you poor soul... but then again when you're a kid any version of a coin op was fun. I loved the atari version of Pac-Man at age 3 even after I played the coin op. Kinda miss that mind set :)
Wah Wish You Wah !! 1:34 to 2:23 "the worst" battle with Karnov ever seen. And I mean... ever !! You do not try to jumo over Karnov, you are supposed to go up and down while hitting him with your super charged punch. Damn!! he, he, he, I'm sorry but I had to say it.
I would have loved to do that but the problem is with the size of the video. it would have doubled the size of the video itself. I generally find that most visual & audio differences can be demonstrated well in the 1st level. Plus ! It helps to inspire people to play these old games again to see what they are missing. ^_^ Thanks for the comment
It seems like Atari and Amiga did a pretty good port for the time, but the Atari was too slow and the Amiga was too fast. Also, it would have been better to not try to add the music at all.
Thanks ! :) I'm glad You are enjoying them. Also ! If You so choose You are free to download them & keep them for Your collection. I have been told By one guy that He uses these videos in His mame cab. Witch I found very humbling to say the least. I'm glad that so many people enjoy these videos & that is what keeps me going. :)
@@mastersproutgamer9327 I forgive you. I'm still working 12 hrs a day. 6 days a week. Between work & life I have little time. Even now I'm writing this on my lunch break. -_-
@@mastersproutgamer9327 Umm .. He's not a partner. But I do respect him greatly as a creator. I'm not sure what is going on with him .. I haven't had a lot of time to enjoy anything lately. :( But I wish him the best !
This game had it all. Ninjas, nunchucks, a mission to rescue the president from said ninjas and a bad dude in sweat pants, a black tank top, chucks and fingerless gloves and to top it off you get the "I'm Bad!" at the end of the stage. Priceless.
Please do a KARNOV comparison whenever you can. Actually the 1st boss in Dragon Ninja, called Burnov, is inspired from the Karnov game. Thanks and keep up the great work! :)
I spilt Lucozade on my C64 cassette. It still loaded but somehow I could jump/leap through the levels without dying. Still have it in the attic somewhere!
The Nes version i always thought was the best Home version to be released it was fast paced very playable the graphics was about as good as what the Nes could handle still a good game to play i think.....another top upload man.
Quite fun, but I have to know... why is Karnov grey in the MS-DOS version? I only played the NES version (loved it) so seeing these others is quite nice. Do you know if the other versions had the charge punch that the NES version did? I thought I saw it on the Atari ST version (which also has some moves the NES one didn't) and the Amiga version too.
not sure. I used 4 different versions of the emulator & 5 versions of the software but none of them had the music. Not sure why. This video was a 6 month process because of several problems like this. :(
I had the ST version, it was the first game of its type I beat with one credit without cheats/extra credits. I liked the game very much and it was one of the best arcade conversions for the ST. The problem was with the SLOW ASS scrolling and it was factor even then. Still, IMO it was the best version (other than the Arcade of course). Which is something not often said about the ST.
Arcade: It's the original Apple II: It's bad MSX: It's badder. ZX Spectrum: It's smoother than the last one. Amstrad: It's unpleasant. MS-DOS: It's crazy! Commodore 64: It's got bad hit detection. NES: It's got better music. Atari ST: It's slow Amiga: It's the winner!
LOL I just came here to hear that NES "I'M BAD" all over again. It must have been funny back then with the system limitations. What did the devs think after they played back that sound bite. "Good enough!" lol.
I'm a bit disappointed that the Amiga version is running on 512KB RAM and not 1MB. the extra RAM enables music during the stage and brings back the female ninjas also, unlike the arcade version, you can use the fire punch while walking.
