Is cheaper better? || Colbor vs Amaran 60x bi-color lights
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- With Colbor making a $40 cheaper bi-color light, does that mean you should grab it or the classic Amaran 60x? These bi-color lights are super useful and portable. I myself love a good bi-color light and both of these lights are similar in many ways. I hope this comparison helps you decide which might be better to go with.
Comment down below your thoughts!
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@amarancreators @colborlight
I will deal with the chip protector issue ASAP trust me!!
And Big Thanks😘
Happy to hear it :D
@@FellowFilmmaker this makes me more confident on using colbor lighting
Those nato rail slots on the Colbor is compatible with cold shoe mounts so you can use that as a mounting option for various things including other types of light stand mounts.
Sweet, good to know
Oh, that's nice!
@BillStreeter, A flash's hot shoe will fit the Colbors' nato receiver, with a little room to spare top-to-bottom (on a Colbor CL100X); but the Colbor male nato rail is too thick top-to-bottom, for a cold shoe adapter (well, *mine*; don't know if this is universal); just tried it (with a Photek light stand-to-cold shoe swiveling adapter with umbrella hole which fits Godox AD200 extension heads, Godox V1, V860 II, and Nikon SB910 flashes); loosened it all the way. It'll fit laterally, but the rail is too thick top-to-bottom.
Colbor is much more interesting to me. IMO, every sub-100W light should support USB power to work with powerbank or small GaN power adapter. However, I red many complains on quality issues (failed buttons), especially from early adopters. I hope they fixed the issues.
We definitely need really light softbox to complete the puzzle and get a truly compact lighting setup.
Good point to make! :D I see usb-c in more and more light. The iFootage lights have usb-c now too
Hi, thanks for the review,
you can actually use NPF battery in the Colbor but you have to purchase the module separately, it is called COLBOR VAP1+VC50 .
It is around 30 dollars so it makes it about the same price as the amaran.
I just picked up the colbor light because it is smaller and seems more versatile. Also USB-C is a bigger bonus than I think people realize. If you don't have a lot of legacy batteries lying around, it is a huge cost saver to just use a power bank for your phone/tablet. It also means less overall gear when travelling since I usually pack a power bank and usb wall plug anyways.
Also I may replace that cheap plastic cover with a 3d printed one just to make sure the chip is protected.
how long does it run on a usb power bank at 100%? if I had a 65w 20000mah pd bank
Great video! How does the Godox ML60bi compare?
I'll see if I can get that video done in the future :)
For $199 you can buy the RGB version of the Colbor CL60R and it's absolutely gamechanger. Or you can buy bi-color 110 watts Colbor CL100X for the same $199 if you don't need RGB.
Good point :)
In a world of so many options and companies competing, it gets harder and harder to find a truly horrible light/deal
@@FellowFilmmaker very true!
Colbor CL60R's 2700K,5600K intensity is way below than the "normal" Colbor CL60's, because of different type of LED . We've measured in colour mode, very dimmed and eats only up to 20W (instead of 60-65W). Sent it back.
I have owned 2 Colbor both broke. The rocker switches always break on these.
i wonder if all lights are 60W then how come so much difference in power output? Colbor as you show at 3:09 mins has 43000 max lux whereas 60W your fav light Godox ML60bi has just 14900 max lux at 6500k (5:51 mins in your video about that light). so is colbor almost three times brighter than godox? I am confuses. Colbor website also gives 20000 lux as max.
Amaran all the way. Why? Because Aperture is a more established company with a international presence, so when something inevitably goes wrong because that's how technology goes, your return/repair process is going to be far less painful than it will be with the Colbor.
I'm experiencing this the hard way currently. I bought a iFootage Shark Nano slider about 2 years ago. Honestly awesome slider with impressive build and features, that is, when it works. Barely used it. Updated the firmware a few weeks ago, which totally bricked it. Now it just hangs on the load screen into infinity. Unusable now.
After contacting iFootage I would have to send it to China just to get the device factory reset. Guess how much the shipping to China is ? Roughly between 400-$600. The slider cost $800. Protection plans don't reimburse for shipping, and iFootage will not cover shipping past their own warranty period. This doesn't even take into account the months of shipping/customs/repair queue it would take just for a factory reset of the software, nor the language barriers and miscommunications.
