The Public Opinion of MultiVersus
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- The new and final release version of MultiVersus came out today, and the game isn't what we expected it to be. After the game was taken offline to continue applying fixes for when it leaves beta, we all got hands on today and the general consensus is... Not good.
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To me the worst thing about the new version isn’t the slower speed, its the fact they took away the ability to use all the characters in training mode before you purchased them. I'd like to try out Joker, but I don't want to spend currency on him if I'm not sure I'm actually going to play him.
Ye that’s how I feel about it too.
Even worse, you can’t play non unlocked characters locally. That’s going to make in person events annoying since you’ll need to make sure every console is logged into an account with every character
Facts
I was also dumbfounded by this, defeats the whole purpose
I didn't even know about this until literally a minute ago. Wtf?? This is going to ruin local in general. I'd assume this i an exec decision, not sure that PFG would do this if they had it in place before. I like to give the benefit of the doubt for the devs but not so sure here. Though it might never be explained.
biggest part for me was the change they made to the loading screens before and after games. I wanna see my damage and ringouts along with the badges look worse at the bottom
Agreed
I agree
Yup agreed
Mhmm, agreed
I agree I need to see who wasn't putting in work on doubles.
I played the offline beta like 30 minutes before launch, the whiplash almost killed me.
SAME LMAO
I played it the day before, it is quite a difference, but I really don't mind
I played it yesterday as Jake and even when I was forced to do the tutorial as shaggy, whom I rarely even played before, I could tell it was significantly slower: that’s how bad it is.
@@Overqualificationthe tutorial is massively slowed down and tech doesn’t work in it (such as dodge jumping) lowkey i think they did this so when you hop into the real game it would seem faster
Lmao it was the same for me. Was in the lab for like an hour cooing with Morty that shit felt great. Official release dropped and I got straight rick rolled like wtf was that. The input buffer was so horrible I thought the servers were just lagging. Man they added so much dumb shit to the full release it’s insane
This feels like forced 50CC in Mario Kart.
When the beta was 200
Nailed it….
Wow that sounds terrible....
Also isn't mario Kart known for everyone being able to play and win?
@@Matanumiwe are talking about pacing, not randomized items
This is the equivalent of porting Melee and giving it Brawl physics
Project B 🥸
There's a guy that made a mod for Melee that does exactly that. It's basically the opposite of Project M.
It's like taking smash 4 and making it brawl 2
@@microblast3700more accurate
Eww
Also fuck brawl minus
Removing most of the controller options is what makes me the most annoyed
This game was made for doubles, and doubles was horrible to follow visually, so it seems their solution was making it slower instead of adjusting art style… which… is a choice
It's an odd one. None of the attacks were visually altered in the slightest. They picked the most band-aid patch to "fix" the game. All they really did was half the speed, make the characters bigger, and update the graphics. It definitely doesn't feel great.
A bad choice
It's wild... It's like they TRIPLE downed on making the game slower overall, all they needed to do was add some hit stun (which they did) and people would be able to follow doubles better. They just went too overboard and made it a completely different game.
Doubles is far worse than before all everyone does now is gank people
Good point tbh
I think this game would be a lot better if they added a mechanic where your character occasionally falls over when you're trying to run. That would really tie their new vision together
That kinda happened to smash brawl but people were not that happy of that inclusion it made the game more sluggish than it actually was.
@@sonoio869that's the joke 😮💨
Christ do people not understand sarcasm 😂
Lmfao
@@accelerei7619um sarcasm usually has a tone that is required to hear with ears…. It’s not easily obvious through text jerk lmao
Nakat is the one associated with multiversus development. Void is NOT. He just is a fan of the game and big content creator for it.
He didn't even get access to pre release
Removing the option to swap jab and forward smash input threw me off. WHY IS TOM AND JERRYS JAB MAPPED TO FORWARD SMASH.... AND HIS FORWARD SMASH MAPPED TO HIS JAB?!?!?
"Should you be rewarded for having a faster reaction time?" otherwise known as "Should you be rewarded for being good at the video game?"
That would make all the casual gamer dads quit the game tho 😂 and ultimately leading to no money lol
I mean if you need value from a video game, that already speaks volumes of your worth
@@paveesfox375 what?🥴
@@paveesfox375okay I like the current speed, but it’s not about self worth lmao, they just mean them being better than someone else means they should be rewarded
@@callmepsycho3132 exactly 👍
They overcorrected combat by a mile I like the direction and it makes sense given the initial complaints about the game, but they went waaaay too far.
