or whatever it was is of course misleading to say the least, but it's still a lot better than selling sharp crap, like all of these combat-/survival-/zombie- fantasy knife manufacturers do. That regimental kukri I bought once upon a time was flawlessly made, by the way, and once I took a file to the edge and then sharpened it, it turned into one of the least disappointing large knives in my collection. It was cheap, too, so it's not something I've felt I need to treat like a delicate little butterfly.
An honest and detailed opinion, as always. I like this review of weapon manufacturer. It would be great if you would do more for others as well. I think it can help a lot of people who are not sure which one to choose.
Yes!! Please continue making videos about the different companies available! I have no experience in sword collecting, so hearing the pros and cons of the major companies from someone like Skallagrim who strives to be objective would be super helpful.
"A sword is flying at me, but this sword cost a lot, look how good it looks, it'll be a shame if the enemy damaged my edge and- Aaaaaand there goes my arm" - The life of Medieval soldier according to windlass.
Windlass is a nice option for those looking for a specific type of sword they wouldn't usually collect and don't want to spend $400+ dollars on it. Also a great starting point for college students or other penny pinching HEMA practitioners.
the pirate captains hanger they make is amazing. i cut into a grounding rod that i forgot to take out of the box my dryer came in. there was barely any edge damage, i touched up the edge for only a few minutes a couple days later and it barely looks damaged.
Throwing it out there skall, yes please more of these if you can. Always nice to have a baseline on manufacturers which is hard to find without a TON of bias behind it.
Hold on a second, they're arguing that "Battle ready" means "Unsharpened" because in battle you could ruin a sword's edge by crossing it with another sharp edge?. So, in essence their whole argument is "would you have your sharp edge damaged in the battle?, no ,right?. That's why all swords were dull metal clubs, because if you had a sharp edge then it might be damaged, so better to have no edge to begin with, that way you don't get a weapon rendered useless in the middle of a fight...you go instead with an useless one to begin with". Holy shit do some people make no sense when inventing excuses....
"kult of athena which i generally recommend because of the good prices and international shopping" yeah good prices u pay $200-$300 for a sword and shipping is $120 USD, kill me now
To be fair, the 1860 light cavalry saber was manufactured blunt and was so hard most union soldiers couldnt really put an edge on it with just a stone. So their m1860 is perfect
I loved the style and honesty of the review, great job as always skall and looking forward to more product company reviews! I plan on getting the budget tatical gladius, but will defer to other companies for any higher end swords that i wish to buy. (I use them for hunting safety and protection in dangerous woods near where i live to conserve ammo for game.)
I would defiantly like to see more of this video type it was extremely useful; its good to know which manufacturers you can trust, especially for what specific weapon type. Are all the Windlass gladioluses bad? If so who is a good manufacturer of gladioluses and weapons from antiquity and the early medieval age which is my favorite period of to collect from?
I remember reading a review on Cold Steel's Shamshir and the blade being reviewed had an almost faded "Windless made in India" stamp near the tang. So It's safe to say that Cold Steel = Windless + Sharpened blades.
Cold steel is a garbage company. Do not support them if you appreciate historical weaponry. They trademarked the historical term “San mai” and have attempted (unsure if successfully) to sue companies for using it
Thanks for the video, it was indeed interesting. Personally, I'd enjoy seeing your opinions on other manufacturers, and your picks of what items you would buy of theirs
I used to own that Windless Shamshir you mentioned. I got it from MRL and it was called their Scimitar. It was very well balacned and fast and deadly in the hand. I loved it and regret getting rid of it. But you mentioned the guard being seemingly laquuered or something. Something else about the guard; I dropped my sword on my hard ceramic tile kitchen floor and th guard bent. So it is evidently made of pot metal or some other soft metal. But I still love it. I also owned the Cold Steel one which also made by windless has a brass guard.
Lindybeige made an entire video dedicated to explaining why hitting with the edge is often a good idea. He touched upon the brief points you made, among others. I recommend that for anyone interested in hearing more on that subject.
I've had a Windlass rapier since the early 2000's. I've been pretty easy on it, but it's a very accurate thruster for someone of my limited skill/experience.
for those curious, 10XX steel is just carbon steel, some companies like zombie tools use a 51XX spring steel (I think the specific is 5160). As Skall mentioned the last 2 digits refer to the carbon content in 10ths of a percent. the 1060 mentioned has .60% carbon in the steel. The first 2 digits refer to the alloying elements.
I echo your sentiments. For semantic purposes, I would say they are indeed Battle durable or Battle ready, but they are not Competition sharp. Over the years I've owned several Windlass swords, purchased through Museum Replicas or Atlanta Cutlery, and the selections I've made have been well-constructed pieces, despite lacking distal taper.
Skall, could you do a video on repairing rusty swords to usable swords. So tips on how to take rust off a dull blade, and sharpening it afterwards without harming it.
