I ditched Spotify because of THIS

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
  • Today I'm discussing the four services I've been using to buy and actually own DRM-free music. Digital ownership is harder and harder to come by nowadays, and thanks to these sources of high fidelity music I was able to happily cancel my Spotify subscription and once again take control of my media consumption.
    Let me know what you guys think in the comments!
    Sites mentioned:
    www.hdtracks.com/
    www.qobuz.com
    www.apple.com/itunes/
    bandcamp.com/
    0:00 Intro
    0:58 Service #1
    2:56 Service #2
    4:18 Service #3
    5:45 Service #4
    6:51 Outro

КОМЕНТАРІ • 446

  • @MmntechCa
    @MmntechCa 4 місяці тому +569

    I think as awareness grows about the pitfalls of this "you will own nothing" future, demand for physical and DRM-free digital will increase. Much like we saw with vinyl records a decade ago. I bought CDs recently for the first time in probably 20 years. Just rip them to your music player of choice, and the discs themselves will last forever if well cared for. No monthly fees, no concern about licenses being revoked or songs getting shuffled out rotation. An external Bluray drive is also a good investment.

    • @Nyhee
      @Nyhee 4 місяці тому +25

      Disc rot says hi🤪

    • @tadghcr2175
      @tadghcr2175 4 місяці тому +13

      Mostly agree! Having different backups can avoid different types of degradation. That's also why I wouldn't personally recommend iTunes without IMMEDIATELY backing up; Apple has taken back random tracks from albums I've bought in full before.

    • @Henkibojj
      @Henkibojj 4 місяці тому +20

      ​@@NyheeDisc rot has mostly affected cheap CD-R and one audio CD pressing back in the 90's which I believe they compensated in full. Either way, burn it to bluray and you won't have any disc rot since it doesn't get affected by sunlight.

    • @coke8077
      @coke8077 4 місяці тому +14

      Having the file itself is awesome but having the CD is even better. Along with the nice case and little booklets most CDs come with, you get an insurance on your music so that if your files get corrupted you can always go back to your physical CD and re-rip it. Plus no one can ever take it away from you just because a licensing deal or something expired.

    • @pandaitis0157
      @pandaitis0157 4 місяці тому +6

      Also if you don't wanna buy cds, you could check the library first before buying digital to see if they have it.

  • @ROSACEPONY
    @ROSACEPONY 4 місяці тому +86

    I've grown by having music locally on my PC, i did tryed Spotify, Soundcloud, UA-cam but what i hate about these is that when you make a playlist and if a song in your playlist get removed, you will not know it.

  • @justafidemyself
    @justafidemyself 4 місяці тому +400

    Spotify is great for discovering NEW music that I can BUY on physical mediums IF they are available. A lot of indie artists don't have their music on CD or Vinyl.

    • @MrPedromuriel
      @MrPedromuriel 4 місяці тому

      annnnd if you cant buy them physically, its always nice to track down the artists bandcamp or website and buy the digital download.

    • @zaheeralghul2509
      @zaheeralghul2509 4 місяці тому +9

      This is what I do.

    • @khaldub
      @khaldub 4 місяці тому

      Must depend on the genre. A lot of the indie hip-hop and drum and bass I listen to sell cassettes, CDs and vinyl through Bandcamp. Merch too!

    • @kevinh96
      @kevinh96 4 місяці тому +16

      Agreed, but another great source of new music is right here in good old UA-cam. I tend to spend an evening just clicking on recommended artists, then clicking on others recommended when playing that track and so forth. I end up down a rabbit hole and always find a new artists I really like. I'll then stream on Spotify to hear more of their stuff and end up buying the physical CD or even vinyl often direct from their website or via their label directly.

    • @CLOYO
      @CLOYO 4 місяці тому +5

      SoundCloud does this pretty good as well!

  • @domovoi_0
    @domovoi_0 4 місяці тому +220

    BAndcamp is the boss. So much awesome music there and the writeups were the best in the industry.
    Sad the writing team got gutted recently.
    Love and blessings!

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому +18

      That’s such a bummer to hear. I’ll have to do more reading about that. Hopefully they don’t replace any of those people with AI writing! Thanks for your comment buddy!

    • @hclyrics
      @hclyrics 4 місяці тому +1

      As a musician myself, Bandcamp is THE best platform to purchase from if you want to support your favorite artists when buying digital.

    • @KevinJDildonik
      @KevinJDildonik 4 місяці тому +1

      Bandcamp is dead. They were sold to conglomerate Songtradr, who immediately laid off tons of staff especially writers. It's just a countdown until other parts of the service you like are axed. Download your tracks and have an exit plan.

  • @EduFirenze
    @EduFirenze 4 місяці тому +22

    I was pretty confortable with the all difital life until last week my town got hit with a massive storm, no internet for almost a week. No music, no movies and most games dont start without internet. That experience made me realize I own nothing I paid for.

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому +2

      Yes you don’t notice until it’s gone, I completely agree with you! Having some media you own is key for maintaining some emotional comfort/morale during outages like that.

    • @EduFirenze
      @EduFirenze 4 місяці тому +1

      @@spencers-adventures funny enough, I took my sega genesis out of storage and had a blast. Glad I kept it.

