Spread Axle Cat Scale Procedure
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Spread Axle Cat Scale Procedure
The explanation of the fuel calculation is isolated to our company. There are some of you who operate under different circumstances. We use this iron we pick up. Unless we cannot stay on our schedule, we are to load the full order from the steel mill. THEN bring as much fuel on board to stay within legal parameters for gross and axle load.
Most of the comments on this video come from drivers who simply haul for other companies. We do both. But, all in-bound steel is in-house. This explanation of fuel calculation is for our drivers. Not intended for trucking companies who exclusively haul for other people/entitities. - Авто та транспорт
This helped me a lot , I scaled my first load and I had no clue what was going on . The clerk at had me go on the scale several times and the numbers were so off .
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So does the bridge law not apply to spread axel trailers? My axel is able to be moved forward or backwards for oversized loads
Bridge laws always apply UNLESS the jurisdiction makes exception. All the spread axle allows is flexibility in loading. All weight and length requirements are specific to the jurisdiction you are traveling through.
Thank you for the knowledge..
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Great video! Most helpful for us split axle guys and gals.
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Thank you sir I just started pulling flatbed and first one is split axle you helped me a ton thanks again
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It's 8 LBs per gallon....
Very informative, appreciate the content!
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Thank you so much ,sir this video really helped me and you explained it very well with out confusion,thank you sir
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Nice video on axle weights. I can imagine how many untrained people you run into on the job. In flatbed work, proper (and legal) securement is the tricky part
That is the truth! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for watching. Yes, the legal part is sometimes college-level intelligence.
You should know what you can scale with a full tank anyway so it shouldn't matter if you're fulled up or not. The scale operator was on point with his job
Thanks for watching. That's true, but NEWBS or slip seat drivers have a way to know now.
I started calling them on the phone when I pull on the scale
Thanks for watching, Ricky.
I worked for great plains.... never heard of adjusting on a scale
Don't know what you mean. Thanks for watching.
Most excellent. Thank you!
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Good stuff, thanks.
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Looking at your scale ticket most steer axle weight for states is 12000 pounds on your weight ticket before getting fuel 12200 with a quarter tank of fuel illegal in most states plus adding another 100 gallons of fuel most likely putting you overweight on steers even at 13000
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Excellent observation! HOWEVER... steers can legally run whatever weight they are rated for, and tires are rated for load, up to 20k lb. Our units' steers are rated and tire rated to 13k. The reweigh confirmed.
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Even if your tires are rated for 13000 pounds you were only 800 pounds under with a quarter of a tank when you fuel up over a 100 gallons which is more like 8 pounds a gallon you still will be overweight on steers
No, it wasn't. Reweigh confirmed.
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Great info👍
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Awesome info
Thanks, CBL! And thanks for watching.
I'm about to get back to flatbed. I'll be pulling a fixed spread axle.So this video was a gem. Thanks
Good stuff
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Don't complain
For those that dont know how far do you split the axles?
Thanks for watching. Most split axle trailers are set and can't be moved. The distance from hub to hub to be able to benefit with the 20k individual axle, is 10 ft. Anything narrower, they are treated as a standard tandem.
Does the rear axel have to stay off the scale for the first weigh? Before you adjust.
Thanks for watching... No. Your first weigh, you're only weighing steer and tandem on truck. Second position you're putting the tlr rear axle on the furthest back scale. Watch as you pull forward (in mirror) the front axle on tlr. As soon as it is on the next pad, stop. So, now your two tlr axles are on the furthest back two pads, separated. That's when the scale aster will weigh the two trailer pads. They then have four weights to add together for your gross weight. Axle, tandem tractor, front tlr, rear tlr. You get a printout with all four weights, and gross.
Thank you- like you said in this video, some scale operators do not know what they are doing. I had to pull around twice to get it, then they gave me the wrong truck ticket. It was a pain! Just making sure I wasn’t doing it wrong. I learned from your vid! Thanks!
Welll that really didnt tell you a whole lot . but so they adding the 2 trailer axles . say if the trailer axles are 41k then do those axles slide
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Why don't you use the Cat app
Hey, thanks for watching. The CAT app does not support split axle. However, if you don't need to split the trailer axles, the CAT app works just fine.
I still cant figure out what he explained . Maybe dont fill up your tanks before you know what your hauling ?
yes. say if you’re 79,800k lbs. With only a quarter of a tank . You would have to stop like every 150 miles to fill up but you can only fill up to a quarter. Any more and you’ll be over weight
About to join a company that has spread axles in a few weeks
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But your steer is over around 180 lb
Not since it's rated for 13,000.
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Your claim that diesel weighs 7 lbs per gallon in wrong. You could very easily get yourself a ticket going by that figure.
The weight depends on fuel grade. A U.S. gallon weighs 6.82-8.0 lbs.