Good video Skall. To added to it, from my experience so far and from what I have heard it appears that Windlass's quality is improving as their newer lines so far appear to be of good quality. But I still need to run more tests on more of their swords. The Windlass Battle Cry line comes sharpened, the edge cuts out of the box but could be better as it is sharpened to a steep angle. From my tests with the Maldon Viking Sword I have found it to be durable, it was neither bent, chipped, nor was the finish damaged after many strong strikes into a 5in tree trunk. Also its handling felt good to me. I am planning to make a few reviews of different blades from the line, once the semester is over.
All fair comment, to my way of thinking. Key terminology should be defined by the maker, or if sold by an intermediary, by that person. Clarity of that sort keeps customer disappointments to a minimum.
I recently purchased a Battlecry Bowie, I love it, it came very sharp, after stropping its razor sharp. I haven’t abused it yet but it definitely feels confidence inspiring. Would I carry it into battle, probably not as it’s big and heavy and I already own a proven BK7, but I would definitely not feel uncomfortable using it for that purpose. They are inexpensive, relatively, have a good sheath and handle, I had to upgrade both on the BK7 and do take a hell of an edge with proper sharpening.
I purchased a few items that didn't fit and returned or I had to strap, buckle, and rivet some of my helmets. I have been ordering from Museum Replicas since the early 1990's. The quality is usually very good, however my biggest problem with Museum Replicas is their back orders. I have been waiting for an order since spring 2023.
Aninquin: Bullshit!!! Cold Steel's swords and knifes are manufactured in India and they come sharp right out of the box! The Windlass Cobra line are sold sharp right out of the box! Just to mention two examples. So stating "India does not allow the export of sharpened blades" is utter bullshit and nothing else!!!! There are NO law in India preventing the export of sharp blades!!!
2:40 Actually for reenactment and HMB we don't want increased flexibility or reduced weight. We want them to hit hard. Also, based on many historic tournaments regulation the ideal weight for one-handed sword is 1250 grams at least. The only problem with Windlass blades is the edge. Most reenacting tournaments or HMB events require 2mm thick "edge". Well and the points aren't rund enugh.
Well as you and others have pointed out if the edge was never to contact another edge, then the cruciform guards wouldn't have been in-line with the edge. I have two Windlass swords, the Eglinton Backsword and the Sword of the Thirty Years War rapier. I haven't sharpened either of them. The backsword is on the heavy side, though it appears within the weight range for an original, and has a rather chunky "edge." I keep meaning to travel the few blocks to the Royal Ontario Museum and see if I can compare it to the original on which it was based, but I just never seem to get there. The rapier wouldn't take a huge amount of work to sharpen as it has a thinner blade and more shallow geometry. The tempering on it seems to be fairly good as it's not overly floppy and returns to true, when bent perhaps 8" or more offline.
My guess as to why so many manufacturers make blunt swords is because it is a lot easier to ship and there is less hassle (ie permits). I know that in New Zealand there are a lot of rules like that with fines for companies if they sell edged weapons.
I have a windlass steel craft 15th century German bastard sword so far my best sword yet, mine came professionally sharpened (most likely in the USA where I live and ordered it).
I have the Sword of Roven (or European longsword) and their version of the Ulfbehrt. Both seem nice for the price. No major flaws or excessive wobbliness.
Was a bit worried he was going to say they're junk and not to buy them. I just purchased my 1st sword yesterday. A 1860 Union light Calvary saber by windlass. (I also have a Japanese imperial Navy katana. But I inherited that one.)
Windlass is a great company. I own several swords from them. You're being too literal and critical. But I still love ya, man. Keep up the great reviews.
I've owned one sword by Windlass - their umbrella sword. I really liked the design. It had a long carbon steel blade that could be easily deployed with a button (as opposed to the short, stainless steel, screw-ins that you find everywhere). But ultimately, the umbrella barely worked and the blade was so thin and skinny that it was flexing under its own weight. I gave it one test stab on the box it came in and it went through nicely. But I really didn't trust how floppy and skinny the blade was. I also couldn't find any good reviews of the sword. Such as what it was made out of and whether or not it was heat treated. For the price point, I'd guess 1055 carbon steel and non heat-treated. I considered keeping it and doing a review so that there would be a comprehensive review on the product. But I decided not to since it was discontinued and I was really worried about the blade breaking. So I sent it back. Really a loss of potential. It was a darn shame.
Every few months I spend a week or two just playing Kenshi. It's one of those games that's really hard to get back into if you take a break for a while. Always end up starting a new game.
@@matthewpham9525 One was their grosse-messer (not the Cold Steel one they have now... I guess they didn't like doing refunds or replacements? They don't have their own grosse-messer any more), the other was a more fantasy-type blade with a demon eye in the pommel.
Heya, Skal! In regards to the swords being blunt, I'm pretty sure that India has export laws for weapons stating that you can't export a "sharp" weapon, which is why their items (and all indian made items) are purposely shipped blunt.
Im looking for a cool wallhanger that i can take outside and cut some cans or whatever and not have it break. Ive heard generally good things about the bosworth longsword for its price point and im wondering if it would fit my needs?
You can have them sharpened before they ship. Mine came out of the box shaving hair. You can see me using their windlass steel crafts sticklestad, my cuts our horrible but the blade was awesome.
