"Heart of Steel" Explanation and Analysis
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- Опубліковано 14 лют 2023
- A wartorn nation confronts a daunting new challenge: selecting a Eurovision song that does not feature flautist Ihor Didenchuk.
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he plays the flute, he's cute, his esc domination is absolute OH I CAN'T😭
One year they're going to send just Ihor playing all the instruments and will win 😂
Also the knowledge that Didenchuk is a member of both Go A and Kalush Orchestra was a passive knowledge in my brain before this video.
I would add to all of these the lyrics of the song itself. Not only they're in English, they also not as literal about war as Jerry Heil or Krut. Unlike them, they don't use the literal word war or some heavy sad talking about consequences of the war. They went much, much smarter than that. The whole song is just like some talking to russian government and/or russian people supporting the war and using some stupid arguments for it. And this talking is not like full of expected anger/sadness or something. It's a talking with a pride, with a head held high: "I cannot explain, tell you how I feel." "You try to act like a fool", OK, maybe, what can I do, I guess "Life is just a game and I'm playing for a win", so simply "Get out of my way cause I've got a heart of steel". And also there's a universal advice in the pre-chorus fitting to almost any life situation: "Don't be scared to say just what you think, cause no matter how bad, someone's listening"
Excellent points, this is something we'll address when we talk about Czech Republic. One of the criticisms "My Sister's Crown" received is that it's maybe too focused on peace, not enough on victory. The Ukrainian people don't seem to want to hear about peace. They want to hear about KICKING ASS.
@@overthinkingit I mean, it’s not like about kicking ass literally, it’s just mostly pride. My sister’s crown is a more general song about unity of Slavic countries. It was inspired by the situation too, of course. But the songs like that can only focus on peace, they don’t go way too deep
Omg finally someone who understands it!
As Ukrainian I feel like my fellow citizens perceive Eurovision a liitle bit different than the others. It's also because we never had a chance to show ourselves - Russia always tried to make us believe we are incapable to make great music. In 2014 it became even worse. Russian propaganda was spreading across the world and we needed to take actions. In 2023, when world has many distorted feelings about us (thanks to russian propaganda) we must present ourselves in a way Tvorchi do. We can't look at Eurovision just as a pop contest. It's a great way for us convince we aren't nazis or some other crazy stuff. And it's not like we love to do it, we should. Our lives depend on it. The entries before the war prove it. I know people from other countries will never understand our feelings towards the contest and just will say we are too political, and it's great for them! I don't think anyone should go through smth similar.
Anyways, thanks for your video. It was nice hearing your analysis and jokes about Ihor Didenchuk were great!
You have shown yourself in the right light since 2014 by killing Russian children.
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As a Dane I cannot for the life of me understand that there are people that really believes Putins stupid nazi propoganda. It makes no sense.
You Ukraines are doing amazing and it is such a treat to hear how you are making it through. I and the people I know are celebraiting every victorie you are doing. I freaking wish that we can send all the help and that you all are well. We are all looking forward to your victory in this war
@@Summer_and_Rain that's so sweet... thank you so much for the support
I think Czechia and Croatia's entries overshadowed this in the grand scheme of things.
Heart of Steel isn't a winning song on the surface and that's okay. I think one thing to appreciate about it is the lyrics can resonate with anyone (Basically a feeling of empowerment in any context), is pretty radio friendly and if Ukraine is gonna send something risky/out of the ordinary might as well be the year they automatically qualify.
As a Ukrainian I legit burst into laughter at 12:10
Also Maruv drama that started this fun tradition was less about her not wanting to be a "propaganda mouthpiece" and more about UA:PBCs last minute introduction of a a rule that prohibited artists who performed in russia and russia-controled territories since 2014 from competing. Maruv toured russia and was disqualified, and so the pissing contest begun.
Yeah we greatly oversimplified the 2019 situation. Thanks for the context.
Also she was very pro-russian and spread lots of harmful to Ukraine narratives. Basically she was a propaganda mouthpiece, but for ruzzia
good points! as a Ukrainian, I am ok with someone else winning this time )) We are just here to showcase something different and have a break from the war thoughts.
I'm ok with Ukraina winning this year to. And every year until Ukraina is liberated again. Eurovision has to be political. Also since you are fighting Russia on our behalf. So. I will vote for Ukraina, Tjeckien and Kroatien (as we name your countries). Slava Ukraina 🇸🇪✊🏽🇺🇦♥️
Ps. Also voted for Jamala and Go_A back in the days. Great songs and singing.
