Roger Gracie Teaches his Cross Choke from Mount - Estrangulamento da Montada
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Roger ensina seu famoso estrangulamento da montada.
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get.adobe.com/f.... It worked for me.
This is from Brazilian TV channel Combate. I didn't add subs to the last part because it's just a repetition.
Thanks for this. Only instructional I've ever seen of Roger himself showing this.
@luizsacchi at least the transcript still works, thanks for posting this by the way! pure gold
Thanks a lot for the vid man.
Also, the detail at 2:02, how he pushes the head to create space for the arm (a very nice detail, I'm stealing that :D), is not allowed in Judo. You are not allowed to push an opponents head or face, so stop comparing BJJ to Judo, it's a completely different ruleset and game.
I thought I was being trolled. Subtitles really do work.
@delaseoul87 You can do the choke with both palms facing in, both facing out or one in each direction, with very similar set ups. In japanese they have different names for those: nami juji jime, kata juji jime and gyaku juji jime, though I don`t remember which one is which...
Muito top!!
captions aren't working for me, when I hit the cc button the little exclamation point just pops up. Thoughts?
What did he say?
He doesn't go as deep with the first hand as I thought he would. I've always heard to reach for the tag to go in as deep as possilbe which is tough when mounted, and if Roger is doing it that shallow, I'm going to take his word for it. Going to try to hit this more.
@luizsacchi Thats right, this guy is the michael jordan, muhammad ali, pelé etc. of BJJ. But who else than a member of the gracie family should it be...
all my respct for brazilian teachers they teach from heart by details, unlike japanese teacher u never get his point!!
OSU!
Seems like a forearm choke kinda
The only thing i have trouble with this choke from the mount position is preventing my opponent from bumping me off of his by using the bridge and roll technique. I do everything right, or so i think, but when i get the second grip on my opponent's collar, he just bridges all the time and ends up in my guard. Now i know i can still finish the choke from there but it's much easier for my opponent to defend it, help anyone?
Gi choke is good but the marine choke is better. No need for a gi and I've never seen ANYONE DO IT IN ANY MMA MATCH
LOL he would hit it on all your little Judokas. NO JUDOKA does this as well as Roger.
To hell with all these fancy gard systems and flying rubber nelsons! It's all about the fundamentals!
Just letting ppl know that the CC worked for me too.
;)
@kanguesso fix your weight distribution. when the second hand goes inside, remember to place your head on the mat. keep your knees tight also...anyway, ask your trainer, he should know better
@KatameDo
It's the way he does it man that makes it so special. That cross collar choke is a real difficult submission to get on a good opponent.
In life you have solution for almost everything at list a mount choke from Roger Gracie.
The gi is like extremly useful. The best train in gi's. Fact
Reminder, possibly the best technical fighter in the world was also one of the nicest guys. You don’t need a bad attitude and tats
Judo guys...The point here is in details of an "old" technique, not some groundbreaking new technique. This is also the difference in BJJ and Judo, while you learn some of the same techniques, the attention to details on the ground is much greater in BJJ than in Judo. This is a fact, because ground-game is almost inexistant in competitive judo, hence trainers don't accord a lot of time to ground techniques. It's the same reason why a lot of BJJ practitioners aren't good on their feet.
Why is it that with every BJJ vid, there has to be someone complain and argue that its just Judo? Same thing goes if its a Judo vid. Some ass has to pipe up and say "bjj is better" Just do both! If your ego won't allow you to accept that "your" style doesn't have all the answers, you're missing out on some great technique.
@luizsacchi, yeah, I find it interesting that he has one palm facing in, and the other facing out... i learned it both palms facing in (towards your body).
thank you bro
Said it all. Marcelo has x guard and stuff like that, but he does it in a very efficient way.
why are you watching a bjj video then ? my mom can throw punches and i rekon cave man did aswell but i will still watch a world champ boxer and listen if he is telling me how he does it. with out giving him shit and telling him he didnt invent the punch.
BJJ Gold? This is just a Kata-Juji-Jime.
It's been around much longer than BJJ.
thanks for sharing!!
great details,cheers!last choke looks like a ezekiel
You don't need subtitles to see what he is doing.
the greatest ever
@Svittidiu hes married with a little boy
king mo??
