Biggest Blunders from Best Players: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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  • @NickKravitz
    @NickKravitz 5 місяців тому +123

    After Kramnik's loss, he started the procedure against Deep Fritz.

    • @baoboumusic
      @baoboumusic 5 місяців тому +23

      "Very suspicious"
      - Kramnik

    • @giacomogotta2253
      @giacomogotta2253 5 місяців тому +38

      Apparently Deep Fritz was using an engine

    • @jbarth1986
      @jbarth1986 5 місяців тому +15

      Kind of like when Kasparov accused the deep blue team cheating with human assistance lol

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong 5 місяців тому +4

      He read Ben's book "Cry like a Grandmaster".

    • @aro327
      @aro327 5 місяців тому +2

      Too bad kramniks daughter wasnt at the door so he could let her in.

  • @cmhiekses
    @cmhiekses 5 місяців тому +32

    “Blunder less” as chess advice sounds like “buy low, sell high” as trading advice.

    • @oldmanyellsatscreen
      @oldmanyellsatscreen 5 місяців тому +8

      >Use your time, look around the whole board, do either side have a loose piece? Can I give a check or make a threat? Does my opponent have any threats? What did the last move do? Beyond that it's primarily just practice.

    • @88mphDrBrown
      @88mphDrBrown 2 місяці тому +3

      No, it's markedly different. There's 3 main ways to spend time- calculating offensive tactics, calculating you're opponents offensive tactics, and just making sure you're not hanging anything. Sub 1400 games are usually just a question of who's going to blunder first, so it's practical advice.

  • @ilanpi
    @ilanpi 5 місяців тому +46

    If I recall Petrosian's biography, this blunder led him to reconsider his play and adopt the strategy of defending threats before his opponent was aware of them (as described by Fischer).

    • @Momus2024
      @Momus2024 5 місяців тому +4

      does he at least describe it coherently?

    • @ilanpi
      @ilanpi 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Momus2024 It wasn't an autobiography.

  • @mydevice2596
    @mydevice2596 5 місяців тому +58

    25:37 Maybe Petrosian was trying to play knight to i6, forking the king and queen.

    • @geo.j27
      @geo.j27 5 місяців тому +3

      We see a blunder he sees a tactic because he is playing 4d chess

    • @Smileater
      @Smileater 5 місяців тому

      Underrated comment

    • @IsaacBenevides
      @IsaacBenevides 3 місяці тому

      And that still loses a piece, damn

  • @SeddincY
    @SeddincY 5 місяців тому +20

    "I was blundering before you were born" . God i just love Ben.

  • @QuantumHistorian
    @QuantumHistorian 5 місяців тому +13

    There's something comforting in knowing that, just like I lay awake at night thinking about some awkward thing I said 15 years ago, Kramnik lies there cringing about the time he blundered mate in 1.

  • @ibazulic
    @ibazulic 5 місяців тому +21

    This is probably the most awesome video Ben ever did

    • @Momus2024
      @Momus2024 5 місяців тому

      keep telling yourself that is the reason you are 1200 rated

    • @ibazulic
      @ibazulic 5 місяців тому +5

      @@Momus2024 a) you don't know what my rating is, and b) please look up what sarcasm is. Thanks.

  • @ProxorGaming
    @ProxorGaming 5 місяців тому +7

    Exquisite lecture. Thank you, the sponsor and your wife.

  • @Steveross2851
    @Steveross2851 5 місяців тому +2

    In the Deep Fritz versus Vladimir Kramnik game, Ben Finegold says at 39:53 - 39:55 that he didn't know why Kramnik missed Qh7#. But I remember Kramnik's excuse. Kramnik explained that had the White knight been on g5 or f6 he would have seen Qh7# and prevented it but with the White knight on f8 it was on an unusual square for a knight to support a Qh7# threat so he missed it. Of course it's still extremely surprising that Kramnik missed it but now you know his excuse.

  • @Matthew-bu7fg
    @Matthew-bu7fg 5 місяців тому +5

    I'd seen a few of these blunders before but there were a few in here I'd never seen. The Petrosian blunder was absolutely mindblowing.
    Great lecture!