They took it too far cause they actually care about the future of it , so they did that as a precaution , I think its easier for them to adjust it after release if they took polishing the game too far
@@MrTaminomimo are you wb?
@@MrTaminomimo You NEVER adjust a game after launch. Put the game out in a playable state. When you have a game that is not fun as your main launch, no matter how good it gets, you will have people (like me) who will never play the game again because of their previous experience with it. From the shitty, forced tutorial to the overall feel of the game (it feels like you are trying to move through peanut butter) I will never download that garbage even if they fix the issues, and that's how the average consumer generally looks at it.
The pace was fine 😭. The game feels amazing. I just wished 1v1s wasn't so zoomed in
omg same, i keep looking for an option to zoom out, couldnt found one
I would agree with you if I didn’t see the sped up footage tbh. That shit looked so nice compared to what it is now
You had less than 5 hours on the beta guaranteed
You mean when you could fly across the stage in half a second with a dodge jump? Theres no way yall miss that 😭
@@unr34L-I had 100+ hours and I’m just glad I’m playing multiversus again.
It should be noted that Void didn't even get any early access like the other people like NAKAT, so him talking about the game during his impression was him actually speaking his mind. I think he geniunely think the speed isn't as bad but could be a bit faster. I do think that back then it kinda was a bit too fast for all the wrong reasons
I’ve been saying this. Everyone complaining about the speed is mostly mad that they can’t dodge spam their way out of situations. In the beta every character felt about the same speed, but in this release you can actually tell what characters are meant to be fast and slow. Yes it’s an adjustment that people need to get used to, but everyone is acting like it’s objectively worse.
@@NasirAli_1 Nah I'm sorry, as someone who didn't play beta (therefore I have no bias other than all of my years of smash) it feels like you are moving through peanut butter. Like just the movement feel of the game alone was enough to make me delete it, and that's without talking about the shitty forced intro
@@sclapple3192 games are preference man, not everything is for everyone. I don’t think the game is perfect right now, but I think the game speed change was a step in the right direction. IMO the best change they can add is adding an initial dash now, allowing fast characters to still feel fast while also giving heavies some movement. It’ll also fix the issue of how dash attacks can’t be done on command and you need to hold forward for like a full second to input it. Thats just my take tho
Edit...them putting Jason in the game makes Multiversus stick in my mind like nothing else they've put in the game thus far...I might actually try it now that they put him in there.
I ain’t ever touching that shit again. The gameplay is so slow and jarring it’s terrible. I also lost my characters and their skins (I had over 70% of the roster), some of which I bought because they told us we would get them transferred over when the game launched. What a waste of time and bloody disappointment. If the gameplay was good I wouldn’t care about grinding for the characters again but they more than quadrupled the FTP grind for characters, created 5 microtransaction baiting currencies to replace the good gold system in the beta, and the gameplay is just ass.
@@Calamity4 it's a bug mate, I still have all my characters and cosmetics from the beta in the full release, still same kda and everything lol
He's absolutely terrible
@@ihavestds394 a bug that makes you lose all the products you paid for? sounds like a great game im going to go spend money on it right now, no way they steal it from under us again right?
fuck the game speed, the momentum is the thing that really fucks with me, airdodges barely move at all, and trying to drift with aerials (shaggy sair for example) just feels horrible, I would be fine with this if I could move more deliberately in the air.
Yeah ain't no way I'm moving away from a semi-decent Harley as Jason when I'm stuck in the air with an air dodge as bad as that...
@@Cosmo_Samoyedthere's parries now lol that shit was saving me all night ngl
I fully agree it's the floatyness of it for me
I miss the old movement in general but yeah current game is hella floaty, even fastfalls don’t always take you to the ground
finallly someone with sense game feels like absolute dogshit i cant believe people actually have fun
I agree with the decision of slowing the game down, but I definitely think they overdid it alot. I don't want it the same speed as before, but I do hope they increase the movement speed at least a little bit in a future patch.
I loved the speed from before, though I think the decision to tone down dodging was the right move.
Kinda having a hard time enjoying the game now, with that ontop of all the other weird changes...
I loved the previous speed.
@@Cosmo_Samoyedagreed
At the very least give us the old movement speed.
best take in this comment section
People keep saying "only melee players are complaining"
Personally I don't like Melee and I'm not a competitive player in the slightest and I HATE what they did to Multiversus compared to the Beta.
I'm someone with bad reaction time and keeping track of my character when it comes to games like Smash but I had no issues with the speed from the Beta
Same here homie
Cry
Ok, But how do you not like melee though.