@kanguesso fix your weight distribution. when the second hand goes inside, remember to place your head on the mat. keep your knees tight also...anyway, ask your trainer, he should know better
@eugen1225 Thanks, my trainer was choked out via cross collar choke from the mount by Roger Gracie at the World BJJ Championships.
Roger is amazingg hes beaten all my fav grapplers and has never been submitted. That is amazing. I just wish he knew how to speak english :( i mean he has an english name. Haha
exactly! hhahaha... BJJ do everything they can to sell! we have in traditional Ju Jutsu Ryu - Kosen Judo - Sambo..... this has been around much longer than BJJ sport.
Roger Gracie -> nothing fancy, but the best ever.
@DARQMX He does speak English (and his academy is in London) but this seminar was in Portugal.
This will have over 1000 views by the end of today
Thank you for this detailed instruction. I can rarely get this to finish. BTW guys it went from Kano to Maeda to Gracie. Back then they didn't differentiate between jujutsu, judo, or jiu-jitsu. Read a book. What school or sensei was more important.
...all from me. j/k
kinda..
@KatameDo aaanyway... Judo comes from Japanese Jiu Jitsu.. so...
I cant thank you enough. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
When did this air?
@davidpawlus Helo David, there is subtitle on this video.
SWEEEET, Luiz and Thanks Dan for pointing me in the right direction!
Thanks for the link, Dan: interesting stuff.
o legal sempre quis aprende essa finalizaçao que o roger sempre usou
Legal demais, é bem eficaz ! no canal combate sempre passa umas aulas boas
Roger Gracie's cross choke is his own cross choke.
Okay Eddie Bravo...
Sneaky variation!
Thanks a shittonne for this!
AMEN BROTHER
Uh huh.
@KatameDo douche
kata-juji-jime
Physical Activity Science ua-cam.com/video/eiuebxkO9xg/v-deo.html it seems pretty different to me.
SEM A MONTADA O JIU JITSU NAO E NADA
This is Judo. It has been around longer than BJJ. This technique is originally Ju-Justu technique that was modified for competition.
This is also Takenouchi Ryū and a variety of other arts that long predate judo. What the fuck is your point? Or, do you just have to run around sticking labels on things like a five year old? This particular version is fairly specific to Roger Gracie and it's worth looking at the details of how he applies it.
dean lanning That's right Dean, this is called Kata Juji Jime in Judo. Carlos Gracie learned Judo, which was then more Known as Kano Jiu Jitsu, or just Jiu Jitsu at the time. There are two videos of Helio Gracie declaring that his brother learned Judo. They Learned with Mitsuyo Maeda or his students. Maeda was a judoka. So, if they had learned from a Judoka, they learned Judo.
falmeida59 What they learned from Maeda was judo and whatever else Maeda knew but for the sake of argument, let's call it judo. What they produced was something else. If it's your contention that this is impossible then how did Kano produce Judo from jiu-jitsu?
The Gracie family also learned freestyle wrestling and a number of other arts to fill in the gaps in what they knew. Thus Gracie Jiu-jitsu is something new. This is a demonstrable fact.
Edmond Dantez my dear, i am brazilian. I've been trainning judo and BJJ, for a long long time and I can state that this is Judo. Have you ever trainned Judo in your life? Have you ever watched some old school judo videos such as from Tsunetame Oda or Mifune? Or even Kosen? I once believed like you do, that the gracies had learnt something else, something called Jiu Jitsu. But they didn't. They learned judo. I Know them. They develloped newasa more than any other judokas ever did, but it's still Judo.
falmeida59 I started training Judo when I was six and I've trained GJJ with Rorion, Relson, Ryron, Rener and Grand Master Helio himself. Read my post again before you misrepresent my position ... again. Here, I'll quote myself so you don't get confused again "Sweetie". "What they learned from Maeda was judo and whatever else Maeda knew." By the way, if you think this is how cross chokes were taught in judo outside Brazil before about 1993, you're delusional. GJJ also has standing techniques, strikes, kicks, etc. that judo does NOT have and is trained and taught in an entirely different way from judo. You simply don't know wtf you're talking about.