Outcome? Allstate cashed me out for the loss minus the deductible, which was generous on their end. Had they not I would have eaten an $800 loss, with no functional slider to speak of.
Conclusion: It's not that the Colbor is a "bad" light. It's probably a great light. The issue with brands from China that are relatively new to the industry is their repair/return process. You have to factor that cost into the total cost of the light. Unless you're comfortable with the idea of eating costs when things go south. For some ppl, the low cost of the product might be worth that exchange, but for me it's a major headache.
I'm going with Aperture. Worth the extra $30-50 imo.
That's a fair point. And I'm sorry to hear of the hassle you encountered. It goes to show that having a US based repair center can be helpful for companies that really want to impact long term in the filmmaking space.
I had been weighing getting a Colbor light to save a few dollars, so I really appreciate this video. I think for the conveniences, as well as light accuracy, I will stick with the Amaran. I have a 60d and it seems as long as the mic is more than 3 feet from the light the fan has never been an issue.
Glad I could help you out! :D
The amaran is still a great light choice if you already own it and use it
I'd consider a 25% cheaper price more than just "a few dollars" ;) also the metal build quality is much better
The main A roll shot looks particularly good in this video. Thought I would mention it, in case you were playing with the setup. Good info too.
Thank you Mark, super kind of you
I didn't play a ton with it lately beyond letting some natural light in
I just bought the 60xs. Very happy with it. You’re right, the case isn’t much to write home about, but the little light is a powerhouse for my tiny studio. I went with the Amaran since I already own the Aperture MC light and I can control both from the same app.
That's great! They are great for home studios for sure
How is it going for you? Is it strong enough to be a key light in a small studio? I'm having a bit of trouble deciding between 60ds and 100ds
Great review! I wanted to buy the Colbor Cl60r, but I think I'll choose the Amaran 60xs because of the mounting bracket. I want to mount the light on a ball head :/
Thanks for the comprehensive review. Given your expertise, would you consider making a video like “Which light to buy in 2023” in the 60W class and/or the 150W class? I feel I’ve lost track of all those different models (if I ever was on track 😮).
Haha, yeah that is a good idea for sure! Thanks
Fantastic review/comparison. Exactly what I needed. Thank you SO very much for this!!😊
You are so welcome!
Very nice review!
I just switched from the Amaran 60X S the the Colbor CL60.
What I like about the Colbor vs the Amaran: quieter fan operation, lighter, aluminium body, extension capabilities with the rails, nicer travel bag (the Amaran case is a nightmare to pack everything back) and the price obviously.
What I will miss from the Amaran: native Bowen mount, secure power plug, nicer Sidus Link app, protected LED with glass, better quality wheel control, faster responsiveness to light changes.
I hope you’re happy with yourself!You made me buy the 60x!! Now I have a whole new set of evolution to get into. This is my first foray into the Bowen Mount and judging by your other videos I have all kinds of other toys to get. Snoots. Projectors. Fresnels! Oh man, my wife’s not gonna be happy with this!!
Thanks for the awesome videos. I found you via shorts and have been binging your stuff ever since. I’m just finishing up my office/studio remodel so it’s perfect timing. Similar size space to what you have.
Looking forward to your next vid!
Thanks for sharing Dave! So cool you found me via shorts, I didn't know if anyone had found the channel that way. :D
@@FellowFilmmaker That’s why I mentioned it. As a fellow UA-camr I know the question marks around shorts vs long form (or at least the debate in MY head). Love your stuff and your style. Keep doing what you do! 💪🏼
When I see a light video by Fwellow Filmmaker, I click on it! Again, thanks for using the same reflectors on both light when testing the output. As someone who likes switching reflectors, this data is very useful!
