Dynon does not charge for VFR charts. Are you updating IFR charts? If not flying IFR you don't need that. The GPS upgrade software never heard of that. But good luck fly safe.
Good info. Great tip on IFR flying and equipment. I purchased mine as a VFR platform KNOWING that I'd likely convert it to IFR later. I was able to get away with it because the purchase price was right for a VFR plane. Meaning, (all other plane features being equal) i bought it for around $15k less than a comparably equipped IFR plane. It was easier to jump on it moneywise for now but that expense IS coming. Meanwhile I fly the hell out of it and stay away from clouds.
Nice airplane, I think its perfect for commuting to work. I'm agreeing with other peoples comments, in which certified will cost you a lot more to maintain. The tools that you had to purchase are certainly much cheaper that paying a AMO to do the maintenance for you. Also I thing the title of your video should be changed. Because the costs that you mentioned as "unplanned", such as the tire, the hanger, the tools, the software, etc. , are all well known costs of aircraft ownership. So this only means that you got into ownership without doing your research. But then again maybe that is the point of the video to begin with. Anyways, glad to hear that your loving the Kingair job, and doing what you love in life. That's very inportant, and great that you are setting a positive example for other people. Your commute sound like great time/ experience building. Keep up the good work!
Love the video man. Had to subscribe immediately. I'm a low time commercial pilot looking for a job and also thinking of buying an airplane. If you have any job conne tions please please let me know. Thanks and respect.
The RV 6A is pretty light compared to a Cessna 172. The power to weight ratio takes a little getting used to. The RV6A is going to be faster, and your takeoff roll is definitely shorter. So having speed discipline is important on final to avoid excessive float while in ground effect. Flying with stick and rudder made my cross wing landings effortless. On a scale of one through 10, with 10 being the hardest to transition. I would rate going from a 172 to a RV6A a 3.
Did you build it or buy it already built? Buying an already built experimental is like owning a certified. You legally are limited to the maintenance you can do. It cost me $30k to upgrade my avionics (172N). That's for a basic IFR upgrade. A&P/IA install labor eats a large portion of that. RV-8 build is in my future. You can do all the maintenance if you build it.
if operating an experimental airplane is causing you heartburn, dont even think about certifieds my man. i cannot wait until i no longer have a need for the backseat and can get a 2 seater RV. in a way you screwed yourself by going experimental first. i know you wish you had a backseat, which the experimental market has largely ignored due to the relative lower acquisition costs of certified 4 seaters. But thats the case for a reason, and that reason is that unless you are an a/p, youre gonna pay thru the nose for every part and legal signoff, indignity you dont have to deal with when operating under experimental rules. To be fair, GPS hardware costs are generally identical because the faa doesnt make a distinction on that tso between certified and experimental, the way they allow in the case of flight instruments. which i find incredibly ironic if the motivation behind certified costs for flight instruments is safe guarding the lives of paying customers, but i digress before they get any ideas lol. ive been in this ownership game for a dozen years now, and theres no way id go certified over experimental knowing what i know as result of that experience. im absolutely fatigued from the certified rules bullshit and added costs they impose. So i sincerely cannot relate to experimental owners complaining about cost. im just simply a captive audience because i dont want to be a dick and leave my family out my traveling hobby, and because as you said, rv10s are priced ridiculously high. i can pay 150k for an airplane, i just refuse to as a matter of principle. thats housing money in my life, not toy money.
Wasn’t complaining about cost lol, just keeping others realistically informed. My costs have been very affordable and minimal compared to what others can and have experienced. Don’t get me wrong, I still love the RV! Good to hear your perspective!
You don’t have to be a gearhead. Really it’s used for simple maintenance such as oil changes which will save you money if you do it yourself. Oil changes ever 25 hours. What I did was I had a certified AP mechanic do an oil change with me several times before I did any on my own.
It can widely depend on where you are located.In big cities it is going to be more expensive. The smaller airports in more rural areas will be cheaper. Price will also vary greatly if you are looking for a hanger versus a covered area with no door, or tiedown only where the plane gets no protection from the sun or elements.
Man, I have to tell you...out here in California, things are different. I am glad to have come across your video! Wish Kansas wasn't so far away or I would come fly with ya! But I am looking to purchase my first aircraft. I am just researching which one I would like to buy. I am doing the whole Certified Vs. Non- Certified. I like the fact that the Non-Certified I can work on myself because I was a mechanic for many years. But I also want something with a little bit of baggage space (50Lbs or less). How does this RV work for you with traveling for pleasure? I am also looking at RV4 and RV9 but RV4 has less storage space for sure.
