I had this amazing teacher who pretty much when he said the guitar being a tempered instrument (which it is lol) when I was tuning up once said to me "you're trying to be too" exact haha
Tim I’m so glad that you use the word “sweet”” in describing guitar strings being in tune. For some reason I think it’s a great discipline to think about where the sweet note is in any song being composed. It’s great to find out that I’m not alone and crazy.
Thank you for mentioning temperament and the tuning of 3rds on guitar - it's not often talked about how people go about making them work on guitar. I'd love to see you discuss this further (different inversions/amounts of gain/chord progressions with various shapes that are difficult to tune).
It is bullshit to do so on a guitar that is both in tune and properly intonation. Trying to extremely gently bend a string to go from well-tempered tuning to some true temperament tuning is absolute nonsense.
@@Prometheus4096: I believe he is referring to the very subtle tuning issues of guitars with certain scale lengths--such as Gibsons. Rick Beato did a video about Gibsons recently and they touched on this very subject: ua-cam.com/video/9_Xi9GQ48iY/v-deo.html Starting around 31:00. It has to do with the intervals between notes and the length of the fret board (scale length)--it all comes down to mathematics.
Awesome lesson and history behind this Tim!......I'm still amazed after watching all your videos at how much equipment you neatly tuck away in that room..... :)
My Les Paul tormented my OCD so badly, always (seeming) out of tune. Intonation after intonation. It has been shelved from my rig for years. Tim's description of tuning compromises has totally changed my approach and thought process. So glad I found his videos. Hello from another Albuquerque guitar slinger...I remember seeing you at Ned's on the Rio Grande with Peter Parnegg about 20 years ago. A 'stage' I played on for many years after you (and pretended to be THE Tim Pierce). You certainly inspired my brother as an Albuquerque native that took a leap and made it, as he is now a successful bass player in Nashville. Of course, the Tim Pierce signature OD is my go-to, which I still use at the local ABQ bar gigs (pre-COVID) in your honor. :-D Thanks for the inspiration and insight!
dude your home studio is so perfect as a video recording spot, AND IM SURE AUDIO IS A NO BRAINER... Every time i watch your videos your equiptment slowly changes/moves around, again slowley in to they;re perfect spots. Killin it.
Tim you were the most important teacher who pushed me to "jump over" that stair which blocks guitar playing progress and you are still great inspiration. Thank you! PS. Sorry for my "English". :)
Definitely F#-7/E9sus4 on the 2nd chord. The Motley riff is definitely not pushed.... very much on the beat. Easy to forget when explaining it 25 years later....lol. Love the lessons Tim!
What a great story to share, Tim, many thanks. I've said it before and will say it again, there are many great guitar teachers on UA-cam, but you're the most thorough and patient when it comes to getting the music across. Cheers to 2017!
It is a play on the Dr Feelgood riff. Crue tuned to D, the order of the chords are flipped, similar shuffle feel... hit me today in the car that's the riff he was inspired by!
@@kyussvegas 3 years late but he said in another video Michael wanted it to feel like Dr. Feelgood. Heavily paraphrasing because I don't remember the exact story but I remember something about him liking the song and wanting that feel
Fascinating story Tim, thanks for sharing. It shows that playing simple rhythm WELL is not easy! Shame that fast lead break is almost buried in the mix. Still I guess you're glad it was included, and you were credited. Thanks again Tim
YOU worked on the Toy Matinee LP??? WHOA...that is one of the greatest produced records of ALL time! folks...this is what a PRO looks like! I thought the Bill part was Lukather...being a pro studio cat is like a MLB relief pitcher...you must be consistent whether you are "feelin" it or not...there are a lot of guys that can throw a 97mph fastball, but consistent location under pressure is a whole other matter.
Oh man, can you please do a Toy Matinee episode? I would love to know what parts you did on some of that album, especially how to get tones and play some of the parts from "Last Plane Out"
Isn't it interesting how a real pro who is seriously good is so much more down to earth, understanding, and accommodating than some of the jerks on UA-cam who act like they're somebody?
Great bunch of videos Tim. Long way from Mrs Pacheco"s chorus class at Wilson Middle School! If you get a chance it would be cool if you could do some Hughie Thomasson style lesson. Congrats on the UA-cam Channel. You're killin' it as always.
You are a really good guy. Too bad I didn't know you and your theory of The Well Tempered Guitar when I decided to play a 12 string D-28 in 1969. Kottke ruined my life. All the best.
Happy New Year Tim!! Thanks for embarking on this UA-cam venture. Perhaps it's time for a UA-cam or MasterClass contest in which the prize is a Skype lesson with the master himself?