Cool game, but the title sounds too childish (but then again it's from the 80's :D). You have a nice little thing going here with your "Let's Compares", I'm gonna go through your channel and look for some more games I like :)
The NES seems to be the lesser evil. Graphics are acceptable. While it lacks the color of the arcade and some ports, the characters looks nice enough and you can tell things apart. Gameplay is choppy but playable. The movements are rough and the NES has trouble processing the sprites without constant fading. However, the pace is ok and the controls seem more intuitive than most of the other ports. Audio is great. The music is arguably better than even the original arcade, let alone the fact that most of the ports don't even HAVE music. The only real downside is that it's 8-bit so it wouldn't fit with the nicer graphics of the arcade port.
non avevo mai visto la versione per nes...non è affatto male!! discreta la versione amiga e non male quella per c64 anche se aveva problemi di collisione sprite...per il resto buio completo
I wonder why the ST coders for games like this didn't render the extra soft sprites every other frame. This would have introduced flicker, but made the games much more playable and let the CPU catch up.
I remember when I bought a used Amiga 500, this was the first game I played, Amiga and Atari ST version was the closest to the arcade version, in fact those are the only three versions that were far better than the other, Atari ST version is the same as but slower for the Amiga, Apple 2 version is a shame, poor graphics and physics, MSX and Spectrum versions were too bad, the rest is not bad, I prefer the Amiga version because it has the best music
The st/amiga versions looked almost arcade perfect in static screenshots....then you played them. The st one was stupidly slow and the amiga one was just a very slightly faster st port. There was a bit where you had to jump between train carriages, and the input lag made it almost impossible to time the jump. The nes port doesnt look to shabby, and the speccy version is ok, but the apple 2 version looks really poor, who would play that flickery mess? There is a sharp x68000 version thats almost arcade perfect (like a lot of 80`s arcade games ported to it). This is a game best enjoyed in an arcade or with mame, pretty much all the home conversions outside Japan were sub-par.
Too bad you didn't use power punch when playing arcade. It sounds really cool. "Hot...yeaaah!!". C64 version had good music but very bad gameplay as hitboxes really sucked. Music on Amiga was awesome and it was a good challenge to get it through to the end.
Hows the AMIGA the winner? I know we don't count the arcade in the wars but the AMIGA is a crap ST Port sped up too fast making it almost unplayable with no music. ST I think is the winner on this one. It's got the music and plays better although could use a little speed up like the AMIGA di on it's ST Port but not as fast.
We can all agree that Commodore 64 version is the best all around. Love the hi-res sprites (they pulled off the main character PLUS the enemies (!)), the music (how did they manage to do this I do not know), fluid movements (even better than arcade) and overall delivery. Even better than 16 bit Amiga. Also, I believe it was dubbed 'Dragon Ninja' for c64 as well.
Most of the characters in the c64 version use redefined keyboard characters with high res single color sprites. Thats why the moving graphics are so sketchy,... it moves part of the images 8 pixels at a time and other parts 1 pixel at a time.
Had this on my Speccy, C64 and Amiga. Also wasted hours on the arcade machine lol. The collision detection was awful on 8-Bit! The Amiga version was ok.
ain't that the truth !? Imagine My suprise when I got on the internet for the 1st time & started learning about the hidden history I was not taught about in school & realizing that 95% of what I learned was doctored or completely inaccurate from the moment I 1st learned it.
Where did my original comment go lol? Anyways I can agree about loading times, but that is pretty much all there is for the NES version, sorry. I mean look at how jerky everything looks and moves in the NES version. And now compare to C64 version - the superior soundtrack, bass sound, even graphically it looks way more polished and overall plays better and smoother than NES and all the other versions.
The NES version plays like the arcade game, in both pacing and controls. The twtichy animation and inaccurate controls take the fun out of the game. And I don't see how the C64 soundtrack is superior, seeing as its not even using the right music. I'm guessing your also in the delusional "The Amiga version of MK1 is better than the Genesis version!" camp too.