@@skipperbut because he just doesn't? not everyone vibes with how melee functions
@Stock_Junction Because he just doesnt.* I don't play brawl because it's not as fun to me compared to ultimate but I dont not like the game just cause I don't personally favor it. Wasn't asking ya also
Was brushing up on the game on the offline version with Stripe, Finn, and Steven the night before and loved how fluid and quick it felt and how you were able to string combos easily. Now it's so slowed down (even before the lag kicks in) and hitting people feel so inconsistent. The gravity and movement has been shot to hell that a character like Marvin is just able to stand on the ground and constantly keep shooting you with his projectiles and you can't do much because you can barely move around in any way
Exactly 😅😅😅
Exactly this lol
Personally its the gravity for me, as a previous Harley main it feels awful to jump so High because your side Air was your main damage and now you can’t jump and hit it instantly. I think im gonna switch mains that’s How awful it feels…
@@_ScarCrow Omggg so its not just me😩 Im just thinking I technically couldn’t do it any more
pff overexaggerating a bit much, if I can dodge projectiles perfectly fine on my own I'm positive you can too, just need some practice as the slower pace is obviously quite jarring
The speed feels fine for 2v2s imo but a bit too slow for 1v1s. Theres so many characters on screen for 2v2s its doesnt feel like you have to travel as far to hit a character or have an impact, especially since your partner can follow up to make up thar distance. Whereas 1v1s have none of that. If you hit a character across the screen, then they have a good chance of coming back before you even reach the other side of the stage which is a problem i can see for some people
yes especially for me i’ve chosen to main jason, and while he feels fantastic in doubles, im a better player in solos, but im so slow that harley quinn can eat me alive and tom and jerry can just spam up neutral
@@EditedByOrigamiyeah, Jason feels unplayable in some 1v1 matchups. He is so so slow and somebody like Finn can just spam and you’re essentially too slow to fight back.
Tbh that just sounds like you should've used an up attack or hit them the other way. You're complaining that you can't hit someone ALL THE WAY across the stage, then be there on the other side to hit them again before they can react? And you think the speed before wasn't too fast? Tf?
@gorbla1231 nah I wasn't saying you should be able to hit them from one blast zone to another. I meant moreso you hit them across the stage and being able to be in their vicinity to have a potential edge guard. But not a guaranteed follow up of course cause that'd just be touches of death
It was literally more fine the way it was in the beta…. Who said it was too fast lmao? I’d hate to see these people play actual fighting games then
I feel dumb that I didn't notice it when I played for an hour earlier because I was just doing the PVE but it totally felt off and I thought I was just inputting horribly, holy shit thank god I'm not going crazy.
They told us the changes when the gameplay trailer was announced
Faster does not mean better. That being said I do miss the pace of the beta more than now.
Genuinely. What's the point of saying that if you're just gonna say you wish it was faster 5 seconds later 🤦🏿♂🤦🏿♂
@edwardhoffenheim3249 I said that because lots people nowadays think all games should be fast to be a good game. Not all games should do that but in this case multiversus should.
Why though
For a platform fighter, yeah it kinda does. That’s why melee is still alive and it’s older than I am. Because it’s a fast paced, exciting brawl. But when you take a game that in comparison, is sluggish to play and boring to watch, no copies would be sold
@@dinnerlord65lil bro doesnt know what hes talking about melee worked because of the market it gathered and the culture it made and brawl failed because of MANY THINGS not only pace
The characters are heavier, and you didn't get better over the break.
holy shit its so slow it looks like its lagging
The best part is it probably is on top of that
Feels like u have input delay too. Just played yesterday
That’s how I felt it felt like I was slow motion lagging the whole time and of course they took the option to see your ping and latency away
@@AerialBooster1234 same to me, south america server
The game kinda feels fine to me
That is molasses slow! Thats not even watchable with how dull that looks.
It shouldn't be broken on launch, otherwise what was the point about the "open beta"?
Couldn't agree more.
I feel like a middle ground between beta and full release (in terms of speed) would be good!
Intentionally slowing a game down is never a decision that lasts. Brawl, Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter, Street Fighter 3, Final Fantasy 8, Pikmin 2, Sonic 06. All games that had the design philosophy of being slower and more methodical, only for the next entry to reverse that decision and return to a snappy fast pace.