  • @88mphDrBrown
    @88mphDrBrown 5 місяців тому +4

    Steinitz vs Chigorin 36:21
    Ben says "I don't understand why he allowed Rxd5"
    If Rxd5, Nf4 forks the rooks winning an exchange. Maybe he was trying to provoke Rxd5.

    • @74ace468
      @74ace468 22 дні тому

      @@88mphDrBrown no because rook takes e7

    • @88mphDrBrown
      @88mphDrBrown 21 день тому

      @74ace468 and you're still forked, but it's worse. Rxd5, Nf4, Rxe7, Nxd5+, K move, Nxe7.

    • @74ace468
      @74ace468 21 день тому +1

      ⁠@@88mphDrBrown touché missed that nxd5 comes with check

  • @panache2521
    @panache2521 5 місяців тому +1

    This has to be one of my favorite videos you've ever done

  • @sasquatch2
    @sasquatch2 5 місяців тому +6

    3:21 I also know that if I'm facing someone named "Smith" or "Wilson" I'll probably be okay. If they have "villi" at the end of their last name (not only are they from Georgia), I'm probably going to have a rough time.

  • @EqSlay
    @EqSlay 5 місяців тому +3

    What a great lecture and topic!

  • @joelmcentire1
    @joelmcentire1 5 місяців тому +7

    Thanks for doing the video Ben. Good stuff

    • @bobbyfishstix1189
      @bobbyfishstix1189 5 місяців тому +1

      Great topic!
      Big shout out to Daisy!!

    • @joelmcentire1
      @joelmcentire1 5 місяців тому +2

      @@bobbyfishstix1189 thank you for the shout out.

  • @knightrider585
    @knightrider585 5 місяців тому +6

    I remember back when athletes were not banned from sports for supporting their own countries.

  • @ianpierson9935
    @ianpierson9935 5 місяців тому +1

    There is a great book "How to beat Bobby Fischer, his 61 losing games of chess". Some cracking blunders in that, including a simple miscalculation of a pawn run.

  • @facespaz
    @facespaz 5 місяців тому +4

    Great idea for a lecture, thanks Ben!

  • @tomasz9429
    @tomasz9429 5 місяців тому +20

    "Kasparov played Bd7..."
    And that's when Kramnik's villain arc has begun.

  • @MarkWiseTechno
    @MarkWiseTechno 5 місяців тому +8

    Peteosian's Ng5?? made me laugh so hard. He went from blundering his queen to extra double quadruple blundering his queen. 😂😂😂

  • @tobiass3540
    @tobiass3540 4 місяці тому +1

    biggest blunders by best players. exactly what I need to see after getting losing to a FM in an OTB tournament game :)

  • @Matthew-bu7fg
    @Matthew-bu7fg 5 місяців тому +7

    Very surprised Capablanca was mouse-slipping moves in 1929

    • @theodentherenewed4785
      @theodentherenewed4785 5 місяців тому +3

      Imagine having to use a mouse made in 1929. it must have been a dreadful experience.

  • @askthepizzaguy
    @askthepizzaguy 5 місяців тому +4

    In Kramnik's defense, his opponent was using an engine.
    Or were they? Is playing an engine the same as your opponent using an engine? Can an engine use an engine? Is water wet or does it just make other things wet? This is getting too philosophical for me.

  • @MarcoValli77
    @MarcoValli77 5 місяців тому +4

    I think Karpov went to win the tournament from which his blunder is taken; it was a 2-games matches format. Karpov won the second game, then beat Christiansen in the tie-breaks...and every other player he faced (too lazy to check, because I think I remember that well!)

  • @markkthought
    @markkthought 5 місяців тому +9

    watch this video to not feel so bad

  • @jonweman6128
    @jonweman6128 Місяць тому

    24:41 the explanation I've seen is that Bronstein had for a couple of moves just shuffled his N back and forth, so Petrosian automatically treated it as another non-move.

    • @lionizedjunkie
      @lionizedjunkie 11 днів тому

      I know it's not, but that sounds racist as hell 😂😂 Just say "knight" bud

  • @Joseph55220
    @Joseph55220 5 місяців тому +8

    Petrosian accidentally bumped the knight I believe. I believe he was reaching for the queen with a cigarette permanently affixed to his hand and hit the knight.

