Andrew Marr explains why the UK's 'arms ban' on Israel matters | LBC analysis

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  • The UK will suspend some arms sales to Israel, the Foreign Secretary has said.
    David Lammy told MPs on Monday afternoon that there was a "clear risk" that the sales could result in arms being used in a way that could breach international law.
    Mr Lammy said that the UK is suspending around 30 export licenses for arms and military equipment, out of a total of 350.
    This will affect equipment like military aircraft, helicopters and drones.
    The government does not supply arms to Israel directly, but does grant licenses to private companies to sell to Israel. Last year British companies sold around £42 million worth of military equipment to Israel.
    Andrew Marr is joined by LBC's Natasha Clark and Aggie Chambre, as well as former British diplomat Lord Simon McDonald and former Defence Secretary Grant Shapps.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 1 тис.

  • @Ztandard32
    @Ztandard32 13 днів тому +61

    Even LBC is getting very slightly uncomfortable supporting Israel unconditionally.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 11 днів тому +9

      So they should. We won't forget how complicit they have been.

  • @hakanozaslan9571
    @hakanozaslan9571 13 днів тому +294

    Oh please.... a "partial ban" means NOTHING

  • @bcgraham3512
    @bcgraham3512 13 днів тому +19

    Shapps talks like Israel is blameless in the causes of this conflict, when nothing could be further from the truth. Typical Tory hypocricy and double standards.

  • @jaymfom6963
    @jaymfom6963 13 днів тому +282

    Partial ban! And he says it’s with regret!!!!

    • @footballmint
      @footballmint 13 днів тому +8

      Is it not regretful to find out something you were doing was wrong and you feel forced to stop?

    • @yasink331
      @yasink331 13 днів тому +12

      ​@@footballmint If that's what he meant, if he meant it's regretful they can't send more into Israel, that's not the kind of thing to regret

    • @footballmint
      @footballmint 13 днів тому +4

      @@yasink331 I'd argue it is the kind of thing you can be regretful over if the reason you can't send more is because they may be used to break international law.

    • @alexb5815
      @alexb5815 13 днів тому +5

      Could this potentially be considered appeasement of aggressive protestors who mainly vote Labour again while the people who protest for the other side are jailed same week instead

    • @sickbailey21
      @sickbailey21 13 днів тому +6

      @@alexb5815 thats a really dumb way to look at it, but you do you.

  • @seebarry4068
    @seebarry4068 13 днів тому +66

    Why shapps? Irrelevant now, did nothing useful whilst he was.

  • @Inst19ct
    @Inst19ct 13 днів тому +171

    These puppets are driving me nuts😖

    • @beachlife2968
      @beachlife2968 13 днів тому +9

      Labour are like a nightmare advent calendar where each day you get something new that is bad.

    • @williamcummings3227
      @williamcummings3227 13 днів тому +12

      ​@@beachlife2968aye, what a glorious 14 years we'd enjoyed with the Tories in charge. Blissful utopia

    • @jaxworld4490
      @jaxworld4490 13 днів тому +5

      It's like being on a totally different planet, nothing is making sense!

    • @Karen-ix5xy
      @Karen-ix5xy 13 днів тому

      At least tories didnt stop any arms ! ​@@williamcummings3227

    • @uniquevideosUk
      @uniquevideosUk 13 днів тому +1

      ​@@williamcummings3227 🎻 You ever think of anything productive to say? Same old line, find something different 😴

  • @user-bo7fc9tj4z
    @user-bo7fc9tj4z 13 днів тому +65

    Yes to Judaism.
    No to zionism.
    Judaism is a religion.
    Zionism is a political movement.

    • @barbaraseymour3437
      @barbaraseymour3437 13 днів тому

      And the Jews stole Palestinian land with the help of the British government.

    • @darrenjamrock2677
      @darrenjamrock2677 13 днів тому

      Totally agree apart from zionism a political movement its more like a cult

    • @darrenjamrock2677
      @darrenjamrock2677 13 днів тому +4

      Totally agree apart from Zio's is a political movement its more like a cult

    • @TheAlbinoskunk
      @TheAlbinoskunk 13 днів тому +1

      Where did the Jewish religion form, and where is the Old Testament set?

    • @MisterBurtonshaw
      @MisterBurtonshaw 13 днів тому +2

      @@TheAlbinoskunk in a fairy tale book like all religions.

  • @The_Voice_of_Reason748
    @The_Voice_of_Reason748 13 днів тому +223

    "The Occupier does not have the right to defend themselves"
    - UN

    • @abdishariff5967
      @abdishariff5967 13 днів тому +1

      No thief can become an owner ​@@lunatigannie8860

    • @jaskumar8079
      @jaskumar8079 13 днів тому +1

      @@lunatigannie8860you have no country if you’re a real Jew

    • @wiggy5728
      @wiggy5728 13 днів тому

      @@lunatigannie8860 don’t play silly boy, this whole farce is ridiculous. If they were from that country for a short time 3000 years ago, it does not constitute their country
      The colony has lost the plot and is falling apart, yet they still have unexplained support ONLY in the west.
      Check yourself

    • @johnMCMANUS-pi1kd
      @johnMCMANUS-pi1kd 13 днів тому +11

      ​@@lunatigannie8860doesn't belong to izreal

    • @wary5775
      @wary5775 13 днів тому +6

      Poland?