@@eurovego 💌💌💌
@@eurovego go_A were my number 1 too. loved them
@@eurovego 💙💛💙💛💙💛
I want to join the opinions of other Ukrainians here. This year, more than anything else, we want to simply show that our country is as diverse as our music. This year, Ukrainians are not aiming to win the Eurovision Song Contest. Now we dream of another victory.
p.s. I still regret to remember how many voices there were that we won only because of the war. Those people probably do not know Ukrainians. Victory with compassion is not our choice. We would like to win fair competitions.
Eh, I think it's a bit of both. People who vote are still people, and if you sympathise with someone, you're gonna like them more. If you're rooting for someone, they're just gonna sounds a little bit better. So yeah, maybe Ukraine would have gotten a few points less if Russia hadn't invaded. However, Stefania is just a fantastic song all around. Chances are they still would have won.
I was suprised Tvorchi was played before on college radio and some local stations in Europe before! With this song I could even see them get points from Australia, as it resembles some stylistic similarities to their greatest musical electronic export in the last 10 years, Flume.
that last part with the flute guy was hilarious 😂
I always welcome R&B at Eurovision, it's a genre that so under-represented! Also, it's about time Epic Sax Guy had a challenger 😆
Didenchuk is bound to be at Eurovision in some capacity--in an interval by Kalush Orchestra, or Go_A, maybe...?
The answer has now been confirmed to be BOTH :D
Great! I like him a lot!
Im ukrainian and here to tell that you did so awesome job! I learned about Paddington from you here
Okay, the Didenchuk thing really made me laugh 😅
I don’t love the 🇺🇦 entry this year, but you made a pretty good argument for it.
That's a cool video! You totally got our message, and you didn't judge us for it 🥰😚👋Thanks a lot!
Heart of Steel is just a great song in general.
The main problem with instrumentalists at Eurovision is that they cannot play their instruments live anymore. So, what's the point? Krutь was the superior act. And she could have use a hologram of herself playing the instrument.
A Ukrainian thank you for this video and your support!
Could you do a video about Croatian entry Mama ŠČ?🙏 As Croatian myself I'm not happy with my country's choice, but it would interesting to hear an intelligent analysis by long-term and impartial Eurovision fans
We will definitely get to it, but there's a lot to unpack! Might take a while!
I would love to see a video about that entry as well. Keep in mind it will require some research to get the back story on that one.
Your humour throughout the video is awesome, had me burst out laughing! Thank you for the video and all the little explanations. Love from Ukraine 💛💙
Just started to watch and already need to comment: 👏👏👏👏 well said!
I also get mad when people say "politics" when they mean "war", it's not the same thing! Calling "politics" to "war" is insulting and dishonest.
Good video, insightful and informative as always. ☺
Good news, Ihor Didenchuk DID make an appearance this year! Not as a competitor, but still!
He can’t be stopped.
Since you brought up the American Song Contest again, it's starting to look like it might have been one-and-done. Executive producer Christer Björkman has confirmed that there will not be a second edition in 2023, and the production company is now aiming for a renovation on 2024. Do you think they should get their hopes up?
I'm sure someone will try it again, someday. But I'm not getting my hopes up. It's actually a fascinating case study on why manufacturing viral buzz is hard, if not impossible. They threw a lot at the wall: silly songs, serious songs, celebrity songs, all genres... nothing stuck.
I watched it. it was weird, like in giant stage budget and not enough audience weird. Snoop was enjoying himself thought. Have I seen the first of many idk
Thank you for the analysis.
I missed this show. Welcome back.
Brilliant assessment as always! I think your points are all very correct and astute and I think there is just one more thing to add to it: I’m not sure this is a winning song, which is probably what Ukraine wants it to be. A top 10 sure, but its simplicity and lack of provocatively emotive score isn’t going to win the hearts of Europe in the same way Kalush did. I think Ukraine wants to avoid another potential win where some of their national broadcaster budget needs to be spent on hosting and being at the very centre of the Europe-wide media circus for a couple of months. The UK is obviously spending a lot on the contest as well (very nice propaganda for the UK too - a way to show they are supporting Ukraine without getting directly involved militaristically and risking even worse conflict with Russia) but doubtless Ukraine is also forking out in some way and probably worries about it; look at 90s Ireland for a good indicator, Eurovision nearly bankrupted their national broadcaster! The huge number of Ukrainian refugees in other countries now may push them further up the leaderboard but if a really solid song pops up from elsewhere this year, I’m not sure the 5 million spread around the countries with much larger populations is going to make a significant enough dent that Ukraine will get 12 points across the board in televote like last year (not that the diaspora was the reason for that at the time, don’t get me wrong).