1:35 Eddie Van Halen did that a lot, especially in songs like Unchained, in order to get the chords to sound "in tune" while being slightly out of tune!
Hey Tim Pierce can you do a favourite/basic chord lesson? I feel like I'm getting really comfortable with the fretboard with basic major-minor stuff but I'm still a bit anxious about notation and basic chords and I would Love to hear what you have to say about this, I could just google top 20 chords or something but I thought I might ask as well because you're amazing and I love you're lessons and value you're insight :)
i was never much of a Crue fan never got their massive popularity, though dont get me wrong they had a handful of pretty badass songs mostly earlier on. now if you had said Michael was in love with RATT at that time i would get it. just my personal opinion.
Jan Tscherry I heard him say something about how he didn't play the riff that most people think about. No idea where to find that interview but I do remember he said that... So then... what did he play???
I know it would be a hell of a long list, Tim, but is there somewhere we can see a list of all your parts/songs? I can only imagine how many parts you’ve laid down that I’ve loved over the years...
Sometimes, if I hit a string pretty strong enough, the notes sharpens also a bit, therefore that Eadd9 can be somewhat a little more in tune than it usually should.
You, sir, demonstrate *basics* that most guitar players have never even _thought_ about. Kudos!
I had this amazing teacher who pretty much when he said the guitar being a tempered instrument (which it is lol) when I was tuning up once said to me "you're trying to be too" exact haha
"Michael was in love with Mötley Crüe at that time..." you just made my day!
Tim I’m so glad that you use the word “sweet”” in describing guitar strings being in tune.
For some reason I think it’s a great discipline to think about where the sweet note is in any song being composed.
It’s great to find out that I’m not alone and crazy.
Toy Matinee is one of my favorite albums of all time... big Kevin Gilbert fan too
Apologies for stating the obvious but this guy is a SERIOUSLY good guitarist.
Chris James well yeah, he's Tim Pierce!
Ed Berger that’s blasphemy lol
@Ed Berger derp. The guy in the clip and whose name is the channel name.
@Ed Berger Look up Dunning Kruger Effect and read it to a mirror for 10 minutes, mouth breather.
@Ed Berger You didn't look it up, did you? Not surprised. Ignorant and lazy tends to keep fools like y'all EXACTLY that. Y'all can FO now, tool.
Tim shredding the F**k out of this song !!!!! That was awsome !!!!
Thank you for mentioning temperament and the tuning of 3rds on guitar - it's not often talked about how people go about making them work on guitar. I'd love to see you discuss this further (different inversions/amounts of gain/chord progressions with various shapes that are difficult to tune).
I agree, tuning issues are my biggest frustration in recording guitar and I often find myself re-tuning for every different position on the neck.
It is bullshit to do so on a guitar that is both in tune and properly intonation. Trying to extremely gently bend a string to go from well-tempered tuning to some true temperament tuning is absolute nonsense.
@@Prometheus4096: I believe he is referring to the very subtle tuning issues of guitars with certain scale lengths--such as Gibsons. Rick Beato did a video about Gibsons recently and they touched on this very subject: ua-cam.com/video/9_Xi9GQ48iY/v-deo.html Starting around 31:00. It has to do with the intervals between notes and the length of the fret board (scale length)--it all comes down to mathematics.
Awesome lesson and history behind this Tim!......I'm still amazed after watching all your videos at how much equipment you neatly tuck away in that room..... :)
My Les Paul tormented my OCD so badly, always (seeming) out of tune. Intonation after intonation. It has been shelved from my rig for years. Tim's description of tuning compromises has totally changed my approach and thought process. So glad I found his videos. Hello from another Albuquerque guitar slinger...I remember seeing you at Ned's on the Rio Grande with Peter Parnegg about 20 years ago. A 'stage' I played on for many years after you (and pretended to be THE Tim Pierce). You certainly inspired my brother as an Albuquerque native that took a leap and made it, as he is now a successful bass player in Nashville. Of course, the Tim Pierce signature OD is my go-to, which I still use at the local ABQ bar gigs (pre-COVID) in your honor. :-D Thanks for the inspiration and insight!
Wow ... tempering... what a great term, and overlooked on guitar.
dude your home studio is so perfect as a video recording spot, AND IM SURE AUDIO IS A NO BRAINER... Every time i watch your videos your equiptment slowly changes/moves around, again slowley in to they;re perfect spots. Killin it.
Ahh, Toy Matinee! R.i.p Kevin Gilbert, such a genius.
