We had the same issue with our tag trailer. We stripped the wood off and took 1/4” angle iron upside down on the ramps and beaver tail. No issues since. Good luck!
A couple years ago I saw a video of an operator trying to load a D6 LGP in freezing rain. After a couple nasty slides, out came the old tires and up the ramps she went.
I've seen equipment trailers with small tires up front. I guessed they were a loading aid, but not seen them actually used in this sort of situation. I bet a few hundred dozers and other heavy stuff, get loaded on trailers everyday, and in every condition, so you may depend others have had this problem and found a fix. That could have gone _very_ nasty, and Bossman Uncle John would not have been smiling. I expect we'll see some old tires added to the Letsdig18 transport accessory list before too long.
Hey Chris, next time, just chain-bind a couple of chains across the ramp part of the deck so the tracks will have something to grab and not slip. Love your content.
I had this problem once here in Wisconsin in the winter, a dozer with ice covered tracks trying to climb onto an overdeck trailer. I could get almost to the breaking point where it would nose down and then lose it. I had a guy with me so we ran chains from the blade forward to the Drings, when I slipped I picked the blade up which forced the nose down so it’d bite more and it climbed right up no problem. It’s a real pain with a smooth drum roller or sheepsfoot compactor, those won’t bite on anything
Hook a chain or two across the dovetail for tracks to grab. Or cross 2 chains in x to trailer and to track. Chain keeps from tracks from sliding and will winch you up and eaiser to correct if sliding
We had rebar welded down on the ramps for the tracks to grab. Works perfect and you cant hurt them. I currently have square bars welded on, I like the rebar better.
That's what I was about to say. Old mudflaps work pretty good...can be bolted or screwed down with fender washers too. Cheap/free and easily replaceable.
No easy way about it but what an old man man told me to do is wrap a chain around the trailer and the ramps you know like all the way around and hook it in the middle and that chain gives you an unbelievable amount of traction when it’s slippery
Might try throwing a chain across the ramps or end of the tail and hook it tight on the rub rails when its slick like that. The grousers will catch the chain and you can stay straight on the trailer. It wont let you slide like that. Just like having steel traction bars welded on the tail.
To load a dozer on a slick trailer, sprinkle some sand all over the trailer bed. Trailer ramps should have metal cleats welded on them for traction. Many turnover accidents happen loading on a slope with muddy or wet tracks. Most critical is the breakover point.
Might be worth bolting done some textured rubber mats or something on the dovetail. Like a few old mud flaps or something to give something for the metal tracks to get traction on even when wet. A guys gotta have nerves of steel having a heavy machine slip and slide like that loading it on a trailer.
Had the exact same problem one time with a Komatsu 31p-20 with pyramid tracks or some call them swamp tracks in MS. Wet Wood and steel is slick sometimes. Hey Chris get you some worn out boat trailer tires and lay them down on the wood part of ramp. But then again just something else to carry around but it sure saved me one time.
"How boutcha there driver" that gave me a laugh. I'm going to use that one on the radio at work tomorrow when I pass another mixer see if he responds lol
I don’t like ramps and beaver tails with boards. I’ve had this problem before. Now I have open slat bars for the ramps and beaver tails on trailers. A lot less trouble
been there, done that, went sideways off the trailer....no harm done, just broke over the dovetail and as soon as the tracks hit square on the trailer, it slowly went sideways and off the side. unhook trailer, chain up upper track to pintle hitch, and pull back on both trax lol....boss asks me "what took you so long to move the dozer?"......weeelllllll, lemme tell you a little story lol
That's as good as a UA-cam notification. Everytime the mailman hits that pavement he will remember to watch the new LetsDig18 video. Thanks for all the videos Chris.
When I first started running equipment, the guy I worked far had a D6 High track slide off the trailer and almost flip. I got a roll of toilet paper out of the truck and asked him if he needed it. He didn't think it was as damn funny as all of us did.
Time to change out that dovetail for one with grip bars welded across! A company I used to work for had a deck over like this that I refused to use due to the danger of equipment sliding off while loading or unloading. I would only use a trailer that had traction bars welded to the dovetail.
Does the Dozer make it up this time? Lol I'll watch it twice 😉 definitely feel your frustrations on slippery trailer ramps😡..Saw some scuffs on the counter weight..better buff out!!
I've had to wrap chains on the ramps before to give my machines tracks something to grab onto for traction. Just hook the chain on one side of the ramp and wrap it around and around and around until you run out and then hook that end (use a binder if you need to). Then do the same on the other ramp and drive up.
