The FiiO BTR7 The King Kong OF BLUETOOTH DAC/AMP’s This Is Insane!!!🦍
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I had the BTR 5. I was extremely impressed. I regretted selling it however I purchased the BTL7 and I can confirm I was blown away in every respect. So pleased I didn't get any of the alternatives. Nothing compares to it - nothing is on parr.
Best review I've ever seen!
Thank you, and keep it up!
Thank You sir! I know my videos are longer than what the norm is but I try to include as much as possible.
Great Review in features and many test of connection in this device. I will get BTR7 on tomorrow.
It’s an excellent device and a step up in sound quality and power from the FiiO BTR5
Thanks for your take. Interesting you have the M17 and also the BTR 7, I'll be upgrading from the BTR5.
Thanks, I had the older BTR5 and this is levels above that in every department! Enjoy I’ll be doing a few more videos on this (using it for calls and receiving calls etc..) as this video was already pretty long
Thanks great review esp for car drivers who want fuss free better sound. Keep doing more reviews for car sound quality upgrades!
Thanks, yes I’m trying to do the car audio perspective rather than the usual headphones review as there are so many of those already doing that.
I absolutely love mine! Definitely worth the money
That’s awesome! Great price for a great product!!
Love this video
Thanks for taking the time to share……✌🏼
Thanks, I have been extremely busy of late so I haven’t had a chance to do many videos
Hi Dave, always a pleasure to see you. IMHO you should work as a reviewer full time you are so good Sir. The FiiO BTR7 sounds like a mighty machine in a BT world and as you mentioned Fiio always comes out with a high quality product and this review will help many who are interested in a high quality BT unit. thank you my friend for a very informative review which truly I enjoyed watching. 🙏🙏💞
Thank you sir! I’ll probably do a separate video on how it works making and receiving calls
Spot on ! yes exactly Dave😎
I agree Dave’s great
@@CarAudioHorizons good day. Does the btr7 work with samsung S21 ultra?
@@pietpompiepompiepiet940 It should work with any phone
This is head and shoulders above the btr5, the headroom alone. Sweet.
Yes, it’s definitely a step up for sure.
@CarAudioHorizons I Just Want To Plug My 3.5 Aux Cable.In And Listen To My SHP9500 AND X2HR .
I'm looking for a Bluetooth Reciever ThatmWill Push MynHeadphones Better Than My FIIO BTR3K .
@@DroidLocks6971 this will fit that bill
Hi Dave, your video is really interesting. Thanks for creating & posting such as complete review especially on how you use it along with your car audio. I have been using btr7 with an IEM and it would be nice to be able to use it as btr in a car audio set up. Please allow me to ask several questions
When you phone is connected to btr7 as the audio source, can you still use google map on your head unit just like when you are connected directly to the head unit from the phone. Appreciate your insight, Dave. Thanks in advance.
Love the content especially bringging these modern gadget to the car. Bonus point for Natalie Merchant.
Thanks, I love testing a lot of the new products coming out and things seem to just keep getting better!
Thank you for creating this video, I have the Grand Cherokee that has stock Harman Kardon system, what’s a good wired set up with the BTR7? Would the iPhone + BTR7 shown in your video that has the white apple adapter be beneficial to the sound system in the Jeep?
Hi Dave, very thorough review. This may be the solution for me. I do have a couple of questions:
1. Since you pass the signal from fiiO to your dsp, can we still get the audio from the factory head unit?
2. If i use the fiiO in the bluetooth mode, can i still plug the usb-c port to the car usb port for charging simultaneously?
Appreciate your advice, Dave.
I Too Love That KISS IN BLUE Song From TIDAL
It’s a clean recording. They have a few decent songs that are good recordings
@CarAudioHorizons On Sept. 11 2020 I purchased my BTR3K it and it's clip case are still going strong .
I Skipped Getting The BTR5 .
On March 9 2023 I finally took the plunge and got the BTR7 And WOW It's A Bluetooth LDAC Codec Beast But In Wired DAC Mode Is Where The BTR7 Really Shines .
I Am Hard Pressed To Tell The Difference Over My Hidizs S9 Pro DAC AMP DONGLE And BTR7 When In Wired DAC Mode Of BTR7.
@@DroidLocks6971 I guess it all depends on what you’re using it with. I focus on the Car Audio side of things and everything I have tested sounds different.
If anyone on here has an older bmw with the glovebox flashlight, you can buy an adapter to a normal 12V charge socket to plug the btr7 into. It's the perfect spot for it
Thanks for the information I’m sure whoever owns an older BMW will appreciate it.
