That prop is toast! I think it’s the weight you have in the boat. Everything on the motor sounds fine. Watching you figure it out is fun! Take care of that sciatica!
Most prop repair shops can press out that hub and press a new rubber one in. They just hold with friction and once that rubber gets old and hard they let go.
i did the same thing with my most favorite motor, a 30hp 1988 Evinrude. I said to myself, "I guess I'd best check my gear lube, although I KNOW it is going to be just fine." It was low, black and smelled. At least there was no water in it. I was ashamed of myself for letting that happen......... Fortunately, no harm done. Glad you confirmed the hub is slipping. Check that one off your list.
I’ve had pretty good luck using super glue on the hub as long as it’s not wobbly on the bushing. I take 4-6 small. finish nails and clip some vise grips on each one and use a generous amount of glue on the point where the rubber meets the hub and then the prop and push them down in the gap quickly before it’s sets up. I have one that has lasted for years. Of course the hub is meant to spin out to prevent damage to the gear case but a poor man can t keep buying props every season. Real life saga BABY !!
Poor guy. I feel sorry for you driving yourself nuts over the speed difference. I thought I had a spun prop once and an old outboard guy told me to make a mark on the rubber and one next to it on the metal part of the prop. Turned out it was weight in the front of the boat had my prop in an air pocket behind the he boat at high speed Good luck buddy.
I knew that sucker had a spun hub! So I guess you’ll be trying some different prop choices in future episodes? That motor is sweet. When you have it running at max RPM it sounds fantastic! Makes me want to go boating, but it’s winter here in NJ. At least I can live vicariously through your videos until spring! Catch you in the next one!
I believe my merc 60hp has a spun hub and when I throttled down in the lake it made a ticking noise which I don't think a spun prop would make? Have you heard this sound before? It sounded almost like the flywheel key broke?
Hey Tim. Yeah I have, and on this motor. It would do like 3 click like sounds when I throttled down fast. If was from changing the idle timing every time I swapped the 60/70 hp carbs. I would adjust it different for both sets and then forget to readjust it back when swapping them again. It's still a little messed up from all the swaps. It doesn't click anymore but I really need to put the timing light on it. Might be a similar situation ? Thanks again !
I think what I'll do first is put a new impeller on and put a timing light on the flywheel. That will tell me right away if the key broke being time timing Mark's will be of.
When propping for best performance 1: verify all carbs are at full open at wide open setting. 2: is timing correct 3: prop to upper end of range with light load. 5 to 6k for 3cyl 60hp. So with just you and 3/4 fuel load 58 to 6000 with optimum trim setting. Speed is really irrelevant. If it’s just going to be only you and your above 5500 you could go up to 21 p and gain some mph but you sacrifice low end. What’ll kill an engine is low wot rpm and heavy load especially on Jo/Ev 3 cyl 60&70s
I have that same problem with the waders, but I just go in my diaper. 😂 It looks like the motor is moving up and down at speed, prop spin also? Your nerve is being pinched as it goes through the glute muscle so when your getting bounced around on a boat, not helping.
Just a thought, what was the temperature of the water when you got the highest speed? The warmer the water the better the speed. Water gets more dense as it cools. I’m only saying that because you have been troubleshooting for a long time, maybe you can include the temp in your process.
@@fastwin493 I guess I’m going to disagree, because in cold water the viscosity of the water increases which has the net effect of increasing friction between the water and the boat and thereby decreasing speed. Good discussion
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 If I were you, doing what you’re doing I Wouldn’t be able to sleep. Hypothetically, no matter what boat or engine…if your WOT is supposed to be 6000RPM you need to address the prop Size and Pitch to achieve that RPM without exceeding it. Don’t just change your pitch; change your size and even rake. But all of this costs money! BEST WAY TO PICK YOUR PROP - Contact a Prop Shop or manufacturer. They will ask you a few questions and should be able to point you in the right direction. Then, find that size prop. Used, rebuilt or new it will cost you something. But it will rid you of all the headaches you have been dealing with.
@@billco-9801 Hey. Yes I realize that and the money thing too! Hahaha. That's where I'm going with this situation. It's a pain in the butt. There are calculators online but if you dont know what the boat weighs it's a waste of time. Just guessing they're giving me the same 13 x 19 but nobody ever mentions Rake which is what I'm finding out with the original prop that spun out. Stay tuned for the upcoming episodes, they should explain it all. Thanks again !
