Lian Li has always been at the forefront of innovation. Have always loved their cases, but back in the day they were so expensive relative to the competition. The O11 Dynamic was my first Lian Li case ever. $150 is starting to push what I'm willing to spend; but if they can get the vid card power cable figured out, this may be my next one!
I'm seeing one major issue with SUP01 that is both intake-exhaust are side by side. Since the way it has TG panel as conventional side, the case is most likely goes towards the side of wall where the hot air will be dumped and reflected back while the intakes will suck the same hot air again. So doesn't look like temps will be good in this case.
@@JoFreeman333 Yeah coz the only other intake is always occupied by a graphics card which is the hottest component of pc and will fill the case with hot air always
I've been proposing the gpu layout of the first case since ssupd meshlicious came out; imagine this design on a mini itx case: basically it allows you to use a regular size cpu cooler with just 1-2 extra cm and still plenty of space in the bottom for psu e disk tray, while rn almost every itx case forces you to go aio or ultra compact air cooler which, most of the times, ends up being suboptimal.
Love Lian Li, but they weren't the first to the removable mobo tray. Perhaps they were the first to make an ATX slide-out tray? The SUP looks interesting and I appreciate anything which makes full ATX cases slimmer.
4:43 Why couldn't you air cool it? My air cooled 011D has 3 intake on the side/front, 2 intake on the bottom, and 2 exhaust on the top. Just move the 2 top exhaust to the back and that's totally doable in the Vision. Now please Lian Li, give us an 011D EVO RGB Mini!!
That SUP 01 is a neat idea. I especially like the location of the front I/O and power/reset buttons. I hope they will offer one with more mesh panels. There's too much glass on many of these cases. Where are the new 'silent series' case designs? These are for showing off and are a bit impractical.
I tried this gpu orientation with my lian li o11 evo. The thermal wasn't great and the best position for a strix gpu is the vertical orientation in a normal mode setup.
🤩Lian Li is Intelligent Innovative Design with ❤Love ❤for the Hardware Enthusiast💯! 🙂And all this at a very good price-performance ratio! I own 3 cases from Lian Li 1x O11Dynamic 1x Lancool II Mesh 1x Lancool 216 and I'm all super satisfied and the building in them was great always a perfect experience Lian Li forever❕ Forever Lian Li ❗
I've been eyeing up a new case for my 4090 fe. The sup looks nice but I can't help but want a o11 upright or a y60. If lian li sees this, launch the o11 vision with upright (not verticle) gpu support the 240 aio on the rear and you have my money for sure.
This makes me wonder, was Lian Li or In Win first with the removable motherboard tray? Or was there someone else that they both copied? It's been so long I no longer remember. I do remember that AOpen had a very easy to work with chassis. It was all plastic with metallic shielding and swung the motherboard out the side with all cards installed and ready. Cable routing for HDD's, FDD's, and CD drives was a bit tricky at first, but I made a cable routing rig that helped pre-fold all the drive cables making a neat bundle that could be dropped in place. But that was at least a year after Lian Li and In Win had chassis with removable motherboard trays. Other manufacturers copied this functionality, but most of them just had a removable MB tray, but did not allow you to slide it out with all cards installed.
Im knocking on the table before writing it,but the Lian Li does not expect another Gpu shortage,but it would pretty funny to see there a gt 730,or 210 in the front of the case to be fair.
I miss the 100% plex cases. I still have one with my resto machine that is a multi boot 98se, xp home, xp pro, win7 system.. and yes 7 is slow, just wanted to see if it would work, I had win10 on it also but it was un-usable.. lol.
I can appreciate them iterating to inprove, and quite like the new designs, but personally i am fed up with glass and lights everywhere. In fact i was so fed up with it i just changed to an Asus Prime ap201 case, no glass or lighting, lots of mesh!