I player the beta for 10 hours This week, BUT NOW IT KEEPS CRASHING AND I CANT EVEN PLAY IT
this game feels like its being played underwater. I genuinely thought there was something wrong with my computer. every attack has lag, im okay with heavies being slow but LIGHTS??? Sometimes when I do a move, I do it twice cuz i didnt see it happen fast enough and as soon as that move ends, it SAVED the previous input when i clicked it like 5 seconds ago and wanna do something different.
Ppl spamming get good are chugging a gallon of copium if thats your only defense. Fighting games are inherently fast by nature. if this one wants to play in slowmotion, thats fine, but im allowed to express my frustration about it. Just like how THEY were allowed to vent their frustration about how fast the beta was.
The game was obviously catered more towards casuals especially with the excessive amounts of In game purchases, so I guess I cant be too butt hurt about it. Some good things i can save, the cinematics look good, runs fine, good ui, but i really wish i could swap characters when doing 1v1s
Hey yo.
Was this game even good in the first place?
Doubles seemed to rock but like for 1v1s?
Not being able to change neutral attacks with side attacks in the settings anymore makes me not want to play
This was the first platform fighter I have played since smash 64 as a kid when it came out, and I enjoyed the game a ton. However it feels like I’m playing in a vat of molasses now 😆. Not really having fun so will move on to play something else. But if anyone enjoys the speed good on them, and as long as it’s fun that’s all that matters!
not to mention i dont think its optimized for any pc because my bad pc could handle multiverses back in the old days, but even with lowering the quality of everything, it still chugs like hell
That’s what happens when an incompetent company “upgrades” to a more demanding engine for no real reason except it’s the newest one
I watch a lot of videos sped up, but don't do it on gameplay since the focus is on what I'm watching and not the audio
I left a video of launch miltiversus at 2x speed and all I could think of was "the movement looks a bit jankier?" And only noticed that it was sped up because of the audio
The game only problem is if you're a new player I'll take 900 hours before you unlock every character and then 140 hours for agent smith a week earlier and better have a second controlier or a friend or you're of luck the only problem that's not grind is they were rushed so there still impleting training with locked characters to try them and stats after matches because this truly is alpha level
Although the game might be a little slow, I think a lot of players aren’t realizing there is potentially more skill to that. Look at Nakat and voids takes on the game. You now can actually get punished for whiffing moves, you can’t just dodge all over the screen, you can’t just mash and play like a crackhead, but you can still make cracked reads and do sick combos. Also you can still do crazy movement that is attached to meter. It could add a lot of depth to the neutral on the ground game and decision making in general.
Exactly u get it cuh
All that was possible in the beta…. You just struggled with it cause your reaction time is slow lmao. Making it slower does not open any new avenues of the game. It only opens up your own reaction time which was a skill level issue. The game wasn’t even fast to begin with in the beta…. It was smash ultimate speed. Now it’s literally slower than smash bros brawl which is sad and Ming boggling. It’s a snail game. Don’t get me started on big slow characters like Jason and iron giant who are the slowest already. Their moves get beat out by much faster characters cause they have faster frame moves
It requires more skill to act on the fly and react to something as quick as possible and punish it or defend against it lol. Now you literally can see any move coming a mile away before it comes. That’s not skill
“This game feel slippery you can’t* really punish anything”
“This games too slow, why did they change the speed? It was perfect” Ngl I don’t even know what people want video game design looks hard (this is like their first game btw)
I fucking hate that everyone’s complaining, because the biggest fucking complaint with the beta was that everyone was spamming and there was no end frames, they slow everything down and now everyone complains again. I think they should have toned down the speed a bit but it needed to go slower.
Lol you're just mad because you aren't dominating
@bms2010 did you even read the comment?
@@toast7304most of the complaints are monetization. And they're right
Didn't play the beta but let me tell you I don't give a shit how fast it was before, they slowed it down too much. It feels like you are moving through peanut butter
How do I enter the coinbox for mutiverse
The 30 frames of input buffering immediately made me put the game back down. It feels so bad.
I assume since I forgot about Multiversus vs Tekken 8, Street Fighter 6, Mortal Kombat 1, Elder Scrolls Online, Raid Shadow Legends, Skyrim, Aveyond, and a hoard of other video games a good number obscure.
Yes...Multiversus...I doubt much news from that game is gonna be good considering that.
SOMEHOW Multiversus managed to mess up more than any of these other games including the flaming of Tekken 8...(I'm not sure why the game gets so much hate Tekken 8 really isn't that bad in my opinion barring Arcade quest & battlepass).