  • @JohnCox-ut3cv
    @JohnCox-ut3cv 13 днів тому +151

    So many holes in that statement. Surely, breaking international law is breaking international law. A serious violation would suggest terminating relations with that country.

    • @uniquevideosUk
      @uniquevideosUk 13 днів тому +1

      Hypocrite.

    • @lentilsoup460
      @lentilsoup460 13 днів тому +8

      'Could' be breaking international law, it's a warning to Israel to encourage them to improve. We don't know if British weapons were used in any violations, and Hamas still needs to be stopped.

    • @JohnCox-ut3cv
      @JohnCox-ut3cv 13 днів тому

      @@lentilsoup460 David Lammy said that Israel had committed serious violations of international law.
      The UK & USA seem to have woken up to the fact Israel has gone rogue. See Biden’s one word comment on Netanyahu today. Netanyahu doubled down with his speech in Israel. The Trilateral Commusion must be working overtime to sort this one out. Unfortunately, they are in a vacuum but the rest of the world is not and they are watching and watching closely.

    • @JordanTait-e6g
      @JordanTait-e6g 13 днів тому

      It used to result in an invasion and oil theft.... I wonder what the difference is.

    • @mattpreece6106
      @mattpreece6106 13 днів тому

      @@lentilsoup460 indeed. We don't get to make the call, that is for a court. But we can send a message. The issue with Israel is that yes it is doing terrible things, but also it has always had terrible things done to it. It has the best anti missile system in the world for a reason. Palestine kept lobbing them. And no matter what Israel does, two wrongs don't make a right. Hamas is still also evil. This isn't as simple as knowing that Russia are bad and Ukraine are the victims. The Gaza situation is deep and messy and I just feel sorry for all the citizens on both sides.

  • @cohen855
    @cohen855 13 днів тому +132

    The uk will do what america wants

    • @markeastlack4180
      @markeastlack4180 13 днів тому +8

      Exactly

    • @SophieSunshine-hn8wd
      @SophieSunshine-hn8wd 13 днів тому +8

      Too true

    • @omarguled9209
      @omarguled9209 13 днів тому +5

      sadly true.

    • @Zenfield350
      @Zenfield350 13 днів тому +24

      And America does what Israel wants

    • @jezbezzer4277
      @jezbezzer4277 13 днів тому

      The ones that run the UK and Most of Europe also run the USA, that's why Isreal is there because the British government made it possible.

  • @johnnypatterson7512
    @johnnypatterson7512 13 днів тому +115

    Lammy claims to be a Zionist. Just let that sit with you for a while.

    • @waynesimon2425
      @waynesimon2425 13 днів тому +19

      Lammy has got Stockholm syndrome.
      Zionism is a colonial entity..

    • @BrokenHill56
      @BrokenHill56 13 днів тому +1

      @lornanotaras1293 Yes, absolutely correct. Israel is a rogue state by any definition

    • @worldwidetruthteller
      @worldwidetruthteller 13 днів тому +10

      He is a house ********

    • @user-bo7fc9tj4z
      @user-bo7fc9tj4z 13 днів тому +9

      No to zionism.
      No supremacy
      No Colonialism..

    • @user-bo7fc9tj4z
      @user-bo7fc9tj4z 13 днів тому +6

      Justice for the Palestinians is justice for humanity.

  • @nadimovitch9237
    @nadimovitch9237 13 днів тому +22

    10% offensive weapons suspended & 90% defensive weapons permitted. Give the man a Nobel peace prize.

  • @HTownCharlieBrown
    @HTownCharlieBrown 13 днів тому +94

    Nonsense. The arms should have stopped decades ago....these are small measures that don't matter and don't effect anything. That's exactly why they did them. As usual. Complicit.

    • @lunatigannie8860
      @lunatigannie8860 13 днів тому +2

      U want islamic world?

    • @kunaiflex491
      @kunaiflex491 13 днів тому

      😂😂 whats next ? Iran has a nuclear weapon? 😂​@@lunatigannie8860

    • @EstebanDVO
      @EstebanDVO 13 днів тому +11

      @@lunatigannie8860 Was that you or the brainworms typing?

    • @thomasstergaard4412
      @thomasstergaard4412 13 днів тому +2

      I am with you, HTownCharlieBrown. I doubt that this will have any real effect. It is a case of too little, too late.

    • @Jouantiese
      @Jouantiese 13 днів тому

      Correct that these moves mean nothing. Wrong otherwise.

  • @user-vx4cx9bl8r
    @user-vx4cx9bl8r 13 днів тому +30

    New foreign secretary, tries to look and sound important, shame he looks and sounds like a joke

  • @littlegesto5320
    @littlegesto5320 13 днів тому +11

    How does Andrew Marr know the hostages weren't shot by the same guns that killed their captors

  • @AJCrowley
    @AJCrowley 13 днів тому +51

    30 out of 300 weapons exports withheld. Way to take the moral high ground without hurting the defense industry's bottom line too much.

    • @greenmantle87
      @greenmantle87 13 днів тому +2

      Likely find those 30 are already out of production and Israel has plenty stocked up anyway 😂

    • @beagle30
      @beagle30 13 днів тому +2

      It’s spares we sell them. We supply less than 1% equipment which is spare parts.