    • @bluefin.64
      @bluefin.64 5 місяців тому +4

      When touching the wrong piece is catastrophic, tournament players resign, and the higher the ranking of the players the more certain this is. The score has both Petrosian's move and his opponent's game ending one. In any case, after the game Petrosian said it was humorous that he lost his queen to Black's only active piece, which indicates it was a blunder rather than an accident.

  • @Steveross2851
    @Steveross2851 5 місяців тому

    Someone told me a story about a Botvinnik versus Bronstein game and despite Ben Finegold saying (at 24:35 of this video) that there was no time pressure, if memory serves, actually their game featured in this video had an extremely wild time scramble. Thus Bronstein was reduced to making knight moves to make time control on move 40 and he made 8 knight moves in a row, his last being ...Nxd6 capturing the hanging queen. Then according to what I was told (I only turned 3 in 1956 so I only heard about it years later) at the closing ceremony Bronstein took the queen off the cake being served, gave it to Petrosian, and told him "now we're even."

  • @Alexander_Kantel
    @Alexander_Kantel 5 місяців тому

    Love you and your lectures from Georgia ( Gladly not from Soviet Georgia but independent )

  • @ShoaibHassan-vo1ku
    @ShoaibHassan-vo1ku 5 місяців тому +2

    Coldest pun paired with sneakiest plot twist 45:07

  • @uttifrutti-i3d
    @uttifrutti-i3d 5 місяців тому +6

    Go ben!

  • @michaelf8221
    @michaelf8221 5 місяців тому +2

    Excellent topic. Gooooo daisy. But stay there.

  • @meandmynoodles76
    @meandmynoodles76 5 місяців тому +2

    you should do a full video of kramnik blunders

  • @Goryus
    @Goryus 5 місяців тому +5

    I hear deep fritz was using an engine

  • @flpsnk4848
    @flpsnk4848 5 місяців тому +9

    I am not Benjamin Finegold and I need to remind myself of that very often...

  • @peterschmidt-nielsen3577
    @peterschmidt-nielsen3577 5 місяців тому +1

    At 36:18 probably Chigorin was thinking that if Rxd5, then Nf4, Rxe7, Nxd5+, king somewhere, Nxe7.

    • @OsbornsConcise
      @OsbornsConcise 2 місяці тому +1

      Or rxd5 Nf4 Rxe7 Bxe7+ Kxe7 Nxd5+ , winning both rooks for a rook and a bishop

  • @AliceYobby
    @AliceYobby 5 місяців тому

    Man, that Petrosian blunder hurt me. I genuinely sat there for about 15 minutes with the video paused just admiring the strength of his position. And then the knight move is just the cherry on top. Distressing

  • @cassidydankochik3294
    @cassidydankochik3294 5 місяців тому +2

    "Usually you dont miss knight takes queen"

  • @joelcuerrier4833
    @joelcuerrier4833 5 місяців тому +2

    Make more good moves and less bad moves and your game will be more good and less bad.
    Wrote it down to remember.

  • @FrankBakulov
    @FrankBakulov 2 місяці тому

    19:20 as of now Karjakin is the last who won a game in WC match against Karlsen

  • @itze_
    @itze_ 5 місяців тому

    New lecture!

  • @qazzaqstan
    @qazzaqstan 5 місяців тому +1

    Was expecting Fischer Spassky game 1 because I know that game and didn't know any of these other ones.

    • @baoboumusic
      @baoboumusic 5 місяців тому

      Indeed. I was also expecting Kasparov Karpov 1985 (game 11 where Karpov played the wrong rook to d8). I love the selection, most are unfamiliar to me, few obvious choices here!

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 5 місяців тому +1

      He probably skipped over that one because it's so famous.

    • @baoboumusic
      @baoboumusic 5 місяців тому

      @@worsethanjoerogan8061 After seeing the full video: he skipped it because it wasn't on the level of a 1-2 move mate or losing a queen.

  • @serrie85
    @serrie85 5 місяців тому

    Kramnik wasn't the only one missing that mate against Deep Fritz. I hope I remember correctly, but I think the whole commentary team missed it too. And it wasn't a weak team, some IM's , GM's, think even Anand was there.