    • @TheBlueGoldenHawk
      @TheBlueGoldenHawk 4 місяці тому

      most single player games should be fine with no internet. But yeah I own most of my fave movies and games on disc

    • @polarvortex6601
      @polarvortex6601 4 місяці тому +1

      for this type of issues emulation can be your friend, you can play old systems on any modern PC nowadays. hell you can even do the same even on tablets and some high end phones

    • @kimutone2970
      @kimutone2970 4 місяці тому +1

      Yep, worse with games as a service, they are borderline illegal. I embraced the pirate life a long ago when I realized they provided a better end product than the one I got by paying.

  • @sanjsahayam5271
    @sanjsahayam5271 4 місяці тому +95

    Bandcamp is amazing. There are some bigger artists on there as well.

    • @king_clueless
      @king_clueless 4 місяці тому

      Love Bandcamp. It's been around for ages but somehow people still finding out about it 😮

    • @FlameForgedSoul
      @FlameForgedSoul 4 місяці тому +5

      Sadly it's future is in doubt in recent days.

  • @JordanEstes
    @JordanEstes 4 місяці тому +70

    I love this digital minimalism mindset. It’s such a refreshing take. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому +3

      I’m glad to hear your enjoyed it and thanks very much for the kind words!

  • @mooseymoose
    @mooseymoose 4 місяці тому +136

    Bandcamp helped me find some of my favorite new artists; Dirtwire, Skinshape, Madison Cunningham, Kaitlin Aurelia Smith, Matthew Halsall, Descarte a Kant, so many! People say there is nothing new that is any good, but they just aren’t looking.

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 4 місяці тому +2

      Skinshape is cool

    • @TheJackal917
      @TheJackal917 4 місяці тому +2

      Gramps like me say that a lot.

    • @futsuu
      @futsuu 4 місяці тому +1

      Bandcamp is superior!! I buy so many records and tapes.

    • @overlordh1254
      @overlordh1254 4 місяці тому +2

      You ought to check out; The Budos Band, Khruangbin, and Men I Trust, if you like Skinshape.

    • @overlordh1254
      @overlordh1254 4 місяці тому

      Domi & JD Beck are pretty damn good if you like jazz.

  • @dotapark
    @dotapark 4 місяці тому +18

    I really wish movie industry to stop DRM digital and embrace what has been happened to the other media…I think movie pirates are booming because people can’t actually buy movies, but just rent them with streaming services…I was surprised when I found out even iTunes movies are locked in there platform.

  • @Henkibojj
    @Henkibojj 4 місяці тому +32

    Just gonna put a niche solution out there for you to ponder: Buy or borrow CDs from the library, return or sell them to avoid clutter, but before that, rip them in lossless format and then burn them to BD-R. It's still "physical" though without the covers and everything, doesn't suffer disc rot, the discs are ¢50 each and hold 25 GB so great value per gigabyte. If my math serves me right, that's just under 2000 five minute songs in 320 kbps. And 200 ten track albums for less than a dollar isn't bad. If you really want to go the extra mile, you can scan all the covers and booklet pages too, even the CD, but by that point I think it's getting out of hand.

    • @BakouMOH
      @BakouMOH 4 місяці тому +5

      I have over 300 full albums ripped from CDs to FLAC format on a 250 GB micro SD card and I still have plenty of room. ;)

    • @h.b.5577
      @h.b.5577 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@BakouMOH Do be careful with cheap flash storage, especially sd cards or flash drives, all too easy to have them die on you at the worst possible time with their limited write cycles and often low end components. It's always important to back up important data, but doubly so with a setup like yours where (I presume) the files are accessed quite frequently.

    • @toddjohnson616
      @toddjohnson616 3 місяці тому

      ​@@BakouMOHsell me a copy

  • @maxguy9623
    @maxguy9623 4 місяці тому +46

    Something else I recommend is buying CDs you love, ripping them then reselling if you want to avoid clutter

    • @accountid9681
      @accountid9681 4 місяці тому +13

      ripping is legal, but reselling after ripping is illegal. Not to say that it's immoral, I'm not judging, just think people should be aware.

    • @Ad-Ac
      @Ad-Ac 4 місяці тому

      ​@@accountid9681no one can tell or prove that you previously ripped a cd that you just sold.

    • @CarbonatedTurtle
      @CarbonatedTurtle 4 місяці тому +3

      I've gotta ask. Where is there a market for used CDs in 2024? People can't even give used CDs away anymore.

    • @Ad-Ac
      @Ad-Ac 4 місяці тому

      @@CarbonatedTurtle ebay? huge collections og cds might be worth quite a bit

    • @jacobkellyy1181
      @jacobkellyy1181 4 місяці тому

      There's plenty of people like myself who rather use CDs I myself am only 18 and love collecting old stuff like Casey's and CDs and record's​@@CarbonatedTurtle

  • @RobertLaneTech
    @RobertLaneTech 4 місяці тому +8

    Some artists have stores on their own sites that carry CDs and Vinyls (ex. NIN, QOTSA). This takes out the middle men like Amazon, and sometimes they have albums in stock that aren't available elsewhere.

  • @mapl3mage
    @mapl3mage 4 місяці тому +6

    one downside of buying music digitally from apple itunes store is that they sometimes remove non-music tracks. for example, audio commentary and audio drama.

  • @dmilk
    @dmilk 4 місяці тому +27

    Pro tip, your local library likely has those huge all timer albums which you can easily borrow and rip to your pc and then to your iPod!

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому +5

      That’s a great tip!

    • @MikeSparksMusic
      @MikeSparksMusic 4 місяці тому +1

      Dude! You beat me to it! I do this as well! I live in the Pittsburgh area and there are quite a few libraries I am able to check CDs out at in the county.