Tim Pierce, certified guitar player. ;)
Really good to see a genuine guitar man being entrepreneurial and independent, an example to us all!
Loved the Toy Matinee album!!!!!!! Stellar playing!!!!!!!
Tim you were the most important teacher who pushed me to "jump over" that stair which blocks guitar playing progress and you are still great inspiration. Thank you! PS. Sorry for my "English". :)
I love the stories behind the songs. Great video
Definitely F#-7/E9sus4 on the 2nd chord. The Motley riff is definitely not pushed.... very much on the beat. Easy to forget when explaining it 25 years later....lol. Love the lessons Tim!
Sweet! Thanks for this, Tim - what a piece of musical history!
Thanks Tim for de-cloaking another rock classic with your trade secrets shared freely!
wow amazing lesson , very accurate riff ...thks and inspirated me a lot ...
What a great story to share, Tim, many thanks. I've said it before and will say it again, there are many great guitar teachers on UA-cam, but you're the most thorough and patient when it comes to getting the music across. Cheers to 2017!
Tim! Tim! I love the facial expressions! Great feel and tone!!!
Tony Fuentes If you want facial expressions?...see Mark Day guitar ! I
Holy s**t! BLAZING licks from Mr. Pierce!! Awesome :)
Great video and a cool insight in to the world of studio work with the heavyweights. More of the same please Tim.
whew! right out the gate! 👊🤘🤘🤘
WHAAAAAAAT!!! The most amazingly versatile player...:)
Ha ha, great stuff. Tim should do more lessons from his innumerable session appearances on famous tracks, he's a walking anthology of guitar history.
you're a legend Tim
Awesome story with riff lesson
Best clean tone ever
Love your style Tim. I can see why you have done such great things as a guitarist. Keep well sir!
Sounds like the Dr. Feelgood main riff, so maybe that's what you thought about when referencing Motley Crüe!
It is a play on the Dr Feelgood riff. Crue tuned to D, the order of the chords are flipped, similar shuffle feel... hit me today in the car that's the riff he was inspired by!
listen to 'night of the long knives' by ac/dc
I forgot about this song! Definitely a similar shuffle, and nearly a decade before Dr. Feelgood.
@@kyussvegas 3 years late but he said in another video Michael wanted it to feel like Dr. Feelgood. Heavily paraphrasing because I don't remember the exact story but I remember something about him liking the song and wanting that feel
i am NO Crue expert but i was thinking of kickstart my heart. at least on those opening hammer pulls.
Hey Tim! Could you talk about Kevin Gilbert at some point? I would really love that!
great lesson Tim and love the tip about making one string slightly flat so the triad rings sweeter
Wow, man that Intro Music is awesome. Wonderful agressive Rock-Tone!
Tim, you're SHRRRRRRRREDDING!!!!!
Incredible
Tim ripping it up love the Anderson axe and he is a great dude by the way amp sounds so good
Truly great guitar lesson
Listen to this man on tuning.
love that opening solo part on the vid 🖒
Awesomeness
really super Tim.....!
Cheers tim, look forward to the new yr. all good wishes.
Good info....I thought it was Slash the whole time. Luv Pierce and his videos. Monster player!
Motley crews doctor feel good that’s where you got that riff. 😆
Fascinating story Tim, thanks for sharing.
It shows that playing simple rhythm WELL is not easy!
Shame that fast lead break is almost buried in the mix. Still I guess you're glad it was included, and you were credited.
Thanks again Tim
Awesome lesson! Thank you!
YOU worked on the Toy Matinee LP??? WHOA...that is one of the greatest produced records of ALL time! folks...this is what a PRO looks like! I thought the Bill part was Lukather...being a pro studio cat is like a MLB relief pitcher...you must be consistent whether you are "feelin" it or not...there are a lot of guys that can throw a 97mph fastball, but consistent location under pressure is a whole other matter.
Whoa Tim
Great licks....and what a fabulous story. Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
Thank you!!
Wow that intro was sick! Great playing
Legend Tim
yep, we should use this guy.
Your heavy metal riff is reminiscent of DR FEELGOOD!
That's exactly why I scrolled down, during the video. Glad to see I'm not alone.
It reminded me more of Girls, Girls, Girls, but I can hear the Feelgood in there, too.
JOHN PIOTROWSKI
If you like Dr Feelgood
Please check out
the heavy intro on
an earlier recording
by Thin Lizzy:
The Holy War
I thought i was the only one. Reminiscent? He even says a po[.pular song no the radio. Its absolutely DR FEELGOOD!!!!