This vs the ifi go blu? Which one would you recommend? I actually had the go blu just got sent through the washer today sadly so I'm looking to buy another one or maybe upgrading.
I think the Fiio BTR7 is the best in it’s category at this time.
I connect my BTR15 to aux in of mu DSP. I was so shocked, the sound quality is much more better than my Sony Head Unit. Omg! It’s a bit hassle actually, since when I use the DAC as the inout of the DSP, the head unit is not functioning except for camera purposes. I guess the best way is connecting the DAC to the aux of the HU (not the DSP), unfortunately my HU does not have 3.5mm aux. It only has a USB which doesnt work when I connect the DAC to it. Do you have a better idea?
This should be interesting.
It’s a great little product! It surprised me in a good way.
Hello Dave, one question. How are you getting 32 bit though Apple Music? When one clicks on the lossless logo it tells you the bit rate that the song is playing and I have yet to find any 32 bit song, max 24 bit … iPad plays bit rate natively so is there maybe some up sampling happening from the settings on the btr7? Thanks!
This is from FiiO-> When connecting the BTR7 via USB and playing 24bit tracks through FiiO Music app, why would the BTR7 show 32bit? The bit depth displayed on the BTR7 is the bit depth of the song transmission, which is different from that of the track. This is the best compatibility we chose when customizing the XMOS USB AUDIO driver.
Mate... Using any Android phones with Mediatek Dimensity and some Snapdragon processor inside, we could easily got LDAC too... Based on my experience Mediatek Dimensity really astounding on separation and the vocal very well extended like Diana Krall sing on the centre of my car's dashboard :) I just hooked up my phone directly to Zapco DSP Amplifier... As always your review is very detail and easy to understand... Good Job!!!
I have never heard of Mediatek Dimensity, then again I have had iPhones since they came out and was never an Android phone user.
Yes some of the Zapco DSP’s come with Bluetooth which is great for the guys that like Bluetooth. There are a lot of people out there that like a nice clean look with no cables and that’s where the FiiO BTR7 comes in for people that don’t have a DSP with built in Bluetooth. That and you can use it for so many other things.
@@CarAudioHorizons i'm using Douk K4 Bluetooth receiver which cost about 70 usd in Indonesia... In wireless scenario as long as i know Android device more superior than Apple but in wired scenario Apple got bigger resolution... So in my Bluetooth scenario im using android phone with mediatex dimensity processor inside connected wireless to Douk Audio K4 after that wired with RCA to Zapco DSD Amp :)
@@CastingCelebrity I thought the Zapco DSP had Bluetooth built in?
@@CarAudioHorizons my Zapco has optional Bluetooth module but too pricey and not hi res Bluetooth... Zapco ST 6X DSP lll
@@CastingCelebrity Ok I was thinking of the Zapco HDSP-Z16 V
hello Dave, what do you think about the BTR15?
im looking to pair it with my galaxy s20fe wich supports ldac, right now my phone is connected to a fiio ka3 but im looking to go wireless.
I wouldn’t buy anything FiiO until we see what they bring out this year as I found everything was pretty mediocre that they brought out in 2023.
Dave I didn't get why have you connected Fiio M17 to Fiio BTR7 ?? Why not play songs directly from Fiio BTR7 for car audio or IEM ?? Cheers !! Keep Vloggin :D :) :))
Thanks, not sure if you watched the full video, but I said in the video it was to demonstrate the various Bluetooth codecs LDAC, APTXHD etc…
I am looking for something to brighten up my car stock speakers. I was mainly interested in the BTR7 then the m11 plus and q7 dsd512 caught my attention. Any suggestions which one would be best for my usage? Thanks
The BTR7 is the best value out of those three choices and more than enough for stock speakers.
@@CarAudioHorizons thank you.
Shanling up 5 comparison please
The FiiO BTR7 pretty much beats it in all categories, more powerful has Bluetooth 5.1 etc… The FiiO BTR5 would be the comparison Vs UP5
If you have any data on a comparison between BTR7 and THX Onyx I would really appreciate the perspective. I am looking to get more info on these 2 compared 1 on 1.
Thanks
Out of those two products I would go with the BTR7 just looking at the specs, and the fact the THX Onyx came out in 2021. That being said not everything is better just because it’s newer as FiiO is kind of hit or miss with their products. I would say the BTR7 is a hit, where as the M11s was a miss.