    • @asciicatface
      @asciicatface 4 місяці тому +1

      pretty sure that's illegal though

    • @overlordh1254
      @overlordh1254 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@asciicatfaceshhhhhhhhhh

    • @Ad-Ac
      @Ad-Ac 4 місяці тому +1

      I envy you. Libraries in my country don't have cds. They have DVDs though.

  • @anotherxyz
    @anotherxyz 4 місяці тому +14

    I love bandcamp but worth noting that sometimes things can get pulled by the artist or bandcamp itself. I bought a discography from an artist and had several albums that just disappeared overnight. If you have songs and albums you love, BACK THEM UP.

    • @TheMikirog
      @TheMikirog 4 місяці тому +5

      Doubly so if the artist is using samples from other music liberally!
      My ritual has been to download everything instantly after a purchase and I'm glad I made that my habit.
      It's also just cooler to have a file and listen to it with whatever player I want.

  • @MyurrDurr
    @MyurrDurr 4 місяці тому +10

    I like Bandcamp too, most of the time you can buy any track individually from an album and it's fantastic cause I rarely ever listen to an entire album

  • @Nummer6
    @Nummer6 4 місяці тому +54

    Nice video, but the 256 kbps AAC files that iTunes is selling are not lossless. That would be ALAC, which Apple is indeed streaming with an Apple Music subscription. But they didn't care about the store enough to upgrade those files as well. Too bad...

    • @yannisgk
      @yannisgk 4 місяці тому +8

      they are "lossy" but you can't really find a difference between them and a cd concerning sound quality....they are same as the 384(?)kbps mp3s.

    • @ryanz6370
      @ryanz6370 4 місяці тому +7

      A lot of the “Apple Digital Master” albums on iTunes sound really good and in some cases more dynamic than the cd due to the mastering guidelines that are supposed to be followed to get the ADM mark

    • @x7universe76
      @x7universe76 4 місяці тому +3

      @@yannisgk some people can and some people can't. If you're using Bluetooth then you physically can't, because most codecs max out around 320 anyway, but if you are using wired headphones there is going to be a difference (although very subtle, but I can personally tell)

    • @yannisgk
      @yannisgk 4 місяці тому

      between cd and max bitrate aac??? no way, believe me!!!@@x7universe76

    • @Ad-Ac
      @Ad-Ac 3 місяці тому +1

      For me even mp3 quality is fine..I don't care honestly. I listen to all music, in mp3, AAC and m4a and to be frank, it doesn't make that much of a difference

  • @dynamiketiger
    @dynamiketiger 4 місяці тому +17

    Thanks to the user that mentioned HDtracks! So cool! ❤

  • @matthewkeller4218
    @matthewkeller4218 4 місяці тому +19

    I got logged back into an old iTunes account of mine and was pleasantly surprised to about 3.5k songs I purchased through the early 00's before Apple Music. Mos Def's The Ecstatic, which isn't on most streaming services. So cool these didn't go away!

    • @bassa8333
      @bassa8333 3 місяці тому

      That album was my reason for unsubscribing from Spotify, was able to find a Google drive link on reddit for it. Such a great album!

  • @quas3728
    @quas3728 4 місяці тому +1

    good video! I don't like idea of relying 100 percent on streaming. also I can manage my digital collection very easily with custom tags like genre. also bandcamp's article is interesting. I enjoyed their best beat tapes of the month series.

  • @HexaDeciGaming
    @HexaDeciGaming 3 місяці тому +3

    You should've definitely included Beatport in the list. It also offeres music DRM-free, with you owning your purchased files. Beatport offers EDM originals and remixes, as it's mostly DJ-oriented store, but still pretty decent

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  3 місяці тому +1

      I’ve never heard of them, but I’ll be sure to check it out! Maybe a future video is in need with some recos from the comment section because there is a few good ones I wasn’t aware of

    • @HexaDeciGaming
      @HexaDeciGaming 3 місяці тому

      @@spencers-adventures I myself bought a couple songs there, one of which being "Away From Here" by Kehele Keff

  • @liguy181
    @liguy181 4 місяці тому +4

    I went back and forth on doing a cd collection or a vinyl collection. I went with CD so I can rip the songs to a flac file and put them on an mp3 player. I still use spotify, mainly cause I get it for free through my job, but it's nice having a physical collection of music I love

  • @CroakPad
    @CroakPad 4 місяці тому +14

    I use iTunes and Bandcamp to buy my music, as well as rip CDs to my computer.

  • @fudgecameron_
    @fudgecameron_ 4 місяці тому +1

    mate, how do you not have more subscribers! you are a great talker and seem to be a descent videographer. Maybe just sprinkle a nice jazz track in the back, but otherwise i quite enjoy this style of content! Keep at it, mate!

  • @microfighterz
    @microfighterz 4 місяці тому +2

    It helps that a lot of vinyl and cassette releases today also come with a link to let you download and own digital versions of the album you got in any format you want.

  • @SpencersStuff1777
    @SpencersStuff1777 4 місяці тому +1

    I use Bandcamp and pro studio masters! Great video. My name is Spencer as well 😁 I still buy CD's and rip to flac primarily since CDs are so cheap

  • @justanotherpxrson
    @justanotherpxrson 4 місяці тому +10

    Thanks for talking about iTunes. I used to be big into the apple ecosystem back when I was a kid, so I have music purchased on there but didn't know I actually owned it.