Ngl, I heard more about multiversus than any other figthing game you listed here, street figther 6 looks interesting but both mortal kombat 1 and tekken 8 seems painfully forgettable
@@GameurBlais My opinion is different...but Jason puts this game on the map for me like nothing else they've put in the game so I think they fixed it with him for me.
lol yeah, arcade mode was awful in Tekken 8, still like the regular Tekken gameplay though
@@vapersmith7859 Jason is really fun, though they really need to give him some armor or a better dodge since he just gets juggled like there's no tomorrow but fast characters
@@Cosmo_Samoyed Arcade mode isn't my primary reason for playing Tekken 8 its the fighting style and the personality of some of the characters. Its one of the reasons I don't skip Reina intro she has something hilarious to say to each enemy.
"Multiversus was a Dodge-fest"
Am I supposed to let you hit me?
Ikr lmfao
Ever heard of spacing?
no it was just braindead
it was a bit too slippery. One dodge jump and youre on your way to blast zone lol.
@@McLovin-Chan ur neutral is dog
I personally think everyone needs to calm down, its warner bros guys. They will listen about the speed of the game, just trust me. we are only in launch guys. chill out!!
They Pulled a 'Brawl' With the 2nd Launch of this game. You used to be shmoovin like 2 years ago, Now It feels like you are stuck in Mud.
Tbh, to me this game always felt slow and floaty af even in the beta, when compared to every platform fighter before it. Especially Ultimate since I think Ult is the perfect speed.
I think Jason is too slow, and his hit boxes should reach just slightly further
He needs armor on some of his slowest attacks (like when you charge grounded neutral), or a better dodge
Bro he’s a tank, he’s not gonna be going as fast as you want him to be
@@Cosmo_Samoyed Bruh no there's already too many characters with armor I'm tired of fighting shaggy, Superman, and Wonder woman
@@Xerolyst The game has more tools to break / negate armour than there was in the beta, sure it can be annoying but that just sounds like a skill issue
@@Cosmo_Samoyed not at all Jason doesn't need it and say plenty you're all wrong the game barely has 20 perks
I just played a bit with someone who is definitely new, and the feeling I had was not sluggish, just slow. It's like playing in slo-mo, and getting stuck in a combo becomes "can you dodge your way out of the combo before 20 minutes passes?". That being said, equipping speed perks makes the game SO MUCH BETTER (POV of a sm4sh 3ds enjoyer)
i'm fighting with my character and the ennemy, like i can barely move my character. In beta everything was smooth i could dodge and do my moves like i wanted to, now ? i just struggle with my controls and get destroyed because everything seems so heavy
This makes brawl look frantic by comparison
Nah brawl had tripping💀
I had been playing the beta all week in preparation for the release and at the start I was a little jarred by the speed changes but I adapted really easily. Plus it makes the game a lot more fun to watch when you can tell exactly what’s happening at all times, hopefully it can make the esport a little more popular
I agree, the game feels way more strategy-oriented now that moves have more endlag and can be punished. You're forced to think more about the options in your character's kit.
Finally someone with a brain, in the beta it was just a dodge spam fest
@@bullinater7686 for sure, I’ve noticed because of this I’m not getting as upsets over losses because it feels like I just got beat. Not like I was out dodged or even just out spammed
Honestly I like how advantage and disadvantage feel. It's a bit early to be sure, but I liked it during this first games.
Does anyone remember the Alpha? I remember it being so good, like you had all the characters, fast gameplay, good balance....
Bro this shit is slow on Xbox series x and ps5 as well
Remmeber when he box tried pushing Nickolsewn trash game and talked everyone into buying it cause he was sponsored and didn’t tell us?
Nasb2 gameplay wise is still better than this crap turtle game lmao
How do I enter Multibox??
My biggest gripe is the connection stability. That and not being able to try the characters out before purchasing them.
I can see why people would gripe about the game being “slowed” down. But honestly, it’s not that big of a deal at all to me personally. I think it actually feels better at this pace. People who generally complaint about the speed is because they played it originally at different pace than what it is now. So they are USED to how it felt and it’s been changed. So of course those people will gripe. It would be the SAME exact gripe if the game was slower before and then got sped up on release. People would complain and want it slower.
Oh my God, this is Sm4sh levels of slow. The characters look like they're under water.
Sm4sh felt faster than this.
@@parsath_2584smash 4 is not faster 💀
@@jamelrucks-smith9857 smash 4 is definitely faster bro those are some weird glasses you're wearing.