We deal with that sliding issue in pa alot I take two chains and wrap them around each ramp a few times works like a charm if your interested in trying it
If you could get a chain attached to the bottom of the tracks, you might be able to just drive it on and somehow get the chain out from under the tracks afterwards.
Modern automatic can out pull stick now it is more continuous in shifting plus it uses tyranny fluid tourx converter hydraulics to move and shift the truck
Call around and find some old used restaurant kitchen rubber no slip floor runners and throw them down on the ramps and deck before loading steel tracks, it works crazy good and is much safer.
I worked a crash where a fella loaded his D-6 on a wet steel trailer. He said he wasn't going far so he didn't tie it down. Made the turn onto the state highway flipped the whole thing off the trailer upside down. Busted sprockets, blade rotaters busted up good.
so many comments about increasing traction, using rubber mats, old tires, weld rebar across, when really the whole problem came down to speed ... or rather a lack thereof. Next time floor it, run the dozer up the ramps at 3 to 4 times the speed and get it up there before it even has time to think about sliding sideways. Sometimes you just gotta trick the equipment a little bit. :D
I read some the comments.. They all do work.. But I have been there.. And the fastest cheapest way to fix that is. Big bolts screw them into the deck.. And the tracks will catch the bolt heads.. Them if any break off just replace the bolt..
We ended up wrapping a chain around the ramps before an hooked another chain from the rubrail across the dove tail to the other rubrail just to get some traction.
Chris next time if trying to load in the wet bring about 6 old car tyres with you they will give you a bit more grip on the trailer deck and the tracks will grip in them.
In a pinch, run a few of your chains across the dovetail for additional grip as you climb it up on there. Of course cleats are in your future, I'm sure. And 4:25 "Batta Bing Batta Boom"
When I watched you back that dozer all the hell far away from the trailer I thought you were fixing to get one hell of a run up and charge at the trailer.
That made me smile. We have some fairly hairy airports in NZ, with Wellington and Queenstown being top of the list. Passengers absolutely hate landing their on a windy day, but I am told by a pilot friend that the crew love it, and feel cheated out of some fun when conditions are easy. I wouldn't mind, but the fact is they do get it wrong sometimes. Too many helicopters crash in New Zealand, and I am never flying in a helicopter or seaplane again. My most terrifying experience was flying out of Picton in a seaplane. He hugs the hillside to get extra lift. I am sitting next to the pilot and can see bugger all out front, and a wall of mountain just off the wingtip. The pilot is the same height as me, so can't see anything either. A year later he flipped it landing with a tailwind in a choppy Pelorus Sound. I think the plane stayed sunk, which is good because he can't terrify anyone else now! www.stuff.co.nz/national/85065175/water-taxi-saves-pilot-after-floatplane-crash-in-marlborough-sounds
Take some old mud flaps and screw fast every so often all the way up the trailer floor then if they get ripped up you just unscrew and replace. Just a suggestion
Yes sir, I am Telling You.. it was to Slippery to load... I have Video to Prove it and I did Not tear up the yard on purpose.!! 😱🤷🏻♂️ That old Kohring Dragline C C Magnum had in the mid 80s had Smooth Tracks on it, NO cleats, you couldn’t load it in the drizzling rain or mud. 🌧👷♂️🛑
Rob Fraley I know what you mean ! I always load crawler machines with old conveyor belt laid out on the ramps and up onto the deck, as flat pads have only point contact where the slope of the ramp meets the level section of the deck - that’s why they slide. Oftentimes they will go on better backwards.
perfectionist had to reverse those clips i see...thanks for the videos chris
haha yeah I screwed up!
@@letsdig18 at least you did not slide completely off and high center it on the ramp
Chris done forgot more about backing a truck than most of these steering wheel holders ever knew! Keep diggin😎
We had the same issue with our tag trailer. We stripped the wood off and took 1/4” angle iron upside down on the ramps and beaver tail. No issues since. Good luck!
That's why we welded 1/4" stock every foot up the dove on the trailer. Been there. No fun.
Lol I said the same thing...see one come off and I was standin there like Tim helpless
I was thinking of saying that same thing, and, lowering his blade .
I was just going to comment the same thing.
@@jerrystott7780 It makes a world of difference.
@@travismarett7100 we used to use half inch rebar, but the machinery was quite a bit bigger, the application is the same though.
I have been doing this stuff since 1968 . I am very used to this loading wet and angled. Carry about 6-10 burlap bags They work wonders
For myself: four old car tires we keep with the trailer, the tires help with the traction and also keep the grousers from eating the ramps.
A couple years ago I saw a video of an operator trying to load a D6 LGP in freezing rain. After a couple nasty slides, out came the old tires and up the ramps she went.