In this price range, you can get 'good but with caveats', or 'shoddy shite'. These days I think Windlass mostly falls in the former category. I have a Windlass Great Ouse River Sword (sharpened by Kult of Athena), which is a long, thin, Type 17 stabbing longsword, and the Cobra Steel Wakazashi. My experience with the longsword is similar to Skall's experience with the Shamshir. The blade is excellent quality, the fittings are more basic, and it has developed some slight looseness at the crossguard that I will have to shim. The flexible sheath is cheap but perfectly functional. The blade is very long, thin, and flexible, but the sword is a phenomenal thruster, and it shows no signs of being too flexible or being prone to bending. It is lightened and stiffened with a 2/3 blade-length fuller, making it very light and nimble for a blade that long. I've not done super abusive testing on it, but I have thrust it through a wide variety of targets and it performs well (I've even successfully thrown it like a javelin just for fun). Given the blade shape it's not the best cutter in the world, but at or below its center of percussion it cuts cleanly and without undue effort. The blade is light, well balanced, and properly shaped with good distal taper. The Cobra Steel blade is amazing for the price. Decent construction, serviceable edge, and a sheath all for around 55 bucks. The Wakazashi has this REALLY stupid and uncomfortable square grip, but since its made entirely out of rubber I was able to reshape it into a more oval octagon shape in minutes, and it is now VERY comfortable to use. The steel is a bit on the soft side, but the entire package is amazingly functional for the ridiculously low price. While I've only owned a few Windlass blades, my impression is that over the years they've improved their designs, and most of their newer stuff is probably a good buy. You may run into issues like hilt looseness, but nothing dealbreaking. For the price they have a lot to offer.
Thanks. I've seen a ton of reviews saying that their longer blades are super whippy, and I can just imagine in my nightmares while I sleep, holding the rapier I want from Windlass (The 17th century Italian rapier), and being able to bend the blade completely back to the hilt, and more so, like 360 degree bend. I literally had a dream like that. It was terrible. So, seeing that you didn't have a problem with a long blade from Windlass, it really puts me at ease.
I don't know though, I believe there is a video on youtube of an individual cutting tatami with a 1mm blunted edge and he is doing it with ease. I am assuming the meaning in their statement means can function the same in terms of handling and durability. I think the dull edge argument is just slightly over critical but just my idea on the subject.
In the past 16 years I have had 3 windlass pieces. All 3 had issues. 1st was a discontinued war hammer, came with broken brass screws in the lower handle cap/spike. 2nd was an all steel stylet dagger. it got knocked off a work table, maybe 3 feet from the ground, and broke right at the guard/handle seam (inside was just a poorly welded threaded rod, which was what broke) and last was the cobra steel kinjal dagger. Came bent at an angle right at the base of the blade. When I called to get a return for it, as soon as I said what it was, the CS rep asked right away, "its got a bend in it,right?". They knew about the issue, even said the entire lot they had was bad, and the replacement batch had the same issues, and yet still let this one go out. Never again will I buy this brand
So my main thing is I want to get a functional Highland Broadsword (or Backsword, I'm not picky) and I'm on a budget. One of the things I want it for, other than practice cutting, is as a potential dress sword for certain functions (I'm of scots heritage, living in the US). I've looked at Hanweii, Windlass, and Cold Steel, that's roughly my budget range. Of them, the Windlass looks most attractive to me, but I don't want a sword that can't function as a sword. So here then is my question, which would the community recommend for this purpose?
An idea for a scenario I had for a while goes like this. A fishermen is at the sea side catching fish to feed his family. He has a trident he is using to catch them. When suddenly a swordsmen from a oppressive rival nation sees him, and goes to slay him. The fishermen stands his ground and fights. Who will win?
@Skallagrim I happen to own one of Windlass' older swords, the "Ranger sword". The metal on it is probably some kind of medium-carbon spring steel and you can tell it by the ringing of the blade. I tried it vs. a buddys HEMA purpose sharp longsword and it bit in pretty deep. So my personal interpretation on their stuff is that it's pretty but almost completely useless. Wallhangers the lot of them.
Their Viking type swords seem to be decent from my experience. I have several and have put them through hard use and they've held up. I have a couple high end swords but don't want to risk damaging them fighting so the Windlass swords are used.
I have three Windlass swords: their Blacksword, Homildon Hill, and 15th Century Longsword. The Blacksword was really nice, but the scabbard was way too tight; you needed two hands and a lot of effort to sheath and unsheath the blade. The Homildon Hill was really nice; great balance, comfortable handle, and aesthetically pleasing. But one day I rested it against a box and it slipped and fell. It only fell maybe a foot, barely anything, but the impact jarred the pommel and now it is so loose I feel uncomfortable wielding it. But the 15th Century Longsword; that is a pure beauty. Shame they discontinued it. It is so well balanced that even a shorter, weaker person like me can wield it one handed. As for the sharpness; I had all three sharpened by Kult of Athena, and they are quite sharp. The 15th Century one especially; I've cut myself just polishing the blade. I once rested it on my bed unsheathed, and when I picked it up, it cut the blanket as I pulled it towards me. One Halloween I wore it to a costume party. Someone walked into the blade; just bumped their shin into it really. But that was enough to give them a bad cut. So maybe Windlass are harder to sharpen than others, but once they are sharp, they holds an edge well and cut just fine.
