For what it's worth, @7:30 - you have to hold down the control key while dragging the articulation to another midi note and then it does, in fact, allow you to have two midi notes for the same sound. This is also mentioned in the SSD5 user manual. No dragging in a 2nd instance whatsoever for this situation.
I love SSD5, my only complaint is the audio levels are on the low side, I have to run it through some distortion and compression to get a boost. But man it is rocking my tracks love it
I have the free version of it, and have done the mapping once and left it there. also i added samples from the "drumkit from hell" and it sounds superb after that. and that completly free.
Thanks for making this review, I was curious about it. Seems it has a nice sound, but I already use BFD for everything and the custom workflow options in SSD5 look a bit naff. Maybe next version, Mr. Slate!
Ok, now that I paid more attention to the video, you use copy paste once you have your kit mapped the way you want it. Easy. Yes, there are still some stuff we would like having like having 2 keys assigned to the same articulation/drum/cymbal.
i hate to be picky, but why does the GUI still look like a software from the 2001? as for the remapping issue, cant you remap something and use the preset save feature in studio one to keep it?
Slate seems to like the old school GUIs. I'm really not sure about saving a preset in Studio One. I personally like to audition kits and kit pieces so it becomes a total nightmare. Also, as you can see in the video, just remapping something simple requires you to drag up and down the screen so it's horrible. No MIDI learn anywhere. Don't get me wrong though, I love the drums. It's just a great product in a bad GUI.
@@CoryPelizzari its unfortunate they didn't make a better system for that. Studio one Preset saves are the way I often keep my settings for plugins that dont adequately save the functions i want. It wont make the remapping process better, but at the very least if you have something you like, you can save your various setups as presets and use those as templates if you want to make additional changes.If you click the folder/paper looking icon in the plugin window (under SSDSampler 5 in your video) it allows you to save presets that then show as expanded options in instruments browser.
I saved my kit, loaded a different one, then reloaded my kit, and ALL the maps sample maps were all set to the SAME key. Stupid. Not only that, I cannot fix it because ALL of the samples are now somehow locked together, and I cannot move only one to another key. I see Slate has not updated the software in quite a while either.
Yeah I even sent this video to Slate and it seems him and his team are just plain ol' snobs who think customer satisfaction is a myth. I swear one of these days I'm going to do a "best and worst of" for sample developers and call out everyone who undermines their customers and products.
@@CoryPelizzari I have to say, I have had some response from a support request about general things, like what's the difference between a Trigger library and an SSD library, and why will they not interchange. But this is indeed a very convoluted system, with many bugs, and I haven't found any videos from them explaining how to create a complete, robust drum kit, with multiple hit intensities and multiple mics. I have asked, and maybe the support person will have something useful, but I somewhat doubt it.
you make it sound hard. but its not the midi is easy. and if you are like me using 2 vst running same time cause x2 edrums kits and modules to get 1 kit. you name it mykit1 mykit2. then if you have another setup for like dubstep name it dubstep1 dubstep2. then if have 2 dubstep songs then change names for each set up so that way on the fly you can just bam change the preset lol. its not hard its easy. set up takes a few mins but once done its done. saved for ever lol.
I’ve been so hesitant to purchase SSD5 my guts feeling is telling me not to. There’s so small video on UA-cam about it and his website doesn’t even show enough promo. Is it worthy to purchase it? Need help
The video pretty much explains what you get - a handful of decent studio drums plus a collection of sharper rock drums useful for layering. What you're looking for in a drum sound will decide what you'll buy, but generally Superior Drummer 3 is the best sounding and best programmed library available right now for nearly any style. Have a good look at all of my drum library videos and decide what you think sounds best, then buy that.
Thanks for this. It convinced me not to upgrade. Not even for the $49 I am offered. Won’t waste my time with SSD5. Actually i haven’t even installed SSD4 on my DAW computer.
I downloaded the free version, and really can't complain for what you get. Very usable kit for some recordings. Cymbals (especially hi-hats) sound a bit stale for my taste. That and hearing all these presets in this video convinced me not to upgrade to the full version. That's a downer because the drums are superb. If there was a VST that combined Toontrack's cymbals with Slate's drums, take my money.
I always find many drum VSTi sounding aweful. I hear these drum instruments with an underlaying thonk, or boing or tonk under laying sound to them. which sounds horrible. and some out of tune which makes it worse. and dont get me started on the horrifying cymbals and crashes.... Yikes.!...
Most of them are over processed. I have ezdrummer 2 and I actually really like the variety of snare sounds and kick drums, Cymbals sound decent but the selection is very limited. But yeah, toms are boing city. No way of reversing it either, unless you use the vintage kit preset.
Just read a SOS article that says always turn off the bleed for better drums. All these videos contradict. Pointless. Just do it and learn as you go. Forget this junk.
According to the website, SSD 5.5 has a Midi learn function now :)
For what it's worth, @7:30 - you have to hold down the control key while dragging the articulation to another midi note and then it does, in fact, allow you to have two midi notes for the same sound. This is also mentioned in the SSD5 user manual. No dragging in a 2nd instance whatsoever for this situation.
I find the hats and crashes never feel real to me on open beats the hats always sounds clunky and bashy.
I love SSD5, my only complaint is the audio levels are on the low side, I have to run it through some distortion and compression to get a boost. But man it is rocking my tracks love it
Awesome video, thanks for letting us know about Free Notemapper, the ride is gonna be awesome.
I can't get Notemapper to work in Studio One 4.5.2 !
I have the free version of it, and have done the mapping once and left it there. also i added samples from the "drumkit from hell" and it sounds superb after that. and that completly free.
