Fiio BTR7 Bluetooth Headphone DAC: Delicious Audio Overkill!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- TEAM SGG PATREON / somegadgetguy Fiio BTR7 Review! It's a LITTLE Bluetooth adapter, but it delivers a BIG sound! This little DAC has a pair of incredible THX amps on tap, and it's one of the most powerful solutions I've ever used. Is it maybe TOO good? Can it get TOO loud? Let's take a listen!
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Dude! The BTR7 is SO GOOD! It was well worth the price tag.
Bought one as soon as I heard about them to replace my BTR5. The 7 is insane, I think I even dropped the gain from high to low, still loud, more clean.
Great review and thanks for the shoutouts!
These amps tho... Dang...
😊👋
Will this one work as a tabletop?
Great video as always 👍🏼. Watching this makes me appreciate my LG V60 that much more, i would love to see a updated video on the LG V60 on the channel by the way. Keep up the good work.
same here!
i have an Samsung S23 and Cambridge Melomania M100. The Cambridge Support aptxHD the Samsung phone not. Can i get the higher Codec on the BTR7 connect to the Samsung Smartphone?
The S23 should support LDAC, can you connect on that?
Thank you for this review. I am also sad that LG is out of smartphone market nevertheless I am very satisfied with 5 good years of using LG V30 as my smartphone and DAP altogether. It worked flawlessly with Mee Audio Pinnacle P1 (50 Ohm). Currently I upgraded phone to S22 Ultra but I am lacking of some good DAC + DAP combo with bluetooth capabilities.
I am also an early adopter of FiiO products! I bought my first X3 in 2013 when almost nobody heard about FiiO, then I had X3II X5, UTWS..
I like the company, their products and the sound their devices create so I think about buying FiiO BTR5 or BTR7, but I dont know if BTR7 is worth to pay more.
Is BTR7 much better than LG V30? Is BTR5 as good as V30 or better? How do they compare?
Cheers,
Pawel
I too am morning the loss of LG. I had been using my old G7 as a DAP. Sadly, the battery life has become shorter than what I need to get me through a cross country plane flight. I have am now using a Qudelix 5k. If you like using EQ, it's the way to go. It's got no problem powering my 80 ohm DT 770s. And even gets my modded Fostex T-20 as loud as I need. It does all the CODEX and it's light enough to clip to my collar or shirt pocket to use the mic for phone calls.
How do I connect the BTR7 to my Sony WF1000X from my phone with UCB-C. Can it be done? Thanks!!
The size is probably the deal breaker for me. The BTR5 is already kind of chonky for my use case. But FiiO makes great stuff. I just wish they didn't jack up the price needlessly by in cluding that scam MQA. You know they pay licensing for that trash, which the consumer gets to pay extra for. I do agree with the part that the amp is the important part, and usually the part that's lacking in both phones and even stuff like true wireless headphones. I mean you have to cram in a separate amplifier into each wireless bud, so you have very little space to work with. So many people confuse the bad sound they get with Bluetooth. Bluetooth LDAC or AptX HD sounds stellar - and a 320K MP3 is also fully transparent, basically no human can hear a difference between that or a FLAC. Hires, meanwhile, is basically again pure scam in my book, 44.1k/16 is more than plenty for human hearing.
One of the best selling points: it seems to be future-proof.
Especially for us older folks. Possibly more future-proof than we are.
I have heard BTR7 and I can say that I'm quite impressed by what I heard. I haven't tried both outputs (maybe until I get myself one, this is out of stock where I lived), but the balanced do output a clean sound and I probably like it more than my current daily driver, Ifi Go Blu.
Anyway, the balanced in this kind of product usually do sound slightly different than the single-ended, even at the same loudness. Even if your headphone/iem doesn't need the power from the balanced output, it's always worth a try to hear the differences and sometimes you might like the balanced output more.
Good review. One caveat; you actually DO want to have your volume all, or most of the way up. If you can get to your preferred listening level with a gain and volume setting that is maxed out, you are then making the most of your dac and amplifier’s dynamic range and noise performance. That is called gain structure.
If you increase the gain and then have to turn the volume control down, you are leaving performance on the table.