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому +7

      I think there’s a caveat there you want to look into. Back in the early days when you purchased music on there I’m not sure it was DRM free, but since Apple Music streaming etc they made the music in the iTunes Store DRM free. From google I found this
      “ The iTunes Store no longer uses DRM copy protection for songs and albums you purchase. However, you may still have DRM-protected songs in your digital music library if you bought them in 2009 or earlier.”
      Hope that helps, thanks for commenting!

    • @justanotherpxrson
      @justanotherpxrson 4 місяці тому +3

      @@spencers-adventures I think I bought most of that stuff in 2011 at the earliest? Maybe even a little later than that. But thanks for the info!

  • @bailey1368
    @bailey1368 4 місяці тому +3

    Wanted to ask if you have done or will do a video about digitizing your movies. I know you said you are big into VHS, but I also remember you talking about having a dvd collection you digitized a good chunk of.

  • @zachb4047
    @zachb4047 4 місяці тому +4

    wanting access to all my music files everywhere I go eventually lead me down the Plex rabbit hole...and it’s well worth it!

  • @C.SchitzPopinov
    @C.SchitzPopinov 4 місяці тому +7

    I've never had to "ditch" Rotify because I've never aquired a relationship with it in the first place.

    • @TheKingWhoWins
      @TheKingWhoWins 4 місяці тому +3

      That deserves a respectful handshake and an atta boy 🙏

    • @veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
      @veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 4 місяці тому

      beautiful! they have become such a brain rot/culture rot lately since shadow-banning me and forcing ads disguised as real music on my premium account and constantly updating the app so much i never know how to use it anymore. what a scam.

    • @kevinwong_2016
      @kevinwong_2016 2 місяці тому

      Fr💀

  • @DonnieHarkcom
    @DonnieHarkcom 4 місяці тому

    Stumbled upon your channel, love your stuff. Especially the iPod content. Are you on X, Threads, or Mastodon?

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому

      Not yet, just Instagram but it hasn’t contained channel related stuff as of yet, just more so life BTS. I may look into a text-based network like you mentioned in the future though. Glad you’re enjoyed the channel!

  • @PayneKilla94
    @PayneKilla94 4 місяці тому +2

    This is beyond helpful I appreciate the awareness. Quick question tho is thier a way to put the music I purchase on a flash drive of sorts despite tons of music storage?

  • @chisaten
    @chisaten 3 місяці тому

    Bandcamp is the best to me. Something that I like is some of the indie artists do special sales. One of my favourites does a "name your own price" sale every few years, which is very trusting. Another one has an album that you buy once for like $100, but it includes all of his current and future albums. So far, I have more than 400 tracks of that artist.

  • @dynamiketiger
    @dynamiketiger 4 місяці тому +7

    Awesome! I will gladly buy music from an artist I like the old days but now digital, and especially since I know most the money will go directly to the artist! :)

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому +3

      I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Yeah bandcamp is especially good for supporting the artist, it’s a great platform!

  • @anarchodandyist
    @anarchodandyist 4 місяці тому

    Read the ULA about outright ownership. Some companies have been saying you have been purchasing a license for video games and video content. I know the format is different, but companies do the same tactics. Always have more than one copy of a download as access to the digital providers can change or be revoked.

    • @putai1234
      @putai1234 4 місяці тому

      As long as the download isn’t drm protected you can download them and stash them/copy them/listen them to your hearts desire

  • @critic2029
    @critic2029 4 місяці тому

    Sound Taxi. I used this back in the day to download my Zune collection… it uses the “analog loophole.” It’s been long establish that you’re allow to dupe music from the radio any source really. What is illegal is doing a straight digital to digital copy. So what sound taxi did was utilize the analog audio channel. Record the song as it played. Then it creates a new MP3 from that file. The only problem was that every song ended to play end to end.

  • @mangokraken
    @mangokraken 4 місяці тому +1

    I still use my Ipod Gen 5 with the Wolfson audio chip (iykyk)
    And i have some pricey, wired, in-ear buds which amplify the experience.
    Sure I use my Spotify with wireless buds when it's more convenient to do so but I always buy the music from musicians I love just to support the artist and put it in the Ipod
    My Ipod is filled with music I have bought, no illegal downloads.
    It's my private collection of music that means something to me.
    Corny I know.

  • @ryanrodriguez1234
    @ryanrodriguez1234 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you, I've been looking for something like this! Do you have any video recommendations for suggestions on media/music player apps for Apple, Android, and computers? I'm looking for something with exceptional organization capabilities and the ability to edit file metadata, etc.

    • @kevinwong_2016
      @kevinwong_2016 3 місяці тому

      Music speed changer for mobile and i don't know for desktop💀

  • @DeafEars5723
    @DeafEars5723 4 місяці тому

    I use good old ITunes. I use Apple Music for almost anything I listen to (Mostly brostep and it’s many microgenres) so it’s great to find a great track, and then come home and being able to buy the exact file I just got done listening to.

  • @hifirulezzz
    @hifirulezzz 4 місяці тому +1

    The problem is a greed. They ditched media, physical stores, manufacturing, packaging, shipping and increasing prices after all. If files would cost $0.5 everyone would be buying, at least older generations. Youth is adopted to have everything and right now.

  • @Anon-qs2jd
    @Anon-qs2jd 4 місяці тому +1

    I just use Audials and record my FLAC tracks via Tidal. Def a grey area in the copyright realm but it works well for me. It will even auto-tag things for you and upload the metadata.

