Tron: User Million
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2014
- The Tron 'one hour million': an unachievable goal. The measure of a Tron master is how close he gets to it. Once upon a time in the '80s, I got within five minutes of it. As far as I know, no one has ever come closer.
Here's the second part of my most recent effort. Picking up from the moment I broke the scoreboard for the first time, I proceed to make a second million. My second hour's standard of play is roughly similar to my first's: the time wasting screw ups are frequent, but minor.
This is what I call a 'User million', as all its stages are User. User millions are always faster than the first million. Scoring during the first million lags behind because the low level stages (RPG and Cobol) consume time without offering many points in compensation. All things being equal, the first million will usually take about a minute longer than subsequent millions.
This particular User million takes 1 hour, 5 minutes, 49 seconds. Although it includes some embarrassing moments, it is one of the best times you will ever see. Perfect play will beat this by no more than a minute, I promise you.
Notes on my gameplay:-
(1) No hard spinning, as my hardware doesn't include a dial
(2) What may look like reckless play is actually safe
(3) Always know in advance which light cycle pattern to use.
Notes on the recording:-
(1) Edited to begin just after my score reached 1,000,000
(2) At the one hour mark, my score is 1,909,586
(3) Edited to end as soon as my score reaches 2,000,000.
This game continues into a third million, in which I try to attain the perfect high score. If you want to see the result of that, go to • Tron: Perfect High Score .
Emulator: MAME
ROM: tron
Hardware: X Arcade Dual Joystick - Ігри
I am surprised that the tanks never shoot. I thought I remembered them shooting which is what made it so hard to be exposed. Also the fire rate is very impressive. I'm guessing when I was a kid I didn't have the ability to hit those buttons so rapidly. Finally, no hardware spinner!!! Makes this even more impressive.
Memories from back in 1983-84 when I was 11-12 and this was and will be my all time favorite arcade machine. Mi highest score back then was 324K. Oh yeah, kids that age had skills, unlike today, it's all about a freaking tablet or cell phone playing candy crush. Thanks for uploading this video, you kick ass.
My favorite part is how you do the Light Cycle matches. Almost like you wandered casually into the field and found 3 guys completely twisted on drugs that end up killing themselves in less than 5 seconds.
And you drive away like, "What just happened?"
over two million back in 1983...Loved being the USER! miss those days
A highly skilled Tron warrior. Are you a User? If you are then everything you've done has been according to a plan.
I remember this game from college days. We spent sooo many quarters in this. Finally figured out how the levels repeated. Two levels were on one rotation and two on another rotation. After that is was hours on one quarter. They took the game out because they quit making money from it. Thanks for the look back. You rock!
@JRCKFSH I do. I was a little kid in skateworld/school parties and we all walked around in our socks and played arcades instead lol. I figured Tron out and spent all my time on that instead.
You my friend, are the shit!! You have just vindicated all the quarters I've spent in the 80s! And I was super happy if I made it to level 3..lol. GOOD SHIT!! Do you play Discs of Tron also??
I've never played Discs, but hope to someday remedy that
Discs of Tron was a failure at the arcade in my town because it was a 50 cent per play and very few people wanted to take a risk at that price. At the time Dragon's lair was the only one commanding than price.
I spent MANY O' QUARTERS on this game at Chuck E. Cheese's back in 1984.
Yall youngsters just don't know!
Can't be me you calling a youngster
AlmightyDreadlock NOPE. I was talking to the kids that grew up AFTER the 80s that don't realize how hard this game was because you make it look so easy. After 25yrs, I've NEVER lived to see that MCP cone scroll so fast. I thought it was impossible to reach the top at that speed.
navyman4
Looking at your channel, you like ALL the games I liked too. Elevator Action is my favorite game of all time.
AlmightyDreadlock
Second of all, If I saw that many spiders, I'd just walk away from the game right here. No Way I'm passing that.
i loved this game, i would play it for hours.
Awesome game!! The music was fantastic.
How do you remember the light patterns?
Props on the MCP Cone level. That thing used to kill me like nothing else. And, on a side note, I don't remember spiders being in the movie, but then again I haven't seen it in years...
They're called "grid bugs". They are featured briefly in the solar sailor escape from the original movie where Yori makes a comment about how if the grid bugs get them they would "really have it bad"
it's a fair bet to say you've mastered the zen art of tron Almighty NJ....