Glad I could help! :D Love knowing what ya'll find useful too
I think you failed to call out the Amaran on a couple of flaws
I've owned one and wound up selling it
While I loved the concept, there are two flaws with the design
The first floor is that threaded adaptor spins loose under normal use there's no locking pin and the way the plastic slopes near the mount makes it almost impossible to find a quick release plate that will fit
The other flaw is the V adaptor plate that built-in unfortunately Amaran would've done better to put the controls on the side of the unit and have the vmount on the back of the unit for better balance when using with batteries.
One other incident I had when travelling with the unit ..
Packed in a separate case with other camera gear airport security repacked it wrong and the glass window for the LCD screen broke.
What they have right about that unit is the way it's designed for airflow helps keep the unit cool when using compact light modifiers
I was going to say the app was a flaw because it's far too complicated for a simple run and gun content creator that doesn't want the app to phone every fucking time you open it
But as I understand it, they've released a new app that I haven't looked at yet, so I'll reserve judgement
Hi, Just a question. Currently owned a colbor cl60 and update the firmware using colbor edgemax but stuck in 0%
Great review! Very curious how the Colbor CL60M would compare to the new and improved Amaran 60D S.
I've not yet used the new Amaran, but I'll consider it perhaps soon
For those who work with makeup, iPhone film, I would like a powerful light, I have two yongnoo 600 LEDs, my room is small, can you help me?
Very good comparison. But I'm surprised that you never talk about the temperature that the projector reaches. In the years when we used projectors with overvoltage halogen lamps we knew that the duration normally did not exceed 100 hours, and the projector worked at temperatures of more than 200ºC, although with mercury vapor lamps the duration is longer. LEDs cannot exceed a working temperature Tj of 110ºC, significantly reducing their average life. It is normal to keep them below 70ºC. If the size of the radiator or ventilation (low noise fan) is small, the life of the LEDs will be reduced, as will the electronic components and the LCD display itself. What duration do manufacturers guarantee?
Really wished the Colbor had a proper power input. I really don't like relying on a USB connector on a set.
It has an aluminium body, which is great as most smaller lights are plastic. But then fails on the connector side.
If I had this in a studio mounted to a ceiling and always on, could I power and control it completely remote?
Colbor now comes with a rubber cap, instead of that condiment plastic you received.
that's good :)
Threaded mounts should be banned.
Just got my colbor cl60. The issues are already addressed. It now has a soft rubber cap and the led itself has now a plastic protection. The only gripe I have is it wont pair via nluetooth no matter what device i use.
Hello Jeff, how’s the light accuracy? Read some comments saying it has a green cast
Hey! :) Have you tried the Inkee 60w lights ? they are amazing !
Excellent review. You really nailed the important details and you made it easy to understand. Thank you.
Glad I could help :) thanks for watchings
Amaran is like a copy of yungnuo which was released a year ago.
Hi, thanx for comparision video. But what about NEEWER CL-60B? Can you compare with Colbor?
Thanks for watching
I'm not used the Neewer light, but it's very similar in some ways to the Godox SL60w - which I did just do a review/comparison to the Colbor here on the channel
oh no... new lights again.... I haven't used up all the lights you reccomended yet....lol
Anyways... good information... thanks...
Haha :D
I love the Amaran portability for outdoor shooting BUT- with two 6,000 mAh batteries on 100% power -it last only about 1 hour. that's a shame.
Yeah most of these little lights at 100% can't do more than an hour
i fall in love with u 😭😭😭 how cute u are 😭
thanks so much for doing this video, looking for a setup for my desk at home that is small and minimal for UA-cam. What do you think of the Amaran 60xs with the aputure 4545 softbox and can you recommend a desk mount?
Looking for something to just set up and leave on the desk that is super small. Setting up lights every time I do a video is just too much of pain
I've got a video on the Amaran 4545 and 60x actually :D Here: ua-cam.com/video/P05M13EeYeA/v-deo.html
For a desk mount I personally enjoy this one: geni.us/vSD2H2
But if you want something that attaches to the desk then this one is good: amzn.to/3UG2TZJ
for an even smaller footprint, is there a light panel you like to go on the mounts? I really just want something to hold a zv-e1 and a soft light @@FellowFilmmaker
thanks so much for helping me out!@@FellowFilmmaker
If you want lights that are easy to work with, I assume a key light, you could use a panel light but they tend to still be on the harder light side since they are a smaller light source (even with a bit of a diffusor on it, like the included ones). Are you just game live streaming and dont' mind or are you wanting really pleasing light?