I am not knowledgable about Mortal Kombat cause I never was a huge fan of it. I do have a strong C64 bias as far as 8bit is concerned, but I am also a huge Nintendo fan so if anything, I should be in the 'NES version is better' camp, but in this specific example I am not. I made a side by side screenshot to better understand my view: i.imgur.com/U7aX28M.png - the overall graphical art direction, the choice of colors and illusion of depth is way better done in C64 version. In NES version the graphic patterns are all over the place, it is a mess to look at, and the music is 'pointy', in lack of better words. The C64 soundtrack has depth in bass and sound quality, nicer to listen at while playing.
![[TAS] Bad Dudes vs. Dragonninja (ARCADE) in 12:03 / Production 2023](/img/n.gif)
LMAO @ The Apple ][ version... Why did they even bother?
TheDemoniusX I had it on Apple II as a kid. Hot garbage.
you poor soul... but then again when you're a kid any version of a coin op was fun. I loved the atari version of Pac-Man at age 3 even after I played the coin op. Kinda miss that mind set :)
ha ha. I would love to see that!
You have to fight Karnov! lmao.
Timeless quote: "I'm bad."
As of writing this, 7 dudes are not bad enought to rescue Ronnie.
15 as of now. Getting soft, I see.
Wah Wish You Wah !!
1:34 to 2:23 "the worst" battle with Karnov ever seen.
And I mean... ever !!
You do not try to jumo over Karnov, you are supposed to go up and down while hitting him with your super charged punch.
Damn!! he, he, he, I'm sorry but I had to say it.
Also i love how you just decided to throw Knees through out the ZXspectrum version LOL
the president was kidnapped. do we send the army? delta force? marines? NO! we send two dudes that punch an kick.
Nobody can handle an army of ninjas like Blade and Striker can.
1:34 Karnov is everywhere!
I built an Arcade cab with JL Audio equipment, I love how this game sounds on it.
I would have loved to do that but the problem is with the size of the video. it would have doubled the size of the video itself. I generally find that most visual & audio differences can be demonstrated well in the 1st level. Plus ! It helps to inspire people to play these old games again to see what they are missing. ^_^ Thanks for the comment
Heeey, where's the music in the Amiga version? The one I played HAD music!
It seems like Atari and Amiga did a pretty good port for the time, but the Atari was too slow and the Amiga was too fast. Also, it would have been better to not try to add the music at all.
If not for the choppy scrolling, the NES port would be the best port overall.
hell no. lol.
@@ChickenMcThiccken hell yes
the amiga version has even a multi scrolling in stage 2 that the arcade version doesn't have !!!
If only Data East hired Technōs Japan to design the NES/Famicom versions of Bad Dudes.
I always laugh when I hear "I'm bad". LOL
Have been looking into that one. Currently hitting a few road blocks but I am working on it.
The MSX could've handled so much more. "What a shame."
Thanks ! :) I'm glad You are enjoying them. Also ! If You so choose You are free to download them & keep them for Your collection. I have been told By one guy that He uses these videos in His mame cab. Witch I found very humbling to say the least. I'm glad that so many people enjoy these videos & that is what keeps me going. :)
@@mastersproutgamer9327 Awww, come on man... don't .. just don't ..... Don't be "That guy." It's embarrassing to you.
@@mastersproutgamer9327 I forgive you. I'm still working 12 hrs a day. 6 days a week. Between work & life I have little time. Even now I'm writing this on my lunch break. -_-
@@mastersproutgamer9327 Umm .. He's not a partner. But I do respect him greatly as a creator. I'm not sure what is going on with him .. I haven't had a lot of time to enjoy anything lately. :( But I wish him the best !
@@GamingHistorySource Hey, what about me? Am I a sweet, sweet girl?
good stuff, but arcades are always better.
1. Arcade 0:30
2. Apple 2 2:34
3. MSX 3:53
4. ZX Spectrum 5:41
5. Amstrad 7:26
6. MS DOS 9:14
7. Commodore 64 10:44
8. Nintendo Entertainment System 12:31
9. Atari ST 14:20
10. Amiga 16:08
Credits 17:54
I just want to hear the overpowered "I'm bad!" on the NES version.