You are the Mr Miyagi of Tron .
your still alive in 1 hour. very good
I flipped the score at least two times back in the day!
Really nice gameplay. Especially without a spinner. It would be nice to see you play on a real arcade game. Some of the things you do are really good and require very precise movement. You make it look so easy.
came for the music & sounds. wow ur like D.A.R.Y.L. good @ TRON.. thanks = more gameplay
Legend
I remember playing the hell out of this game way back in the day.
I still do
When anyone plays this game, what the one thing I learned is that, you have to make the right moves. That's make all the right decisions.
I love this game, it's my all time favorite arcade game. I'm good at it but not this good. Maybe if I started to play it again all the time. I have it on MAME.
Silly question but why aren't the tanks firing back?? Played this man many years ago and I'm sure they could fire..
Since enemy tanks don't have rotating turrets, they'll fire only when they see you directly ahead. Lower level tanks' shots move more slowly, so you may have enough time to dodge. If you face down an advanced level tank, expect to die instantly. As you can see, I always hide enough of my tank behind the maze structure, so they can't see me. On very rare occasions, I'm in the line of fire for a split second. This provokes enemy fire, which misses, because I'm already on my way out of the danger zone. Best place to see this is the Assembly stage, where I head straight for the teleportal's top end (6.5 min into Tron: First Million and 7.5 min into Tron: the DC Challenge). Also, there's a point at which the tanks can see you, and will fire, but will miss. To see this illustrated, take a look at Tron: Blue Tanks
Thanks man
How do I know which light cycle pattern to follow in any given screen?
Why do the tanks not shoot back?
I remember a walk-in, stand-up, version of this game. It was so immersive for the time. No, I am not talking about The Discs of Tron.
Anyway, I never scored all that high, but I could get my quarters worth out of this game!
Cool
Man I remember putting the quarters in this game as a kid lol. I tried to get this game in mame but it doesn't work. Does anyone know where to find the one that works???
Fun game!
How are you able to shoot that fast???
I'd love to see a hack of this guy with jay Maynard aka tronguy relaxing the character sprite.
I can't even get passed the first floor
Do the light cycle patterns repeat from the beginning after beating the first user level?
Not from the beginning. When you get as far as User level, you're already into the recapitulation sequences. The light cycles' recap sequence, like the tanks', has five stages. I consider Pascal to be first in the sequence, since the first User level recaps Pascal's light cycles pattern. So, the recap sequence's stages are Pascal, Algol, Assembly, OS and JCL (which are the five stages prior to the first User)
One of my favorite games - my best game lasted 3 .5 hours, can’t remember the score though.
I'd say you scored at least two million
AlmightyDreadlock - hey, thanks. I think fatigue was the problem as patterns repeated over and over. Rygar and Return of the Jedi were two games I could finish. Never got the hang of Defender which was a joy to watch when a master was in action.
Why are there Reconizers on the tank board?
The video dropped before you got 1 million
It's cool that you can play like this with an X-Arcade setup. That seems to be the easiest way to get decent controls for this game. I have been wondering, when playing on an arcade machine, how do you keep the joystick trigger from killing your hand? It gives me an annoying ache after a while.
My X Arcade console is just the standard, I don't have the Tron / Gorf joystick. Even though I haven't laid eyes on one of those things for about a quarter century, I remember exactly how to play with one, without suffering fatigue or RSI. The main difficulty here is that pressing the fire button works against steadying the joystick. If you make one hand do both those jobs, you are sure to suffer for it. The answer to your problem is the two handed technique, in which you use your left hand to hold the joystick still, and your right to fire. Place your left hand on top of the joystick, and keep a firm grip. To fire, vibrate your right hand from the wrist and elbow, avoiding the highly stressful vibration of finger joints.
Obviously, you can't use the two handed technique and the dial, simultaneously. So, you will have to switch from one to two handed, as you play. This may seem awkward, at first, but you'll get accustomed to it
AlmightyDreadlock
I will probably still have to take on the Grid Bugs with one hand moving and firing so that I can aim with the other hand.
Maybe I can get used to it eventually . .
Doctorx0079, back in the day we played through the pain.
So there was no showdown with the CPU at the end?