    • @andypeutherer4218
      @andypeutherer4218 11 днів тому

      ​@@beagle30essential parts though

  • @Whiterabbit6789
    @Whiterabbit6789 13 днів тому +106

    Andrew Marr is just a mouth piece for this government.

    • @johnwhalley8270
      @johnwhalley8270 13 днів тому +4

      Hence why he was a Tory up until the Tories started burning the cakes..m

    • @KatchouroBlade
      @KatchouroBlade 13 днів тому +2

      Super injunction Marr. Paid maintenance for years to a love child that wasn't even his.

    • @jaxworld4490
      @jaxworld4490 13 днів тому +1

      Be careful what you write people remember you could be arrested for speaking the truth!

    • @tudormiller887
      @tudormiller887 13 днів тому +2

      I thought that was James O'Brien's job.😂

    • @tudormiller887
      @tudormiller887 13 днів тому +4

      ​@@jaxworld4490As long as you don't type anything inflammatory like the wife of a Tory MP in Northampton did after the Southport murders and during the riots.

  • @WilliamNeely-x1b
    @WilliamNeely-x1b 13 днів тому +127

    What a disgrace of a government,,,

    • @dirtcom7
      @dirtcom7 13 днів тому +20

      For respecting International law?

    • @sheilaroddick5853
      @sheilaroddick5853 13 днів тому +10

      Israel is not a democracy. The word is so overused in the West.The last word the countries closest to Israel would call them is Democratic.

    • @alexpkeaton4471
      @alexpkeaton4471 13 днів тому

      @@Sunshinez732 Iraq is more of a democracy than Israel.

    • @BrendaHeeligan
      @BrendaHeeligan 13 днів тому +3

      @@sheilaroddick5853Demonic more like. An apartheid state that has been playing at being democratic for years.

    • @jpitt8761
      @jpitt8761 13 днів тому

      ​@Sunshinez732 "democracy"? 😂 Israel is a rogue state no better than Iran.

  • @tonylily1
    @tonylily1 13 днів тому +28

    LAMMY , I WOULDNT LET HIM FEED MY CAT !!!!

    • @seafoodpizza
      @seafoodpizza 13 днів тому

      He said, with, regret, because he knows the zios will not pay him as much in bribes

  • @alphapen_dragon8554
    @alphapen_dragon8554 13 днів тому +101

    An autopsy done by the IDF...the most moral army in the world ofcourse they would never lie

    • @guff9567
      @guff9567 13 днів тому

      Who cares. They are cleansing the land for colonisation by moral humans

    • @supernoodles91
      @supernoodles91 13 днів тому

      No doubt it came after the IDF said an investigation would be carried out by...........the IDF!

    • @carolphillips4624
      @carolphillips4624 13 днів тому

      @@alphapen_dragon8554 they don’t but sure you keep believing terrorists when till they are on your doorstep

    • @ghas4151
      @ghas4151 13 днів тому +5

      Crazy, right?

    • @jacobcohen9205
      @jacobcohen9205 13 днів тому +23

      Can you give an example of any army at any time in history that has taken more measures to mitigate civilian casualties in a war than the IDF, no, me neither.

  • @jenniferjuniper12
    @jenniferjuniper12 13 днів тому +121

    It is with regret that he is our F.S. What a disaster we’ll see.

    • @user-vx4cx9bl8r
      @user-vx4cx9bl8r 13 днів тому +14

      The man is a joke, can't take him seriously just like rayner our hilarious deputy pm

    • @KatchouroBlade
      @KatchouroBlade 13 днів тому

      The Tottenham Turnip. Liebour are destroying our country.

    • @eugdee7293
      @eugdee7293 13 днів тому +2

      @@keirhart6310To be fair Lammy has to answer to his donors, £30,000 plus from sources that would be very unhappy to hear that 30 out of 350 contacts were suspended.

    • @sheilaroddick5853
      @sheilaroddick5853 13 днів тому +1

      Exactly.

    • @sajahf
      @sajahf 13 днів тому

      speak for yourself. they just won a general election a few months ago and the general public - in every poll - have long been unhappy with the Israeli government

  • @The_Voice_of_Reason748
    @The_Voice_of_Reason748 13 днів тому +63

    "Hamas were created and funded by Israel"
    - Israeli Brig General Yitzhak Segev

  • @arazzaque
    @arazzaque 13 днів тому +90

    Why is it "with regret". Isreal IS committing war crimes.. There should be no regret. Just because isreal is an Ally.. One cant ignore the atrocities it is committing. If i had a friend and that friend committed horrendous crime. I have to out that friend, condemn and move away. I can't protect the friend. I can't be regretful that I am moving away from that friend.

    • @JonDingle
      @JonDingle 13 днів тому

      Both sides are GUILTY of "war crimes".

    • @jonmcdevitt
      @jonmcdevitt 13 днів тому +2

      You can be regretful that things have reached that point, though.

    • @chrisspencer6502
      @chrisspencer6502 13 днів тому

      Let us not forget, Israel was the no 1 country that applied pressure to invade Iraq.
      They helped cultivate the sources that provided the false intelligence on WMD.
      you'd think this was a c change in policy but it amounts to saying well give you the bullets but not the gun.