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I don't have a clue if its original, buts it a large 4 1/4. I think a 14 would hit. I'll have to measure it. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
I thought his cavitation plate looked higher than the bottom of the boat when he was talking about storing it with/without prop out of the water. TOO has been around a longtime, one of the first things old-timers look at mounting an outboard, told myself nah, I was seeing things.
That prop is toast! I think it’s the weight you have in the boat. Everything on the motor sounds fine. Watching you figure it out is fun! Take care of that sciatica!
Hey. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
When you got the most speed out of it was the heavy deck on the front just thinking 🤔 great videos keep making them I am watching the real life saga
Hey. No 38-39 no deck. after deck 36-37. Then the prop spun out at 32. Try ing different props no. Stay tuned !
Most prop repair shops can press out that hub and press a new rubber one in. They just hold with friction and once that rubber gets old and hard they let go.
Yeah. I cant find a part number for that hub. Schematic doesn't even show a hub. Thanks again !
i did the same thing with my most favorite motor, a 30hp 1988 Evinrude. I said to myself, "I guess I'd best check my gear lube, although I KNOW it is going to be just fine." It was low, black and smelled. At least there was no water in it. I was ashamed of myself for letting that happen......... Fortunately, no harm done.
Glad you confirmed the hub is slipping. Check that one off your list.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I'll be taking it out soon and do a flush and change. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
I’ve had pretty good luck using super glue on the hub as long as it’s not wobbly on the bushing. I take 4-6 small. finish nails and clip some vise grips on each one and use a generous amount of glue on the point where the rubber meets the hub and then the prop and push them down in the gap quickly before it’s sets up. I have one that has lasted for years. Of course the hub is meant to spin out to prevent damage to the gear case but a poor man can t keep buying props every season. Real life saga BABY !!
Hey. I might try that seein how I'm a poor man! Hahaha Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Poor guy. I feel sorry for you driving yourself nuts over the speed difference. I thought I had a spun prop once and an old outboard guy told me to make a mark on the rubber and one next to it on the metal part of the prop.
Turned out it was weight in the front of the boat had my prop in an air pocket behind the he boat at high speed
Good luck buddy.
Hey. Hahaha. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned for the next episode !
The best part of this video was you saying that you like having a tach. You resisted not getting one for a long time.
Hahaha. I was waiting to scrap up the $50! Thanks again !
You need to ask Santa for a new prop and a case of gear oil for Chrimbo!
Hahaha. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
I knew that sucker had a spun hub! So I guess you’ll be trying some different prop choices in future episodes? That motor is sweet. When you have it running at max RPM it sounds fantastic! Makes me want to go boating, but it’s winter here in NJ. At least I can live vicariously through your videos until spring! Catch you in the next one!
Hey. Yeah we're having great weather. Thanks El Niño! C U on the next one!
I believe my merc 60hp has a spun hub and when I throttled down in the lake it made a ticking noise which I don't think a spun prop would make? Have you heard this sound before? It sounded almost like the flywheel key broke?
Hey Tim. Yeah I have, and on this motor. It would do like 3 click like sounds when I throttled down fast. If was from changing the idle timing every time I swapped the 60/70 hp carbs. I would adjust it different for both sets and then forget to readjust it back when swapping them again. It's still a little messed up from all the swaps. It doesn't click anymore but I really need to put the timing light on it. Might be a similar situation ? Thanks again !
I think what I'll do first is put a new impeller on and put a timing light on the flywheel. That will tell me right away if the key broke being time timing Mark's will be of.
Can’t wait to see what a good prop does! Then show some fish on 🐟👍😬
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah I need to renew my license. Stay tuned !
When propping for best performance
1: verify all carbs are at full open at wide open setting.
2: is timing correct
3: prop to upper end of range with light load. 5 to 6k for 3cyl 60hp. So with just you and 3/4 fuel load 58 to 6000 with optimum trim setting.
Speed is really irrelevant. If it’s just going to be only you and your above 5500 you could go up to 21 p and gain some mph but you sacrifice low end.
What’ll kill an engine is low wot rpm and heavy load especially on Jo/Ev 3 cyl 60&70s
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yes! Thanks again !