Don't you get a bonus for destroying all the segments before entering the core? I used to watch a player in St Hellier do this with consummate ease while waiting my turn
That applies to the first two stages, RPG and Cobol, only (see ua-cam.com/video/WVafgizOwlg/v-deo.html)
Gotcha, it's been 34 years since I played this...
shoot, I can code RPG and COBOL(as400 guy) but cant play this well. Good job.
All I learned was BASIC, back in '89
I feel rather bad that I didn't even know of this challenge.
I think you commented on the wrong upload
Actually, I was speaking on the part where you say,"The TRON one hour million; an unachievable goal." I must applaud you for the attempt still. If you happen to have any gameplay for the oldschool game M.A.C.H.3, I am DYING to see that.
Not one of my games, but other gamers have uploaded recordings of high level play. Do a search, I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for
Thanks man. I'll get on that.
Two questions:
1) why would you spend so much time doing this?
2) why did I watch the whole thing?
TAS. It was impossible to shoot this fast on the actual arcade game.
Why do I keep getting these fucking ignorant comments? I am the MAME record holder for this game, you moron. If you watch the replay of my game, you will see me fire at this rate, and the gameplay has been officially verified as completely legitimate. Furthermore, I have already described the two handed method of handling the arcade machine's joystick, which enables players to fire much faster than when using one hand. I suggest you learn more about the game, before running your mouth
one hand or two hands....This cannot be accomplished at this rate with human hands. Played this game for going on 36 years and never have I seen anyone/anywhere fire that fast. And spare me the BS credentials. If you're as old as you claim and as good as you claim, you'd have been a well established arcade GOD by now if any of this nonsense were real.
#Wrecked
Yea, I've never really seen game play like this on Tron, I don't think. And I've seen David Cruz who is a master Tron player. This game play just looks different and crazy but the guy never loses a man AND plays in a way that looks crazy but it's not. Amazing! ~Boyer
the tanks aren't shooting at you, is this a hack?
Lt.Dan They have to see your full body to shoot, which is why he goes to the center and ducks out a bit.
were there not more cycles than 3?
There are never more than three. At the RPG (first) stage, there is one. Every other stage presents the player with three light cycle opponents
How are you shooting so fast I understand the technique to switch hands but is that exactly what you're doing?
I'm playing MAME, here, not an arcade machine. No grip switching going on
@@AlmightyDreadlock Are the patterns the same for the light cycles?
MAME's emulation of the arcade machine is 100% correct
Hmm...tanks that don't shoot back. That's not normal behavior for this game.
There were times you didn't milk spiders or the cone. Would have put you over a million in under an hour.
Why do you stop shooting the bugs? Wouldn't you try to keep shooting them to gain more and more score?
At the time of playing this game, I was still refining my technique of using two buttons to substitute for the dial, so my bug hunting skills weren't good enough to use at every stage
Strange. Many years ago I scored somewhere in the neighborhood of 990,000 on a Tron arcade machine. The odd thing is that it took me about 2 1/2 hours to reach that score. Don't misinterpret what I'm saying. I'm not suggesting anything questionable is going on here. I'm just legitimately curious how you reached a similar score in less than half the time it took me.
The most likely reason you took that long is you wasted time shooting MCP blocks, which slows down your scoring rate because they're worth only 25 points. You probably also did a lot of bug hunting without setting up the side swarm, which also slows down your scoring rate. Add inefficient tank and cycle patterns to the mix, and your scoring rate slows to a crawl
"(3) Always know in advance which light cycle pattern to use." wut
I don't go in the same direction, every stage. So, I must always know which pattern to use, next
Using turbo d pad huh
You shouldn't be able to do that......are you a User?
How come the tanks don't shoot at you?
The Tanks only fire when they can see their target. If you notice he lins himself up so the he kills the tanks first. He's a good player.
So how exactly did you record this? Go Pro camera? To the best of my knowledge, this game has never been available anywhere outside the arcade consile
I ran screen recording software, as I played MAME. MAME has been emulating arcade games, since the '90s. I played this game in 2014
i hate to say this, but i really do think this is faked somehow. Why don't the tanks shoot at you? how can you fire so quickly? i fear this is fraudulent gameplay
Your question about tank fire has been answered, already (see earlier comment and response). I can press buttons fast, but I'm not the fastest presser of buttons in the world, so I don't see what you find so hard to believe
The Tanks only fire when they can see their target. If you notice he lins himself up so the he kills the tanks first. He's a good player.
Lins😂
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I swear the user levels on tron arcade1up are harder than this
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