Taking the cool air in with hot gpu then making the air hotter and blowing that hot air through other components on the way to exaust and making them more hotter. Does that make sense? 🤔
That air gets sucked out by the dual exhaust fans directly perpendicular to the GPU, before it reaches the mobo or CPU (according to Gamers Nexus). Fresh air is pulled in from the dual side intake fans and also exhausted from the adjacent fans.
btw, it has now been proven that mounting the GPU in any direction beyond the traditional way does affect temps in a bad way. In the video this was, by far, the worst for temps by 10-20c, and it all has to do with how the wick (vapour chamber) system was designed to work. It uses gravity to achieve what it does. Now if a card was designed for this mounting style it would have lower temps.
Am I crazy or would just making the top be mesh for fans improve this significantly? I can never get behind the tempered glass every panel trend latley
I for one could care less about tempered glass side panels. I don't like that trend at all, no matter how beautiful computer cases look. For me, I prefer a plain side panel as I don't care about what's inside my computer. But even then, I don't mind hiding my computer anyway.
@@graysonpeddie I would hardly call tempered glass a trend, they been doing it for years lol I think most people that build their rig just want to show their "hard" work off. PCs now are pretty much "tech art"
@@graysonpeddie The side panel is literally the only panel that pretty much doesnt matter whether its glass or not lol. I find it funny that you only dislike a glass side panel but front, rear, and top glass panels are somehow fine for you. The best configuration is glass side panel with mesh front, rear, and top, which is why that has been the staple case setup for years now.
@@username8644 The only benefit I can think of for a solid side panel is to put in a layer of sound proofing. Or if you want to hide the components or cables. Otherwise, TG is perfectly fine on the side panel.
@@username8644 I did not say top, front, or back or whatever is fine for me. If I would have said "plain" panels in all sides, I would have explicitly said that outright with no room for assumptions to draw from. Ugh... You of all humans... Making false assumptions is second nature for all of us... (sigh)
Well it did get smaller at one point. For example the 10 series had many mini itx cards which in comparison to previous generations these were way smaller and significantly more power efficient and stayed very cool. Yes it does appear that we have been going backwards these last 3-4 years. As now GPUs are significantly bigger, consume more power, and run even hotter than even the dual processor ATI cards from back in the day which we used to all meme about 6-8 years ago because they were so ridiculous. Modern gpus are more ridiculous than those now and they only have 1 processor on them, they arent dual gpu.
This concept is LONG overdue. I'm sure I'm not the first, but I have my own concept drawings from 2015 with this exact layout. My idea is slightly different for reasons I won't get into here, but the overall idea was to take advantage of the natural stack effect. At the end of the day, though, it felt pointless when you consider vertical ITX cases without riser cables. The side-by-side radiator fan setup makes absolutely no sense though. Enjoy that self-defeating heat loop.
Also another comment lmao. Not at all a fan of the lian li worded buttons. Rotate it beside the io and make it your circular LL logo in black or if you wanna get fancy at a cheap little touch sensor button. Ideally no branding would be visible from the desk ideally but a little LL logo is the most ill happily go for.
Agreed. I love everything about this case, especially it’s compactness while retaining ATX, but the power buttons kinda ruin it for me. I don’t want to have to push “Lian” every time I am powering on my PC.
The use of a riser is unnecessary. The gpu io is at the bottom in this case. Just rotate the whole thing (mobo and gpu) and you can achieve this layout without that riser. Instead of making a separate gpu tray, just make the whole mobo tray rotatable.
My first 2 questions for the SUP 01 are 1. Is there a vented side panel instead of glass option. 2. will the riser cable have wiggle room so i can fit expansion cards (that fit) ? 3. bonus question, how easy can we route tube to the front for a water build? and will their be a front glass panel?
PLEASE! STOP saying that 4.0 riser is something unique! ITS NOT! 3.0 and 4.0 riser ARE IDENTICAL! PCIE Version depends on the Motherboard and GPU not on the cable connecting them!
I don't know what they teach these days but in the past it was considered more disruptive to call out people for walking past the camera than commenting. Just mentioning for people who are working on video production, not a dig.
Lian Li seem to be the only case designers actually putting thought and engineering into their designs. Hopefully the thermals actually show a reason to buy beyond aesthetics.
doesn't look optimized for airflow. Also not enough thermal paste. Looks cool, but the functionality of it is subpar. I'd like to see some thermal test on it, This is form>function. Ricer design.