@@CarAudioHorizons Appreciate your answer, thank you
My car doesn't have aux input. What the options if I want to stream music from my smartphone via btr7 to car headunit? My headunit is ORCA ADR-9988 Pro Gen 2
I’m not familiar with your Headunit
39:00 listen to the music - Doobie Brothers
Great recording!
Since upgrading firmware I’ve noticed you no longer get the bit rare info on mqa, at least I don’t when running bit perfect on uapp
Interesting, I don’t use UAPP but then I don’t use anything Android other than a DAP. When using a DAP I just use the Music Apps
Just got mine yesterday!
Send it to me.
@@MiguelSanchez-uh5yw 🤣🤣🤣
Nice! It’s an excellent device
Sounds great but too glitchy for me and incorrect KHZ reading/display and no EQ controllable while wire connected. I’ll keep my BTR15 and return this.
I never had any issues with it whatsoever but that was back when it first came out did you update to the latest software?
Sound quality wise it’s decent for what it is.
As for the EQ I personally couldn’t care less as I have a Helix DSP Ultra and would never use any of these type of products EQ’s because they’re all bad.
@CarAudioHorizons Yes I updated to the latest firmware so not sure if that affected and I don't use the EQ ether. Tidal, Qobuz or applemusic?
@@joncruz I mainly use Apple Music but have also used a lot of Tidal in the past. Qobuz I tried a while back but didn’t see any special about it.
Price wise Apple Music wins pretty easily
Hi Dave, it´s off topic to your video but maybe you can help me out. I just installed my first DSP ever in my car (DSP Pro MK3), as source i use a Fiio M11 Plus
and my Pioneer DEH-80PRS. I got a few problems with it, when i use my M11 as source with the coax cable the volume is extremly quit compared to my Pioneer
headunit, i would say about 60-70% of the Pioneer Headunit. Did you have the same problem on your DSP Ultra? I set every function i could found in the DSP Tool
to maximum but still very quiet...
Check out the input sensitivity in the helix. Set it up for whatever your main source u use
@@wyattwilliams4813 The Jumpers and switches in the Helix DSP are only for the analog signals, they doesn´t affect the digital ports. They are all set up for my Pioneer
HU (~4.5V Output on max volume). The only thing i´ve found is a function in the routing menu of the DSP Tool where i can set the digital in volume to max +10 dB but it is still very quiet even on maximum...
@@benediktmarkl4963 oh ok idk then
I have never had any issues with the volume being low. How’s your output on all your channels you can check out my settings to see if yours are close. ua-cam.com/video/AZTU8OHyhe8/v-deo.html
@@CarAudioHorizons Thx for your answer :). I know your video you´ve linked above, it was helpful for my settings. Your settings are pretty close to my settings, your volume of the Digital Channel is set even lower as mine in the IO menu (mine is set at +10dB). Well i will play around a lil bit today, maybe i can solve the problem. May i ask you how you set your analog RCA cable? I couldn´t see that in your video. I plug my 3.5 to RCA Audioquest Cable to Inputchannel E+F on the DSP but there isn´t any sound if i choose AUX as source on the director...
In few words What is this device for ?
More output volume as apple volume is really low ?
Just an EQ?
Please don’t judge me hehe😂
Hi Dave, it is possible to connect the btr7 directly via bluetooth to the car's helix dsp, since my idea would be to connect my smartphone to the brt7 via cable and from the btr7 send a signal via bluetooth. thank you
Yes, you would just need the Helix Bluetooth HD module
@@CarAudioHorizons Thanks a lot Dave, actually I do have the bluetooth module board so I'll give it a try and give you feedback. Greetings
@@alejandrorosas8330 Yes, let me know how it sounds
Can we use this DAC between TV & Powered klipsch nines.
That all depends on your TV and Powered Speakers. It’s a Bluetooth DAC/Amp so if you can hook up a Bluetooth DAC/Amp to your TV and powered speakers then yes.
Hey how is BTR7 holding up ? Am stuck between BTR7 and Qudelix 5K . I just ordered Beyerdynamic DT 700 Pro X for 250 Euro and am thinking about which one i should get.
Thank you in advence for reply.
My main unit is the FiiO M17. The BTR7 was just a review I did for car audio
same. What you ended up with and how is it going?
@@mikhailsorokin3830 went with qudelix so far so good. Didn't get my dt700 pro x still but so far it powers nicely dt 770 250 ohms
Thanks for response. You power them with balanced or unbalanced?