Bro! U r the reason I got into all LG phones (v20, v30, v40) when they existed and I got the btr3 and btr5 as well. Ur reviews helped a lot at those times.
I have seen like a ton of reviews over the past month for building my audio setup and man those reviews are confusing. Too many jargons and words that don’t really mean much. I stumbled on this video and ur channel after like 4-5 years and man I am glad. I am building my setup around the iPhone 15 plus and Apple Lossless audio and I finalised on hd600 which I just received today and now I am buying the btr7 because of this video! Thanks mate u r awesome! Keep up the good work ✌️
I think you'll be in for a treat 👍
Still mad about those tech UA-camrs for trashing LG. Sheer ignorance... UNGH
The lack of a clip or a lanyard hole is kind of a bummer for me. You either have to choose between using balanced and having no call capability or using the 3.5mm jack with an in-line mic while the device is in your pocket. Even then, I would actually prefer if there was a belt clip for it. It keeps my pockets lean.
As much as I like the BTR7, I think I would stick to the BTR5 for now. At this level of audio gear, I start choosing more on other attributes like form-factor, use case and featureset.
Supposedly there is GOING to be a clip to buy separate, but it's so much bigger than the 5, I don't think anyone is looking to clip that to their shirt. The 5 is JUST at that size where it works for me on a button up.
LG V60 user here. Need to upgrade phone but its 3.5 jack with astounding quality makes new phones weak, not to mention poor bluetooth solutions on modern androids. What setup (Android+DAC) would match V60 3.5 jack performance?
Just bought a btr7 and using it wired from a Samsung phone with Tidal into HD 600 headphones.
On high gain I'm having the volume between 21 to 26 out of 60, depending on the recording. I don't listen overly loud.
The btr7 battery lasted for about 3 hours and sounds excellent.
I like this combo better overall than the RME adi-2 dac and LCD-3F headphones I had previously.
That's a good combo!
I have the HD660s. Does the BTR7 play FLAC files?
Yeah this thing looks great but if someone wants to spend about the same amount of money they could probably get a grade A refurbished v60! And all the benefits that has outside of audio. Unless you need a balanced connection. Very glad to see this on the market.
Why do you think I threw in the LG comment at the end LOL
@@SomeGadgetGuy Its crazy how some of the remaining NEW LG V60s on Swappa are around $300.00. That's the price of a cheap midranger!
I'm currently using a refurbed V60 after replacing my refurbed V50. All thanks to Juan 😅
Lg v20, v30, v40 have slightly more output through 3.5 mm than v60...
If you are used to the previous models you may not like v60.
Note: v60 hasnt been tuned by meridian nor B&O
@@aatishr9908 oooooh, didn't get to try those tho
Its an absolute pleasure using this. This can drive the Sundara in balanced mode... No problem. The f***ng Sundara. I wasn't very happy with my Atom stack which was driving Sundara, but this thimble sized badass is driving it like a champ...
It's crazy right!
I was shocked how loud the BTR7 is compared to the BTR5 I love my BTR5 but the BTR7 has replaced it. A 4.4mm cable on my SE846 really brought the best out in them stronger bass sound clearer
Can you please tell me which cable you’re using for the se846?
I miss LG ..I just can't keep one cos I'm enjoying android 13 and used to the interface can't go back
Can anyone help me recommend a pair of iems for all around listing ?? I am sensitive to shrill notes due to some hearing damage.
ordered mine tonight, pairing with Shure SE 846
crazy how the regular consumer doesn't know about bluetooth amps and IEM's, they are far more articulate than airpods or beats earbuds
Can you provide a review? I have 846s and haven't seen any reviews yet
Will the BTR7 be enough to power Can Clark Aeon Noire 2s and how do you think they will sound. Thanks
This thing is so good it beats the headphone out of my Lynx Hilo which is a $4000 reference DAC. Tested on Hifiman Arya Stealth.
Do you know if the BTR7 can play FLAC files over phone or pc? Thank you!
Can someone please explain what the charging switch is for? I just charge the BTR7 and use it with my wired or wireless headphones. Why wouid you need a charging toggle?