@@FellowFilmmaker no more for UA-cam talking head stuff. So I am after a softer light. So I guess I have to go the soft box route
Amazing review, but how is the luminance value completely different from the colborlight website that is 22540Lux (at 1m 5600K, With Reflector)? your measurement shows 43000 LUX
Having been a stills photographer for over 35 years (recently moved away from it) and investing in shooting iphone filmmaking content, I'm struggling with how compact to go with at most a 2 light setup. My #1 need is sufficient light output for shooting interviews with a sufficient sized softbox/light modifier for softer light while at the same time maintaining portability/remote location flexibility (literally no wall power available so battery power is a must have). Budget is a concern of course. I do have several different sized Chimera photo softboxes already with bowens mount speedrings that I used with my old Buff monolights. Given the limitations of shooting content on mobile devices (typically shooting interviews in 24p/30p on either the native iPhone camera app in cinematic mode, Blackmagic Camera app or Moment App) I'm unsure if the 60 watt output is sufficient for shooting interviews given I've always shot interviews with traditional hot lights on hybrid type cameras. I do have a variable ND for shooting content with the iphone - any suggestions???
I wonder, if @colborlight could've make an attacheble COB protective glass accessory for their lights. It probably could be magnetically attached to these two screws on the front - unlike the heatsink, these probably made out of steel, so powerful enough neodimium magnet should do the good job in addressing this unfortunate issue.
That's a very well thought out idea, I imagine they should definitely consider that :)
Got it. We will think about how to achieve this.
Happy to see you listening
Thanks, I'll be sending people to this video
Thanks! Super appreciative of that level of support :)
The Amaran also has much lower output at 1% , which gives more control and flexibility.
Been waiting for this video
Awesome! I hope it's helpful for you!
Yeah sure
how long does it run on a usb power bank at 100%? if I had a 65w 20000mah pd bank
There was of zhiyun portable light reviews last month, what is your take, which one is the best small ones?
I'm working on that review as well :D
@@FellowFilmmaker looking forward
Thanks! This was solid info! Someone knows what they are talking about! :)
Thanks for answering most of my questions.
Any time!
What brightness settings are you using in your studio? Thanks!
If you're willing to answer a little more, What modifiers are you using? What is your final lux reading on your face and on the wall? What exposure settings?
Super helpful comparison! Thank you so much for these insights!
Very glad I could help you :)
I have the 60D, which has been a nice little light, but I concider the 1/4 20 on the Amaran a con as when I put a modifier on it, it tends to sometimes spin around where the Colbor looks more solid of a connection. The fan on the 60D is barely audible in my opnion, my on camera monitor (external) is much louder!
That's a good point. I think the 60d has a locking pin on the light, but they are not Arri style so it's kind hard to get things to stay firmly in place
@@FellowFilmmaker Unfortunately, there is no locking pin. I have had this issue mutiple times with the 60D. This would have been great, since it would still be just as compatable with non locking accessories. The case isn't that bad, it looks to me like they made a case out of the foam inserts that usually come inside a boxed item and get tossed... but slightly upgraded.
I have the Colborcl60 and 220- WOW these are my fav buget non rental brand now -
Great to hear!
I'm thinking to buy your same setup, cl60 and cl220.
After 8 months you're still Happy about It?
The Usb-c on the 60 doesn't look very solid...
Thanks
it's it possible to just glue a little bit of glass in front of the colbor yourself?
over here it differs €60. and if not for that exposed led I would definitely buy that one
Can you buy a dc to usb c Cable and use the amaran also with powerbank pd?
Weird your Colbor CL60 came like that. Mine came with a really nice protective bag and the cob LED came with a thick black soft rubber protection instead of the cheap transparent plastic one you got (also seems to be heat resilient as I mistakenly turned the light with the cap on for like 15 seconds and luckily nothing bad happened). Maybe they made some changes to the new batch? Got mine a couple of days ago. Also the USB-C power adapter looks different than the one I received. Great video btw, thanks!
thank you for the feed back.. but I think you are team Amaran! lol
Hey, at the time 3:25. What is that bar called that's connected to both the light & Camera?
that would have been cool if you had examples
Amaran battery is sony??? what is the biggest battery it can use???