Please do Del tin next! Looking for affordable Sword to abuse, don't have the stones to test my Albion like you :) Think I remember Matt Easton Said ones that Del tin were one of the better brand in the budget range.
I purchased a conan the barbarian sword from them. Obviously blunt..... until I sharpened it. Takes a couple of hours and finesse but worth it. I'll tell you what blunt was still a very dangerous weapon.
I curled to my mace and softly whispered "don't worry,you are still battle ready for me, don't listen to him..." while stroking it gently.
_Pets warhammer and mace (and bec de corbin and trench club and Hussite polearm flail thing and three war clubs and maul and bar mace)_
It's okay, Skall didn't mean it. Kind of. I mean, he totally meant it, but... y'know... yeah... stop being such crybabies, you are literal blunt weapons.
Fairly sure when he said “battle ready” he meant blades/swords. Not just weapons in general.
@metalfaust19 maces in general are quite affordable and easy to find good ones. Even Tod Cutler bronze mace heads are reasonably inexpensive
Their maces are pretty solid in my opinion, and their spears are pretty nice too
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Question: Would you damage the edge to save a limb?
Answer: Not if its an Albion.
Q: Would you damage a limb to save an Albion?
A: ... Fok yea.
I like them for budget items in general. They are decent and useable if you have a small grinder to hone the edge typically.
Use stones. Grinders are best used by chimpanzees.
2:22 That was a very impressive squeaky door impression :o
I was thinking the exact same thing!
dude I read this right as it happened wtf
Marko Stojadinov im your 69th comment
I mean like lol
@Fab I love the matching of your name and profile picture :D Thranduil should be the the new face of Schauma ... the best hair in Middle Earth deserves no less ^^
I own a Windlass Steelcrafts sword that I had custom sharpened and it was fantastic, it sliced through bottles and cartons like they weren't even there. Then I accidentally struck the 4x4 stand the bottle was standing on and the top six inches of the blade snapped off. It wasn't even a full-strength swing. I don't recommend them, myself.
Most definitely wasn't just the sword's fault. How hard did you swing? At what angle did you hit the stand? What material was the stand? How stabilized wasnthe stand?
Sidenotr: I've heard before, don't know if it's true, that sharpening blunt reproductions can seriously mess up the blade's integrity and turn them into what amounts to a large glasshard. Super sharp but one bad impact and that's it.
Definitely in favor of more videos on individual manufacturers.
Skall, the swords are made blunt as they are because India does not allow the export of sharpened blades.
Yes, but the statement about their "battle-ready" swords is from Museum Replicas Limited in the US. And they still offer them blunt by default, with a sharpening option that costs extra.
True, if they imported them and Museum Replica sharpened them for free before selling that would be one thing but they advertise them as battle ready blunted.
Agnish Roy That may be a case, but I'm speaking of exported production pieces. Not ceremonial religious practices.
Captain Harlock In all honesty, if a person is really into swords and cutting with them, they should learn how to service their tools. Warriors from all time periods have had to service their own weapons. You can't hold up a battle to have your sword or spear or armor sent off to a a professional to have it serviced. You do it yourself.
Personally, I wouldn't knock a product because of the edge it came with. That is an issue that can be fixable yourself. What matters more is structural integrity and the tempering of the steel.
I happen to like Windlass blades quite a bit. For the price they are good pieces, and can be made excellent with just a little work and care.
Agnish Roy Yeah that does sound like a weird practice. But blade laws can be weird, especially in places like India where these things are a lot more prominent in the culture and life than here in the States, or in most Western nations.
but skal in a battle situation you're supposed to defend your edge with your own body before allowing it to take damage!
Nathan Carter no, you're supposed to defend the pommel with your own body and your edge
The pummel is perfectly capable of defending itself.
If I drop one of my swords onto the concrete I do my best to dive beneath it's path to soften the blow, as all true warriors should.
Fixing edge damage just isn't worth it.
You are supposed to use your sword to take ALL damage from another sword. It is a tool. You can fix a sword or gods forbid replace it. Try replacing your freaking arm.
The company did explain the 1mm wide edge with the fact that it allows them to sell them to a much broader public and export them to far wider range of countries. I'm fine with that, I didn't get bent out of shape when I got my regimental kukri and saw that it was blunt. Calling it battle ready or whatever it was is of course misleading to say the least, but it's still a lot better than selling sharp crap, like all of these combat-/survival-/zombie- fantasy knife manufacturers do.
That regimental kukri I bought once upon a time was flawlessly made, by the way, and once I took a file to the edge and then sharpened it, it turned into one of the least disappointing large knives in my collection. It was cheap, too, so it's not something I've felt I need to treat like a delicate little butterfly.
An honest and detailed opinion, as always. I like this review of weapon manufacturer. It would be great if you would do more for others as well. I think it can help a lot of people who are not sure which one to choose.