@@jamelrucks-smith9857smash 4 isnt this slow. Put the crack pipe down
@@just_2swiftmultiversus seems slow at first but when you get used to it it becomes a little faster smash Bros 4 is not that fast compare the multiversus tho
Here is the thing I didn’t like how floaty it was in the beta literally having dragon ball battles at the blast zone buuut I dont like moving-15 miles per hour just give us melee moment or rivals of ather
No thank you. If you want those, play those games.
The floatyness was not much of a problem seeing as to how fast the fast fall was, it was pretty much a good thing considering the movement options in the beta.
But now it's still there with no compensation...
The floatyness was never a problem to me. Now the game feels actually floaty asf with the game speed.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 The thing is the game was faster, and fast fall was faster to boot so juggling took a bit more effort on the player's side.
But now it's just awkward...
What??? The dbz battles by the blast zone was one of the best parts
I believe it will take people to adjust a bit and if people still don’t like it after a while they will most likely buff move speed
I don't mind the speed too much, it's fine to me. My real problem are the servers man, I tried to play with my friends and 30 seconds into the fight someone either disconected or the entire match just died and I swear our connections are not that bad
also for some reason they removed being able to play with locked characters in training and local, how am I supposed to buy a character if I don't even know if I will like how it plays?
I guess it could be a little faster, but i haven't really noticed it myself, i was a lot more focused on doing jabs with the right stick and stopping to think which button was the side smash again. I think if the speed issue is really that bad, they can just set the time scale to something like 1.2 or 1.5 even, then spend a couple of months on the clean solution. I wouldn't mind personally if the majority finds the speed preferable to what it was in beta, but the majority doesn't stick from what i've seen. You don't cater to people who download popular thing to mess around in, unless you want to upset the people who actually care.
I do think they may have slowed the game down a tad too much but I think it's for the better. 3 of my friends are now all in on the game because they can actually play. They are absolute casuals but they are having fun. If the speed was the same as it was in beta there is no way they would have played for more than a handful of matches. The game still moves when played at a high level, it just takes some getting used to.
By the way the developers said they’ll fix the speed at an later date and add more features like being able to try before you buy
My biggest issue with the game so far is just how zoomed in the camera is. It makes all characters look HUUUGE and that somewhat messes with my combos. I think if it were a bit more zoomed out, the slower speed wouldn't even be the biggest issue aswell
Why would you leave in that part about Void? He didn't even get early access...
If the beta was so much better, why did everybody stop playing it?
If you have grievances put them in the games feedback.
I never stopped playing and people can have an opinion on anything they want officer
@@skybattle1184 Who said someone isn't allowed to have an opinion? Who are you disagreeing with?
You never stopped playing? Congrats, what about the hundreds of thousands of players who did? I obviously didn't mean every single person. It never had 0 players. But 99% of the player base left, and that is documented fact.
Your comment is nonsensical.
@@Xearrik If i may object. This game in the current state of being slower is going to hurt in the long run and die much faster than the beta.
@@just_2swift What are you talking about? You couldn't possibly know something like that. If people loved the beta speed so much, then why did 99.9% of the players leave?
Here, I'll do what you just did. If I may object. This games current use of the color blue is going to hurt it in the long run, and it will die much faster than the beta.
You couldn't possible have the slightest clue as to what peoples motivations are when it comes to this stuff.
At this point, I'm starting to feel like this is some fake drama to try to tank the game because you all seem to be making a much bigger deal about this than anybody I've talked about the game with outside of this community. I've heard complaints about the game, but outside of this community it is almost never about the games speed. And when it is, it's more of an observation than a real complaint. Like the jury is still out on if the game speed feels bad. It's just not a problem for the majority of players I see outside of this community.
Heck, even in this community people are divided about it. The top rated comment is someone saying that the games speed isn't their biggest problem, it's not being able to test characters in training mode.
@@Xearrik Hot take is all. Return here in 3 months see if I'm wrong. I'll own up to it.
Worse than leveling the playing field, making everything slower so it's easy to react to anything makes the game boring because pressing something that slow is too big a risk. It encourages gigadefensive play, just waiting for the other guy to press so you can win off the whiff punish you saw coming for half a second
No bcz you can punch and press doge or cancel frequently they would get confused and not nkow what to do 😂
Is actually easier to be the one pushing the fight while doing it right not full send but smart playing
4:02 Why can Jason do Guile Handcuffs? No way that is intentional.
The thing that bites me is, since I practiced in prep for launch, my combos are now too fast.
Changing multiversus this far away from its Beta state...was not advisable...having the game appear slower and messing up its systems when it was already struggling.
Going to stick with the games I know for the time being.
Bye bye. U will not be missed.
