35mm Home Cinema Make-up, Projection & Break-down of “Casper”
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- In this video, I assemble a 35mm print of 'Casper' on the Tower and project it through the Kinoton projector in the Home Cinema. Afterwards, the film is then broken-down back into it's individual reels ready for the next time.
35mm is a lot of fun. I knew nothing about big projectors before I got into it. I like to sit next to the projector and just watch it run.
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@Dwayne Issac yup, have been watching on flixzone for since november myself :)
@@dwayneissac2302 you missed the point of all this...
Brit here. I shed a tear. Oh, the memories.
This is crazy impressive. The only time I saw CASPER on 35mm was on my 10th birthday (15th September, 1995) at Theatre One in Coventry. Used to work at the ODEON Skydome from 2004-2008, and almost all the films they played were 35mm too. Crazy how quickly cinemas opted for digital, reducing them to nothing more than giant TV screens. Digital has some major advantages, but still really happy to see people preserve the history of the artform.
I agree. Whilst I use a digital projector at the cinema I work at, it isn’t as exciting.
Your almost right about digital being nothing more than watching a giant TV screen, but it does still include actual projection - until now. I was dismayed to learn that a new cinema opened in Sydney recently here in Australia where there is no projection. What??? The screen is a giant Samsung LED screen. So you really are watching a giant TV screen. Of course it was accompanied by blurb about better black levels and increased brightness. But this is crazy, who wants to sit there and look at a giant illuminated bill board. Sad times indeed.
@@raywatts7689 That sounds like the death of cinema :(
Cinemas use 2k projectors (which is a beefed-up higher spec version of the A/V projectors you can hook up to a laptop or blu ray)
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Love it.There was nothing like going to the movies as a kid, and watching direct 35mm film being projected on the screen.Back in the day,it was the best picture quality around.
I miss threading 35mm. 20ish years ago I did projection for AMC theaters and I loved working with the film. I personally own a insanely large 16mm collection but its not the same as threading 35mm.
At least it’s still film... much more fun than sticking a DVD on regardless of the size of gauge :)
@@Reel35 Totally true, not that I have much time to watch any of the films. I am too busy cashing in on the growing favoritism of film photography. I own and operate a popular film lab online and we develop a ton of film weekly.
Wow, that “no smoking” ad at the start of the movie triggered a flashback! I had even said “thank you for your cooperation” before she did! 😂
This is the very first time I have ever seen the process done. Not only did I enjoy seeing the process but the movie with it was golden.So glad I watched this…thank you
I call this labour of love, excellent set up of 35mm projection system
Thank you :)
I was a projectionist from 1995 to 2000, and it was such a fun job. Got payed terribly, but it was like magic. I still have old 35mm movie trailers in my closet from those days. Digital projection is amazing but I have to say, 35mm just looks better somehow.
Nothing can beat the look and sound of a 35mm print. Digital projection is ok - it offers more flexibility with live events and other sources - but isn’t as fun to show :)
GASP!!! Someone that knows how to thread a Kinoton the right way!!
Ha! To be honest, I’m not a fan of the Kinoton threading … took a while to understand it back in the day and even longer recently after 10 years of not using it! Thankfully FilmTech forums reminded me of some tips! I always preferred the Westar/Westrex lace up method
Very nice set up. Use to have a print of Casper, regretting selling it now as I'm getting back into 35mm. Just on with rebuilding a Philips FP3 portable.
Thank you :)
The only time The Video Store Review saw "Casper" on a 35mm filmstrip was on September 15, 1995, at Conventry's Theater One, on his 10th birthday. He used to work at the Odeon Skydome from 2004-2008, and almost all of the movies they projected were also on a 35mm filmstrip. Seeing how movie theatres adopted digital projection, reducing them to nothing than giant TV screens, is crazy! Digital projection has some major advantages over film, but however, he is still happy to see people like you, preserve the history of the artform of 35mm filmstrips.
Really nice - brings back memories seeing those BBFC cards and UIP logos! Used to love using day titles and snipes too, I used to have a PLEASE PUT YOUR LITTER IN THE BIN snipe with that lady's voice on! Ran Casper myself back in the day - it came out Summer 95, they'd no doubt have capitalised on the October half term for Halloween nowadays... ! I believe Pearl and Dean were still using the Asteroid titles in 1995 however for that bit of authenticity!