The intro in the Amiga version is like the dude has a machine gun mouth shooting out the letters.
Haztartasi keksz rotfl 😂
I always loved the music in level 2.
LOL at the Amstrad's "i'm Bad!"!
This game had it all. Ninjas, nunchucks, a mission to rescue the president from said ninjas and a bad dude in sweat pants, a black tank top, chucks and fingerless gloves and to top it off you get the "I'm Bad!" at the end of the stage. Priceless.
Amiga version had music during levels, there was something wrong with this part
+laxiton Only if you had 1mb of RAM
In fact EXCELLENT music
Funny You mentioned that one.I am actually looking into the ports now.
Please do a KARNOV comparison whenever you can.
Actually the 1st boss in Dragon Ninja, called Burnov, is inspired from the Karnov game.
Thanks and keep up the great work! :)
"I'M BAD!"
I spilt Lucozade on my C64 cassette.
It still loaded but somehow I could jump/leap through the levels without dying. Still have it in the attic somewhere!
The C64 version had a multiload, so you could just let the tape run and it'd let you skip through the levels.
The Nes version i always thought was the best Home version to be released it was fast paced very playable the graphics was about as good as what the Nes could handle still a good game to play i think.....another top upload man.
Loved the speccy version of this. The 128k game also had some brilliant music on the front end.
@newsbenderii You expect someone to reply to you after 6 years?
Does he always say "I'm bad!" every time you beat a boss at the end of a level?
Good Comparison! I like the Original Arcade and NES Port of this Game! Did you do one with Killer Instinct?
Quite fun, but I have to know... why is Karnov grey in the MS-DOS version? I only played the NES version (loved it) so seeing these others is quite nice. Do you know if the other versions had the charge punch that the NES version did? I thought I saw it on the Atari ST version (which also has some moves the NES one didn't) and the Amiga version too.
I would like to see a comparison on the arcade game Mappy from Namco please.
not sure. I used 4 different versions of the emulator & 5 versions of the software but none of them had the music. Not sure why. This video was a 6 month process because of several problems like this. :(
Awesome videos always :)
Nice Music At Starting.
fixed ! Thanks !
It's Karnov!! I or my brother lent out my NES copy of Karnov to a friend and guess what i never saw it ever again. I will never forget that
the amstrad cpc version is legendary ! :)
+abc def : a medice to fight the c64 cancer of wubbishness :)
Hell no, he plays with cheat on (illimited energy) cause amstrad version is unplayable
I had the ST version, it was the first game of its type I beat with one credit without cheats/extra credits.
I liked the game very much and it was one of the best arcade conversions for the ST.
The problem was with the SLOW ASS scrolling and it was factor even then. Still, IMO it was the best version (other than the Arcade of course). Which is something not often said about the ST.
I would like to but there is footage that I can't get. But That one has come to mind. I haven't given up on it but right not it isn't possible. :(
This reminds a lot of Rastan II...the Music and sound effects for the acrade that is.
I remember my elder bro playing and loosing on Amstrad CPC 6128 !
Were they all missing 2 player feature?
I don't think there are enough ports of KI to do a comparison. :(
Well, it's more the people saying it than the technology itself. The voice sounds clean.
They all had the charge punch but the speed of the game really determined if I used it or not. :)
Now that I look at the two side by side, I think I can see what you're on about. My mistake.
whats the music in the beginning
16:08 - Col. Flattop McMachinegunLips, reporting for duty!
16:20 - Hot duhhhr!
The Amiga version was pretty faithful to the original but played a bit too fast and lacked ingame music (except for bosses)
I'd like to see a sequel. Even in their 50's, these guys'd be "BAD" asses...
It would be a short game. The president is Joey and the dudes would just look at each other and say FJB.
Arcade: It's the original
Apple II: It's bad
MSX: It's badder.