EDIT: It somehow magicly works.
Just curious if i can use UA-cam, Netflix, HBO.... With it.
Currently only Tidal, and HiBy player works.
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Just got it, but the volume is extremely low while using the USB C from phone to BTR7, and 3.5mm to the headset.
Max volume on BTR7, Phone, headset.
Using headset built in Bluetooth, 2.4Ghz dongle, or 3.5mm to laptop is waaaaayyyy louder.
Tried low gain, high gain, boost, but nothing works.
I already updated the firmware, and restarted the BTR7 and Phone multiple times.
It also is very low volume with Phone Bluetooth to BTR7 and then 3.5mm to headset.
What could this be?
Using Audeze Penrose if it matters, but like i said it's louder on the default headset connection ways.
have a btr5, the maximum mV output is 2800. What can the higher output mV power be?
Hi, love this video.
How does this compare with things like the Ifi Gryphon? And i may have missed this but can you charge and listen at the same time?
Can that be used in the car ?
Can you make a video comparison the regular earbuds vs This kind of music technology because both of these is wireless and portable . this is the future of portable music did you agree with that
No fiio for me. Nowadays they make reidicoulsly bright sounding devices only
I used Fiio since their first headphone amp, and currently use BTR1K ,the downside is poor battery life. 9 hours in not enough.
Btr5 owner since original, now a btr7 owner.
The headroom is what makes this dollar for dollar a killer.
For my music EDM, fusion, world this just made the btr5 sound dull.
Best 240 Canadian I've spent.
Definitely need a CLIP case... Goddam fiio.
RIGHT! That included case is pants on head bad...
8:51 That's what I don't like about the current direction of smartphone market. If I spend at least $800 on a flagship phone, I want a complete hardware. I don't want to spend more money for external accessories on top of an already expensive smartphone in the first place. If I want to buy either of those external DACs or amps, I'd buy a cheap midrange smartphone, not an expensive flagship smartphone.
We really miss LG in the smartphone market a lot. We don't want to see both Samsung and Apple keep asserting their dominance in the smartphone market and make people think that they are the sole industry leader (which they aren't).
And yet most people think that people who buy premium flagship phones can spend more on wireless audio gears. Those kind of people are literally pushing consumerism further than before.
What does "balanced" mean when headphones say they use balanced connection
I am looking for something to brighten up my car stock speakers. I was mainly interested in the BTR7 then the m11 plus and q7 dsd512 caught my attention. Any suggestions which one would be best for my usage? Thanks
did you end up getting anything? im in the same situation
I ended up upgrading the entire system.
if they added an internal storage or SD card reader that would be better, and even better if phone makes care about customer.
till now I've upgrade recently to LG G7 it was really worth it, seeing the current state of phones is depressing I've had the chance to test all kind of phones what I've came to notice and a lot did say before more they are more of let me show you what he can do, daily driving it it's just boring, LG leaving the phone market was the last nail in the coffin for phones made to really daily drive, my last phone was a G6 I used it for 4 years even tho I've been hard on it I didn't manage to break it so yeah the current state is depressing......
ROG Phone 5s Pro has audiophile audio jack too look it up bro
loved this review ,very high quality explinatio0n
Hope have comparison BTR7 vs BTR15
Juan love the show brother. Would you believe , I still have my OG Jaybird BT earbuds? To me, they sounded the best of the 3. Battery still great. Also have a pair of Klipsch Neckband (Leather) N 6? I think ...was the name. Still works amazing. Also...If I still had the pair, of all the headphones via Bluetooth I've owned, aside from comfort , the Motorola original Motorola s 9?? They had amazing bass and all. Now I'm more into flat response like the Chinese AZN type. Love mine!!! They are wired. 22 bucks thanks to a vid you made in 2017 I think.
Doing it right 👍
A little bit louder now! A little bit louder now!
So essentially, if you have an LG quad dac phone, stick with that and save yourself $200/£150. If you have anything else, get a btr5/btr7/q3 type of dac amp to power up your mobile audio 👌
And where do you go when it's time to replace your AT LEAST two year old LG?
