Who is Better For The Constant? Charlie or Alter?

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @maxfecteau
    @maxfecteau Місяць тому +211

    I hope wagstaff finds a way to annoy both factions enough to force them to team up against him

    • @echo117
      @echo117 Місяць тому +31

      oh that would be hillarious and I would so want to take part in it

    • @crampedcasket3887
      @crampedcasket3887 Місяць тому +22

      Truly the best world that the constant can be.

    • @thatterrariaguidenpc8054
      @thatterrariaguidenpc8054 18 днів тому +4

      thats honestly the most dont starve way you could end this lol

    • @saamjaza1742
      @saamjaza1742 10 днів тому +3

      I can see it now...Alter has Charlie cornered, the suvivors squeezed between the two of them...and then it stops. Alter recognizes there is a far greater threat to the Constant. One Charlie recognizes all too well.

  • @vondoandantin6573
    @vondoandantin6573 Місяць тому +218

    Balance is best. Both powers have no restraint on their hunger, so either way; the constant returns to dust.

  • @not_umbre
    @not_umbre Місяць тому +131

    Fun fact: Something i noticed during my fight with possesed varg, the lunar flames almost instantly kill the hounds it summons, However it doesn't deal any damage to horror hounds
    It is intentionally putting them to rest.

    • @polarlotus
      @polarlotus  Місяць тому +22

      Very interesting 🤔 i mean thats so specific that it has to be left on purpose (unless its due to planar stuff lol)

  • @gabrielpelegrini6135
    @gabrielpelegrini6135 Місяць тому +119

    The lunar parallel to charlie is wagstaff, not Alter. Alter is one of "Them" much like the Tenebrau (the name has been revealed in the new stage play).
    Charlie and Wagstaff are both trying to harness power of an eldrich being and in the process making them more powerful
    Charlie/Metheus is the shadowy enabler of Tenebrau
    Wagstaff is the lunatic enabler of Alter

    • @colbyoravits6743
      @colbyoravits6743 Місяць тому +23

      Yeah one big hole in this video is that Tenebrau was left out, safe to say that Charlie is just another pawn of “Them”

    • @SalahMohamed-v5f
      @SalahMohamed-v5f 15 днів тому +4

      "lunatic" like
      Like
      Like...
      "Luna"
      "Lunar"
      Moon?

    • @MegaHuntress
      @MegaHuntress 9 днів тому +1

      @SalahMohamed-v5f yes

    • @SalahMohamed-v5f
      @SalahMohamed-v5f 9 днів тому +1

      @@MegaHuntress i know that's where the word comes from, but it's still funny

  • @demihau
    @demihau Місяць тому +58

    alter be like:
    ⚠️ TRADE OFFER ⚠️
    i recieve: power over constant
    you recieve: free charlie and make her a playable character

    • @Grayson-tk5hn
      @Grayson-tk5hn Місяць тому +4

      seems like a good trade

    • @s.m.2523
      @s.m.2523 22 дні тому +5

      The problem with a playable Charlie would be, what would be her schtick, flavor and gameplay wise ?
      - Affinity with the shadows, nightmare fuel and insanity mecanics ?
      - Insight from time as a former nightmare ruler ?
      - Talent as a former performing magician ?
      ... Oh hi Maxwell, I din't notice you sulking in the corner, what with, y'know, having all of those traits already...
      Not saying it's impossible to make a playable Charlie work, jsut that it would require quite a bit of creativity for Klei to make her stand as her own, y'know ?

    • @demihau
      @demihau 22 дні тому +4

      @ not quite what i meant, she was a person on her own before she became a shadow monster. we can see it in maxwell cinematic and comics. if alter frees her, that automatically mean she no longer has any power over shadows, she’s just a regular human like she was before.

  • @AZ-bc7wd
    @AZ-bc7wd Місяць тому +69

    The dst politics go crazy im personally voting for the grue

  • @FIreWolf3004
    @FIreWolf3004 Місяць тому +21

    Another awesome vid
    THe lore of DST is so good, always enjoy the theories

  • @Herra_K
    @Herra_K 22 дні тому +9

    1:48 ah yes, because thats totally how war works.

    • @KaikeCGR
      @KaikeCGR 22 дні тому +2

      WWI flash backs

    • @projectkepleren
      @projectkepleren 21 день тому +1

      Sort of? depending on the war in cna be argued there's the good and bad guys

    • @imasocialbutterflful
      @imasocialbutterflful 11 днів тому +1

      @@projectkeplerentheres the bad guys and the slightly better bad guys

    • @sofiadias7352
      @sofiadias7352 10 днів тому

      right, i got whiplash hearing that, guess i did not study enough, did not know the world was black and white like that

  • @mustard7306
    @mustard7306 Місяць тому +68

    "Meth-use"
    No, it's Metheus. As in, Prometheus, who the name comes from.