@@Oathiel I already downloaded Multiversus to the Steam Library so its not like I didn't pay attention to the coming of Jason...he changed my view of the game.
I think the slow speed help the Games distinguish its self from the amount of platform fighters
3:22 The fact that it was speed boosted to 2x (at least I think since it cuts off before he pressed anything) just shows how slow this game is and it shocked me.
the lebron quote killed me faster than the iron giant
*throws 3 basketballs* "come on man, all you"
I was watching this at 1.5x speed when the first clip was shown, and thought 'oh, that doesn't seem too bad'. Then I rewatched it correctly.
While there is legitimate criticism made, a lot of this is just a SSB community circlejerk. They will try to ruin any platform fighter that comes out until it becomes SSB... and then complain that it's a SSB clone.
they really need to increase game speed even just a little bit.
Super smash bros Brawl speed meets Multiversus Speed
Anyone complaining about the speed, quit before the frame data changes they made weeks or months before they closed the servers. They increased whiff recovery frames to almost every move in the game, and on top of that they added a new netcode. The netcode is probably similar to the delay based rollback netcode hybrid injustice and mk uses.
No shit everyone quit. They let it stagnate for months before doing anything and then they shut it down to recooperate server run costs while they hyper-optimize their game and fill it to the brim with microtransactions and UI out the wazoo. So much so, that when I first saw a stream of the game, I thought i was looking at the main menu of Fortnite.
I actually enjoyed the feel of the game before the servers shut, it was really just the lack of new content / excessive grind for holiday event items that turned me away from it.
@@OverqualificationSame here lol
Absolute lie, I played to the bitter end and the new slower speed is absolutely atrocious, this game is an absolute slog now, ESPECIALLY as an iron Giant main, he doesn’t even play right at all anymore, definitely thee worst character in the game by far now.
@@unr34L- Amen beta brother, the new speed is without a doubt terrible as returning player who was in practice mode the whole week leading up to launch and played to the end of the beta.
the game is much better now. anyone complaining simply relied on dodge spam and sucked balls. the real, honest truth.
Said nobody ever
@@estevan764 your lack of skill is not my or anybody's issue.
The game is significantly easier now, with the slow motion gameplay.
The argument people don't have skill is not a good one.
@@parsath_2584 No, the game is harder because you can't spam dodges, so eventually, you run out of them and are fucked.
Yes, the overall pace is slower, but that also means you have to strategically think about your next move, which is good for pros and casuals to keep them playing.
When will people understand that the speed is perfect now, there's such thing as TOO fast holy fuck.
personally, the server issues have been the biggest set back, I can't even get much of an opinion because I can't even play for 75% of my games. BUT, if we're talking strictly about the speed, I think we can go in the middle of the two versions and it'd probably be fine. The fact you don't have much movement or speed to make a good offense or avoid being juggled is just as painful as someone whose played platform fighters their whole life speed blitzing you, so, having a middle where you can punish people, but also build momentum is best case scenario. In my opinion.
I think everyone just has whiplash from Smash. I had the same issue and had to get used to the physics again. I still enjoyed the game and I think the pace is fine.
Am I the only one who likes the game the way it is not every platform fighter needs to be melee speed
Yeah but we’d like a good one since 2000
Yes it does , if it's slow it's so boring
I think this is good speed and remember this is full smash players in here so they love to complaining smh
Exactly all smash players mad it's not fast like smash lol like chill the speed shouldn't affect whether you have skill or not
Honestly, I think people need to give it some time before they automatically call it bad. I think the game being slower may show better skill expression overtime.
The movement feels good imo maybe buff it slightly but nothing too crazy cause right now it allows more reactive play than just bombarding your opponent with moves and dodge spams.
I think it needs to increase speed, not to the original, but still a noticeable amount.
I think they should aswell, beta was so fast that it was a spam fest, I liked it but they needed to slow it down, this much? No, but I trust they can change it soon for the better.
I just played it for almost an hour or 2. It feels the same way as the beta? Literally no complaints other than the game crashing once.
Idk what to say other then that you aren't very perceptive. Its massively slower. I noticed it in 3 seconds.
@@aja3longhorn375 Maybe they're a shaggy main?
He seems to be pretty much the same but with even more kill power
People who want fighting games to be slower because they think it benefits the casual crowd scare me. I’m absolutely a casual Smash Bros. player, and my favorite game in the series, despite having no nostalgia for it, playing it last, and having no tech skill, is Melee. I’m a casual who sees it as only a good thing that Melee plays so fast. For added context, my first and only Smash game for years was Brawl. Why do people think casuals want or need slower platform fighters?