@@SomeGadgetGuy yeah sadly they won't last forever. At least we have more options now I guess. I'm using my g8x as a media player so I can get a decent interface/spotify/UA-cam music as I get frustrated with daps. Well, daps up to my budget of about £200 anyway...
What about Shangling UP5 :)
Question:
Current setup:
fiio f12 (NOT A DAC!)
Beyerdynamic DT 1770 250 OHM
I cant use my apple iphone
I use my mac
But I need the dac and would love BT possibility
Should I keep the FIIO F12 + get a btr3 as dac? Or btr5 as dac and still use my f12 as amp or get the btr7?
Hey, I just returned ifi XDSD Gryphon because I thought it's not worth it's price also not much better than BTR5 so does BTR7 sound as good as gryphon and is it much better than BTR5 2021?
while it sounds good, the screen and buttons implmentation is horrid! the screen is much larger but entire screen shows LDAC! and the vol numbers are now even smaller than that of BTR5. the buttons....if you wanna pause music, you have to tap once to wake the screen, then tap again to pause. and the screen dont even show that you have paused the music. why wake up the screen then??? a complete waste of its bigger colour screen. e.g. it will be more logical if the screen change to show the volume when one is adjusting it. and number changes colour like red if passed 60 to show harmful loudness and green to show normal listening volume etc so that the colour is information. really great sound and poor UI.
So my 3.5 head and earphones will sound better on the btrk7 than my btrk3 ? ? ?
OK curious why doesn’t the Apple cable that comes with my iPhone work with this dac? I do have the cable that came with the dac for the iPhone and it does work it’s just very short.
Also, I’m just wondering I get this kind of metallic sensation from the FiiO DACs I’m doing something wrong is there a way to lesson that.
One other thing the FiiO website does anybody know why it’s so slow and or if there’s another link for the firmware update because the website is almost impossible to access --so slow so very slow… the FiiO app says it’s updated, but the current firmware is V1.85 but I have 1.68.
In my area, BTR7 has the same price as ifi Go Blu. Would you recommend this over the Go Blu? Any thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance!
iBrasso DC03 is an amazing little piece of kit for smartphones also ! i absolutley love it and it just works, and i know exactly whhat you mean regearding the " up a little " and expeiencing not just volume but depth ! Deeeelicious
does a sub$20 IEM really want a BTR3K to drive it with a sifnificant change in output? ty
I have fiio fh5s pro and fiio q3 im using it on my pc only, can i blind buy Fiio BTR7? there will be "wow factor"? "damn ! thats a nice difference" ?
A quick question
Is this gonna give me more volume on iPhone? As the max volume on iPhone is way LOW!!!
Asus ROG Phone 5s Pro has ESS Sabre Pro Quad DAC integrated on their Audio Jack . The reason why i bought it lmao , LG wasn’t the only one got it !
Mines in the mail! Can't wait to use my Blue Ella's! All my devices need bluetooth
I still use my K3. Dont need Bluetooth but if ITS in why not. Is this New one an Upgrade Soundwise???
Are you able to use this with a usb c to 3.5mm jack male? For example using audio jack on a fligh.
By the power of Grey Skull... I HAVE THE POWER!!! Do-do-duh-do-da-doo...
If use usb to phone, can u use TWS ? Did order Btr7 and IEM Z12 but also own Momentum tw3.
I’ve yet to find buds that don’t hurt my stupid ears so BTR5 with any of my headphones works better. Besides, my Koss KPH30i sound so darn good. Now I’m gonna have to try the BTR7!
What about Audio Technica MSR7b plus BTR7 vs BTR52021 ?
I Love My Hidizs S9 Pro DAC AMP DONGLE Especially With Mt 2.5 balanced ear and headphones
I don't really use my HiFiman headphones away from my office desk and even less given a personal preference for IEM's. On the go, I almost exclusively use IEM's. My favorite setups...for office and on-the-go...either my S12's paired to KZ AZ09 PRO bluetooth earhooks (modded for the B-pin), or my TKZK Waves with KZAZ09 Pro's (C-pin/QDC), or my KZ PR1 HiFi's with CCA BTX BT earhooks. The IEM's all have good sound isolation and the BT earhook's offer good call quality, too (CVC). For the planar's I lose about 15% battery life (5.5hrs down from 6.5 hours) by going into Power Mode (3 successive clicks to left earhook button on either AZ09 Pro or the BTX).