That's what I said to the computer monitor,..." go get some old tires Chris." but he didn't hear me !!
I've seen equipment trailers with small tires up front. I guessed they were a loading aid, but not seen them actually used in this sort of situation. I bet a few hundred dozers and other heavy stuff, get loaded on trailers everyday, and in every condition, so you may depend others have had this problem and found a fix. That could have gone _very_ nasty, and Bossman Uncle John would not have been smiling. I expect we'll see some old tires added to the Letsdig18 transport accessory list before too long.
Hey Chris, next time, just chain-bind a couple of chains across the ramp part of the deck so the tracks will have something to grab and not slip.
Love your content.
I had this problem once here in Wisconsin in the winter, a dozer with ice covered tracks trying to climb onto an overdeck trailer. I could get almost to the breaking point where it would nose down and then lose it. I had a guy with me so we ran chains from the blade forward to the Drings, when I slipped I picked the blade up which forced the nose down so it’d bite more and it climbed right up no problem. It’s a real pain with a smooth drum roller or sheepsfoot compactor, those won’t bite on anything
Hook a chain or two across the dovetail for tracks to grab. Or cross 2 chains in x to trailer and to track. Chain keeps from tracks from sliding and will winch you up and eaiser to correct if sliding
wow ur actually really good at driving a big rig...and the reverse maneuvet into that driveway was admirable. well done guy
We had rebar welded down on the ramps for the tracks to grab. Works perfect and you cant hurt them. I currently have square bars welded on, I like the rebar better.
Been there and done that.. I ended up welding some angle iron on my dove tail to give the dozer cleats something to get a hold of.
I'll bet you were saying a few choice works in the cab of the bulldozer 😂😂😂😂
In this video: letsdig18 gives new meaning to “set ‘er sideways”
Always carry mudflaps with you to lay on the steel. We use them on the 4 axle cosad to load the excavator when it rains which is a lot out here.
That's what I was about to say. Old mudflaps work pretty good...can be bolted or screwed down with fender washers too. Cheap/free and easily replaceable.
Or conveyer belt
Can also put a chain with a binder in the middle across the trailer
Next time you are at the Quarry, ask them if they have some old conveyor belt, cut it up and bolt it to your steel ramps.
Great idea, I was thinking just carry a bag of cat litter in the truck, but your idea would be a long term solution.
Think I see rubber mats on the tail soon
Your a really good driver and really good operator I hope to aquire as much skill as you when I get older
No easy way about it but what an old man man told me to do is wrap a chain around the trailer and the ramps you know like all the way around and hook it in the middle and that chain gives you an unbelievable amount of traction when it’s slippery
Yesterday I couldn't spell truck driver and today I are one!! Nice backing job Chris!!
Might try throwing a chain across the ramps or end of the tail and hook it tight on the rub rails when its slick like that. The grousers will catch the chain and you can stay straight on the trailer. It wont let you slide like that. Just like having steel traction bars welded on the tail.
Doing a fine job driver !! Glad you got the dozer on there ! Thanks for sharing
To load a dozer on a slick trailer, sprinkle some sand all over the trailer bed. Trailer ramps should have metal cleats welded on them for traction. Many turnover accidents happen loading on a slope with muddy or wet tracks. Most critical is the breakover point.
The most dangerous part of operating heavy equipment. Getting it on and off the trailer.
Throw a chain over the tralier and tighten it with a binder. Should give you plenty of grip
^^^ THIS!!!!
Most of the time I'll carry a "safety" chain that is pretty much scrap. I'll use it in this fashion due to some tracks will chew through the chain lol
Great job using the 'road's cross slope' to assist the bulldozer's track system for loading. "Where there is a will there is a way!"
Swami says there will be a boat load of advice on increasing traction on a trailer.
Ed Byrne You called it! Hehe
Kitty litter should do the trick....
Might be worth bolting done some textured rubber mats or something on the dovetail. Like a few old mud flaps or something to give something for the metal tracks to get traction on even when wet. A guys gotta have nerves of steel having a heavy machine slip and slide like that loading it on a trailer.
Had the exact same problem one time with a Komatsu 31p-20 with pyramid tracks or some call them swamp tracks in MS. Wet Wood and steel is slick sometimes.
Hey Chris get you some worn out boat trailer tires and lay them down on the wood part of ramp. But then again just something else to carry around but it sure saved me one time.