    • @faizaambah
      @faizaambah 13 днів тому +4

      Disgusting speech

    • @RuthwikRao
      @RuthwikRao 13 днів тому

      @@jonmcdevitt lol

  • @nj21naz36
    @nj21naz36 13 днів тому +5

    We want a full ban

  • @Busybee-tt1qu
    @Busybee-tt1qu 13 днів тому +30

    The only reason they’ve done it is because the U.K. Muslim vote far out ways the U.K. Jewish vote. It’s as cynical as that . Labour a party without a single principle.

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 13 днів тому

      Supplying arms to a slaughter is without principle.

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 13 днів тому

      It's because they're reading the room. Israel has been having strikes in protest of the war. Nobody wants this, Muslim OR Jewish.

    • @AnthonyBrown12324
      @AnthonyBrown12324 13 днів тому

      Many Jewish people and Israelis don't support Netanyahu . he wants war for his own reasons ; not to get the hostages back .

  • @richieroma
    @richieroma 13 днів тому +47

    Allegedly "shot by their captors' according to those bastions of truth and decency - the IDF

    • @faizaambah
      @faizaambah 13 днів тому +12

      Their captors have no reason to shoot hostages, especially 11 months in

    • @ghas4151
      @ghas4151 13 днів тому +5

      On what basis can you not take their word for it? They are after all the most moral army in the world! 😱

    • @Mr.BednaR
      @Mr.BednaR 13 днів тому +1

      This is a statement many people will overlook or straight away dismiss

    • @jackpatchickmalkinson355
      @jackpatchickmalkinson355 13 днів тому +2

      ​@@faizaambahwow

    • @keithgraham2610
      @keithgraham2610 13 днів тому +1

      And you would rather believe a bunch of inhuman monsters called Hamas. Really???

  • @12stepz49
    @12stepz49 13 днів тому +38

    So we're just blindly going to accept the IDF's version of the 'autopsy'??....hmmmm..ok then

    • @Adamlandau111
      @Adamlandau111 13 днів тому

      Ok so we should blindly trust anything Hamas has to say about humanity 🤡

    • @gillian123ist
      @gillian123ist 13 днів тому +3

      Are you are trying to say they were not murderd

    • @kurremkarmerruk8718
      @kurremkarmerruk8718 13 днів тому +4

      ​@@gillian123istHe's probably wondering who murdered them.

    • @contact594
      @contact594 13 днів тому

      You blindly accepted when they shot their own hostages waving a white flag...or when they rescued a Muslim Arab hostage a few days ago...FFS

    • @TheAlbinoskunk
      @TheAlbinoskunk 13 днів тому

      Read the report by retired Australian air chief marshal Mark Binskin into the mistaken targetting of the WCK convoy, you will see the respect that Western governments hold for the IDF's transparency. I trust them more than whatever Al-Jazeera tells you to think, that's for sure.

  • @Maria-0017
    @Maria-0017 13 днів тому +3

    If Israel didn’t have countries helping them, would they really be doing any of what they have been so free to do ?!

    • @dilyu2662
      @dilyu2662 13 днів тому

      There would be no Israeli if no other country was interested in having a Western pit stop in the Arab lands

  • @SpeaktheTruth-ek1fo
    @SpeaktheTruth-ek1fo 13 днів тому +46

    Britain created this monster and has responsibility to stop this monster from destroying humanity.

  • @honeybeebadger
    @honeybeebadger 13 днів тому +26

    Hamas has 10 UK hostages why not try and get the release of UK citizens 🙁

    • @SimplySketchyGT
      @SimplySketchyGT 13 днів тому +2

      Yeah so Netanyahu keeps adding thing to the ceasefire agreement. This is a power play to put pressure on him to actually sign one. Which will get the hostages back.

    • @khaledkhaled4299
      @khaledkhaled4299 11 днів тому

      Ask the 500,000 Israeli protesters in Tel Aviv why

  • @benjones3466
    @benjones3466 13 днів тому +4

    If there's a possibility that some of our munitions could be involved with war crimes, there's a possibility that all of our munitions are used for war crimes. A partial ban may be a symbolic warning to Israel, but it's an objectively confused position to take if we're actually concerned about the use of our arms in the commission of war crimes.

  • @CheekyMonkey0007
    @CheekyMonkey0007 13 днів тому +21

    A partial ban, less than 10% ffs
    Total ban now!!!

    • @Bakersvill
      @Bakersvill 13 днів тому

      Your brain is jelly, wait untill your protecting your self from constant attacks from 2 confirmed terrorist groups

    • @beagle30
      @beagle30 13 днів тому

      We probably buy more from Israel than we sell them

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 13 днів тому

      Not a chance. There is only one winner.

  • @D47JoyUnited
    @D47JoyUnited 13 днів тому +22

    WHo would have thought he was a Zionist, will the real Zionist please stand up. Just so we know who NOT to vote for next time.

    • @contact594
      @contact594 13 днів тому

      A zionist believes in self determination for Jews, why can't they have that?

  • @tommann9490
    @tommann9490 13 днів тому +6

    How about we stop getting involved in other countries wars and prevent UK tax payers having to foot the bill.

    • @contact594
      @contact594 13 днів тому

      Only thing UK taxpayers pay for is a Jihadi education in UNWRA schools dear....