Sometimes I switch-up to the BTR5 for its LDAC and usually cable this to either the S12's or Truthear Hexa's for music enjoyment. I use the FiiO BTA30Pro ($125; TX, RX, DAC modes) at the desk to transmit LDAC for the BTR5 or AptX for the BT earhooks. The BTA30Pro is a terrific device and I also use it as a DAC into my desktop vintage receiver w/bookshelf speakers.
Although the BTR7 is a better unit and mouth watering...the BTR5 suits me just fine for my IEM needs.
Enjoying the convenience of my EarStudio es100. Will take a listen of these if it conks out.
Excellent review. I own Qudelix, Fiio Btr5 2021 and Hip dac. Fiio products are neutral with poor app control. I am planning to buy Ifi go blu. What's your recommendation IFi go blu or Btr7?
if connected to an android phone via usb does playback cease when a call is received and does the mic kick in to enable on the fly conversation?
Btr7 and performers 5 can’t complain best portable dac.
Ive got the audio technica ath-r70x headphones is the btr7 good with it?
What happens if you plug a DJI Mic receiver into the USB port, and connect the audio jack to a video recording device (cam, or phone with a jack port)?
Hey juan. Any update on the btr5 and q3 replacement?
Tried X5iii, BTR3 and Q5. If given the choice I would go with portability over audio quality. The Q5 is just too chunky. And X5iii as a PAP is just an extra device with worse hardware and outdated Android. So BTR or UTWS it is for me.
10:24 was that Brisco County??
If so, noice
Also, obviously; super review: sometimes you need a specific set of tools, for a "specific set of skills"
Also looks surprisingly pocketable
Hi can I connect this dongle to my Samsung TV via Bluetooth? Thanks
I'm sure your Samsung tv would output its sound by Bluetooth into this then wired or wireless headphones but no clue what codecs Samsung TVs use on their Bluetooth so it could be utterly pointless except to amplify some very quiet volume levels. But short answer YES of course you could.
What it likely won't do is stream over usb to this device then out to headphones tv's aren't designed to output sound from the usb the way phones are.
What should i get if i have an iPhone and iem headphones? 😢
Something with a good amp. Unfortunately iphones don't support any of the fancy BT codecs.
Yeah. I'll just get the BTR5 to start. It's $100.
The btr5 used to have a bug where you couldn't use EQ with ldac. Is the bug fixed with the btr7?
I hope qudelix successor come out soon to beat btr7
Hello, does the eq work only in fiio music app or android wide? Thanks :)
Can LDAC be used in iPhone with this DAC?
No ios does not support Ldac
Does the Bluetooth play nice with Apple products: iPhone 14 max pro, air pods pro, air max over ear? Due to an ear impairment mainly looking at the amp side for increased volume. I’ll mostly be using it with iPhone via BT.
You won't get the better codecs for wireless hi-res, but the amp should perform the same.
Perhaps I've missed it but I can't exactly find an answer to my question. With the 7 or 5, can I use them to transmit audio to Bluetooth headphones?
For example can I use it to transmit audio from my mixer to my Bluetooth headphones.
I have audio coming out of my mixer and going out to my headphones and when I'm not doing any serious editing I would love to put down the reference headphones, go wireless and use something more to the size of like airpods or something
No not to bluetooth headphones it only uses the 3.5mm 2.5mm or 4.4mm jack it won't output to Bluetooth headphones
You need to review Tanchjim Zero, Moondrop Chu, or the Moondrop Dawn. They're killing it in the budget realm. I've seen the measurements of BTR7 and while it's too bad, it definitely isn't a market leader for it's price.
The Dawn is a USB-only adapter-style DAC, it's not even in the same product category as the BRT7. And the other two are earbuds WTF?
@@gospelofrye6881 lol
It's polite to ask rather than to demand.