I have a Kukri. It was passed to my great grandfather by a Gurkha he served with in Africa, apparently.
Very nice knife.
Made by Windlass?
@@cavalryscout no but he wanted to tell everyone about it
Yes!! Please continue making videos about the different companies available! I have no experience in sword collecting, so hearing the pros and cons of the major companies from someone like Skallagrim who strives to be objective would be super helpful.
"A sword is flying at me, but this sword cost a lot, look how good it looks, it'll be a shame if the enemy damaged my edge and- Aaaaaand there goes my arm" - The life of Medieval soldier according to windlass.
great work skall I've been with you since you were at 5000 and the qaulity has remained the same over the years keep it up!!
Over the years. Learn to appreciate your criticism and review well done
You should make a video about which countries have the fewer bans on weapons and which ones have the most.
Windlass is a nice option for those looking for a specific type of sword they wouldn't usually collect and don't want to spend $400+ dollars on it. Also a great starting point for college students or other penny pinching HEMA practitioners.
Definitely would like to see more of these for all manufacturers you feel like you have sufficient knowledge to talk about.
the pirate captains hanger they make is amazing. i cut into a grounding rod that i forgot to take out of the box my dryer came in. there was barely any edge damage, i touched up the edge for only a few minutes a couple days later and it barely looks damaged.
Throwing it out there skall, yes please more of these if you can. Always nice to have a baseline on manufacturers which is hard to find without a TON of bias behind it.
Hold on a second, they're arguing that "Battle ready" means "Unsharpened" because in battle you could ruin a sword's edge by crossing it with another sharp edge?.
So, in essence their whole argument is "would you have your sharp edge damaged in the battle?, no ,right?. That's why all swords were dull metal clubs, because if you had a sharp edge then it might be damaged, so better to have no edge to begin with, that way you don't get a weapon rendered useless in the middle of a fight...you go instead with an useless one to begin with".
Holy shit do some people make no sense when inventing excuses....
I don't want to run out of ammo in battle. That's why I don't bring any ammo.
"kult of athena which i generally recommend because of the good prices and international shopping" yeah good prices u pay $200-$300 for a sword and shipping is $120 USD, kill me now
Atomic Horizen Same here
Check out Southern Swords.
Yeah the shipping really is hella steep, $150 to norway plus import tax in addition!
@@ConsciousBrosCommunity I am new, how do you guys check the shipping price
@@snoopcat9351
Gotta go thru the checkout process and enter shipping location details, then you'll get a price
Disclaimer: edge not included
To be fair, the 1860 light cavalry saber was manufactured blunt and was so hard most union soldiers couldnt really put an edge on it with just a stone. So their m1860 is perfect
I like the little grin you made when that cut corner joke came out.
I for one, would like to see more videos that cover specifics about the different manufacturers.
This is actually something I've been interested to hear from you. Cheers!
We're people really not interested in manufacturer reviews? I would love to see more.
More videos like this would be greatly appreciated.
Can we get Hanwei next? I've been looking into their blades but I am very paranoid on brands.
This^
I'd recommend their Tinker Pearce line
He's delivered! Hoohah!
I would LOVE to see more company reviews from you. +1 to that, definitely!
I loved the style and honesty of the review, great job as always skall and looking forward to more product company reviews! I plan on getting the budget tatical gladius, but will defer to other companies for any higher end swords that i wish to buy. (I use them for hunting safety and protection in dangerous woods near where i live to conserve ammo for game.)
I would defiantly like to see more of this video type it was extremely useful; its good to know which manufacturers you can trust, especially for what specific weapon type. Are all the Windlass gladioluses bad? If so who is a good manufacturer of gladioluses and weapons from antiquity and the early medieval age which is my favorite period of to collect from?
i have a cobra falcata that i used yesterday to go to work clearing brush and never chipped or dulled that much so i was pretty impressed
I remember reading a review on Cold Steel's Shamshir and the blade being reviewed had an almost faded "Windless made in India" stamp near the tang.
So It's safe to say that Cold Steel = Windless + Sharpened blades.
I beg to disagree
*good windlass blades with terrible cold steel hilts*
I thought Cold Steel was made in South Africa
Cold steel is a garbage company. Do not support them if you appreciate historical weaponry. They trademarked the historical term “San mai” and have attempted (unsure if successfully) to sue companies for using it
Good steel, bad handles.
Thanks for the video, it was indeed interesting. Personally, I'd enjoy seeing your opinions on other manufacturers, and your picks of what items you would buy of theirs
love these kind of videos please keep making them!!!
You should do your opinion of cold steel. Haven't seen you review much of their stuff, great video as always, keep it up!
I just received "The Dark Prince from" Dark Sword Armory. They are in my opinion nothing less that the Finest Forge on the Planet!
This would definitely make a good series. Thanks, Skall!
I appreciate your concise explanation!
I used to own that Windless Shamshir you mentioned. I got it from MRL and it was called their Scimitar. It was very well balacned and fast and deadly in the hand. I loved it and regret getting rid of it. But you mentioned the guard being seemingly laquuered or something. Something else about the guard; I dropped my sword on my hard ceramic tile kitchen floor and th guard bent. So it is evidently made of pot metal or some other soft metal. But I still love it. I also owned the Cold Steel one which also made by windless has a brass guard.