    • @kevinsmarts9953
      @kevinsmarts9953 12 днів тому +1

      Selling weapons to another country is not costing the tax payer anything. They gain from the taxes paid by the arms industry. The UK is not giving them away here.

  • @AlexJacksonTempleSounds
    @AlexJacksonTempleSounds 13 днів тому +7

    It doesn't matter, lammy doesn't matter, Labour don't matter. You don't matter Andrew!

  • @dreeandbill
    @dreeandbill 13 днів тому +36

    Partial ban on arms. 30 out of 350.....not enough, Labour. Stop ALL of them.....and stop spending the £3 billion on Ukraine per year.

    • @Khalkara
      @Khalkara 13 днів тому +7

      Why stop funding Ukraine exactly? Do you not care about other people?

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 13 днів тому

      You will begrudge Ukraine £3 billion, but spend £50 billion on illegals, and then build them all brand new fully furnished houses each??? Hope you have a plan to work 7 days a week to pay for it. You want them here, you pay for them.

  • @user-qf1zg4zz8j
    @user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 днів тому +12

    We should be applying wide spread sanctions in support of international law not just 10% of arms sales.

  • @williamsommerville9319
    @williamsommerville9319 13 днів тому +8

    Weak labour government 🇬🇧

  • @The_Voice_of_Reason748
    @The_Voice_of_Reason748 13 днів тому +36

    "The protesters are anti-semetic"
    - Suella Braverman

    • @Ettrick8
      @Ettrick8 13 днів тому +14

      Utter nonsense.

    • @user-bo7fc9tj4z
      @user-bo7fc9tj4z 13 днів тому +15

      Anti-zionism is not antisemtic.

    • @user-bo7fc9tj4z
      @user-bo7fc9tj4z 13 днів тому +12

      Criticism of Israel is not antisemtic.

    • @user-bo7fc9tj4z
      @user-bo7fc9tj4z 13 днів тому +10

      Yes to Judaism.
      No to zionism.
      Judaism is a religion.
      Zionism is a political movement.

    • @user-bo7fc9tj4z
      @user-bo7fc9tj4z 13 днів тому +6

      Anti-zionism is not anti Judaism.
      Anti-zionism is not anti Semitic.

  • @zxbzxbzxb1
    @zxbzxbzxb1 13 днів тому +51

    The idea that a group of 5 MPs can put pressure on a government with a 174 seat majority is mildly hilarious

    • @jimcobain4381
      @jimcobain4381 13 днів тому +11

      Them 5 people have 4.2 million people and rising behind them, 14% of the vote share, they came second in 98 seats. Labour have not increased their vote share whatsoever, so unless Labour do what they got voted in for they certainly will lose a lot more votes guaranteed

    • @zxbzxbzxb1
      @zxbzxbzxb1 13 днів тому

      @@jimcobain4381 Political power under our voting system is solely based on the MPs you get elected, not vote share. It's time Corbyn and his fans understood that.

    • @MzeeMoja1
      @MzeeMoja1 13 днів тому +4

      This is how democracy works and you should be appreciative that those 5 are demonstrably effective as you've noted in that weird sneer.

    • @SarahWalker-Smith
      @SarahWalker-Smith 13 днів тому

      He always was naive .

    • @bcgraham3512
      @bcgraham3512 13 днів тому +1

      You had that for decades with the relatively few Ulster Unionist MP's in Westminster wagging the Tory dog, and we never heard a peep out of any of you.

  • @user-qf1zg4zz8j
    @user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 днів тому +33

    Grant Shapps: "student politics" when I think he should have said "international law". So much for the former "party of law and order".

    • @paulphillips4267
      @paulphillips4267 13 днів тому

      International law! Oh do me a favour. How about Hamas being subjected to some basic laws of civilisation

    • @user-qf1zg4zz8j
      @user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 днів тому +6

      @@paulphillips4267 Has Humus killed way more than 40,000 human beings and systematically tortured their hostages and would you agree that if they or any other group had done such a thing that group would be beneath contempt regarding basic laws of civilisation including the gen o cide convention.

    • @SimplySketchyGT
      @SimplySketchyGT 13 днів тому

      @@paulphillips4267Hamas is a terrorist organisation…. As was the IRA but the IRA are now Sinn Fein.

  • @The_Voice_of_Reason748
    @The_Voice_of_Reason748 13 днів тому +39

    Hannibal Doctrine

    • @Method9
      @Method9 13 днів тому +3

      Reminds me of "The Shock Doctrine" from Naomi Klein, as well as her speech to Jewish Voices for Peace: "We need an exodus from Zionism."

  • @jonstclair3290
    @jonstclair3290 13 днів тому +14

    Weasle words, they won't stop helping them

  • @marilynrich3456
    @marilynrich3456 13 днів тому +22

    Grant Shapps used 4 bogus arguments. The first one is often called "ad hominem" meaning against the person - basically a smear, not a point of fact or reason. This is when he called it "student politics", labeling the move as childish.

    • @Clownsareus
      @Clownsareus 13 днів тому

      Is G S a pro Zionist ?

    • @PortilloMoment
      @PortilloMoment 13 днів тому +1

      One more than his three previously used bogus names then. The man's on the up!

  • @martinturtak4901
    @martinturtak4901 12 днів тому +3

    As UK tax payer I demand full ban !