Oh man, can you please do a Toy Matinee episode? I would love to know what parts you did on some of that album, especially how to get tones and play some of the parts from "Last Plane Out"
Tim you are a great player, & a cool guy! Love your lessons sir! Have a great new year!
great riff that we can't forgot and good lesson too , thank you for sharing;)J-pascal
Isn't it interesting how a real pro who is seriously good is so much more down to earth, understanding, and accommodating than some of the jerks on UA-cam who act like they're somebody?
Tim ...thank u
That third did sound pretty smooth 🤔. I always thought of slightly "flattening" my B string for that purpose. This was a great video! 😎
You're awesome!
Thank you!
Been a fan of yours since the release of Living in Oz. Thanks for the lessons 👍
the solo in the beginning sounds fabulous. whole lot of energy, i like that. it's a pity it did not make it on the album that way.
...good stuff Tim.... Thx
TIM, THANKS FOR THE VIDEO AND THE INFO, EVERY TIME I WATCH ONE OF YOUR VIDEO'S , I WANT TO GO GRAB MY GUITAR, LOL, AND I DO, COUSIN FIGEL
This old dude can shred
Happy new year.You are a Legend sir.Great show.
Hi Tim, Wow !! Great ,impeccable playing , tone and clean infinite sustain..MJ knew what he was doing when he chose you to do this..
you are a walking music history encyclopedia !!
Nah...He's what's contained upon the pages
Great bunch of videos Tim. Long way from Mrs Pacheco"s chorus class at Wilson Middle School! If you get a chance it would be cool if you could do some Hughie Thomasson style lesson. Congrats on the UA-cam Channel. You're killin' it as always.
tdhop1 the outlaws are so underrated especially here in the UK.
Thanks for sharing the story!...
The last part of the chorus of Dr Feelgood!!!...
I always thought this was Slash for some reason!!!!!
Tim great video !!! The riff is kind of like Dr. Feelgood.
Tim, thank you SO much for this video! Is it the same guitar you used for recording that session?
THe riff is sick BUT lets face it, you gave him the riff of Dr Feelgood! ist awesome though!
You are a really good guy. Too bad I didn't know you and your theory of The Well Tempered Guitar when I decided to play a 12 string D-28 in 1969. Kottke ruined my life. All the best.
Cooool!
Happy New Year Tim!! Thanks for embarking on this UA-cam venture. Perhaps it's time for a UA-cam or MasterClass contest in which the prize is a Skype lesson with the master himself?
This is 8 seconds Tim Pierce on Black or White... still great! (from 2.31 until 2.39)
#legend
Dr. Feelgood has a similar riff.
It's totally Dr. Feelgood! :-)
Smoking hot guitarist 🎸 ✌🏼
1:35 Eddie Van Halen did that a lot, especially in songs like Unchained, in order to get the chords to sound "in tune" while being slightly out of tune!
Awesome as usual Tim! I think you might be referencing the Motley Crue song Dr. Feelgood?
sure he does, it's quasi the same riff :)
It's such a Keith Richards type of riff, I've always wondered why he didn't use an open G tuning.
Hey Tim Pierce can you do a favourite/basic chord lesson? I feel like I'm getting really comfortable with the fretboard with basic major-minor stuff but I'm still a bit anxious about notation and basic chords and I would Love to hear what you have to say about this, I could just google top 20 chords or something but I thought I might ask as well because you're amazing and I love you're lessons and value you're insight :)
i was never much of a Crue fan never got their massive popularity, though dont get me wrong they had a handful of pretty badass songs mostly earlier on. now if you had said Michael was in love with RATT at that time i would get it. just my personal opinion.
It must have been great to work with Michael Jackson, his music is timeless. I also checked out wikipedia and yeah, your name is up there, awesome :p
Thought that was played by Slash?!
Nice Guitar, sounds great!
Jan Tscherry I heard him say something about how he didn't play the riff that most people think about. No idea where to find that interview but I do remember he said that... So then... what did he play???
Slash plays part of that intro. Botrell plays the main riff and acoustic guitar and some keys I believe and Mr. Pierce plays what he shows here.
I know it would be a hell of a long list, Tim, but is there somewhere we can see a list of all your parts/songs? I can only imagine how many parts you’ve laid down that I’ve loved over the years...
good job man/!
Great stuff! The Mötley Crüe -riff sounds a bit like Kickstart my heart.
No its Dr Feelgood
The part of Mister Bill Bottrel is fast like the song Hurt So Good of John Mellencamp.
Sometimes, if I hit a string pretty strong enough, the notes sharpens also a bit, therefore that Eadd9 can be somewhat a little more in tune than it usually should.
Wow, who knew
Your move, Pete.