"How boutcha there driver" that gave me a laugh. I'm going to use that one on the radio at work tomorrow when I pass another mixer see if he responds lol
lol
Been there more times than I care to remember! Always carry a bucket of ag lime with me on wet days now. Works awesome 👍🏻
I don’t like ramps and beaver tails with boards. I’ve had this problem before. Now I have open slat bars for the ramps and beaver tails on trailers. A lot less trouble
Chris that is one wet slippery trailer, glad to see a video of what it really takes to get to all the jobs.
Tipped one over on a wet trailer deck, pretty exciting.
See if you can get some used belting from that gravel pit to make it easier to get on the trailer.
been there, done that, went sideways off the trailer....no harm done, just broke over the dovetail and as soon as the tracks hit square on the trailer, it slowly went sideways and off the side. unhook trailer, chain up upper track to pintle hitch, and pull back on both trax lol....boss asks me "what took you so long to move the dozer?"......weeelllllll, lemme tell you a little story lol
Metal on metal wet and slick makes for fun loading. I feel you buddy. Been there.
Weld some half inch square stock on sides of ramps it will help from sliding sideways since your ramps have wood in the middle
Amazing what the addition of a little moisture will do. Slip slidden away.
Horse stall mats work really well and hold up against the steel tracks
Old rubber tire sections for traction , problem solved. Scrap yards have all sorts of goodies, cheap. Felt your frustration Chris.
That's as good as a UA-cam notification. Everytime the mailman hits that pavement he will remember to watch the new LetsDig18 video. Thanks for all the videos Chris.
When I first started running equipment, the guy I worked far had a D6 High track slide off the trailer and almost flip. I got a roll of toilet paper out of the truck and asked him if he needed it. He didn't think it was as damn funny as all of us did.
Time to change out that dovetail for one with grip bars welded across!
A company I used to work for had a deck over like this that I refused to use due to the danger of equipment sliding off while loading or unloading. I would only use a trailer that had traction bars welded to the dovetail.
Does the Dozer make it up this time? Lol I'll watch it twice 😉 definitely feel your frustrations on slippery trailer ramps😡..Saw some scuffs on the counter weight..better buff out!!
I've had to wrap chains on the ramps before to give my machines tracks something to grab onto for traction. Just hook the chain on one side of the ramp and wrap it around and around and around until you run out and then hook that end (use a binder if you need to). Then do the same on the other ramp and drive up.
You should carry a couple of rubber conveyor belts good for wet weather loading of steel tracks.
We deal with that sliding issue in pa alot I take two chains and wrap them around each ramp a few times works like a charm if your interested in trying it
Thank goodness. I couldn't have held my breath much longer.
If you could get a chain attached to the bottom of the tracks, you might be able to just drive it on and somehow get the chain out from under the tracks afterwards.
Still amazed how fast those dump trucks of yours accelerate, especially when hauling a heavy load.
Modern automatic can out pull stick now it is more continuous in shifting plus it uses tyranny fluid tourx converter hydraulics to move and shift the truck
Call around and find some old used restaurant kitchen rubber no slip floor runners and throw them down on the ramps and deck before loading steel tracks, it works crazy good and is much safer.
I would attach some traction lugs to those ramps and dovetail.👍
Weld some rebar across your ramps!!
Chris, thanx for bringing us along buddy. I bout crapped my pants there 1 time.
Been there many times. Wood filled ramps and beaver tail just doesn’t get it with steel pads and wet wood
I worked a crash where a fella loaded his D-6 on a wet steel trailer. He said he wasn't going far so he didn't tie it down. Made the turn onto the state highway flipped the whole thing off the trailer upside down. Busted sprockets, blade rotaters busted up good.
so many comments about increasing traction, using rubber mats, old tires, weld rebar across, when really the whole problem came down to speed ... or rather a lack thereof. Next time floor it, run the dozer up the ramps at 3 to 4 times the speed and get it up there before it even has time to think about sliding sideways. Sometimes you just gotta trick the equipment a little bit. :D
Its scary in a big chunk of metal slipping and sliding along a slope. Rubber track pads help, but not in clay mub or ice.
Tie one chain across the trailer at about the top of the beaver tail and then hang two chains down the ramps from the first chain. Drive on up!
I’ve been there with my Dozer not wanting to load when very muddy or rain. Scary moments....
Well that was exciting! The dozer was not going on without a fight lol!
Elite Earthworks LLC for sure
Steel tracks on wet wood ... just like ice skating ! nice skills there driver ;)
I read some the comments.. They all do work.. But I have been there.. And the fastest cheapest way to fix that is. Big bolts screw them into the deck.. And the tracks will catch the bolt heads.. Them if any break off just replace the bolt..
Puckered enough to make a diamond out of a lump of coal?