@@mikhailsorokin3830 using 3.5mm jack so it's unbalanced.
iPhone only does aac sbc though right
Yes, if the iPhone is by itself
Hey, I've returned ifi XDSD Gryphon because I thought it's not worth it's price also not much better than BTR5 2021 so does BTR7 sound as good as gryphon and is it much better than BTR5 2021? Or is there anything better under $600, I've excluded dethonray Pegasus sg-1 and topping G5 because G5 lacks functions and it's not truly balanced, sg-1 unifs having issues.
If I was buying a product today it would be the Hiby R6 Pro 2. Hands down the best product under $1,000. I believe it’s $749 a little over the $600 but worth it. The negatives are not much for power and battery life sucks. Everything else top notch
@@CarAudioHorizons I just looked at it and it's a DAP, can I use it as bluetooth DAC AMP like gryphon and BTR7? Does it sound as good in bluetooth reciving mode?
@@beyondtheuniverse999 Bluetooth for audio isn’t the greatest even LDAC on any device and I wouldn’t trust anyone that said otherwise. It’s not close to a wired connection and is only for convenience not sound quality. Pretty much every device has it if that’s your thing.
Once I get mine in I will still test everything but I never use Bluetooth for anything other than controlling music tracks skipping, playlists etc..
Question.. I just received my btr7 and I’m about to return it. I just was wondering am I doing something wrong, because every time I connect it, it mutes the sound and it never displays LDAC it shows SBC…if u can help me I would greatly appreciate it.. thanks
Did you update the unit with the latest software update?
Yes, I’m using a iPhone 13 pro but only way I get sound out of it , if I use the auxiliary plug or plug my headphones in. But no sound if i try to listen wireless and it’s completely mute no sound…my new car it’s a Kia Stinger and I don’t have a auxiliary plug. So I’m not sure if it working correctly.
@@Andre30006 If you’re trying to use it wired, you would need an auxiliary input in your car or some form of DSP/Amplifier.
If you’re trying to connect it to your car’s infotainment system VIA Bluetooth then you would only get the Bluetooth codec that your vehicle’s system can deliver.
Thanks.. it’s gotta be something wrong with it , because I get no sound wirelessly when it connects but I did order a dsp and a m11 dap plus.. I thought I’ll ask u before I send it back.. u very savvy with these products
@@Andre30006 You should get sound as long as your vehicle’s infotainment system is connected via Bluetooth to the BTR7. Make sure it’s connected to the BTR7 and not your iPhone
Hello 👋 hopefully you can help me, I'm very confused with dac options 😅 out there for car audio use mainly, I have tidal for stearming services and I'm putting a new sound system in my car which includes pioneer The DMH-W4660NEXand Audio control 1200.6 audio control 800.1 and HELIX DSP.3 just wondering if the Btr7 is the best choice or I need something more quality like mojo 2 ?🎉❤🎉
Your head unit is probably on par or better than the FiiO BTR7. I’d your DSP the .3 or .3s?
@@CarAudioHorizons DSP.3s
@@artmahmoudian2805 Ok then you have coaxial digital input on your DSP. I would buy a DAP but wait until FiiO releases their new ones or another company this year. As the previous year the only decent ones were the M11 Plus LTD and the M17.
@CarAudioHorizons so by any chance, will the btr7 be a better option for my galexy s22 ultra since I'm using tidal hifi p➕️ or I should for now skip the btr7
@@artmahmoudian2805 No go with an SMSL PO100 Pro and go digital optical or coaxial digital into your DSP
The btr5 used to have a bug where you couldn't use EQ with ldac. Is the bug fixed with the btr7?
It has a 10 Band Parametric EQ (Controlled by the app) which works with LDAC which is far superior to the EQ.
I have a Helix DSP Ultra so there was no need to use either in my car audio system.
@@CarAudioHorizons I'm not really into car audio at the moment because I hardly drive my car but it's interesting to know about the DSP ultra. I EQ all my headphones. Obviously parametric EQ is much more capable than graphic EQ.
@@kyron42 My review is based on using it in a vehicle but I did test it with a few headphones as well and it sounded great.
Technology is just getting better and better these days and here in Canada it’s $259 which I feel is a great price for what you get.
@@CarAudioHorizons thanks yes Zeos raved about it as well but then he raves about everything.
@@kyron42 I don’t think he has enough time to go over everything he reviews. He seems to do the review at the time of filming the product 😆
i need your help bro since not a soul in my world knows anything about this stuff.....
i have a Honda crv, it sounds like trash. what would you do from the ground up?
What year is it? Also what’s your budget?
@@CarAudioHorizons 2010 the ex model. im willing to go $1000 us dollars
@@sonicsega1699 Do you have any products already? Do you plan on doing the installation yourself?