Thanks :). I’ve not seen the one about the litter, but years ago we had the US version of the same smoking trailer. But it used quite a gruff deep male voice which sort of scared the kids I think!! I have an opening and closer for P&D asteroid, just before the updated them to the newer one.
@@Reel35 Yes, I know the one, they remastered it around 94/95 and made the blues less grainy, and gave it a Dolby SR track. I believe it was in a true widescreen frame rather than an open matte like it had been since the 70s also. Ironic really as it was replaced just a year later.... Those trailers were normally from companies like Jacro in the UK, they sold a lot of US imports. I didn't use them for long, we had previously used the Daters and Super Daters by Cinema Concepts (usually bought from Omnex), and we finished up with a nice set made with UK terms in mind from Sound Associates! Am sure they are still in storage somewhere!
We used Jackroe for our supplies too (back in the day). They still do some 35mm items, but mainly focus now on box office software for cinemas. I loved the old Cinema Concepts daters, especially the Space Marquee ones. We didn’t have them, but I always remember them being shown at the local ‘MGM’ multiplex (I think formally called Cannon). Always keeping an eye out for a copy of that one. I’m just about to upload a vid on old trailers which have a few of the other cinema concepts idents (Movie Magic).
@@Reel35 The Space Marquee ones were called Dyna Daters and called SUPER DATERS in the UK, as opposed to 'Daters' which were what in the states was known as the Ultra Dater I believe. They were still available until the end of 35mm from suppliers. I'd like to have kept using them, but when we had to introduce the Mobile Phone Policy in the noughties, we got a whole new range (without Americanisms) from Sound Associates, as the Super Dater unfortunately did not do a mobile phone policy and I being fussy didn't want a mix and match of styles. The Space Marquee Super Daters also were printed on acetate and tended to get very brittle and scratch easily, a lot of ours had lovely green lines on them in the end! I used the Super Dater as a 'bookend' - so after the ads the COMING SOON to start the trailers would be a Super Dater, as would the FEATURE PRESENTATION to introduce the film (albeit that was mostly replaced with the Filmack 'PRESENTED IN DOLBY STEREO from the early 90s), and I would use the short snappy Dater (aka Ultra Dater) in between for things like STARTS FRIDAY and COMING FOR SUMMER/CHRISTMAS as it got a bit repetitive with sound and vision otherwise. I did buy a few STARTS FRIDAY in Super Dater style for the odd 'U' film that didn't have a big choice of trailers to show before it and maybe only had a Starts Friday, so for that and any film that only had a Starts Friday and no Coming Soons (albeit rare) the Super Dater style would be used. It must have been the MGM days that used them, as Cannon always used their film intro logo for every single message and snipe. I am surprised a company like MGM didn't have personalised ones however...
this Is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
Thank you 👍
@@Reel35 GREAT video! Thank you for posting ...
I wonder can you tell me please
1 why did the upper reel have the off balance when setting up and breaking down the movie?
2 How did you find the exact spot for the splice ( Is it easy to see when braking down the film ?
3 at 8:40 there was a peice of paper ( It seems in the reel ) what was that for
Hi, thank you!
For your first question, are you referring to the smaller reel? That is a spooling off plate which each reel of the feature is wound off onto the main bottom reel and back up again when breaking down.
Your other two questions are actually related. So, to find the exact location of a reel join I use bits of paper to identify its position. This is the paper you see at 8:40. When the spliced join goes through the projector, I place a small bit of paper on the take up reel. This means that when breaking down, I can easily identify the location of the join.
Hope this helps :)
@@Reel35 Thank you for answering ... Yes Sir, I was referring to the smaller reel ..Without that paper in the reel I can only imagine finding the splice is like finding a need in a haystack..
That was a really cool setup you have and a really well done video.
The editing was on point. Great pacing and music choice.
Very nice! You got yourself another subscriber from New Jersey USA! A lot of work but well worth it! Cheers to you.
Thank you :)
Just seeing the BBFC PG black card and UIP logo makes me very happy.
This is just amazing.
Nice home setup there!
Thank you :)
Impressive editing skills on your video. Great job 👍👌
Interesting stuff.
Thanks for sharing.
It was casper on laserdisk (dts) that got me hooked on home cinema.
Great film and what a dts sound track.
Subbed.
Lucky People, as they still have a 35 mm projector and theater, I grew up seeing quality 35 mm movie projections now it's extinct in our country
Thank you, this is a home setup as it’s getting increasingly rare to see a 35mm screening in actual cinemas nowadays.