Lian Li has always been at the forefront of innovation. Have always loved their cases, but back in the day they were so expensive relative to the competition. The O11 Dynamic was my first Lian Li case ever. $150 is starting to push what I'm willing to spend; but if they can get the vid card power cable figured out, this may be my next one!
I'm on my second Dynamic (the XL). I will be moving to the Evo XL, especially if it can do a mesh front.
You guys have the best quality video for the computex event. So thankful 🙏🏼
I'm seeing one major issue with SUP01 that is both intake-exhaust are side by side. Since the way it has TG panel as conventional side, the case is most likely goes towards the side of wall where the hot air will be dumped and reflected back while the intakes will suck the same hot air again.
So doesn't look like temps will be good in this case.
Exactly my thoughts on this. Not sure how to work around it.
@@JoFreeman333 Yeah coz the only other intake is always occupied by a graphics card which is the hottest component of pc and will fill the case with hot air always
Space for one intake fan below the gpu would allow cool air for memory and cpu… maybe sup02 will do that!
The "jump in" from Dmitry to Mike is excellent!
Some of these new cases are crazy creative and innovative.
realy nice they make so many awesome cases for ppl that enjoy displaying their systems, while still being more than viable cooling/airflow wise 👍
I've been proposing the gpu layout of the first case since ssupd meshlicious came out; imagine this design on a mini itx case: basically it allows you to use a regular size cpu cooler with just 1-2 extra cm and still plenty of space in the bottom for psu e disk tray, while rn almost every itx case forces you to go aio or ultra compact air cooler which, most of the times, ends up being suboptimal.
Love Lian Li, but they weren't the first to the removable mobo tray. Perhaps they were the first to make an ATX slide-out tray?
The SUP looks interesting and I appreciate anything which makes full ATX cases slimmer.
Silverstone ALTA G1M does a great jpb of this too from a smaller form factor perspective
was about to comment this!
Though the G1M could have had more features to it such as fan/rad support in more areas.
4:43 Why couldn't you air cool it? My air cooled 011D has 3 intake on the side/front, 2 intake on the bottom, and 2 exhaust on the top. Just move the 2 top exhaust to the back and that's totally doable in the Vision. Now please Lian Li, give us an 011D EVO RGB Mini!!
The SUP looks great the only thing I'd personally like to see was another 45-50mm hight for exhaust fans and a mesh top panel 👏
I'm not Adrian newey I can't see wind but I would imagine a airflow pattern like this relies on being pretty close to 50/50 pressure to work.
guys dropping bangers
Love the SUP 01, love the TL fans, but I want that perspex case that they have them installed in!
just installed the black trinity performace, what a cooling beast and noise is ok, awesome cooler for performance
Now you can even more audible coil whine through your front intake
Lian Li are some of my favorite go to cases.
Just built my first pc with the lancool 216. Very pleased, not to mention you cant beat the price - 2x160 + 140 fans, come on son.
If the SUP 01 can support mobos with the connectors on the back, it would be such a beautiful case.
Might complicate and reduce the space for the aio, even if capable, might affect performance
I want that 100% acrylic O11 clone they used to demo those expensive fans
I'm still happy with my O11 XL... will probably build my next setup in the same case.
Lian Li truly are masters of RGB
That SUP 01 is a neat idea. I especially like the location of the front I/O and power/reset buttons. I hope they will offer one with more mesh panels.
There's too much glass on many of these cases. Where are the new 'silent series' case designs? These are for showing off and are a bit impractical.
It honestly would look better with just the one glass panel or all panels are mesh. And there should be a tan location at the top
Wouldn't the hot exhaust air just get immediately sucked back into the case?
I'd bet the best configuration is all 6 fans on exhaust. Let it intake from the front via negative pressure.
@@kibels894 So how does the cpu get cooled?
Are these able to be flipped so that they are accessed on the other side?
I hope the sup 01 comes out in a Matx form factor
I tried this gpu orientation with my lian li o11 evo. The thermal wasn't great and the best position for a strix gpu is the vertical orientation in a normal mode setup.
i have a 3070 strix in the mesh II. With intake fans i can attest, it never gets hot even when OC. Even with a 280mm push pull aio front mounted.