ZX Spectrum: It's smoother than the last one.
Amstrad: It's unpleasant.
MS-DOS: It's crazy!
Commodore 64: It's got bad hit detection.
NES: It's got better music.
Atari ST: It's slow
Amiga: It's the winner!
Apple 2.... just..... why....???
LOL I just came here to hear that NES "I'M BAD" all over again. It must have been funny back then with the system limitations. What did the devs think after they played back that sound bite. "Good enough!" lol.
Is Karnov flipping you the bird in the Amstrad version?
I'm a bit disappointed that the Amiga version is running on 512KB RAM and not 1MB. the extra RAM enables music during the stage and brings back the female ninjas also, unlike the arcade version, you can use the fire punch while walking.
I was wondering if you could do Russian Attack that would be AWESOME
How come none of the home consoles could make Bad Dudes two player like it was in the arcade?
Some are 2 players.
It's out on Switch now
Love this game.
Tnaks for the video!!
I can look into it. Only problem is that UA-cam is so anal about copyright they may try to block it.
Cool game, but the title sounds too childish (but then again it's from the 80's :D). You have a nice little thing going here with your "Let's Compares", I'm gonna go through your channel and look for some more games I like :)
Why is there no music on the Amiga?
The atari st and amiga versions look the best to me. The nintendo version was just as awesome.
all these videos and no fire punch???
Nonsense !! You can never have too many ninjas ! ^_^ lol
Oh btw your Amiga link in this game should be 16:08 ;)
atari st too slow and amiga too fast.
The Amstrad CPC version uses an invincibility cheat...
The NES seems to be the lesser evil.
Graphics are acceptable. While it lacks the color of the arcade and some ports, the characters looks nice enough and you can tell things apart.
Gameplay is choppy but playable. The movements are rough and the NES has trouble processing the sprites without constant fading. However, the pace is ok and the controls seem more intuitive than most of the other ports.
Audio is great. The music is arguably better than even the original arcade, let alone the fact that most of the ports don't even HAVE music. The only real downside is that it's 8-bit so it wouldn't fit with the nicer graphics of the arcade port.
+dudejo Better music than the arcade??! Granted the NES version is pretty good but soundwise, it cannot beat the arcade with its excellent tunes.
MEGAMIGA
To me, the arcade version sounds like some generic MS-DOS game.
Interesting view.
Arcade FTW (especially the Japanese version)!!
What's so special about the NTSCJ version?
Bart Smith It has a better ending and better voice acting.
amiga version normally has some nice music along with those sound effects
non avevo mai visto la versione per nes...non è affatto male!! discreta la versione amiga e non male quella per c64 anche se aveva problemi di collisione sprite...per il resto buio completo
Atari ST is the best-looking home version (non-arcade), but dat framerate's slow AF. Commodore 64 version looks surprisingly great.
I wonder why the ST coders for games like this didn't render the extra soft sprites every other frame. This would have introduced flicker, but made the games much more playable and let the CPU catch up.
I remember when I bought a used Amiga 500, this was the first game I played, Amiga and Atari ST version was the closest to the arcade version, in fact those are the only three versions that were far better than the other, Atari ST version is the same as but slower for the Amiga, Apple 2 version is a shame, poor graphics and physics, MSX and Spectrum versions were too bad, the rest is not bad, I prefer the Amiga version because it has the best music
The st/amiga versions looked almost arcade perfect in static screenshots....then you played them. The st one was stupidly slow and the amiga one was just a very slightly faster st port. There was a bit where you had to jump between train carriages, and the input lag made it almost impossible to time the jump.
The nes port doesnt look to shabby, and the speccy version is ok, but the apple 2 version looks really poor, who would play that flickery mess?
There is a sharp x68000 version thats almost arcade perfect (like a lot of 80`s arcade games ported to it). This is a game best enjoyed in an arcade or with mame, pretty much all the home conversions outside Japan were sub-par.