For the wife and I, space is everything. The more cargo space the better! For one person I say it holds enough to get you around for several days of cross country.
@@ChuckKCjust paid the same and got one! Haven’t sat in it yet. It’s in Illinois and going out this weekend. Hopefully I fit in it. 6’4” 240. It has the “almost 14” mod.
This is a very educational video on new RV ownership. Hope to see more in the future too !!!
Thanks Roger
Nice airplane!! RV’s are the best value out there for speed and versatility. I was in on the build of. 7A. Good luck on your flying career!!
Dynon does not charge for VFR charts. Are you updating IFR charts? If not flying IFR you don't need that. The GPS upgrade software never heard of that. But good luck fly safe.
I really like what you've done with your panel. Way Cool!
Good info. Great tip on IFR flying and equipment. I purchased mine as a VFR platform KNOWING that I'd likely convert it to IFR later. I was able to get away with it because the purchase price was right for a VFR plane. Meaning, (all other plane features being equal) i bought it for around $15k less than a comparably equipped IFR plane. It was easier to jump on it moneywise for now but that expense IS coming. Meanwhile I fly the hell out of it and stay away from clouds.
Nice not bad at all!
Kits are the best way to own, as I am sure you are discovering. For example, the IFR subscription for my Bonanza’s GPS is nearly $500 / yr
Quite a difference in price
Funny fireman's pole....thanks for info
Nice airplane, I think its perfect for commuting to work. I'm agreeing with other peoples comments, in which certified will cost you a lot more to maintain. The tools that you had to purchase are certainly much cheaper that paying a AMO to do the maintenance for you. Also I thing the title of your video should be changed. Because the costs that you mentioned as "unplanned", such as the tire, the hanger, the tools, the software, etc. , are all well known costs of aircraft ownership. So this only means that you got into ownership without doing your research. But then again maybe that is the point of the video to begin with. Anyways, glad to hear that your loving the Kingair job, and doing what you love in life. That's very inportant, and great that you are setting a positive example for other people. Your commute sound like great time/ experience building. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing man! I really want to build one of these so thanks for everything you share!
I own and fly an RV6A and absolutely love flying it. Cruises at average 140Kts.
I've heard they do closer to 165. What motor do you have in it?
@@quinnjim Hi realistically they do 140 to 160 knots cruise but it depends on altitude engine settings etc. my engine is a Lycoming IO360
O-360
Love the video man. Had to subscribe immediately. I'm a low time commercial pilot looking for a job and also thinking of buying an airplane. If you have any job conne tions please please let me know. Thanks and respect.
Jerome S I actually do. Would you be willing to relocate for a few months? Send me a message on FB.
Looking back on this and hearing an RV10 is 150k!!! Wowzer, now it's 300k+, that being said I'm sure your bird is 100k now too!
love the vids keep it up!
Chuck ....How's the RV-6A? How would you describe the transition from a C172?
The RV 6A is pretty light compared to a Cessna 172. The power to weight ratio takes a little getting used to. The RV6A is going to be faster, and your takeoff roll is definitely shorter.
So having speed discipline is important on final to avoid excessive float while in ground effect. Flying with stick and rudder made my cross wing landings effortless. On a scale of one through 10, with 10 being the hardest to transition. I would rate going from a 172 to a RV6A a 3.
@@ChuckKC that’s a good response. Trying to find someone in Florida to get some transition time in. Been looking in the ads.
Did you build it or buy it already built?
Buying an already built experimental is like owning a certified. You legally are limited to the maintenance you can do.
It cost me $30k to upgrade my avionics (172N). That's for a basic IFR upgrade. A&P/IA install labor eats a large portion of that.
RV-8 build is in my future. You can do all the maintenance if you build it.
If you didn't build it, the only restriction is you can't do the annual inspection. Need an A&P (IA not necessary) for that
Who do you use for insurance? And who do you use for the loan?