  • @user-en5gu7nf4v
    @user-en5gu7nf4v 4 місяці тому +2

    I've been using my mum's old iPod for ages and idk why more people don't use it. i have over 5000 songs on it (some a lot of which are hers) and I've used barely a fraction of the space. I still support the artists by buying their merch and rewatching the (absolute masterpieces of the) music videos but i really miss people owning their media. Mp3 players are dirt cheap now so more people should adopt this. (I also sometimes listen to k-pop so i obviously own the physical albums so i can have pieces of cardboard with their faces on it :>) and the iTunes app is still great because i still use it to download to the iPod. Every song I listen to is on there.

    • @Madzguy007
      @Madzguy007 4 місяці тому +1

      I still own an ipod that still works but has a cracked screen... Over the years, i have changed multiple PCs... I hate how apple forces you to use their app to be able to transfer music from your PC to Ipod or vice versa... Last time i tried connecting my ipod to a PC, it was trying to delete everything on my Ipod that i have collected over the years because it assumed i didn't own them.. I fkng hate apple because of this!

    • @kenkaminskyj3170
      @kenkaminskyj3170 3 місяці тому

      @@Madzguy007 nstall "ROCKBOX" on your ipod and you dont need itunes to load files on it.ITS FREE ,running it on my 6th Gen Classic today 10/03/2024

  • @samdmc04
    @samdmc04 4 місяці тому

    I'm glad you included iTunes in here. It really doesn't have everything as you say, but it's really not bad at all! I still buy iTunes tracks here today, to DJ with at home and with friends.

    • @samdmc04
      @samdmc04 4 місяці тому

      And I use it on both macOS Sonoma and Windows - as well as buying on my iPhone, it's great. I use Bandcamp as my secondary service, and stream my general listening on Spotify, generally, unless I have it on my fairly extensive music server.

  • @ravenbom
    @ravenbom 4 місяці тому

    I like hiking and streaming is unreliable in remote areas, and I used to be a musician and frankly, I like to listen to albums as a collection of feelings and ideas, rather than just singles, so I still buy music as I discover it.
    Also, a lot of times the singles aren't my favorites, so I like the dive into and artist's library.
    I do find a lot of stuff from youtube, but that's in part because I look at the bands coming to town and give them a shot on youtube first if I don't know them.

  • @yevsey169
    @yevsey169 4 місяці тому +2

    I didn't expect to watch this video and found out this guy is also a Canadian into indie country and old folk / blues. We're out there!

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому +1

      Heck ya buddy! I think the indie country artists are some of the best kept secrets in the music industry right now. Sierra Ferrell, Billy Strings, Dean Johnson, they’re all greats. Gems On VHS and Western AF are doing the lords work with their channels. Thanks for the comment!

  • @matthewshields2841
    @matthewshields2841 4 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for putting out there positive vibes with digital music. I’m a bit less sanguine. For me, it’s more like paying upfront for a lifetime of streaming. Would that mean I stream a track ~ 100 times? Very unlikely with my use case, as I’m refreshing my tastes constantly. I love the Bandcamp shout, but I’d stick with physical.

  • @drifter402
    @drifter402 4 місяці тому

    HD tracks also has some much better alternative remasters on it such as for Thriller or American Idiot. Other services only have the brickwalled versions.

  • @burymeintulips
    @burymeintulips 4 місяці тому +1

    there's too much music i listen too that just simply wouldn't be on these services. maybe one day

  • @chickenpie9698
    @chickenpie9698 4 місяці тому

    In all honesty, if I was after building a music library to unshackle myself from streaming services with the aim of saving money in the long run, I think the best way to go about it would be just to rip a load of CDs and Blu-rays. When downloading my entire music library from Tidal on my phone, it's sitting around 250-300GB so not too much to fit on a second hard drive really and I have plenty of spare space among my online storage to back all of this up. Sure, I can pay to digitally 'own' an album but quite frankly, I''m still reliant on that service itself existing in the future so I'm much happier looking out for used CDs to rip and then sell back on if I want to.
    Currently trying to go through my digital library from Tidal and build my own collection over time so I can eventually cut ties and just have streaming services for music discovery. I'm only just starting to make my way through systematically and am making my way through artists alphabetically but it feels pretty worthwhile for now even if I'm yet to add anything from an artist with a name beginning with B yet...

  • @VileStorms
    @VileStorms 4 місяці тому +2

    Or you can set sail for the high seas ;)

  • @bigrobotnewstoday1436
    @bigrobotnewstoday1436 4 місяці тому +1

    Apple does tag their audio files so if a song gets on like a torrent site they can track down who leaked it.

  • @mnewm21
    @mnewm21 3 місяці тому

    The problem will be when it is no longer affordable for a band to release music on physical media or they have to take back ownership of their music catalog as Ms Swift has (by re-recording albums) so that she can do what she wants with it. Fine if you are arguably the most successful artist of modern times but not so if you are a normal artist. What can you do if your label stops producing physical media?
    An example of physical media disappearing is in Australia where Disney has decided not to release any of its properties anymore on physical media and the only access you have to it (legally) is through Disney+ or buying at great expense from overseas!
    Subscription services drive me nuts and I refuse to buy into them. The two I have are Prime (for shipping purposes) and Spotify which I use for finding music I like and listening to music I cannot afford to purchase on disc myself as it is either out of release or not on physical media.

  • @SuperBoomshack
    @SuperBoomshack 3 місяці тому +1

    I have 2 old school iPods with all my CDs collected and each has over 52000 songs on them; i have no need for Spotify

  • @Solitaire001
    @Solitaire001 3 місяці тому

    I've always been concerned about the loss of physical media just for this very reason. Although streaming is okay as a way to sample music, if I want to keep a song/album I purchase it. That is only way that I can be sure to have access to the music that I buy.