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Too bad you didn't use power punch when playing arcade. It sounds really cool. "Hot...yeaaah!!". C64 version had good music but very bad gameplay as hitboxes really sucked. Music on Amiga was awesome and it was a good challenge to get it through to the end.
SIN DUDA UNOS DE LOS MEJORES JUEGOS Y MEJOR MUSICA AUN EN ESTE TIEMPO ME GUSTA SU MUSICA. (La version Nintendo
lol yeah.. but at least they made an attempt at it. :)
Hows the AMIGA the winner? I know we don't count the arcade in the wars but the AMIGA is a crap ST Port sped up too fast making it almost unplayable with no music.
ST I think is the winner on this one. It's got the music and plays better although could use a little speed up like the AMIGA di on it's ST Port but not as fast.
We can all agree that Commodore 64 version is the best all around. Love the hi-res sprites (they pulled off the main character PLUS the enemies (!)), the music (how did they manage to do this I do not know), fluid movements (even better than arcade) and overall delivery. Even better than 16 bit Amiga. Also, I believe it was dubbed 'Dragon Ninja' for c64 as well.
Most of the characters in the c64 version use redefined keyboard characters with high res single color sprites.
Thats why the moving graphics are so sketchy,... it moves part of the images 8 pixels at a time and other parts 1 pixel at a time.
Had this on my Speccy, C64 and Amiga. Also wasted hours on the arcade machine lol.
The collision detection was awful on 8-Bit!
The Amiga version was ok.
Yes... The graphics of the C64 were good, but the collision detection was a real knightmare. A real shame... This version could be much better.
Cook cook cook I'm Bad!
ain't that the truth !? Imagine My suprise when I got on the internet for the 1st time & started learning about the hidden history I was not taught about in school & realizing that 95% of what I learned was doctored or completely inaccurate from the moment I 1st learned it.
i need to get my apple 2 copy of this lol
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Its like the NES version is the only one that isn't a trainwreck.
lol, actually no. NES is as trainwreckish as every other (apple II, Atari and Amiga). C64 is the best one.
Where did my original comment go lol? Anyways I can agree about loading times, but that is pretty much all there is for the NES version, sorry. I mean look at how jerky everything looks and moves in the NES version. And now compare to C64 version - the superior soundtrack, bass sound, even graphically it looks way more polished and overall plays better and smoother than NES and all the other versions.
The NES version plays like the arcade game, in both pacing and controls. The twtichy animation and inaccurate controls take the fun out of the game. And I don't see how the C64 soundtrack is superior, seeing as its not even using the right music. I'm guessing your also in the delusional "The Amiga version of MK1 is better than the Genesis version!" camp too.
I am not knowledgable about Mortal Kombat cause I never was a huge fan of it. I do have a strong C64 bias as far as 8bit is concerned, but I am also a huge Nintendo fan so if anything, I should be in the 'NES version is better' camp, but in this specific example I am not. I made a side by side screenshot to better understand my view: i.imgur.com/U7aX28M.png - the overall graphical art direction, the choice of colors and illusion of depth is way better done in C64 version. In NES version the graphic patterns are all over the place, it is a mess to look at, and the music is 'pointy', in lack of better words. The C64 soundtrack has depth in bass and sound quality, nicer to listen at while playing.
No account for taste.
C64, decent
NES, good
Spectrum, horrible
MSX, port of Spectrum... again
Amstrad, spartan
Apple II, Was that machine really worth $ 2638?
I really loved the Speccy but, being a far superior machine, I hated those stupid MSX conversions. They were pretty unfair...
Amiga is the best overall and Amstrad the best 8-bit port. Lol @ Spectrum ...
Arcade version the best of course but Amiga version good too other version are very bad
The MS DOS version is hilarious. Everyone moves like they're on crack.
Yeah, it looks like it's running at the wrong speed
Dragon Ninja?
The last boss is called Dragon Ninja.