  • @joshuabetts2484
    @joshuabetts2484 13 днів тому +8

    Oh Grant Shapps, eternally useless. They're not exactly doing it because they don't like the governing party.

    • @mjl2904
      @mjl2904 12 днів тому

      Is Grant Shapps even his real name? 😂

  • @flamboyentpromotions3471
    @flamboyentpromotions3471 13 днів тому +19

    Grant Shapps embarrassed himself, to say this is because Labour doesnt like the Israeli government is idiotic

  • @samb8742
    @samb8742 13 днів тому +2

    Bring black Jeremy Corbyn as a foreign minister to do a better job!

  • @mr.coolmug3181
    @mr.coolmug3181 13 днів тому +25

    Andrew stop shilling for the Labour Party.

  • @MrMauriceOByrne
    @MrMauriceOByrne 13 днів тому +7

    “A bit overdue”. He sounds crazy…living in an alternate reality

  • @supernoodles91
    @supernoodles91 13 днів тому +3

    The Tories should've initiated this earlier this year (as well as banning arm sales to Saudi considering the Saudi bombing of Yemen) but Labour should've done it immediately.

  • @thomasandrewclifford
    @thomasandrewclifford 13 днів тому +5

    You're joking right? 320 instead of 350 isn't really a big change You're telling me we are selling 320 pea shooters and 30 megatonne bombs?

  • @ChristopherAnuforo
    @ChristopherAnuforo 13 днів тому +44

    Even Michael Gove doesn't know that Britain is involved in this.

  • @user-bo7fc9tj4z
    @user-bo7fc9tj4z 13 днів тому +6

    Every human life is precious.
    Stop arming Israel please!

  • @davidgreen6490
    @davidgreen6490 13 днів тому +12

    Labour will never get into office again..

    • @aileronsintowind6835
      @aileronsintowind6835 13 днів тому

      Pretty sure this was all provided before labour got into power

  • @loughs
    @loughs 12 днів тому +2

    I'm puzzled (though not surprised) by msm reporting on this matter.
    Should the headline not read "Britain decides to continue providing 320 arms licenses to a country committing g-cide"?

  • @neonwired4978
    @neonwired4978 12 днів тому +3

    it's the tiniest most insignificant action against serious war crimes

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo 13 днів тому +33

    Hannibal Directive

    • @rob1tom
      @rob1tom 13 днів тому +2

      You can't have hostages telling the truth.

    • @contact594
      @contact594 13 днів тому

      Like the Muslim Arab hostage rescued a few days ago? where was Hannibal then clown?

    • @alexpkeaton4471
      @alexpkeaton4471 13 днів тому

      @@contact594 The IDF needed a human shield. Again.

  • @EnigmaticRealms1
    @EnigmaticRealms1 13 днів тому +3

    30 out of 300 weapons. This is hypocrisy manifest

    • @beagle30
      @beagle30 13 днів тому

      Not weapons or munitions but parts

    • @kurremkarmerruk8718
      @kurremkarmerruk8718 13 днів тому

      Keyrings and flashlights. Maybe some boot laces.

  • @Harrier_DuBois
    @Harrier_DuBois 13 днів тому +6

    We are only withholding a fraction of the arms, most of them are still being traded.

  • @SpeaktheTruth-ek1fo
    @SpeaktheTruth-ek1fo 13 днів тому +21

    Why partial and not total ban?

    • @bigdaz7272
      @bigdaz7272 13 днів тому +1

      Because the US has threatened to withdraw servicing, maintaining, arming and selling F35 Fighters to the UK if they stop any meaningful Arms Sales to Israel.

    • @englishguy9680
      @englishguy9680 13 днів тому

      Theyre cowards

    • @kurremkarmerruk8718
      @kurremkarmerruk8718 13 днів тому

      Because he is a "zionist." His own words.

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo 13 днів тому +28

    Israel is finished

    • @grtinfulleffect8349
      @grtinfulleffect8349 13 днів тому +5

      I beg to differ. I'm in the United States. Most of the hardest working people I run into everyday are American Jews and they like Israel.
      ~~your African bruda.

    • @The_Voice_of_Reason748
      @The_Voice_of_Reason748 13 днів тому +17

      ​@@grtinfulleffect8349Yeap. The United States of Israel.
      USS Liberty 😢

    • @wary5775
      @wary5775 13 днів тому +5

      They like it so much that they live 10 thousands miles away from they beloved country

    • @62Cristoforo
      @62Cristoforo 13 днів тому

      You can disagree all you want but here are the facts. I mean it is finished both as a country and as an idea, namely Zionism. Israel is now an international pariah, a terrorist state. Even support from Western governments is slowly dwindling. The Israeli economy has nearly collapsed from death of its tourism industry and half the work force has stopped due to internal displacement from areas just outside the Gaza fence and in northern Israel, near the Lebanese border, due to hostilities. About half a million Israelis have already fled from Israel, back to their real homes in Europe, Florida and New Jersey. The country is divided with a massive protest today against the Netanyahu war cabinet. And after 11 months the IDF has not been able to return any hostages nor defeat Hamas. In fact, it has killed more hostages than has Hamas. Hamas needs these people alive to be used as bargaining chips in future negotiations. It makes no sense they’d want them dead. These six hostages were most likely killed by IDF, not by Hamas. This defeat in Gaza is an utter humiliation for Netanyahu and for Israeli society. The country is tearing itself apart. What you say about Jews living in the USA has no relevance to my initial comment.