Lindybeige made an entire video dedicated to explaining why hitting with the edge is often a good idea. He touched upon the brief points you made, among others. I recommend that for anyone interested in hearing more on that subject.
Thanks for the review - I have three windlass steelcraft swords so far. I don't do heavy cutting but the ones I have seem ok.
I've had a Windlass rapier since the early 2000's. I've been pretty easy on it, but it's a very accurate thruster for someone of my limited skill/experience.
for those curious, 10XX steel is just carbon steel, some companies like zombie tools use a 51XX spring steel (I think the specific is 5160). As Skall mentioned the last 2 digits refer to the carbon content in 10ths of a percent. the 1060 mentioned has .60% carbon in the steel. The first 2 digits refer to the alloying elements.
5160 is great spring steel for blades!
Just get them professionally sharpened! That's what I do and that works well!
I echo your sentiments.
For semantic purposes, I would say they are indeed Battle durable or Battle ready, but they are not Competition sharp. Over the years I've owned several Windlass swords, purchased through Museum Replicas or Atlanta Cutlery, and the selections I've made have been well-constructed pieces, despite lacking distal taper.
Skall, could you do a video on repairing rusty swords to usable swords. So tips on how to take rust off a dull blade, and sharpening it afterwards without harming it.
I'm definitely interested in more videos like this.
I have several of their swords and the sharpening done by them is extremely sharp.
Good video Skall. To added to it, from my experience so far and from what I have heard it appears that Windlass's quality is improving as their newer lines so far appear to be of good quality. But I still need to run more tests on more of their swords.
The Windlass Battle Cry line comes sharpened, the edge cuts out of the box but could be better as it is sharpened to a steep angle. From my tests with the Maldon Viking Sword I have found it to be durable, it was neither bent, chipped, nor was the finish damaged after many strong strikes into a 5in tree trunk. Also its handling felt good to me. I am planning to make a few reviews of different blades from the line, once the semester is over.
All fair comment, to my way of thinking. Key terminology should be defined by the maker, or if sold by an intermediary, by that person. Clarity of that sort keeps customer disappointments to a minimum.
The Oakesshott type XIV is quite good, too and I am satisfied with the Erbach Castle sword as well.
These are useful, please make more for the other companies you use.
Indian Law states that no weapon can be exported sharp, they cannot sell you a sharp blade.
awesome review! great passion my brotha!
Gods, I love Kult of Athena. I've had nothing but good experiences with them.
I've two Windlass swords, both came sharp from where I ordered them from. They cut just fine.
I recently purchased a Battlecry Bowie, I love it, it came very sharp, after stropping its razor sharp. I haven’t abused it yet but it definitely feels confidence inspiring. Would I carry it into battle, probably not as it’s big and heavy and I already own a proven BK7, but I would definitely not feel uncomfortable using it for that purpose. They are inexpensive, relatively, have a good sheath and handle, I had to upgrade both on the BK7 and do take a hell of an edge with proper sharpening.
I have a couple of their blades. I get the sharpening service done when I purchase them. They are pretty good quality.
I purchased a few items that didn't fit and returned or I had to strap, buckle, and rivet some of my helmets. I have been ordering from Museum Replicas since the early 1990's. The quality is usually very good, however my biggest problem with Museum Replicas is their back orders. I have been waiting for an order since spring 2023.
Their claims aside; are they allowed to export a sharpened sword?
Aninquin: Bullshit!!! Cold Steel's swords and knifes are manufactured in India and they come sharp right out of the box! The Windlass Cobra line are sold sharp right out of the box! Just to mention two examples. So stating "India does not allow the export of sharpened blades" is utter bullshit and nothing else!!!! There are NO law in India preventing the export of sharp blades!!!
Verdunveteran Again, unnecessary use of aggressive language.
A Terran Republic Grunt language cannot be aggressive.
My work here is done!
@XerasDezarrys I know this is a year late but this is one fucking brilliant comment.
2:40 Actually for reenactment and HMB we don't want increased flexibility or reduced weight. We want them to hit hard. Also, based on many historic tournaments regulation the ideal weight for one-handed sword is 1250 grams at least.
The only problem with Windlass blades is the edge. Most reenacting tournaments or HMB events require 2mm thick "edge". Well and the points aren't rund enugh.
Well as you and others have pointed out if the edge was never to contact another edge, then the cruciform guards wouldn't have been in-line with the edge.
I have two Windlass swords, the Eglinton Backsword and the Sword of the Thirty Years War rapier. I haven't sharpened either of them. The backsword is on the heavy side, though it appears within the weight range for an original, and has a rather chunky "edge." I keep meaning to travel the few blocks to the Royal Ontario Museum and see if I can compare it to the original on which it was based, but I just never seem to get there.
The rapier wouldn't take a huge amount of work to sharpen as it has a thinner blade and more shallow geometry. The tempering on it seems to be fairly good as it's not overly floppy and returns to true, when bent perhaps 8" or more offline.