You can put a V-mount on it if you get the d-tap adapter for it. I've mentioned this in another video as well.
If you mean NPF, then you can do the hightest one which I think is a NPF970
I only carry NPF-970 batteries on my filming projects. The light last longer than you would expect with these batteries. I was surprised and am very satisfied.
Yes it really does :D
I like putting my v-mount on them too. Gotta get the adapter of course to do that, but still really helpful!
@@northcoaststudios thanks 🙏🏼
I already have some bigger lights, I'm looking for a little light like these who would works out of batteries, I have a V-mount batt. and some big USB banks. Can't decide between both of these for power. V-Mount or USB? what do you think? thanks
With a small adaptor you can have a Vmount battery attached on the side of the colbor.
What an awesome review! I subscribed. Keep up the great work, FF!
Cool video, that was a good comparoson! Could you compare the colbor cl100x with the zhyiun molus x100? That comparison would be awsome and anyome has done it yet!
I don't have either of those lights at the moment, so I'll have to see if I swing the purchase at some point
Which one is more brighter and which has colour cast issue where the comparision test? how long a Colbor last on a 10000 mAh powerbank ? No details about these all things what kind of review is this ?
The light readings are in the video, if that is what you're looking for
always useful your input 👍
for how long can last the coolbor with a external usb battery with 30000mha 100w at max power?
I'm not sure as I don't have a battery with those exact specs
Do you have any suggestions for options less than $100?
no, not really. Usually pretty junk stuff under $100
It's 1:08 and I already know Amaran should not be purchased, as it has functions (special effects control) that can only be done via app. We have no knowledge of how long apps will be updated and/or supported in new (or old, when years passes) phones. Also, I can have my phone battery dead, or phone malfunction, or need the app on another phone but there's no signal because maybe I'm somewhere in the wild and I cannot download the app...
All these reason, I would NEVER EVER buy anything (lights, cameras, monitors, you name it, anything electronic) that hasn't ALL the functions controllable directly on the device with physical buttons and switches; I can spend maybe 20$ on something like that, and consider it disposable. This "app-mania" should stop, If I buy professional equipment I expect it to work for the next 15/20 years, and so I cannot trust anything that works with external apps.
That's a very important note for sure, thanks for pointing it out
Bro.. this isn't pro equipment.. and now days you can't have your phone with out battery on you ..
@@samarianosans everybody makes its own decisions, if I spend more then 50$ than it's not disposable, pro or not pro; and if it's not disposable, it needs to be working for the next 10/15 years min, and 20 years if it cost more then 500$ (of course it also depends on the item; a 100$ Manfrotto light stand I expect it to work even in 30, or 50 years from now).
Also with the phone, I use it as it please me, I've an old 4" iPhone SE (the very first one, same size of iPhone 5) that I use for phone calls and WhatsApp, I can use it with one hand and fit any pocket, I have no photo/lights control apps in there, I don't know if they even install on such an old phone, and I don't even care, for me my phone it's a phone, and photo/light devices needs to be fully controllable from their own menus, buttons and switches. I accept that many other doesn't feel the same, it's ok, but this is how I works and my opinion, so I feel free to speak it. And I feel free, of course, to buy stuff the fits my guidelines.
do you know the Yongnuo ynlux100 and the Yongnuo ynlux200?
Heard of them I think, but haven't used them
After I found out that Amaran suddenly stops working after 30 minutes and that the Aputure app "steals" your data, I opted for Colbor. And I'm quite happy with it.Mine came with a silicone led's protector
Colbor doesn't have phone app control, right?
It does, the app is pretty good too
Thanks for the video!!!
It is surprising how off center the umbrella is in the Amaran bracket! It would be cool if the light had the umbrella bracket on the body!
Being honest I really like how the Colbor actually held its ground so well! Even if I have some Nanlites I may pick some to shoot oudoors with usb-c battery banks!