    • @AZ-bc7wd
      @AZ-bc7wd Місяць тому +33

      "Walter we need to cook walter"

    • @polarlotus
      @polarlotus  Місяць тому +30

      I see, thanks for clarifying pronunciation isn't my strong suit lol

    • @attackeh
      @attackeh 15 днів тому +1

      @@polarlotus its greek so its not your fault

  • @kinnykin1305
    @kinnykin1305 Місяць тому +14

    Sure wormwood is by far the only survivor that is locked to alter skilltree but has sick shadow armor appearance, and to be honest it makes sense

  • @AZ-bc7wd
    @AZ-bc7wd Місяць тому +24

    What if i love using glass cutters but also just can't get enough of night suits i have to CHOOSE WHICH ONE I WANT?

  • @LongNguyen-xt1hx
    @LongNguyen-xt1hx Місяць тому +29

    We all know merm are true rulers of the constant

  • @elbowedtoast52
    @elbowedtoast52 Місяць тому +7

    hamlet isnt floating, its just set upon really, really high plateaus

  • @xbox1813
    @xbox1813 Місяць тому +7

    btw, in you forgot to mention how gems could lose their power when altar dies, as youve said in the gems lore video

    • @polarlotus
      @polarlotus  Місяць тому +4

      @@xbox1813 true! But to be fair we don’t know exactly how gems work as that was also just a theory

    • @xbox1813
      @xbox1813 Місяць тому +1

      @polarlotus true, but just thought it might be worth mentioning

  • @MaxwellDST
    @MaxwellDST Місяць тому +37

    me im the best

  • @ShatteredHue
    @ShatteredHue Місяць тому +7

    15:36 starlo and I dancing in the corner

  • @imjustanoob.
    @imjustanoob. Місяць тому +5

    12:59 Can't believe I laughed at myself because of this clip.

  • @lks19
    @lks19 Місяць тому +9

    In the shadows we trust.

  • @MonochromaticPrism
    @MonochromaticPrism 23 дні тому +2

    Have you ever heard of the concept of leading your aim? Might help you out a bit with actually landing attacks with such a large delay.

  • @dr_spwewps
    @dr_spwewps Місяць тому +25

    rher vs the god of the depths

  • @justordinaryguy8407
    @justordinaryguy8407 Місяць тому +1

    Ngl if Alter would show me some mercy and won't try to turn me into an body horror monster i would do anything in my power to help THEM

  • @Korthozh
    @Korthozh Місяць тому +13

    even if charlie where defeated by alter not much would changue anyways, them or that thing behind the portal (the gate way in the atrium) is still there and we didnt even see what they are exactly, the shadow creatures as far as i know are just the people from the ruins who got turn into that by nightmare fuel, it probably would decrease the influence of the shadows in the constant, however all nigthmare fuel related stuff would simply continue to exist

    • @polarlotus
      @polarlotus  Місяць тому +1

      this may be true, we don't exactly know what would happen if the nightmare throne was destroyed, it could be one big fluke!

  • @sanjeevsinghrajput5593
    @sanjeevsinghrajput5593 Місяць тому +1

    The moon turns creatures into monsters??
    Welcome back Fear and Hunger 2: Termina

  • @naki915
    @naki915 Місяць тому +7

    It would be funny if Klei made DST basicaly among us, where Worwmoods secretly had to troll/kill shadow aligned survivors. But only true Wormwood mains know...

  • @Dalgamor_is_fake
    @Dalgamor_is_fake Місяць тому +1

    My dream scenario
    Charlie will get betrayed by shadows and then she with surivivors would fight them, and of course, win.
    Wagstaff with survivors would fight agaisnt Alter, and of course, win.
    Then Webber will get cured, and a wormwood with WX would finally go away.
    Charlie and Maxwell would marry.
    And survivors would inhabit all 3 territories of RoG hamlet and shipwreck. Or start trevelling, a perfect scenarion to start NewHome

  • @artmura
    @artmura Місяць тому +1

    What video was used at background? Just want to know what mod adds back old ocean

  • @SaraSupernovaParasol-te7ln
    @SaraSupernovaParasol-te7ln 16 днів тому

    So THATS what eggman was doing, ohhhh

  • @Gatorboy5678
    @Gatorboy5678 Місяць тому +4

    1:48 I don’t think just cause there’s a war means there’s a bad side and a good side.

  • @محمدمرادیفراهانی
    @محمدمرادیفراهانی Місяць тому +2

    where did u get the footage in the background?

    • @polarlotus
      @polarlotus  Місяць тому +3

      It's a mod called deathmatch! I occasionally play it on stream with viewers :)

  • @tiqosc1809
    @tiqosc1809 Місяць тому +5

    third ending, merm wins

  • @drq_seed
    @drq_seed Місяць тому

    I do think u are right about Charlie being fused with Methuse

  • @Andrew5158
    @Andrew5158 Місяць тому

    But the deconstruction staff requires nightmare fuel to craft.