That also means I don’t think the UK will push as hard for a win as they did last year either - they’ve got as close as they could and get to bring Eurovision back to the country once, I think the BBC is going to be like “nice, we did it, that’s enough for now”.
I hope you will talk about Mama SC soon! I'm a huge fan of the song and I'm excited to see your analysis of it.
Working on it!
You said we won once at 1:18m but we actually won two times (and it's three already): in 2004, 2016, 2022
You know you have to make a video about "Mama ŠČ". You know you have to. You know.
Very interesting!❤
This song was too slick and polished for me. I wanted it to go harder. But excellent analysis as always.
OMG that vegan song made me laugh so hard. I did NOT see that coming XD
Well said 👌
Is Shurov the X Factor Ukraine judge who grabbed the guitar of a contestant and broke it on stage?
He is! We were going to mention that but this video was so long already.
this bold guy deserves a raise !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! Thank you for your so detailed research of the history of our participation.
Greetings from Ukraine
Wow, this is absolutely amazing! Everything you say is on point! Very funny and entertaining. Much love from Ukraine!
For Ukraine Manowar's Heart of Steel is Perfect, not any other one.
I live for the sarcastic jokes from the vids.
9:20 Pharmacology isn't pharmacy, pharmacologists research medication, pharmacists sell medications
Oh wow that seems obvious now. Totally missed that, now I feel like the joke was inadvertently mean.
I loved Heart of Steel. And the guys are just... cool. Who cares about winning Eurovision when you have these two smooth fashion icons singing a badass song?
Overthink Czechia please
It's coming. But we'll wait a few weeks so it's not ALL heavy political stuff.
@@overthinkingit it's in Ukrainian. Have a field day with it
Will you make a video on Let 3?
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please do a video about Dora and Let 3
This actually makes me like the song a lot more and is very well researched and produced (as always).
However, counter argument that you may not have considered, I personally don't like Heart of Gold and love folk music.
Luckily Czechia has stepped up.
More seriously, the ukraine needs the support and i really hope this song does for them what it needs to.
I am all in on Czechia and Croatia so far however. I hope either of these get an analysis vid.
We’ll cover them both!
@@overthinkingit Huzzah!
11:43 You look way hotter without the hair.
"She eats veggies and... mostly just veggies" was this a not-so-thinly veiled mention to Citi Zēni in 2022? 😏😏
Interesting, Jerry Heil went to ESC 2024 with Alyona alyona.
You said Tick-Tock was at Eurovision the year before Russia invaded Ukraine (as in Crimea). Tick-Tock was from 2014, the year of the invasion.
Good catch. But what I was trying to get at was that this was their last pre-war Eurovision SELECTION (the NF final was on December 21, 2013), and then they returned with the grim "1944". What we should have said was, "Just a reminder, this is the song they picked for Eurovision right before they were invaded."
Maybe, just maybe, ESC returns to Zagreb next year, the crime scene of the 1990 ESC. So Croatia finally goes bankrupt.
I like this shit , thanks, it was really good 💙💛
Thank you for your support! You are an incredible person with a big heart, thank you for your empathy for all the pain that Ukraine is going through now, being in a fight against terrorist and very stupid bloody russia
@Matt, may I please point out that you look A LOT hotter nowadays that you did back then with your full hair? So no need for popping some shady eastern european pills in hope of growing it back.
😊 Bald is beautiful, baby! Let 'em know!
I like bald better, don't waste money on those surgeries if current absence of hair suits you better
Ukraine won Eurovision 2 times not 1
We were only talking about the period up to the invasion in 2014. We mention "1944" later.
If we were to correct they won 3 times now, but only once before the crimean invasion
7:23 i almost had a heart attack
Oh, apparently you are petty petty man
I guess it's the perfect choice in the sense that this mediocrity is obviously not going to win ESC, so at least they don't have to worry about that... It's actually a very disappointing one since Maryna Krut's Kolyskova would have been a special entry and it was by far the most deserving option.
Yeeeeahhhhhhh I don't think that this song would have had any chance to win top 10... but there are over 5 million Ukranian refugees in Eurovision voting countries and we have a hunch who they will be voting for.... so they might win the whole thing.
What I was thinking while watching this though is the narrative as it might influance the televote... but the Jury vote?
That's right. We will definitely win again this year because of televoiting. And the next one too. We will colonize hole Europe just for being eternal winner of Ukrainivison.