What does it for me is the fact it’s been in production for over a year now since beta they tested ranked year ago and it’s not out in the launch be fr
I was playing offline training before launch, characters feel sluggish. Also WHY CAN'T I TRY OUT LOCKED CHARACTERS????
Bring back old perks options, stats post matches, a decent speed, the camera angle, the option to swap ground neutral and forward attack and air. Remove dexter lab moving map. Allow us to choose button display for gc/ps controllers. Game was good on beta they removed a lot.
Allow ability to turn off team colors, also I think you used to be able to fall through platforms easier but now you kind of get stuck until you press jump and hold down (and you can't toggle that), both my mains Jake and Morty play terribly now.
The list goes on...
Bro I swear the beta felt more complete than the current version.
the "bugs combo" sped up looked like absolute dogshit lol. It wasnt pretty before but you def didnt make it better
You could play it on training or local a few days prior to relaunch. I did, it was old version, the combat felt much better. Since I played old version a couple days prior to relaunch, I can guarantee you the combat is much slower.
I really didn't see it when I was playing the only thing I don't like is that they took most of the perks away and you only have a set few
The game is slower, but it’s literally the same game. Not that deep
Sounds awful
It is NOT the same game
It just doesnt feel the same game, I had 60 hours on the beta so when I came back it just was to slow, i love the game but the speed just sucks at times
when u sped it up 2 times it still looked too slow 100% honest
You are nuts.
My mants wants this game to be the next marvel vs capcom
Had the same bug playing as Velma against Jason in duos. My poor teammate almost won on his own.
I think I don't care about the gameplay speed change because I never thought multiversus played well in the first place.
I played Multiversus because it was free and I stopped playing because it ran out of content.
As long as it stays free and keeps having content I'm fine
Content and Lag looks to be fixed here now 🎉 hope is not just on launch day bcz the beta was the same it was not Lag and good content t then we got Lag Fest and No content
People complaining about the speed dont know what to say to ya the game feels fine and ive got no issues hitting my combos
The game feels clunky and slow.
Its very character dependent. If you're a Shaggy main you're probably eating good, also Harley seem to still be great even if I've heard some players still complain about the movement.
If you like Morty, well get prepared to get Vietnam flashbacks as your character actively tries to stop you from having fun like you had in the beta and gives you a wet willy.
@@Cosmo_Samoyed I've seen a couple of very strong Morty's and they seemed to be doing fine :/
@@Oathiel Well the thing is if you played in the beta and practiced grenade juggling in training mode the weeks leading up to launch, he will be really disappointing.
It’s not like they removed anything from his kit, but the grenades back then were a major part of it, being both one of his best and most fun tools in combat.
Now they are very finicky and in the case that you actually may to hit them, they hardly travel at all and don’t ricochet your bullets when shot.
Only time I’ve saw where they’ve been useful is if you use them in a jab combo (which a smart opponent won’t blindly run into if use the grenade).
Hammer Morty kills earlier though which is fine I guess, but seeing how bad d-air and almost all his vertical launching moves are now, he’ll have a nightmare getting any knockouts on a stage like the game of thrones one.
I know this may be an unpopular take but I will say that I personally enjoy the game slower. For disclosure I am very much a casual enjoyer I am nowhere near amazing at the game and from that casual perspective I do enjoy the slower pace and I feel it makes the game more readable, easier to follow and more inclusive to people of all skill levels. My best comparison which is by no means unique is melee vs brawl. And being someone that always enjoyed playing brawl more because of how I felt it and it’s gameplay appealed better to a casual audience. I understand where hungrybox is coming from since he is someone who plays these games at a higher level but as a casual player the slower pace is an improvement in my eyes.
Well yeah they made it so people like you would enjoy it. Hopefully there's enough casuals cause I just cant anymore. It feels terrible to me I'm depressed
@@aceking707I know dude, and I main Iron Giant, you’d think a dude like me that plays a character like that would adore these changes, but absolutely NOT.
the game is ass what are you fighting for? there used to be justification for playing it but now its like im playing on perma big mode. and the net code is still harbage
You enjoy it slower because you’re slow too
@briannaceccarelli3216 Fr how is it still so fucking laggy? I tried it again today and I enjoyed it a little more but it still feels like shit to play
I was playing 2v2’s yesterday, and after we were rung out, we couldn’t respawn. The enemy Morty just ran down the timer, and they won lol
They posted that tweet for speed changes on my bday 😭