  • @TheJuanCorp
    @TheJuanCorp 4 місяці тому

    truly amazing what you've done with No Mans Sky!

  • @the_rustydoornob1164
    @the_rustydoornob1164 4 місяці тому

    For iTunes I have an eclectic taste but nothing like obscure artists aside from the smaller musicians ik from my friends but I’ve found nearly everything I could’ve ever wanted on iTunes, just gotta look up some things a certain way to get them to show up

  • @HypeXesk
    @HypeXesk 3 місяці тому +2

    iPods require itunes to work which originally was only on mac computers, perhaps a depreceated android would be a better fit as it has way more capabilities for similar prices

    • @kenkaminskyj3170
      @kenkaminskyj3170 3 місяці тому +2

      install "ROCKBOX" dont need itunes to install files(albums etc) also lets you play FLAC Hi Res, running rockbox on my 6th Gen classic today 10/3/2024 no probs better than apple itunes . its free

    • @kevinwong_2016
      @kevinwong_2016 2 місяці тому

      Fr💀

  • @madmuffinz
    @madmuffinz 4 місяці тому +1

    I love how I know more than you when it comes to 'having' music

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay 4 місяці тому

    I started buying cds and ripping them to flac to play on my hi res hiby players. I can’t bring myself to pay more for files than a cd. I only buy the files if no cd exists. Previously I was using Amazon HD.

  • @RAM_845
    @RAM_845 4 місяці тому +2

    You can "Download" your music. "Buying" is basically renting the track...we do not OWN digital media if the services and take it from you.

  • @Ad-Ac
    @Ad-Ac 4 місяці тому

    Hell yeah. Just recently thought about riping and burning cds, as an addition to normal thumb drive storage. This video comes in good timing. Much better to stay off Spotify and other sites like that, they try to control our wallets and that's not worth it

  • @UnitedWeStandFreedom
    @UnitedWeStandFreedom 3 місяці тому +3

    I'll stick to my cds and records these music sites can always go down or your device hard drive can also currupt then you'd be screwed . Cd's you can always reburn them on to a new device.

    • @dang75790
      @dang75790 3 місяці тому

      Agreed. Plus CDs sound better

    • @kevinwong_2016
      @kevinwong_2016 2 місяці тому

      Bit rot:🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

  • @Wahinies
    @Wahinies 4 місяці тому

    The only think missing is being able to stream from smart speakers. I started to mess with an AirSonic server but it would be quite a pain to setup and maintain and I mess with linux and containers all the time. Nevermind the layperson that just wants it to work..

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому

      That’s fair! I have a Bluetooth receiver I added to my stereo and I can play my music from my computer to the stereo quite easily. Just something simple I picked up on Amazon. But for smart speakers I’m not sure how that would work. Thanks for the comment!

  • @Tocy777isback0414
    @Tocy777isback0414 4 місяці тому +2

    In my country (Hungary) only Bandcamp is available due to geo restrictions, I wish they would bring in the other lossless music stores.

    • @Ad-Ac
      @Ad-Ac 4 місяці тому +2

      that's where piracy should help you. I feel you though, lots of good online stuff is blocked in my country too. I'm in Europe as well.

    • @Tocy777isback0414
      @Tocy777isback0414 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Ad-AcYes, I do resort them from time-to-time, but would be nice to support musicians and bands that I like, especially the smaller ones.

  • @doktorprok
    @doktorprok 4 місяці тому

    Totally agree with 3 of those sites and I use them all the time if I can't find a given CD for reasonable amt. But Apple can go to hell. I won't be locked into their crap. Standard wav or flac only. Then run your own music server - Subsonic, Emby or Plex, etc. But, I still use Spotify or Pandora, even YT as there is still new music to be found, and sometimes I just want to play random stuff that I don't necessarily want to own :)

  • @benjaminjwilson6694
    @benjaminjwilson6694 3 місяці тому

    Tim Freehan is the artist and the song is Where's the Fire.
    do any of these have that masterpiece?

  • @butterbagboy
    @butterbagboy 4 місяці тому +2

    Look and see if your library has Freegal, free downloads every week, huge catalog, but not high res at all, but good enough sound for an iPod

  • @deanarmstrong4703
    @deanarmstrong4703 3 місяці тому

    Another way of building the collection on a tight budget is visiting Op Shops (Thrift Stores) and picking them up for .50 or $1. Rip them then donate them back to the store.

  • @eagle2D2
    @eagle2D2 3 місяці тому +2

    UA-cam has just about any song you could want. Get software that converts video to MP3, there ya go!

  • @tvheadd
    @tvheadd 4 місяці тому +2

    Or... Stick with me here...
    Yar-har-fiddlee-dee❤

  • @NomadOverNormal
    @NomadOverNormal 4 місяці тому

    Dope page, Spencer.

  • @MonkeyPunchZPoker
    @MonkeyPunchZPoker 4 місяці тому +2

    I've been getting into City Pop and would love to know of some kind of service I could buy tracks from. For music that wasn't even all that popular in Japan 40 years ago I doubt I'll ever find a place. I guess I'm stuck with UA-cam rops.

    • @overlordh1254
      @overlordh1254 4 місяці тому +2

      They also keep removing uploads of city pop songs due to copyright, but there is literally no other way to listen to it unless you want to buy a used vinyl record from 30 years ago.