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According to Oklahoma weights & measurements, the average weight of a gallon of diesel is 7lb.
But for the sake of argument, 100 gallons of diesel weighs, according to you, between 682lb and 800lb. A difference of 118lb. About the weight of two tie down chains. Or, about the weight of a German shepherd, or a cheerleader, or 2 bags of cattle cubes, or a 17 inch spare tire, or possibly YOUR MAMA!
If you think you need to cut your weight on an 80k load so you can get your dog on board, you're probably right. That would mean taking on 10-11 gallons less fuel to make room for YOUR MAMA!
(geez!)
@@PopsFBR you’re hilarious so you’re telling me all those years I hauled diesel I was wrong so my company and all the scales and dot was wrong.
You do know the weight and volume of diesel changes with temperature. That’s why fuel at 76 degrees weighs less than fuel at zero degrees there is no constant weight. It all depends on the specific gravity
No 1 diesel doesn’t weigh the same as no 2 and bio diesel weighs even more.
And loading with a quarter tank…some shippers won’t load you with less than half.
Maybe my 40 years of being an oo of my 42 years behind the wheel I don’t know what I’m talking about.
No, I said you were right if a driver is hauling fuel. This is FLATBED channel. Most OTR trucks dont hold more than 300 gallons, so 10 gallons measured at an average of 7 lb/gallon is probably not going to matter.
I also hauled fuel. I agree with you. But the illustration in the video is showing how to make sure you dont go over by putting too much fuel in your saddles after you're loaded. Whatever youre hauling.
Ive NEVER been checked at a loading point to see how much fuel I had. Ive hauled thousands of loads AND NEVER ONCE was checked on how much fuel was in my tank.
8 lbs per gallon is a safe number.
Wow what a waste of time, fill before you go in and never accept any weight that's going to put you over. It's as much the customers responsibility not to overload you as it is yours. ALWAYS go to a steel mill with as much fuel as you need for the trip. They will take your empty weight and load to 80k this is why they weigh you when you arrive and depart.
No need to split weight on the spread if you never load all the way to the rear Always load over the first axle With a long load it don't matter because all of the weight is going to be distributed evenly.
If you have 2 coils 1 is 29000 and the other is 12000. You load the big one centered over the front spread and the other about 4ft from front of trailer which is about center of the 5th wheel.
Or you could even belly load it with the big coil behind the center trailer light and the light one in front of it.
In 15 yrs I never done a split weight at a cat scale. and never a problem.
Rick, good info.
However, this is in regard to a load that's assigned by private company, private dispatcher, locked order. The order's weight is predetermined by a purchaser in our company who has a specific load range to buy.
Your explanation is accurate when you're doing, whatever youre doing.
We are not loading coils, either.
Thanks for watching. Stay safe.
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@@PopsFBR The coils were just an example my point was if you keep the weight centered on the front axle the weight will distribute evenly. If you put a 20 ft piece weighing 30k all the way to the back then your gonna have a problem.
And it's a shame that you have to work for somebody that doesn't take your empty vehicle weight into account before the load is booked.
Well, Rick... Thanks. You dont get it. Have a good one.
Pop
@@PopsFBR I think it's just the opposite.
Ok, Rick here's the deal.
We are a private company owned by a major manufacturing corporation. We haul the raw material from the steel suppliers to our manufacturing centers. Our purchasers know how much each truck weighs. They make a purchase of raw material according to which truck is picking it up. Each truck is equipped the same. If we show up to the steel mill and cannot on-load the order, our company sees that as inefficient. It is OUR (truck drivers') responsibility to make sure that the load of specialized raw material (steel or other) can ENTIRELY be put on the trailer. That is why we load BEFORE we fuel. We save literally hundreds of thousands of dollars because we are EXACTLY right every time we pull away from a supplier.
This is different from a trucking company who is hauling for other people. Depending on the broker or dispatcher or whomever, yes, fuel up first and tell the steel plant to not overload you. I get it. Do you get the difference between your operation and ours? Our company purchases EXACTLY what they want and know the parameters of each truck. They know the variance of fuel weight. They factor in wasted time at the truck stop fueling multiple times because we can only operate with a quarter tank. The purchasing agents in our company are responsible to ensure each load is not slowed down because of lack of planning. Telemetry tells him/her exactly where we are, and when we will arrive. It tells them how much fuel is on board also. Therefore, we DO run the tightest ship in shipping. We are NOT your typical freight hauling company.
When I said, "You don't get it." it was not intended to be derogatory toward you. I'm never derogatory. I meant that I would have to spend a half hour explaining what I just typed if I stopped my day to explain everything to you.
Your technique is right, for what you do. Your presumption that everyone does it like you do, is, frankly, wrong.
Therefore, I wish to, once again, thank you for stopping by Pop's Mother Road Flatbed Report, and commenting.
Be blessed in all you do.
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