Very nice video, Mr Skall. Do a similar video about Del Tin.
I believe another reason Windlass was founded was to make steady work for Gurkha soldiers who were retired or disabled
My guess as to why so many manufacturers make blunt swords is because it is a lot easier to ship and there is less hassle (ie permits). I know that in New Zealand there are a lot of rules like that with fines for companies if they sell edged weapons.
I have a windlass steel craft 15th century German bastard sword so far my best sword yet, mine came professionally sharpened (most likely in the USA where I live and ordered it).
As someone who's poor as f***, windlass's cutlass is my pride and joy, it cuts alright too.
Leir and it ends rightly too
I like the apoc Cutlass myself.
I have the Sword of Roven (or European longsword) and their version of the Ulfbehrt. Both seem nice for the price. No major flaws or excessive wobbliness.
Was a bit worried he was going to say they're junk and not to buy them. I just purchased my 1st sword yesterday. A 1860 Union light Calvary saber by windlass. (I also have a Japanese imperial Navy katana. But I inherited that one.)
Windlass is a great company. I own several swords from them. You're being too literal and critical. But I still love ya, man. Keep up the great reviews.
I've owned one sword by Windlass - their umbrella sword. I really liked the design. It had a long carbon steel blade that could be easily deployed with a button (as opposed to the short, stainless steel, screw-ins that you find everywhere). But ultimately, the umbrella barely worked and the blade was so thin and skinny that it was flexing under its own weight. I gave it one test stab on the box it came in and it went through nicely. But I really didn't trust how floppy and skinny the blade was.
I also couldn't find any good reviews of the sword. Such as what it was made out of and whether or not it was heat treated. For the price point, I'd guess 1055 carbon steel and non heat-treated. I considered keeping it and doing a review so that there would be a comprehensive review on the product. But I decided not to since it was discontinued and I was really worried about the blade breaking. So I sent it back. Really a loss of potential. It was a darn shame.
Skall, can you please play Mount and Blade Warband or Bannerlord when it's out?
that would be cool,or bannerlord when it comes out.
Turtlecream if it ever comes out. Only half a decade in waiting for likely the most simple game on the market
They waited so long with Bannerlord that almost the entire competitive scene died out :(
Anybody here playing Kenshi ?
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Shit, I need to do something with my life...
Every few months I spend a week or two just playing Kenshi. It's one of those games that's really hard to get back into if you take a break for a while. Always end up starting a new game.
I've bought three of their blades.
Two snapped at the hilt, due to how they were welded together.
It was a very simple, non-abusive cutting test.
Huh, I always thought they were all one-piece full tang.
@@matthewpham9525 The hilts were welded on
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Dang, which models did you buy? Whatever you got, I plan to avoid lol.
@@matthewpham9525 One was their grosse-messer (not the Cold Steel one they have now... I guess they didn't like doing refunds or replacements? They don't have their own grosse-messer any more), the other was a more fantasy-type blade with a demon eye in the pommel.
More of these manufacturer history videos, please! :D
3:47 - While using a stone it is best to sharpen at a media device playing Skallagrim videos.
Heya, Skal! In regards to the swords being blunt, I'm pretty sure that India has export laws for weapons stating that you can't export a "sharp" weapon, which is why their items (and all indian made items) are purposely shipped blunt.
Im looking for a cool wallhanger that i can take outside and cut some cans or whatever and not have it break. Ive heard generally good things about the bosworth longsword for its price point and im wondering if it would fit my needs?
You can have them sharpened before they ship. Mine came out of the box shaving hair. You can see me using their windlass steel crafts sticklestad, my cuts our horrible but the blade was awesome.
You need to review the American Revolutionary Saber. That thing is properly peened. Even with the sharpening service, it is still incredibly priced.
In this price range, you can get 'good but with caveats', or 'shoddy shite'. These days I think Windlass mostly falls in the former category. I have a Windlass Great Ouse River Sword (sharpened by Kult of Athena), which is a long, thin, Type 17 stabbing longsword, and the Cobra Steel Wakazashi.
My experience with the longsword is similar to Skall's experience with the Shamshir. The blade is excellent quality, the fittings are more basic, and it has developed some slight looseness at the crossguard that I will have to shim. The flexible sheath is cheap but perfectly functional. The blade is very long, thin, and flexible, but the sword is a phenomenal thruster, and it shows no signs of being too flexible or being prone to bending. It is lightened and stiffened with a 2/3 blade-length fuller, making it very light and nimble for a blade that long. I've not done super abusive testing on it, but I have thrust it through a wide variety of targets and it performs well (I've even successfully thrown it like a javelin just for fun). Given the blade shape it's not the best cutter in the world, but at or below its center of percussion it cuts cleanly and without undue effort. The blade is light, well balanced, and properly shaped with good distal taper.
The Cobra Steel blade is amazing for the price. Decent construction, serviceable edge, and a sheath all for around 55 bucks. The Wakazashi has this REALLY stupid and uncomfortable square grip, but since its made entirely out of rubber I was able to reshape it into a more oval octagon shape in minutes, and it is now VERY comfortable to use. The steel is a bit on the soft side, but the entire package is amazingly functional for the ridiculously low price.