    • @kunaiflex491
      @kunaiflex491 13 днів тому +5

      ​@@grtinfulleffect8349why don't u move there ?

  • @robertwilson214
    @robertwilson214 13 днів тому +4

    Newsflash - government stops giving kitchen knives to Peter Sutcliffe.

  • @briangalsworthy4306
    @briangalsworthy4306 13 днів тому +4

    LAMMY & UK IS COMPLICIT

  • @darkred607
    @darkred607 13 днів тому +57

    Democractic 💩

  • @christopherbaxter434
    @christopherbaxter434 13 днів тому +1

    The damage is already done, what a joke this country is.

  • @01sinat
    @01sinat 13 днів тому +9

    Over 40, 000 have been killed. They just trip over this statement, with the greatest of ease. John Pilger’s book “FREEDOM NEXT TIME “ a book worth reading. A compulsive, but a heartbreaking read.

    • @TheAlbinoskunk
      @TheAlbinoskunk 13 днів тому +1

      How many Hamas fighters have been killed?

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead 13 днів тому

      Where do you get your figures from?

  • @GERALD9912
    @GERALD9912 12 днів тому +2

    Too little too late, not a ban, only certain items, the damage has already been done

  • @Greengoblin-qk6kq
    @Greengoblin-qk6kq 13 днів тому +4

    I take it that labour wasn't concerned about a 22 billion black hole after all

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 13 днів тому +1

      He just stopped 7 million a year hardly a big dint in the 22 billion.

  • @chriswalker83cw
    @chriswalker83cw 13 днів тому +5

    Turns out the partial ban is for flashlights.

    • @beagle30
      @beagle30 13 днів тому

      Well they don’t actually sell weapons and ammunition but spare parts.

  • @atifarohman3342
    @atifarohman3342 13 днів тому +4

    'It is with regret...' FFS just be done with the sugar coating. Partial ban, Lord almighty what a wet flannel

  • @aradom344
    @aradom344 10 днів тому +1

    Those supporting the war will be ashamed one day

  • @brianheale5064
    @brianheale5064 13 днів тому +16

    This is madness effectively supporting terrorism.

    • @robertwilson214
      @robertwilson214 13 днів тому +5

      You're well gone

    • @Bringontheasteroid
      @Bringontheasteroid 13 днів тому +3

      @@robertwilson214 I think a mirror might be in order, Bob.

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 13 днів тому

      As only 10% of the arms are affected we are still supporting terrorism.

    • @nataliegriffin7727
      @nataliegriffin7727 13 днів тому

      Totally agree

    • @chrisrobinson9178
      @chrisrobinson9178 13 днів тому +1

      @@nataliegriffin7727 ask the british soldiers in the king david hotel

  • @rezreaver
    @rezreaver 13 днів тому +4

    Labour they are just the worst

  • @user-dd2ry6gc8o
    @user-dd2ry6gc8o 13 днів тому +16

    So starmer will have to find more tax money from us to fill the gap of lost arms deals 😂😂😂😂

  • @tw1r0y
    @tw1r0y 13 днів тому +21

    As an Israeli I hope Israel will reciprocate by cancelling the export of Israeli components to the Challenger 3.

    • @Scot-land
      @Scot-land 13 днів тому +5

      As a British citizen I fully agree and stand with Israel

    • @jimpaddy79
      @jimpaddy79 13 днів тому +2

      What Israeli parts are used in Challenger 3

    • @jimpaddy79
      @jimpaddy79 13 днів тому +4

      @@Scot-landwhy?

    • @jacobcohen9205
      @jacobcohen9205 13 днів тому

      The cl&wns on here have yet to get a clue, mate. I could add many sophisticated electronics to the list. It's an exercise in virtue signalling to keep the ma left in check. They still think the UK has the influence it once had.
      I am British, by the way.

    • @edmann1820
      @edmann1820 13 днів тому

      As a British citizen I hope we ban all imports and exports to Israel. Boycott, divestment and sanctions. You cannot act like monsters without repercussions.

  • @ah-lx9xi
    @ah-lx9xi 13 днів тому +13

    A step in the right direction but need to include a further ban to cover usage in illegally occupied territories. 👍

    • @jaresteph
      @jaresteph 13 днів тому

      So as long as Hamas continues to hide under their meat shields ... Nothing can be done? What you're asking is not plausible and only plays into the hands of literal terrorists

  • @rizwanhussain645
    @rizwanhussain645 13 днів тому +2

    With REGRET....Let this sink in!!!

  • @n0w3lly90
    @n0w3lly90 13 днів тому +3

    It matters as the Labour govt now presents us like useful idiots

  • @jtmuso
    @jtmuso 13 днів тому +3

    I was feeling well informed and then Grant Shapp-in-pants turned up.

  • @gavinwhitby5164
    @gavinwhitby5164 13 днів тому +6

    Say what you want about Israel, but there's nothing worse than when a sentence doesn't finish the way you think it testicles

  • @The_Voice_of_Reason748
    @The_Voice_of_Reason748 13 днів тому +8

    What religion does Grant Shapps belong to?
    Case closed.