Kimmel Insurance gave me the best quote out of AOPA and Avemco. For the loan, I would recommend NAFCO out of Tampa, FL.
if operating an experimental airplane is causing you heartburn, dont even think about certifieds my man. i cannot wait until i no longer have a need for the backseat and can get a 2 seater RV. in a way you screwed yourself by going experimental first. i know you wish you had a backseat, which the experimental market has largely ignored due to the relative lower acquisition costs of certified 4 seaters. But thats the case for a reason, and that reason is that unless you are an a/p, youre gonna pay thru the nose for every part and legal signoff, indignity you dont have to deal with when operating under experimental rules. To be fair, GPS hardware costs are generally identical because the faa doesnt make a distinction on that tso between certified and experimental, the way they allow in the case of flight instruments. which i find incredibly ironic if the motivation behind certified costs for flight instruments is safe guarding the lives of paying customers, but i digress before they get any ideas lol.
ive been in this ownership game for a dozen years now, and theres no way id go certified over experimental knowing what i know as result of that experience. im absolutely fatigued from the certified rules bullshit and added costs they impose. So i sincerely cannot relate to experimental owners complaining about cost. im just simply a captive audience because i dont want to be a dick and leave my family out my traveling hobby, and because as you said, rv10s are priced ridiculously high. i can pay 150k for an airplane, i just refuse to as a matter of principle. thats housing money in my life, not toy money.
Wasn’t complaining about cost lol, just keeping others realistically informed. My costs have been very affordable and minimal compared to what others can and have experienced. Don’t get me wrong, I still love the RV! Good to hear your perspective!
bruh, we gotta meet up i'm down in Tulsa!
Awesome bro
Flying close to my home in the first few shots.
What engine do you have? Check to see if you can run mogas!
180HP, can run 91 octane!
How often do you have to work on it using those tools? I’m not a gear head.
You don’t have to be a gearhead. Really it’s used for simple maintenance such as oil changes which will save you money if you do it yourself. Oil changes ever 25 hours.
What I did was I had a certified AP mechanic do an oil change with me several times before I did any on my own.
What happened with the mooney
Just curious, what did you do with the Cessna? I dig the channel.
Thanks! The Cessna was a club plane, it’s still in KC
do you still fly this plane, and make videos
Hey Chuck my husband and I are looking for a 6a. What motor do you have?
O-360 (180HP)
Good luck in your search!
Ty. What is your empty weight?
1020
Did you do the pre buy yourself ?
Got it from a 3rd party. Always do a 3rd party prebuy and save yourself thousands in the future.
@@ChuckKC nice I want one have you done aerobatics yet?
@@daman737 No, I have not. On the bucket list one day to do aerobatics.
The worst fuel burn I ever had in my 6A was 7.9 gph and my normal x country rate was 6.5 gph. Get up high, slow down a bit and lean lean lean.
That was a tasty whine not enough chesse though! What the Funk!
Do you still have this airplane?
Since I have sold it, due to moving for a pilot job.
Nothing kills aeronautical dreams like $$$.
How much does hanger cost run?
It can widely depend on where you are located.In big cities it is going to be more expensive. The smaller airports in more rural areas will be cheaper. Price will also vary greatly if you are looking for a hanger versus a covered area with no door, or tiedown only where the plane gets no protection from the sun or elements.
I see an RV10 in your future 😜✈️
Nice video
Man, I have to tell you...out here in California, things are different. I am glad to have come across your video! Wish Kansas wasn't so far away or I would come fly with ya! But I am looking to purchase my first aircraft. I am just researching which one I would like to buy. I am doing the whole Certified Vs. Non- Certified. I like the fact that the Non-Certified I can work on myself because I was a mechanic for many years. But I also want something with a little bit of baggage space (50Lbs or less). How does this RV work for you with traveling for pleasure? I am also looking at RV4 and RV9 but RV4 has less storage space for sure.
For the wife and I, space is everything. The more cargo space the better! For one person I say it holds enough to get you around for several days of cross country.
Chuck_KC that’s awesome! I take my last statement about what I was looking and and retract it...I am now very interested in the RV8 😍 has all I need 😄
What did you pay for it?
60k
@@ChuckKCjust paid the same and got one! Haven’t sat in it yet. It’s in Illinois and going out this weekend. Hopefully I fit in it. 6’4” 240. It has the “almost 14” mod.
Do you have Instagram?
Chuck_kc1
I just had to say the plain that you have is not a rv6a its just a rv6
Noah Nater091 The RV-6 is the tail wheel version. The -A version strictly means tricycle gear with the front wheel. That is the only difference.
Plane, not plain