It's an amazing process but one can see why this labor intensive process was going to be eventually replaced by digital projection.
Very true. I am a projectionist still, but completely digital. It still has its moments, but certainly not the same as dealing with film.
@@Reel35 I'm intrigued, I almost became a protectionist back in the time of film, is it half as interesting projecting digital? I imagine not so much? I don't even recall hearing the soundtrack before seating the last time I went to the cinema (yesterday)
In india (Tamilnadu)in our theater still christie projectors are fitted along with digital during this pandemic theaters are closed but i used to play many 35 mm print movies and still works as king ✌🏻
Great job, love the system. Curt from California
Thank you :)
How many times can you make these joints and cuts in the film until it wears out? Do you make new cuts in the film? How many projector runs can you make with a 35 mm until it's unwatchable?
You normally cut one frame off the start and end of each reel to remove any splicing tape left on it, however this wouldn’t make a huge difference (24 of the frames make up one second), but over a long period of time it would. So, to avoid this you can just peel off the left over splicing tape from the previous use and just resplice without having to cut another frame out.
This was a UK 35mm print.
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NIce to see 35mm running again after all the years I spent with AMC and Odeon Cinemas in the UK. How much did the projector cost? do you have other films,
i would like to see how the projector sound is conected to the denon av receiver , but anyway 35 mm film and digital sound is real cinema , is pure magic
Hi, I have posted a tour of the cinema video. I briefly mention about the sound. Basically, The sound pickup in the projector is wired up to an XLR connection (two connections, one for left and one for right). The XLR is then connected into an RCA cable and goes into the back of the AV Receiver. I do have a Dolby processor, but it’s not working. So, for now, 35mm is just stereo sound. But it still sounds great thanks to the AV Receivers processing power :)
@@Reel35 thanks for your answer
@@Reel35 also you can use the dolby prologic from your receiver to reproduce 5.1 from 2 channels, its not necesary that the source be digital , that's the dolby prologic function to reproduce from 2 channels 5.1
Thanks for this tip, that’s good to know. I’ll have a play with the receiver at the weekend :)
Completely forgot to reply back to you on this - had a play with the amp settings and I now have the 35mm with pro logic, which sounds SO much better! Thanks again :)
Thanks brother from India
How are you able to fit all those reels into one giant reel instead of putting them in two big reels and doing a change over?
Hi, each individual reel is spliced together to make up a full feature on one reel :)
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amazing¡¡ greetings fron Chile.
Thank you 😊
Love film projection love from India...
I just got a lot of Trailers in.😊 But my projector needs a lot of work before i even try to play any of it.😑
This projector needed a lot of work too. It hadn’t been used fully for almost 10 years. It isn’t working 100%... still some things to fix but getting there. Keep going at it.. the payoff is worth it.
Hi Whats The Size Of The Supply And Take Up Spools There Massive! Great Video I Enjoyed This.
Thanks! The reels can fit 2hrs 30 of film on them :)
How Awesome is that???
I really want a scan of this movie 😢
Thank you so much for sharing, would you be able to do a scan of that Pearl and Dean ident in 4k?
One of the teachers in Junior high I went to said she went to a cinema in the UK back in the 80s where people were actually allowed to smoke.
What happens to all the 35mm prints that get struck for projection in theatres? Up until the more recent move to digital projection, that must have meant thousands and thousands of 35mm prints. Did they just get destroyed by the studios after Thierry theatrical run??
I often wonder where they all went. I hope they’re not all destroyed, and hope that there’s an Aladdins cave somewhere with them all stored. But, sadly, I suspect that majority have been destroyed. Thankfully, though, lots are still available on eBay :)
I worked in movie theaters and was a projectionist for a bit in the late 90s and considering how controlling the distributors were of the prints I imagine many were destroyed to prevent unauthorized use, though some were probably preserved for archival purposes.
Keep in mind also that many of those prints were probably not in any shape to be preserved when done. With platter systems and automation depending on the number of screens a theater had they might only have one or sometimes no projectionists regularly scheduled (smaller theaters sometimes had the managers or other staff handle threading and starting the projectors with actual projectionists only scheduled for certain things like film build up and tear down). This meant that threading would be done quickly and the projectors/film transport not cleaned as often as it should have been. Multiply that by many showtimes before first run is over, then possibly getting moved to a second run theater and many of those prints were likely returned at the end in rough shape.