How did you add samples from drumkit from hell to ssd5? I tried to add some samples from progressive pack by rendering it to wav
5:55 exactly why I'm looking at new drum software.
Thank you, very useful review
Thanks for the notemapper plugin tip
Thanks for making this review, I was curious about it.
Seems it has a nice sound, but I already use BFD for everything and the custom workflow options in SSD5 look a bit naff. Maybe next version, Mr. Slate!
Wow, I haven't heard "naff" used in a long time. Kudos.
@@CoryPelizzari I haven't heard anybody say "kudos" in years. Far out!
(Awaits next guy...)
@@Skizane Radical.
@@CoryPelizzari Tubular.
@@Skizane Groovy.
Ok, now that I paid more attention to the video, you use copy paste once you have your kit mapped the way you want it. Easy. Yes, there are still some stuff we would like having like having 2 keys assigned to the same articulation/drum/cymbal.
Awesome thanks for the NoteMapper tip!
i hate to be picky, but why does the GUI still look like a software from the 2001? as for the remapping issue, cant you remap something and use the preset save feature in studio one to keep it?
Slate seems to like the old school GUIs. I'm really not sure about saving a preset in Studio One. I personally like to audition kits and kit pieces so it becomes a total nightmare. Also, as you can see in the video, just remapping something simple requires you to drag up and down the screen so it's horrible. No MIDI learn anywhere. Don't get me wrong though, I love the drums. It's just a great product in a bad GUI.
@@CoryPelizzari its unfortunate they didn't make a better system for that. Studio one Preset saves are the way I often keep my settings for plugins that dont adequately save the functions i want. It wont make the remapping process better, but at the very least if you have something you like, you can save your various setups as presets and use those as templates if you want to make additional changes.If you click the folder/paper looking icon in the plugin window (under SSDSampler 5 in your video) it allows you to save presets that then show as expanded options in instruments browser.
when its free do you really care ?
and if anyone knows just a lil about programming you know you can customize the gui ?
I saved my kit, loaded a different one, then reloaded my kit, and ALL the maps sample maps were all set to the SAME key. Stupid. Not only that, I cannot fix it because ALL of the samples are now somehow locked together, and I cannot move only one to another key.
I see Slate has not updated the software in quite a while either.
Yeah I even sent this video to Slate and it seems him and his team are just plain ol' snobs who think customer satisfaction is a myth. I swear one of these days I'm going to do a "best and worst of" for sample developers and call out everyone who undermines their customers and products.
@@CoryPelizzari I have to say, I have had some response from a support request about general things, like what's the difference between a Trigger library and an SSD library, and why will they not interchange.
But this is indeed a very convoluted system, with many bugs, and I haven't found any videos from them explaining how to create a complete, robust drum kit, with multiple hit intensities and multiple mics. I have asked, and maybe the support person will have something useful, but I somewhat doubt it.
@@CoryPelizzari I mean, really, why is there not a "Load Kit" button? So strange, their interface.
@@lahattec If you want a more custom set up with control over velocity zones, mic routing and custom samples, Superior Drummer 3 is the way to go.
@@CoryPelizzari Thanks Cory.
you make it sound hard. but its not the midi is easy. and if you are like me using 2 vst running same time cause x2 edrums kits and modules to get 1 kit. you name it mykit1 mykit2. then if you have another setup for like dubstep name it dubstep1 dubstep2. then if have 2 dubstep songs then change names for each set up so that way on the fly you can just bam change the preset lol. its not hard its easy. set up takes a few mins but once done its done. saved for ever lol.
I’ve been so hesitant to purchase SSD5 my guts feeling is telling me not to. There’s so small video on UA-cam about it and his website doesn’t even show enough promo. Is it worthy to purchase it? Need help
The video pretty much explains what you get - a handful of decent studio drums plus a collection of sharper rock drums useful for layering. What you're looking for in a drum sound will decide what you'll buy, but generally Superior Drummer 3 is the best sounding and best programmed library available right now for nearly any style. Have a good look at all of my drum library videos and decide what you think sounds best, then buy that.
Cory Pelizzari thanks
Thanks for this. It convinced me not to upgrade. Not even for the $49 I am offered. Won’t waste my time with SSD5. Actually
i haven’t even installed SSD4 on my DAW computer.
I downloaded the free version, and really can't complain for what you get. Very usable kit for some recordings. Cymbals (especially hi-hats) sound a bit stale for my taste. That and hearing all these presets in this video convinced me not to upgrade to the full version. That's a downer because the drums are superb. If there was a VST that combined Toontrack's cymbals with Slate's drums, take my money.
Nvm, it copies also the kit... sigh...
Yup.
Still sounds very cold and plastic to my ears. And the GUI is the worst I've seen. I think you should try Superior Drummer 3 if you havn't already?!
Already did a video on SD3.
the mapping is even worse in 5 than it was in 4, in 4 you could map articulations from Edit Instrument screen 🤦♂️
I always find many drum VSTi sounding aweful. I hear these drum instruments with an underlaying thonk, or boing or tonk under laying sound to them.
which sounds horrible. and some out of tune which makes it worse. and dont get me started on the horrifying cymbals and crashes.... Yikes.!...
Most of them are over processed. I have ezdrummer 2 and I actually really like the variety of snare sounds and kick drums, Cymbals sound decent but the selection is very limited. But yeah, toms are boing city. No way of reversing it either, unless you use the vintage kit preset.
Just read a SOS article that says always turn off the bleed for better drums. All these videos contradict. Pointless. Just do it and learn as you go. Forget this junk.
Cymbals are horrible.
Totaly agree... The cymbals are horrible!
No hi-hat control, no thanks