  • @dco1019
    @dco1019 5 місяців тому +1

    For the Magnus blunder, I thought you could have had the classical game Giri-Carlsen from the 2011 Tata Steel tournament. I seemingly remember Giri (then 16 years old) saying he blundered mate. But on further review of that game, it doesn't satisfy the requirement for it to be a blunder since I would need to see that it's a blunder, and I probably wouldn't spot it. Also magnus was getting outplayed already and then made the big mistake. Oh how times have changed huh.. pretty cool game to see though

  • @axerecords
    @axerecords 5 місяців тому +1

    Hello, mr. Ben. Thank you for actually starting this series. I guess you don't have dementiia after all. How do I subscribe again?

  • @mypony891
    @mypony891 5 місяців тому

    Kinda surprised you didn't mention the blunder Ding made when playing against Carlson recently.

  • @IsaacBenevides
    @IsaacBenevides 3 місяці тому

    36:04 after the whole spiel about forgetting about a threat, undefending h2, I was expecting Nf4, which at least forks the rook and bishop and defends d5. Bb4 is way worse.

  • @martin-eden
    @martin-eden 5 місяців тому +1

    Hello Ben. I am very grateful to you for what you do and for the way you do it, and I want to clarify that first of all I do not mean chess, but your attitude towards others, especially children. I wish you and your family all the best

  • @tomer2724
    @tomer2724 5 місяців тому

    It wasn't a similar mate in the creator tournament, it was the same exact mate! The throbbing mate

  • @klatchabobby
    @klatchabobby 5 місяців тому

    I actually made a 3D animated short film about the 1892 game. i'd forgotten the video but seeing the position again I'd remembered this was the game in the video

  • @muhammedsinanemlik6981
    @muhammedsinanemlik6981 5 місяців тому

    Kramnik's parents made a big blunder.

  • @brekinat0r
    @brekinat0r 5 місяців тому +1

    Notice that many of these blunders are due to not remembering how the knight moves.

  • @screbz6872
    @screbz6872 5 місяців тому +1

    What about Magnus-Ding in Norway chess ?

  • @mariuszpudzianowski8400
    @mariuszpudzianowski8400 5 місяців тому

    Was it MVL that blunder mate in 1 against Duda in the opening? That was funny as he was just following theory and ignoring threats.

  • @88mphDrBrown
    @88mphDrBrown 5 місяців тому

    I'm surprised you didn't include Fischer or Nepo's trapping their own bishop in the WC.

  • @TommyGoguen
    @TommyGoguen 5 місяців тому

    To answer your question Ben, I would prefer to lose very late in the game after hours of playing. I feel like there would be more respect in someone fighting hard for so long.

  • @lukacalov1988
    @lukacalov1988 5 місяців тому

    Kramnik: "Deep Fritz was using an engine"

  • @EugenIustin
    @EugenIustin 5 місяців тому

    the "GM's don't get to pay their rent if they blunder in a game" is such an American way to be looking at things.

  • @xx44xx67
    @xx44xx67 5 місяців тому

    Gothamchess claims in one of his vids, that petrosian was extremly bored cause Bronstein was mooving slow and bad, so he got up everytime he made his moove to then come back and again moove quickly. So he made a quick moove, realized the blunder and gave up.

  • @schontasm
    @schontasm 4 місяці тому

    Isnt karjakins blunder x10 weird as in fact a1a3 pins the knight and wins for B. Am I missing something ?

  • @stephenh9483
    @stephenh9483 5 місяців тому

    love this, awesome

  • @kenmawer2588
    @kenmawer2588 4 місяці тому

    Before the Botez Gambit, there was the Petrosian Gambit.

  • @tolkienfan1972
    @tolkienfan1972 5 місяців тому +2

    Huh, my queen's attacked by a knight. I know, I'll undefend it

  • @raymond5597
    @raymond5597 5 місяців тому

    This dude is unintentionally funny

  • @soggycardboardbox
    @soggycardboardbox 5 місяців тому

    I could hear Thumbnail Ben saying "Truth Hurts".