And if this product isn't a market leader, what is...?
I haven't upgraded to the BTR7...It would be nice if the included case had a clip.. Luck of the draw I know a Leather Worker!
It really is kind of silly. I'm glad there IS a case, but it's sort of useless.
What are your thoughts on the dongles that have the Realtek ALC5686 in them? That chip is capable of 32/384 just like the Quad DAC and to me... sounds about similar
realtek is capable if they want to, just like fiio and edifier
It's been a long time since I have seen a review of you (used to watch (LG) mobile reviews but lost interest in mobiles)
Extra power guaranties a good base on all drivers I think, it's not that I always want extra base but when I do want it to be there.
P.s. they sell a lose case with clip, I was hoping the one that comes with it had one too.
I need that clip case. The soft case is useless...
As an lg v30 owner, who can probably still get half the price of this dac to sell it, seems a no brainer to me, the v30 is long in the tooth and slow and I’m expecting this to be a fair upgrade
At least LG kept the DAC all the way until the V60.
Did you find EQ only works in BT source? was testing it connected with iPhone and lightning adapter. Didn't hear any changes oddly. But do hear changes when connected in BT.
*Update* Found this in FAQ:
- 12. Will EQ take effect in USB DAC mode?
In UAC2.0 mode, EQ cannot be adjusted. While in Bluetooth and UAC1.0 mode, EQ can be adjusted.
-- EQ is not supported in UAC 2.0 mode. In UAC 1.0 mode or Bluetooth mode, EQ is supported.
Can i connect my lavalier microphone to Btr 7? Does it work?
I don't think that would work no.
@@SomeGadgetGuy May you try if you have one? Waiting for your answer :)
BTR7 vs Onyx? Which one you prefer and why? I'm trying to decide between both of them.
It mostly depends on what you think you'll need most. Cabled playback, the THX is just easier plug and play. If you want balanced on a platform that offers cabled or wireless, the Fiio is TOUGH to beat.
Please do a review of the NextDrive Spectra X!
As a og btr5 user i am a bit envious. But with the stuff i run, i guess i am ok.
Also juan check the moo drop quarks, they are a tenner (about 10 usd). And they are a awesome in ear style earbud and the mic in them is really good! I constantly get about how good their mic is.
let's be honest.. who has ever gotten the actual 9 hours out of their bluetooth dac/amp? I have the fiio BTR1K and the longest i get is about 4.5 hours even though it says "working time 8 hours" yeah right.
Same energy as laptop manufacturers saying it can get 20 hours when it can barely go over 4 hours for heavy use.
Wait so the 3.5 jack is trrs??
Pass. For portable I have Khadas tea and gryphon
How is the sound from Khadas Tea? Pretty disappointed with BTR 7 :(
@@prasad.k.shetty why? I like btr5
@@prasad.k.shetty i have tested with Kato and sounds impressive considering it does NOT have balanced output yet. Nevertheless I tried it with P1 max and feel like they are not well Powered , not surprising considering that are planar iems and those are more hungry in general. But it still sounds decently well. The experience of connecting to iPhone is one of a kind. Definitely one of My Best purchases
After my LG G7 Thinq device got damaged , I needed an portable device to use with my iPhone 12 . Was hoping BTR 7 would be a little closer sound wise, seeing all the raving reviews !! Nowhere close to LG. So kind of disappointed. 🙃
@@leonardopapantoniou4227 My other option was Questyle M15. Planning to sell off BTR 7 . Khadas tea is not yet available in India.
Does this work with Apple Music Lossless? Sorry for being so clueless.
It'll "work" with anything, but the host device is what's going to matter the most. It will connect to an iPhone fine, but the iPhone can only use AAC. That's "very good" quality, but wont send as much data to the Fiio as Aptx Adaptive or LDAC. It's funny, but the highest quality wireless playback for Apple Music Lossless will be on Android.
How about a link to the updated btrk5 . . .
Will it handle 300 ohms
Ugh. I'm using a qudelix 5k and I'm happy but I'm really wanting a 4.4 balanced port. This video is making me open my waller more.
LOL I know. The gear acquisition syndrome is real.