True, it is odd it's so off
Zhiyun molus vs amaran would be great
Working on it!
colbor is best cause of usb c and design material price also
It is neat to see those in a light at that price point
Hello do i need to buy a special usb c cable to power it with a powerbank ? and which output for the pb ?
Yes you would have to, it has to be able to supply a certain wattage and voltage. I believe its something like 100w delivery.
@@FellowFilmmaker thanks, someone told me to buy a powerbank with an ac input and use the cable delivered with the cob
What's the difference on the Colbor fan settings between smart and quiet? Also, when you slide two Colbor lights together, do the rails lock somehow?
Really I couldn't tell. They sounded the same to me! :D
And yes they lock a bit, hard to get it if you slide it fast. But here are spring loaded ball-bearings that hold it in place
@@FellowFilmmaker thanks!
@jamesburton1050, on the Colbor (60-watt and 100-watt lights), the left side and right side have rails, the top and bottom have female receivers for rails.
would be interesting what you think about the Colbor CL60R (RGB version) 🙂
I don't have it right now, maybe I'll look into reviewing it
@@FellowFilmmaker ah cool thanks. The brightness is a bit lower than the daylight and bi colour version. I am planning to buy it for a youtube studio to be used as key light together with a 90cm softbox. There should not be a brightness issue? I have good camera and fast primes...
If you have full control over the space (i.e. no direct sunlight spilling into the space), it should work.
Would love to see your thoughts on the hobo lights
Not sure I've heard of those before...
thanks! IMHO, the USB is the most important aspect (beside the awful CB60 bag) . I love the idea of power-bank. a set of 4 V- mount NP F790 8800mAh batteries with a charger costs about 100$. Power-Banks are smaller, cheaper, stronger and you can charge them anywhere and faster. I think all the big lights brands will start to deliver USB options very soon.
Probs you need a powerful powerbank. I have the colbot and i bought a 65 w pd to power it and it goes to 55-60% power max so I don't know with nf it goes to 100%
@@Ey3shi3ldtv didn't knew it... Tnx
@@Ey3shi3ldtv Hi, you need a 80W PD power bank at least, since the Colbor CL60 series is 80W max. power.
I think usb is becoming more popular with entry level lights
We have UGREEN 145W power bank for Colbor CL60, it runs at 4000K , 75% intensity continuously 90 minutes. (you cannot discharge the battery fully to 0%)
Which batteries exactly did you buy to power the amaran, wirelessly?
NPF 750's off Amazon, no specific brand really just whichever give me good output
@@FellowFilmmaker I saw elsewhere NPF 550 as well, would those work too?
I don't think they'd run the light very long. I'd say 750's are the minimum if you want to run it for awhile. Even with 750's you can't do 100% output for more than a few minutes maybe.
@@FellowFilmmaker sorry for too many questions , would NPF970s work for them?
Yes they would! You'll get alot more run time if you use 970's
GReat review!
Thanks!
Great Video
Thanks!
Hi, great video!
I'm doing some short films and looking to buy my first light,
is one of them significantly better than the other for my situation?
I'd say if you value a cheap light neither is a bad choice. So if you have other needs then you'll buy according to those. For short films tho, I'd say def get bi-color lights
Hi ! Thank you very much for sharing this video. I'm looking for a versatile rgb light so I'm wondering if I should go for the tiny USB-C Colbor CL60R, the V-mount compatible (sold out/upcoming?) Neewer MS60C OR bulkier (quieter?) Amaran 150C. I can't find how is color blending rgb dots on COBs and result through Fresnel lens. Do you plan to do an overall rgb comparison?
Cheers
The rgb version I have has a silicone cover for the front of the light and there is a glass in front of the “chip”. I live in Europe and I f I convert it into dollars it cost roughly the same as the bicolor version you mentioned in the video. Great video non the less. 👌
i got the cl100xm daylight ones, for about £110 off aliexpress delivered. was HALF the price of amazon. delivered from china via germany if thats where you live, you will get it quicker than me.
Good to know, thank you!
breathe, you don't need to talk so fast :)
Haha thanks