    • @TheBlueGoldenHawk
      @TheBlueGoldenHawk 4 місяці тому +1

      @@overlordh1254 you can thank weird old businessmen and even some of the old artists themselves for that. They have seniority and in Japanese culture, there's no chance the younger employees more open to streaming/digital sales can convince them to change until they retire or pass away. CDs are still regularly sold in places like Tower Records in Japan, which is actually kinda cool, but also until recently, came at the detriment of overseas/digital availability

  • @joeys-wooden-spoon
    @joeys-wooden-spoon 4 місяці тому +1

    This is an idea I am working towards after cancelling my subscriptions after years of use.

  • @BaddBadger
    @BaddBadger 4 місяці тому +1

    If people see my iPods they always ask why i still have them. I then have to explain that i only just bought them in 2202, when they were a bargain! I've lived long enough to find out that newer isn't always better. I do miss records, but realistically i'm not going to begin collecting them all over again (for one thing, records in the UK now cost literally ten times what they did back in the day). But having been an amatuer music maker all my life i just can't help but view Spotify etc as pure evil. I could make a billion dollar company if i was allowed to sell other peoples work! So it's Bandcamp all the way for me. Not just as a customer either, as plenty of people i know sell their own creations on there. So it's not just about supporting the creators, it really is about finding music that the big companies just won't ever have. Plus there are often amazing deals on there.

  • @humanbean7884
    @humanbean7884 4 місяці тому

    A tip I've heard from lossless music collectors: use lossless purely as a storage medium, and copy them as high quality mp3's for downloading to your phone/mp3-player. It'll save space and won't give noticeable loss in audio.

  • @allurevibe
    @allurevibe 4 місяці тому +1

    I’d stay away from iTunes I’ve purchase music from them years ago. I recently remembered and tried to go back and download the albums just to find out they’re not in my account anymore.

    • @Ad-Ac
      @Ad-Ac 4 місяці тому

      why didn't you copy them into an external drive?

    • @allurevibe
      @allurevibe 4 місяці тому

      @@Ad-Ac I was 21 just trying to load up a bunch of music onto a 160gb ipod classic getting it ready for deployment. I didn't know when I'd be able to get more music or when I have time to actually use my laptop again lol

  • @NeverlandSystemZor
    @NeverlandSystemZor 3 місяці тому

    I DO like Spotify and DO use it... but I STILL get files and physical media when I can, too. The things I REALLY care about, I buy a copy and if it's a digital copy, I BACK THE FILES UP at least two times.

  • @OceanSoul1969
    @OceanSoul1969 3 місяці тому

    This would cost a fortune. I used to buy my music from Amazon and use iTunes to put them on my iPhone, but things were always getting screwed up. A random track wouldn’t play or they wouldn’t be where it was supposed to be. So I just went to streaming.

  • @DavidMorley
    @DavidMorley 4 місяці тому +2

    Bandcamp. It's the only thing that still pays the artist directly. It makes a real difference...

  • @spudhead169
    @spudhead169 4 місяці тому +4

    You can "own" pretty much anything you like. Right here on UA-cam you can see and hear almost any music track you like. A couple of clicks, a couple of right clicks and VNC and you have an M4A of that track on your hard drive. Is that legal? Probably not, but DRM is a joke to anyone with a little knowledge, get educated.

  • @MegaJojje123
    @MegaJojje123 4 місяці тому +1

    i like to buy the non compressed files of songs, in other words the "wav" file.

  • @sharkhanjeel
    @sharkhanjeel 4 місяці тому

    You have my respect
    You gained a new follower

  • @flottenheimer
    @flottenheimer 4 місяці тому

    Hi Spencer, what software do you use for the playback and organisation of your digital music library?

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому +1

      Right now I’m just using Apple’s Music app on Mac and IOS and I’ve been having a good time with that. I may look into another solution in the future but I’m liking this one for now!

    • @bassa8333
      @bassa8333 3 місяці тому

      I use Musicbee on Windows, and PowerAmp on Android, both work great. VLC for Android is also great.

  • @mylogify
    @mylogify 4 місяці тому

    Same... I love to own the files. I don't like very overpriced Spotify, that doesn't give me FLAC resolution.

  • @LoneWolf16583
    @LoneWolf16583 3 місяці тому

    Hello 👋…. I could use some help… I’m trying to get back into listening to music but Cd’s I want are outrageous prices… so I saw this video and thought I would ask… I’m into 70’s, 80’s and 90’s Hard Rock/ Heavy Metal 🤘 and I’m having a very hard time finding cds like Badlands and Vinnie Vincent’s Invasion Digitally !!

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  3 місяці тому

      Yeah Vinnie Vincent will be tough to find for sure. Rare discs are thrift stores I think paired with luck. But those will be tough to find. We’re talking Vinnie Vincent who hopped in Aces spot in Kiss for a couple albums right?

  • @LoungeAndChillMusic
    @LoungeAndChillMusic 4 місяці тому

    Bandcamp rules, as an artist myself Bandcamp is the best. Building your own catalogue is always the best because if for instance Spotify goes bankrupt you don't have anything and have to start all over again to build your collection.