  • @garypullan
    @garypullan 13 днів тому +11

    Lammy makes this announcement days after Hamas have EXECUTED six hostages - really shocking

    • @scaryjoker
      @scaryjoker 13 днів тому +3

      So far, only the terrorist IDF have killed hostages, why would this time be any different, especially since they refuse to allow any international journalists in? Netanyahu is walking a very tight rope.

    • @sidkings
      @sidkings 13 днів тому +1

      Hannibal doctrine

  • @MyRPgaming
    @MyRPgaming 13 днів тому +1

    The reason that the arms ban won't end is because of the F-35 programme.
    We paid 10% of the development costs for that aircraft and anything between 15-30% of the final product is manufactured in Britain.
    It's American project first. We stop selling the parts, then America make them themselves and we lose workshare for an aircraft we paid development costs for.
    If we want to withhold all arms then we need to have an independent military that makes its own equipment.
    Lots of people complain that we follow American policy, yet they want us to be defenceless and dependent on Americans.
    This is a big reason why we need more defence spending.

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 13 днів тому

      And now with Tempest they have Japan and Italy dragging things future obstacle

    • @MyRPgaming
      @MyRPgaming 13 днів тому

      @@theancientsancients1769 Tempest is a sovereign programme. We are able to sell it to any country that we like.
      People are seriously suggesting that we scrap it and give up our aerospace sector and import from America instead.

  • @The_Voice_of_Reason748
    @The_Voice_of_Reason748 13 днів тому +23

    "KHamas are an asset"
    - Smotrich

  • @OliviaHacking-kf7px
    @OliviaHacking-kf7px 13 днів тому +1

    The same Andrew Marr who said - we will have a steady hand in charge with KS - really.

  • @jorgegustavoortiz7717
    @jorgegustavoortiz7717 11 днів тому

    All of it should be totally suspended... All of it is being used to commit crimes against against humanity...

  • @duncanwatt3720
    @duncanwatt3720 13 днів тому +5

    Our ally is under attack from a terrorist organisation and we suspend supply of arms to help them! Outrageous.

  • @grahamherbert3612
    @grahamherbert3612 13 днів тому +1

    As if Israel worries about Lammy's existence.

  • @Colin-px6il
    @Colin-px6il 13 днів тому +5

    It was the excuse they needed for them to change sides and go with the Palestinians.

  • @amardeepsanghera5591
    @amardeepsanghera5591 13 днів тому +1

    Social media is toxic … loads of fools like me making generic comments without appreciating complexity …

  • @timibuli1501
    @timibuli1501 13 днів тому +3

    War is bad!!🕊️🙏

  • @siadali7673
    @siadali7673 13 днів тому +1

    David Lammy leading from the front to find a peaceful solution for peace in Gaza.

  • @bigdaz7272
    @bigdaz7272 13 днів тому +5

    If you want a proper Ex Diplomat on invite the honourable Craig Murray on your show

  • @josephtregolwyn4972
    @josephtregolwyn4972 13 днів тому +1

    The signal to Israel's enemies is "thumbs up!" The view from Heaven's court is the one that matters. Bless Israel, be blessed. Curse Israel, brace yourself for curses. Now, let's see what happens in Britain. Blessings or curses. By that, we'll know if Heaven approves this government's decision. (Much more could be said.)

  • @jimschannel2220
    @jimschannel2220 13 днів тому +7

    How much money is Lamey getting from Israel?

  • @MarkDenmark-nz2pz
    @MarkDenmark-nz2pz 13 днів тому +2

    Its too late . UK is part of the 40 thousands kld in Ga£a .

  • @Steve-Cross
    @Steve-Cross 13 днів тому +4

    A very dangerous move. Israel is the only allied nation in that region, that has the capability of keeping Islamic forces at Bay. This guy should not be in charge of a kindergarten. How ridiculous. 🤬

    • @kurremkarmerruk8718
      @kurremkarmerruk8718 13 днів тому

      Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Turkey are not coming for you, mate. You sound hysterical. Israel is exacerbating tensions in the region, not militating against them.
      "Capability of keeping Islamic forces at bay"? What are you on about?

  • @robertausten3704
    @robertausten3704 13 днів тому +2

    What happened to the war terrorism when we entered Iraq and Afghanistan? Do we still have a war on terrorism? Doesn’t look like it.

    • @CHuzz7777
      @CHuzz7777 13 днів тому

      We lost. It’s over

  • @JohnnyRingo-c5v
    @JohnnyRingo-c5v 13 днів тому +10

    Appeasing the Muslim vote 😂

    • @kurremkarmerruk8718
      @kurremkarmerruk8718 13 днів тому

      By banning ten percent and calling himself a "zionist". Appeasing or winding up?

    • @JohnnyRingo-c5v
      @JohnnyRingo-c5v 10 днів тому

      @@kurremkarmerruk8718 they hate that there’s a Jewish state

    • @kurremkarmerruk8718
      @kurremkarmerruk8718 10 днів тому

      @@JohnnyRingo-c5v You'd have to parse the difference between people who hate the Israeli state and those who are resentful of a Jewish state -- and then legitimate criticism gets thrown in.
      But there's no correlation between the state's existence and Britain's ten percent of one percent of arms sales to a US-backed nuclear nation. Israel is here to stay.