  • @awesomecrea3545
    @awesomecrea3545 Місяць тому

    The power of THE MOON.

  • @NancyS-h1s
    @NancyS-h1s 23 дні тому

    POLARLOTUS. GIVE ME A CHARLIE LORE VIDEO AND MY LIFE IS YOOOUUURRRSSS

  • @Alexander_Snow
    @Alexander_Snow Місяць тому +3

    Maxwell gaming is going to win.

  • @cursedhawkins1305
    @cursedhawkins1305 24 дні тому

    So, I'm just going to assume that Wilson being bound to the throne at the end of the single player aspect of Don't Starve just isn't factored in here at all, I can't be the only person that recalls that before Don't Starve Together was even released.

    • @GP22855
      @GP22855 20 днів тому

      He was released by Charlie though

    • @cursedhawkins1305
      @cursedhawkins1305 20 днів тому

      @@GP22855 When did that happen? As far as I know the "story" of DST isn't that connected to DS.

    • @MapleSDC
      @MapleSDC 11 днів тому

      ​@@cursedhawkins1305its shown in the new reign video from Klei

  • @kocsisvirag1561
    @kocsisvirag1561 Місяць тому

    Moon?
    Moon i think is a catalist, like the mana orb of a magic staff, just look at blood moon in Hamlet.
    It conjures shadows.

  • @freybear8457
    @freybear8457 Місяць тому +4

    Metheus is pronounced “mee-thee-us”

    • @drq_seed
      @drq_seed Місяць тому

      MethUse is better

  • @freddyfazbear2408
    @freddyfazbear2408 Місяць тому +2

    I got the likes off 343 so now it won't die like halo

    • @polarlotus
      @polarlotus  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you freddy fazbear 🫡

  • @Eternal_Solstice
    @Eternal_Solstice 10 днів тому

    2:08 ancients??? from rain world???

  • @robertcrabtree1008
    @robertcrabtree1008 Місяць тому +1

    its MEH-they-OOS

  • @graycatsaderow
    @graycatsaderow Місяць тому +5

    Alter is clearly the right side
    Alter doesnt make anyone suffer, or brings anyone into the constant
    Alter doesnt inherently do anything bad to survivors by himself, the only thing he did is sending celestial champion to survivors
    Alter doesnt convert anything himself, most likely its just the properties of the moon changing things, and only weird rift gestalts actually take things over.
    Alter's intentions arent really clear, but he doesnt seem hostile.
    Also consider that lunar things only convert either dead or not really alive things into lunar variants, so maybe he is actually trying to help, just not only the survivors
    (Also alter doesnt kill anyone just because they are in the dark or light,unlike charlie. )

    • @dragonx23123
      @dragonx23123 Місяць тому +1

      further proof that the alter is the right side: 0:30

    • @AZ-bc7wd
      @AZ-bc7wd Місяць тому +6

      Alter meatrider

    • @graycatsaderow
      @graycatsaderow Місяць тому

      ​@@AZ-bc7wd charlie glazer

    • @AeyakS
      @AeyakS Місяць тому +1

      You know, the exact same thing can be said about Tenebrau. "They" are incomprehensible. Why They do anything is pretty much a mystery, and whether their actions are simply motivated by nature or by an actual altruistic/sadistic personality is not known to the survivors.
      The real question boils down to whether you trust Wagstaff or Charlie more, as they are the two that are enabling both Alter and Tenebrau to become more destructive and more involved. In fact, you probably shouldn't trust either of them, as they are each literally causing the world to unravel as rifts tear holes in reality.

    • @graycatsaderow
      @graycatsaderow Місяць тому

      @@AeyakS yeah but unlike alter, shadows actually directly harm you a lot

  • @Conservativebean
    @Conservativebean Місяць тому

    Praise Alter!

  • @oweeb5909
    @oweeb5909 Місяць тому

    Shadow because Charlie is my wife

  • @bar_jumper1312
    @bar_jumper1312 Місяць тому

    Mashalla eigentlich wollt ich auch kaufen, leider nur ich haben 1 Gopnik

  • @grapeman807
    @grapeman807 Місяць тому +1

    political debates be like

  • @ednakuipers6709
    @ednakuipers6709 Місяць тому +1

    196th!

  • @TypicalLuffy
    @TypicalLuffy Місяць тому

    Dst politics

  • @unbearablysmug2437
    @unbearablysmug2437 Місяць тому +1

    Really, during election week?

  • @donoxx7615
    @donoxx7615 Місяць тому +4

    OWO

    • @AZ-bc7wd
      @AZ-bc7wd Місяць тому +3

      Ew a furry crawl back into the mud you came from (jk)

    • @donoxx7615
      @donoxx7615 Місяць тому +3

      @@AZ-bc7wd ok if you do it first