  • @LemmySilverlance
    @LemmySilverlance 3 місяці тому +2

    *laughs in Torrents*

  • @kurukururin
    @kurukururin 4 місяці тому +1

    the only problem is you need to be a millionare to buy all the albums you want like that. i built my collection of physical media by buying used at flea markets and second hand shops. a cd is like 1-2 dollars and then you own it and can rip it to digital if you want. even huge amounts of cd's can be stored without jewel cases and take up minimal space. the only problem is you cant give the cd's away after you ripped the files to digital, cause you need to own the cd to play the digital file. i wonder if its legal to lend a cd to a friend as long as they dont make copies of it? anyways, 1-2 dollars vs 15-30 dollars? totally worth it. maybe you can dig a hole somewhere and store your cd's there if you dont want them in the house ;D

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому

      I agree the cost vs CDs used is hard to stomach! However I will say that’s the average for higher end music on that one site, but albums can be purchased for much less, I haven’t spent the $15-30 so far myself just by searching around through the different services for the music. Also you can buy individual tracks on some of these services for much lower prices so if you only want one or two tracks that helps too. Thanks for the comment!

  • @Bren71319
    @Bren71319 4 місяці тому +2

    Actually, ITunes Store has all the Allan Holdsworth albums. Not exactly “pop”…

  • @WildWildWeasel
    @WildWildWeasel 4 місяці тому

    I've been amassing my offline dogital collection since at least 2008, and I've got about 22.5k files

  • @Madzguy007
    @Madzguy007 4 місяці тому +1

    Am i the only who is still old school... downloading pirated music and putting them on a burner phone that i use for listening to music only?

  • @mephitusincognito7918
    @mephitusincognito7918 4 місяці тому

    well.. ive never used spotify and these sites are neat, but, they are charging physical media prices for a... digital file... yay... i collect CDs and rip them to the hard-drive and my phone so i can listen digitally but have a backup.... great part about physical media is it survives a hard-drive crash and a website/service disappearing... CDs/records/tapes are not clutter... they are the original copy of what you own in your music collection...

  • @user-uo8ny1kj4c
    @user-uo8ny1kj4c 4 місяці тому +1

    holy shit based. owning your music is so much easier these days with discography collections

  • @pinkflamingo8806
    @pinkflamingo8806 4 місяці тому

    There’s also good old fashioned eBay. But a used cd and rip it yourself

  • @PTSOPHOTO
    @PTSOPHOTO 4 місяці тому +1

    longtime 6+ year Spotify user here. I want to convert to buying high quality files but isn't this process going to be a lot more expensive if I would be planning to replace close to 1000 songs from Spotify? Also another thing is Spotify makes it easy to find out when an artist releases a new album. how would you go about keeping up to date without a service like this?

    • @TheMikirog
      @TheMikirog 4 місяці тому +1

      Can't speak about other services, but if you follow Bandcamp artists you get emailed when they release new stuff. Prices on albums are generally cheap (digital downloads) and you get a discount if you get their entire discography. Prices do vary from free / $1 an album to proper release prices.

    • @spencers-adventures
      @spencers-adventures  4 місяці тому +3

      I’ve heard some people say they use Spotify free to get music recommendations still. I have always done well just watching music videos of bands on UA-cam and using the recommended videos. Also subreddits for the genre you like I’m sure would be another great option!
      To your other point, I’d say it’s definitely going to cost more at the outset to acquire a lot of owned music from scratch compared to renting from Spotify, but that’s because you are only renting it. I also had Spotify for around 7 or 8 years, and in that time I paid nearly $1000 to them for their services, but now that I quit, I have nothing to show. If I paid that same $1000 for around 1000 songs, that’s something at least. It’s not about winning at the outset for sure, but it’s about the long game. I won’t buy the 1000 songs I listened to before right away, but maybe the 30-40 I’ve been listening to. It’s all about taking your time and being intentional for me. Thanks for commenting buddy!

    • @AlbedoAtoned
      @AlbedoAtoned 4 місяці тому

      Not in the long run. The quicker you switch from Spotify, the more you save. Spotify's paid plan is 11 dollars a month. In a year you would have paid 132 dollars + taxes on it. In 6 years that balloons to 792 dollars. In ten years that is 1320 and because of the nature of subscription services, you can't guarantee access to those songs. Songs could get taken off the service and not available to listen to.
      Basically, Spotify seems cheaper in the short run because you pay a little to access a large library, but over time you will end up paying more than if you bought the songs. The latter is much more flexible given you don't need an internet connection and can play the songs on pretty much any device.
      If it's about avoiding the upfront costs, you could just "acquire"" the music some other way and then every month or two pay for it bit by bit. As bad as that may sound, artists basically make nothing from Spotify, so even if you were to buy just one song from them, you would do more good for them than paying for spotify over the course of several months. Alternatively, build up a collection legally, then ditch it when you feel comfortable. If possible, switch to the free tier during the transition.

  • @mario6279
    @mario6279 2 місяці тому

    I understand access to servers makes it easier for people but you must understand you’re not owning anything other than a membership to access it. I miss the days of CDs and DVDs/blu rays not because of nostalgia but because it’s physical and yours to enjoy forever and you download/change the format for your devices (atleast the CDs). Thts how I used to put music on my IPods 📱 back in 2010

  • @lucin_4
    @lucin_4 4 місяці тому +5

    most ppl use streaming services for the convinience so if ur gonna do this why dont you just pirate music atp.

  • @midtown3221
    @midtown3221 4 місяці тому +2

    I have my own solution...
    *rubs the black flag in my pocket*
    ...and all my music is free.

  • @John-ni5pr
    @John-ni5pr 4 місяці тому +1

    This is a great way to own your music, my problem is how to find new music?

  • @kceateva
    @kceateva 4 місяці тому

    Should get a Zune HD