@@orange_cherry
I wasn't blaming anyone for anything (as you seem to imply) and I think that last year's win was justified in many ways.
But 5 million invested home audience voters is factually a huge advantage. It's not more offensive to say than pointing out every year that some countries such as Romania and Lithuania are benefiting from their diaspora in their televotes, which is much smaller.
It was even pointed out on the overthinking eurovision videos dealing with last year's contest and with political voting.
@@iftyhargil8359 "i wasn't blaming...but". No, you are blaming and honestly i believe that it's quite dumb. Most of votes we got from people who was trying to support us or liked our songs (or both). People that came to Europe came not for a better life or for massive cheating on Eurovision. They run from war and i believe most of them have another problems instead of eurovision.
I know that the real winner is United Kingdom and we literally stole this victory, but it's incredibly nasty to hear that IT'S BECAUSE OF MILLIONS FILTHY UKTAINIANS CHEATED, like...siriously?
By the way, even in case of cheating at the moment of Eurovision 70% of refugees was in Poland ¯\_(ツ)_/
@@orange_cherry
Thanks for reading my response past the first sentence (since your clearly didn't).
1) I wasn't talking about last year.
2) It's factual that currently Ukraine has a large diaspora and that it is likely to affect the televotes. It's not finger pointing. It's a fact that was even mentioned on this channel.
3) You're not the only country that enjoys such an advantage at eurovision, and that is something that is taken into consideration among eurovision fans when discussing things like prospects to make it out of the semi every year. You must be new here. It's just that this year Ukraine has a particular big advantage in that. This is a channel that deals with overthinking different aspects of eurovision. Including expected televote turnout. Deal with it. It's not a discussion about cheating and nobody is saying that anyone "stole" anything.
4) Thanks for telling me what I'm doing when I'm clearly saying that it's not what I'm doing, with an explanation attached.
@@iftyhargil8359 You said that you are not talking about last year - ok. I saw one video and i guess you are reminding about "post communistic countries"? In this case yas, you are right, we have more sympathy then western countries.
But about diaspora it's not a fact it's just your guess, don't want to say triple time (that mostly our refugees live in Poland, in one country and they will be mostly affecting televoiting from Poland).
It's pretty important moment for my country, because i'm sure that for a ten years minimum everyone will be blaming us for "diaspora" and cheating.
meh
Omg, Warmest thanks!!! 🤍
Send some actual musicians. Jinjer is my choice.
Jinjer are loathed by Ukrainian people because they are full on vatniks who jumped ship last year because it's hard to have a record deal with German label when you operate from a country that is going behind iron curtain real fast.
They are Malorosy
100000%
Maruv was right in 2019, Ukrainian propaganda isn't as big and as terrible as Russian propaganda, but it also exists
Propaganda exists in every country on earth, friend. No revelation here. Nor is it something inherently bad. Like with any instrument - what it is used for is what matters.
Maruv live and work in ruzzia now. She did not condemned war and pretending that nothing happening. Ukrainians was right about her: she is lost cause.
Even russian Wikipedia take ukrainian side in covering the war. But this embarrassment will be remembered only as loser in 2019.
I am with people of Ukraine but come on, this is music, entertainment show. not another political song please
your expectations are really off. It goes without saying that they won't have a happy neutral song.
It's an extremely generic electropop song out of context. The only thing that makes it "PoLiTiCaL" is missiles flying in our sky. And (as there's no real way to end this war from our side) the only way to avoid it is to not participate.
If you want political for this years ESC there's:
- Vesna from Chech Republic doing a girlboss makeover for a "brotherly nations" concept russia was feeding us for last 200 years
- Tone-deaf (pun intended) papody of russian regime from Croatia.
Dude the contest was started in the 50s as a way to bring peace to Europe after wwii and when the cold War was starting. One of Germany's first contestants is a Holocaust survivor with a song about his personal experience with it. Eurovision is and always will be political.
@@sarahenchanted not always. and yes i know that and understand situation but not another political song from Ukraine and sympathy voting
Oh sorry, we disappoint you, with our song, whyle we living through bombardments and horrors, waking up in the night from explosion of ballistic missiles near our houses. Do you know how it feels?
We hurt your feelings? You need a safe space, or maybe a pampers? Poor you.
No, the year before the invasion they sent Shum by Go_a , one of my favourites ever!
We consider the invasion to have started in 2014.
russians confirmed that they had troops on the ground both in Crimea and Donbass in 2014
Why was it necessary to lie about Maruv? Dislike