  • @mikkelhansen3714
    @mikkelhansen3714 5 місяців тому

    Lol i did the exact same thing as Ganguly hanging mate in one like that in a coordinated classical game against a WFM a week ago :/

  • @LizaFan
    @LizaFan 5 місяців тому

    0:43 and: everybody has those days

  • @Aploplex
    @Aploplex 5 місяців тому

    what happened to the live lectures with the kids lol

  • @rahulalbussrk
    @rahulalbussrk 4 місяці тому

    Kramnik: Let's do the procedure now...

  • @FCarraro1
    @FCarraro1 5 місяців тому

    I think Ding's mate in 2 against Carlsen should have made the cut if the video is recent enough.

  • @pelicans456
    @pelicans456 5 місяців тому

    Man even I could see the first Kramnik blunder

    • @pelicans456
      @pelicans456 5 місяців тому

      I Petrosian played Ng5 on me like that with his queen hanging I would absolutely assume he was about to pull some Tal shit on me and I'd panic-resign

  • @crdrost
    @crdrost 5 місяців тому

    Firouzja was jealous that he wasn't in this video and just handed us the spectacular blunder against Fabi,
    1. c4 c6 2. Nf3 d5
    3. g3 Bg4 4. Ne5 Bf5 5. Qb3 Qb6 6. cxd5 Qxb3 7. axb3 Be4?! 8. dxc6 Bxh1?? 9. Rxa7 1-0
    The resignation because if black plays Rxa7 then c7! and white will make another queen; or else white will play Rxa8 in short order and have compensation for the earlier Bxh1.

  • @smort123
    @smort123 5 місяців тому +1

    Go new cam!

  • @darkalman
    @darkalman 5 місяців тому +5

    Petrosion plays the Botez gambit before she was born

  • @mmmu9638
    @mmmu9638 5 місяців тому +2

    My whole life is a blunder, it is my identity

  • @ilanpi
    @ilanpi 5 місяців тому

    Shirazi Wing Gambit.

  • @ncwadv1922
    @ncwadv1922 5 місяців тому

    21:20 The answer is fries.

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu 2 місяці тому

    Karpov lost to Christiansen at Hoogovens. It was a knockout event and Karpov won the mini-match against Christiansen anyway.

  • @JimmyDaGent796
    @JimmyDaGent796 5 місяців тому

    The Botez Gambit was stolen from Iron Tigran.

  • @Grimreapercrow
    @Grimreapercrow 5 місяців тому

    Could some of these matches had been fixed? Cuase its unbelievable that a grandmaster would blunder their queens like this lol. Considering that theze guys can see 15 moves ahead, right?

  • @davidsinclair7439
    @davidsinclair7439 5 місяців тому +1

    The topic and sponsor dedication make me wonder whether Daisy was a blunder.

  • @andrew_owens7680
    @andrew_owens7680 5 місяців тому

    Kasparov blundered? Let's do the procedure.

  • @Vedioviswritingservice
    @Vedioviswritingservice 5 місяців тому

    Peter Heine Nielsen is well-known for all the wrong reasons.

  • @timothyoreilly6571
    @timothyoreilly6571 5 місяців тому

    You did not forget about the same-ish joke game.

  • @Djangotot
    @Djangotot 5 місяців тому

    Always repeat

  • @Nutslap
    @Nutslap 5 місяців тому

    All hail Sir Gay Car Jackin

  • @robbarcen3509
    @robbarcen3509 5 місяців тому

    Got it blunder less...

  • @jasonparker6138
    @jasonparker6138 5 місяців тому

    Frankly, delicious

  • @riverajavieri
    @riverajavieri 5 місяців тому

    🤭

  • @noahsmith3219
    @noahsmith3219 5 місяців тому

    What is stuck in Ben’s teeth?

  • @ilet3049
    @ilet3049 5 місяців тому

    Reminds me of the football players who get paid 250k a week and can't even shoot at the goal. Yes, it's football and not soccer.

  • @giacomodibiase9464
    @giacomodibiase9464 5 місяців тому

    always recycle

  • @ljubisaknezevic9040
    @ljubisaknezevic9040 5 місяців тому

    Ugh the chewing gum

  • @stephenh9483
    @stephenh9483 5 місяців тому

    "so when you are a professional chess player, it is NOT a good feeling when you hang your queen and lose" LOLOOL

  • @Djangotot
    @Djangotot 5 місяців тому +1

    Always repeat