While I've only owned a few Windlass blades, my impression is that over the years they've improved their designs, and most of their newer stuff is probably a good buy. You may run into issues like hilt looseness, but nothing dealbreaking. For the price they have a lot to offer.
Thanks. I've seen a ton of reviews saying that their longer blades are super whippy, and I can just imagine in my nightmares while I sleep, holding the rapier I want from Windlass (The 17th century Italian rapier), and being able to bend the blade completely back to the hilt, and more so, like 360 degree bend. I literally had a dream like that. It was terrible. So, seeing that you didn't have a problem with a long blade from Windlass, it really puts me at ease.
have you considered that certain nations have restrictive laws in regards to the importation/exportation of sharp swords
I don't know though, I believe there is a video on youtube of an individual cutting tatami with a 1mm blunted edge and he is doing it with ease. I am assuming the meaning in their statement means can function the same in terms of handling and durability. I think the dull edge argument is just slightly over critical but just my idea on the subject.
I would enjoy more steel craft brand reviews
In the past 16 years I have had 3 windlass pieces. All 3 had issues. 1st was a discontinued war hammer, came with broken brass screws in the lower handle cap/spike. 2nd was an all steel stylet dagger. it got knocked off a work table, maybe 3 feet from the ground, and broke right at the guard/handle seam (inside was just a poorly welded threaded rod, which was what broke) and last was the cobra steel kinjal dagger. Came bent at an angle right at the base of the blade. When I called to get a return for it, as soon as I said what it was, the CS rep asked right away, "its got a bend in it,right?". They knew about the issue, even said the entire lot they had was bad, and the replacement batch had the same issues, and yet still let this one go out. Never again will I buy this brand
So my main thing is I want to get a functional Highland Broadsword (or Backsword, I'm not picky) and I'm on a budget. One of the things I want it for, other than practice cutting, is as a potential dress sword for certain functions (I'm of scots heritage, living in the US). I've looked at Hanweii, Windlass, and Cold Steel, that's roughly my budget range. Of them, the Windlass looks most attractive to me, but I don't want a sword that can't function as a sword. So here then is my question, which would the community recommend for this purpose?
I like, please, to have some more info or a link on that dagger you mentioned that could be bought on a limited budget.
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Wow same, I got this recommended to me after watching his video reaction on cringe bands. Although to be fair I already watched skall before.
Hahhaha. Greetings there, pal. I found this channel while watching one of Jared's videos as well. Recomendations, you know
An idea for a scenario I had for a while goes like this.
A fishermen is at the sea side catching fish to feed his family. He has a trident he is using to catch them.
When suddenly a swordsmen from a oppressive rival nation sees him, and goes to slay him.
The fishermen stands his ground and fights.
Who will win?
@Skallagrim I happen to own one of Windlass' older swords, the "Ranger sword". The metal on it is probably some kind of medium-carbon spring steel and you can tell it by the ringing of the blade. I tried it vs. a buddys HEMA purpose sharp longsword and it bit in pretty deep. So my personal interpretation on their stuff is that it's pretty but almost completely useless. Wallhangers the lot of them.
Their Viking type swords seem to be decent from my experience. I have several and have put them through hard use and they've held up. I have a couple high end swords but don't want to risk damaging them fighting so the Windlass swords are used.
DO they have unskrewable pommels though?
I have three Windlass swords: their Blacksword, Homildon Hill, and 15th Century Longsword.
The Blacksword was really nice, but the scabbard was way too tight; you needed two hands and a lot of effort to sheath and unsheath the blade.
The Homildon Hill was really nice; great balance, comfortable handle, and aesthetically pleasing. But one day I rested it against a box and it slipped and fell. It only fell maybe a foot, barely anything, but the impact jarred the pommel and now it is so loose I feel uncomfortable wielding it.
But the 15th Century Longsword; that is a pure beauty. Shame they discontinued it. It is so well balanced that even a shorter, weaker person like me can wield it one handed.
As for the sharpness; I had all three sharpened by Kult of Athena, and they are quite sharp. The 15th Century one especially; I've cut myself just polishing the blade. I once rested it on my bed unsheathed, and when I picked it up, it cut the blanket as I pulled it towards me. One Halloween I wore it to a costume party. Someone walked into the blade; just bumped their shin into it really. But that was enough to give them a bad cut. So maybe Windlass are harder to sharpen than others, but once they are sharp, they holds an edge well and cut just fine.
Battlecry lone looks pretty strong. Around 250 on KoA.
So, Skall, which manufacturer might you review next?
Please do Del tin next! Looking for affordable Sword to abuse, don't have the stones to test my Albion like you :) Think I remember Matt Easton Said ones that Del tin were one of the better brand in the budget range.
I purchased a conan the barbarian sword from them. Obviously blunt..... until I sharpened it. Takes a couple of hours and finesse but worth it. I'll tell you what blunt was still a very dangerous weapon.
I have Windlass' Sword of Tancred, and i must say, it came from the factory pretty damn sharp