We ended up wrapping a chain around the ramps before an hooked another chain from the rubrail across the dove tail to the other rubrail just to get some traction.
Trailer pointing a little downhill helps a bunch. Good job!
I was thinking aww Hell No !! I've done been Hacked or something....lololol... Had me Freakin" there for a min Chris !! lolol....
I'm sure "the guy" was real happy to see what happened to his property frontage. Not to mention cleating the highway.
You need two strips of conveyer belt it works ,we use them in Australia
Chris next time if trying to load in the wet bring about 6 old car tyres with you they will give you a bit more grip on the trailer deck and the tracks will grip in them.
Hahahahahaha... Wait'll Uncle John sees THIS! **giggles**
we had cleats on our trailer so even in the rain or snow you could climb on the trailer
I took old conveyor belt and bolted it on. Works wonders
I know I dont do this every day but couldnt you take the chain tie downs and stretch them across tight to hook the cleats in the tracks?
some heavy rubber mats on the ramps would come in handy or some round bar ribbs
First time I ever saw a dozer tell an operator no. LOL
In a pinch, run a few of your chains across the dovetail for additional grip as you climb it up on there. Of course cleats are in your future, I'm sure. And 4:25 "Batta Bing Batta Boom"
When I watched you back that dozer all the hell far away from the trailer I thought you were fixing to get one hell of a run up and charge at the trailer.
Butt clinching exercise , loading a steel tracked 'dozer on a steel framed trailer for sure!
wet wood trailer loool still is a butt clincher
Dammit, boy! We'll make a big truck driver out-a-you, yet!
That is a nice dozer. My uncle loves his.
WHAT, a dent in the excavator!!??
Yes Brad a dent on the counterweight i saw it to......😟
Time to bolt some wood down to the steel ramp, plywood maybe? Carry a few replacement planks in the middle of the trailer too.....
So much for that pretty green grass 🤣😂
I bet that guy was thrilled about his yard after driving back and forth and turning on it lol.
Best double-shot ive seen all Year...
I'm guessing there were fresh "button holes" pinched the the seat of the dozer! LOL!
1/2 square stock welded up the ramps and trailer...personally I like the action though so just keep on and don't worry bout it
That made me smile. We have some fairly hairy airports in NZ, with Wellington and Queenstown being top of the list. Passengers absolutely hate landing their on a windy day, but I am told by a pilot friend that the crew love it, and feel cheated out of some fun when conditions are easy. I wouldn't mind, but the fact is they do get it wrong sometimes. Too many helicopters crash in New Zealand, and I am never flying in a helicopter or seaplane again. My most terrifying experience was flying out of Picton in a seaplane. He hugs the hillside to get extra lift. I am sitting next to the pilot and can see bugger all out front, and a wall of mountain just off the wingtip. The pilot is the same height as me, so can't see anything either. A year later he flipped it landing with a tailwind in a choppy Pelorus Sound. I think the plane stayed sunk, which is good because he can't terrify anyone else now! www.stuff.co.nz/national/85065175/water-taxi-saves-pilot-after-floatplane-crash-in-marlborough-sounds
Have flown into both. Queenstown is beautiful. Did the shot over jet boat. That was awesome
Good job backing up.
Take some old mud flaps and screw fast every so often all the way up the trailer floor then if they get ripped up you just unscrew and replace. Just a suggestion
Chains and binders mounted across the deck of the trailer for traction, done it countless times.
Glad you said you are going to fix then yard, because I would be pissed if I was the home owner. Shows the quality of the guy you are.
Very wet and slippery conditions tracks slipping away Chris.....i saw a dent on the excavator on the counterweight.....😎🤔
Nice of you to prep the road shoulder for seeding - and for free, too.
I have stretched and boomed a chain across the the trailer where the tracks have something to grab without slipping.
Yes sir, I am Telling You.. it was to Slippery to load...
I have Video to Prove it and I did Not tear up the yard on purpose.!! 😱🤷🏻♂️
That old Kohring Dragline C C Magnum had in the mid 80s had Smooth
Tracks on it, NO cleats, you couldn’t load it in the drizzling rain or mud. 🌧👷♂️🛑
Rob Fraley I know what you mean ! I always load crawler machines with old conveyor belt laid out on the ramps and up onto the deck, as flat pads have only point contact where the slope of the ramp meets the level section of the deck - that’s why they slide.
Oftentimes they will go on better backwards.
Old tyres on the up ramp should do, its never easy with a damp bed 👍
U need dry mats to drive up on trailer when deck ramp is wet
Nice work. Crazy where those boogers will go on dirt and then slick up on a lil trailer