I have that same problem with the waders, but I just go in my diaper. 😂 It looks like the motor is moving up and down at speed, prop spin also? Your nerve is being pinched as it goes through the glute muscle so when your getting bounced around on a boat, not helping.
Yeah and neither was trudging through the muck with waders on! Hahaha Thanks again & Stay tuned !
yep, spun hub for sure. If you're going to run it up to top end you need a new one to last. Also, a beat-up prop can vibrate itself to death
Hahaha. Yeah the beat up prop was just curiosity! Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Just a thought, what was the temperature of the water when you got the highest speed? The warmer the water the better the speed. Water gets more dense as it cools. I’m only saying that because you have been troubleshooting for a long time, maybe you can include the temp in your process.
Hey. The water temp was around the same from the original gps runs. But I see what your saying. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Hey @fastwin......good science explanation and cool name. I have 2 of them..... a ‘53 and a ‘58.
@@fastwin493 I guess I’m going to disagree, because in cold water the viscosity of the water increases which has the net effect of increasing friction between the water and the boat and thereby decreasing speed. Good discussion
Same time same channel next week in the saga continues
Same Time same Channel. Tomorrow ! Hahaha Stay tuned !
I thought my prop was ding up. That almost Look Like my 13x19 on my 90 v4.
Hahaha. Thanks for tuning in!
What’s new pussycat! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!…🤣
Great video! Good find…
thanks for being a steelworker!! You guys have balls!!
Hahaha. Thanks! Stay tuned for the next episode !
I'm wondering how a 13.25x17 would do on your Starcraft.
Hey. I just ran one a few episodes ago before the beat up prop. No help. And I always thought the 17p would be good. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1
If I were you, doing what you’re doing I Wouldn’t be able to sleep.
Hypothetically, no matter what boat or engine…if your WOT is supposed to be 6000RPM you need to address the prop Size and Pitch to achieve that RPM without exceeding it.
Don’t just change your pitch; change your size and even rake. But all of this costs money!
BEST WAY TO PICK YOUR PROP - Contact a Prop Shop or manufacturer. They will ask you a few questions and should be able to point you in the right direction. Then, find that size prop. Used, rebuilt or new it will cost you something. But it will rid you of all the headaches you have been dealing with.
@@billco-9801 Hey. Yes I realize that and the money thing too! Hahaha. That's where I'm going with this situation. It's a pain in the butt. There are calculators online but if you dont know what the boat weighs it's a waste of time. Just guessing they're giving me the same 13 x 19 but nobody ever mentions Rake which is what I'm finding out with the original prop that spun out. Stay tuned for the upcoming episodes, they
should explain it all. Thanks again !
Hey at least there was no water in it 👍
Yeah! Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Your back feels better because that old lady hasn't been coming around!!! You rascal you!!!
Hahaha. I'll never tell. Stay tuned !
Get you a 21 pitch prop if you want more speed.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah I'm looking for one. Thanks again !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 let me see what I have i've got 2 props I don't know what pitch they are they were gave to me.
@@faronmastin8683 thx!
@@faronmastin8683 cool!
What gear case do you have ? I have a 1997 and it has a 14x17 prop
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I don't have a clue if its original, buts it a large 4 1/4. I think a 14 would hit. I'll have to measure it. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 14 fits 14.25 will not
@@megabassbennylippo3760 I'll find out
@@megabassbennylippo3760 Thanks !
Your more apt to have hub slippage under load when you coming out of the hole: Looks like to me you have a cavitation issue,,,,,👍 -.
I thought his cavitation plate looked higher than the bottom of the boat when he was talking about storing it with/without prop out of the water. TOO has been around a longtime, one of the first things old-timers look at mounting an outboard, told myself nah, I was seeing things.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! I'm pretty sure its spun. The hub shows it. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Yeah you was seeing things! Hahaha Thanks !
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Thanks for tuning in!
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Thanks again & Happy Holidays !
The trim shouldn’t be raising up probably the problem
Thanks again !
Love the channel, but draining your oil into the lake you live on is a bit dis-respectful.
Wow. I dont know what video your watching but nobodies draining oil in the lake. Thanks against the Law.
Pulled the upper vent/fill screw. Even though it's above the oil line it still has oil on it to tell if it's bad/foamy.
Yeah your pretty wasted on the medication
Hahaha Yeah I can get a buzz on aspirin! Thanks again & Stay tuned !