I'm curious on how to hardwire this to my Helix V8 DSP MK2. Any help would be awesome.
Hey Mike what are you planing on hooking it up to? Phone, Tablet Helix Bluetooth Hec Module?
Also what inputs are you using now on your Helix V Eight MK2?
@@CarAudioHorizons I have the HEC BT module installed and plan on using my Samsung S22 Ultra as the audio source. I also have an Audison B-Con which will be hooked up using the toslink. I'm using rhe high level inputs and not any of the RCAs.
@@mike_saw_7563 Well in this video I showed multiple ways of connecting it to my Helix DSP Ultra which would be the same as your Helix V Eight if you’re trying to connect it to the RCA’s other than I’m using an iPhone or iPad. I’m just using the Audioquest 3.5 to RCA cable in the video. It just depends on which way you want to do it as you have the Hec Bluetooth module and I don’t at this time.
@@CarAudioHorizons So I am using inputs A, B, C and D on the V8 which comes from my factory radio but am using all the 8 outputs. So if I want to hardwire this I need to get a 3.5 to RCA cable and plug those RCAs into E or F on the input side of the Helix?
@@mike_saw_7563 I’m not 100% sure on the Helix V Eight as I know it’s slightly different to the Helix DSP Ultra but it will tell you in the manual.
I believe the inputs I’m using are G & H but I would have to take a look at the back. Also my analog input gain is slightly different as well as I have independent gains for each input, and to get to mine I had to take the cover off of the unit to adjust the analog gains.
hi can this drive the beyerdynamic dt1990 ?
Wish the case had a clip
I think you can buy a leather case with a clip.
@@CarAudioHorizons good to know, thanks 😊
OK curious why doesn’t the Apple cable that comes with my iPhone work with this dac? I do have the cable that came with the dac for the iPhone and it does work it’s just very short.
Also, I’m just wondering I get this kind of metallic sensation from the FiiO DACs I’m doing something wrong is there a way to lesson that.
One other thing the FiiO website does anybody know why it’s so slow and or if there’s another link for the firmware update because the website is almost impossible to access --so slow so very slow… the FiiO app says it’s updated, but the current firmware is V1.85 but I have 1.68.
I explained in the video and showed which cables you have to use, did you watch the video?
I’m not sure what you mean by metallic sound?
I had no issues updating to the latest software as it updated instantly.
Every FiiO product I have had that you can update the software online has been extremely easy in all the products I have tested.
I Just Want To Plug My 3.5 Aux Cable.In And Listen To My SHP9500 AND X2HR .
I'm looking for a Bluetooth Reciever ThatmWill Push MynHeadphones Better Than My FIIO BTR3K .
Well the BTR7 will work well with the majority of headphones
How can u use it with helix DSP ultrA ?
I explain it in the video
When in Bluetooth mode is it bluetooth lossless? Also, does this work with Apple Carplay?
This link will explain LDAC -> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDAC_(codec)
Also no Apple CarPlay is specific to IPhones
@@CarAudioHorizons Please one more question, If my iPhone is connected via bluetooth to my BTR7, and I plug the BTR7 into my car stereo, will that give me lossless? Thanks for your help!
@@JB19504 Nothing connected to an iPhone via Bluetooth will give you lossless as Apple’s highest codec for Bluetooth is AAC. You have to connect it like I show you in the video for lossless
@@CarAudioHorizons OK. Got it so far. My "BTR7 Apple Edition" comes with a USB 3.0 to lightning cable, so I don't need the camera adapter, correct? Also my new BMW doesn't have aux port, just USB, so I would need a female 3.5 to female USB adapter so I can plug the BTR7 into the car, correct?
@@JB19504 That’s not going to do you any good as the whole purpose of using the BTR7 is the DAC inside it when using it in a wired connection.
If you don’t have an auxiliary input or an aftermarket stereo system with a DSP in your vehicle then the BTR7 is pretty much useless for your vehicle.
I Don't Understand The Point Of Car Mode With BTR7
Works the same as all the other FiiO products with Car Mode
@CarAudioHorizons IVE neve used btr3k for car so what I'm saying is
if I can just Bluetooth my phone to my car whats the difference using BTR7
I Am Still Learning .
@@DroidLocks6971 Didn’t you say you bought the BTR7?
@CarAudioHorizons yes and I said I don't understand car mode and I'm asking for your help . Like I said I'm still learning
@CarAudioHorizons from my comments u can see I'm a novice and i can see youre a pro