@@Reel35 They used to mostly get incinerated I'm sorry to have to say. Most distributors kept one or two copies of a title for retrospective hire, but they rarely knew the condition of them until someone tried running it...
Just to continue from previous comments, most theatrical prints were sent back to the distributor to be destroyed. Most have been played hundreds of times so you can imagine how rough they ended up. I remember seeing films at the discount movie theaters which were often a month or two after the first run and those prints were pretty scratched up. Also, theatrical prints were a few generations away from the original camera negatives so aren’t exactly high priority for archival purposes.
The movie just turned 25! :D
It has, I remember watching it when it came out. Only feels like a few years ago!!
Do you happen to have more movies on 35mm?
I only have one other at the moment, the 2005 animated film ‘Madagascar’. Have lots of old adverts and trailers though.
@@Reel35 I was wondering if you can show off the UIP logo from the start of that film? Since it wasn’t included on any of the home media releases.
I will try and get a better quality of the UIP logo at some point soon 👍
Very cool, but what a HUGE HASSLE just to watch Casper! lol
And you can see why they settled on 'only' 24fps. Imagine how much film you'd have if it was 48fps! The spool would be TWICE the size!
Very true! I quite enjoy the hassle of making up the film and breaking it down afterwards - brings good memories back from doing it as a job :)
Your Videos Are Awesomeness Reel Spike Give Me Some Requested Music You Put in the Casper Film Reel Video You Made Recently Last Year
Never experience film projection. Just been on digital.
Digital projection is fine - pin sharp images etc, but nothing compares to the sound and flicker of a film projected on 35mm.
Is that a Kodak Carousel slide proj. lamphouse adaptation?
It is indeed! Couldn’t get a xenon, and so I thought a slide projector was the next best thing for 35mm! Seems to work :)
Okay I thought was carlton screen advertising in 1996 4:39
Carlton were around (they may still have been called Rank back then), but we were contracted with Pearl and Dean for our ads (and still are in digital days)
This was so cool! I have always wondered how you made up a movie with 5 or more reels. How many minutes worth of film did those huge reels hold? Those big reels you had,...who made those?
Thanks. So each individual small reel is roughly 20-25mins. The large reel can hold about 2.5hrs (ish). Large cinemas would have used a cake stand or platter system where the film would sit on a platform horizontally and fed from the centre - this would also be able to fit 3+ hours on and also have the film automatically rewound ready for the next screening. Sort of like a 8track.
Can you show 35mm animorphic, with masking(not sure the technical term) ? Do you own or rent prints?
I have just managed to get the anamorphic setup so that I can show cinema scope films but I have a fixed screen so the masking doesn’t move. This means that the scope image will have a black bar above and below. Eventually I aim to get movable masking to frame this better :)
@@Reel35 that's amazing. Thanks. 🙂❤❤🙂
@@Reel35 I prefer setting masking using side curtains. But this assumes you setup a screen that is natively for Scope. That is you set lens throw for the Flat lens so that you have side bars(fills top to bottom) and can mask the sides of the screen by closing the curtains. Always fun cutting new Aperture Plates to fit a custom screen. :)
Id like to build a reel system like that for my projector any help?
EBay has a few 35mm projectors on sale, some refurbished and setup to work at home. That’s where I would start :)
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There No THX Logo What So Ever
This 35mm print of “Casper (1995)” was sourced from the UK. The UK doesn’t have any THX Certified Cinemas as far as I can research, so that’s why there’s no THX logo on the print...
@@iGuy2007 what about the sound was it dolby digital or Dolby Stereo and how did u get it to come thew a home theater receiver analog out then in the receiver?
@@JunkerDC Dolby SR optical track, DTS digital track on Casper. I'd imagine he has a Dolby processor for optical tracks.
Hey all - it's Dolby SR. At the moment the 35mm audio is just outputted to a standard home cinema AV receiver by XLR to RCA cables. I do have a Dolby CP500 - but the screen has gone funny. One day I'll get a processor hooked up for the full experience.
not gonna lie, after spending all this time to load the projector Id watch anything so I dont have to redo it again.
Too much fuss in my opinion for the sake of one movie show. I prefer to do multiple reloads. Viewers will tolerate this. I have Cinemeccanica Victoria 5 projector at my home.
Never used any Vics, only used Kinoton and Westar. Usually though I would keep a film built up for a few weeks and show it to as many friends and family as possible and then break it down.