Lian li is like the godfather of PC cases and fans
They're probably not strong enough to cause problem, but i feel like magnets for the hdd cage is not the best idea.
Nah, the cage magnets are not strong enough and are far away from the drive.
-D.
Can you put a full waterblock GPU in the front still? or would you need to put it in a normal slot
I'm thinking that a 60mm rad with fans will fit in the side position on the EVO XL. That would be something!
🤩Lian Li is Intelligent Innovative Design with ❤Love ❤for the Hardware Enthusiast💯!
🙂And all this at a very good price-performance ratio! I own 3 cases from Lian Li 1x O11Dynamic
1x Lancool II Mesh 1x Lancool 216 and I'm all super satisfied and the building in them was great
always a perfect experience Lian Li forever❕ Forever Lian Li ❗
I've been eyeing up a new case for my 4090 fe. The sup looks nice but I can't help but want a o11 upright or a y60. If lian li sees this, launch the o11 vision with upright (not verticle) gpu support the 240 aio on the rear and you have my money for sure.
The mirror will attract some dust so fast 😅
This makes me wonder, was Lian Li or In Win first with the removable motherboard tray? Or was there someone else that they both copied? It's been so long I no longer remember.
I do remember that AOpen had a very easy to work with chassis. It was all plastic with metallic shielding and swung the motherboard out the side with all cards installed and ready. Cable routing for HDD's, FDD's, and CD drives was a bit tricky at first, but I made a cable routing rig that helped pre-fold all the drive cables making a neat bundle that could be dropped in place. But that was at least a year after Lian Li and In Win had chassis with removable motherboard trays.
Other manufacturers copied this functionality, but most of them just had a removable MB tray, but did not allow you to slide it out with all cards installed.
I still wish Lian Li would add a mesh front panel option for the O11 and its revisions to add fans there as well.
They still haven't added Coolant Temperature as a fan curve on Lconnect 3!
Anyone knows when is gonna be for sale the New cases ?
Im knocking on the table before writing it,but the Lian Li does not expect another Gpu shortage,but it would pretty funny to see there a gt 730,or 210 in the front of the case to be fair.
I want a shorter version of that riser cable for my case
Can't wait to install my old trusty ZOGIS GTX 770 Superclocked in that SUP case
I miss the 100% plex cases. I still have one with my resto machine that is a multi boot 98se, xp home, xp pro, win7 system.. and yes 7 is slow, just wanted to see if it would work, I had win10 on it also but it was un-usable.. lol.
I can appreciate them iterating to inprove, and quite like the new designs, but personally i am fed up with glass and lights everywhere. In fact i was so fed up with it i just changed to an Asus Prime ap201 case, no glass or lighting, lots of mesh!
when he said 4 slot gpu i was like LUL but what about the water-cooling potential then this shot 1:15 XD
I may be stupid but in the first case were the f are the video ports ??
perfect reaction at 14:35... DUDE! 👍
If the EVO XL can have a Mesh front, I'll be super happy!
it does
Nice design!
Taking the cool air in with hot gpu then making the air hotter and blowing that hot air through other components on the way to exaust and making them more hotter. Does that make sense? 🤔
+1 - Hardware 🦆 is starting to be a clickbate meme with their lack of common sense
Depends if the item is already hotter than the air thats being apply it will still cool it.
But yea hopefully the fix it
Also who the put USB ports on the bottom of case is just plain stupid. Now you have a bunch of dangling wires if it was lower.
Thats Great but where is the Lian Li DAN Cases A3 m-ATX please find out ????
I'd like to know how much clearance space there is in the back. Would it be possible to mount 2x 360 AIOs (CPU +GPU)?
Does the O11D EVO RGB case allow for an inverted layout as well? It's not mentioned on the official Lian Li site.
I think the answer is yes. The motherboard tray can be inverted.
do we really want the gpu's hot exhaust blowing onto the cpu though?
That air gets sucked out by the dual exhaust fans directly perpendicular to the GPU, before it reaches the mobo or CPU (according to Gamers Nexus). Fresh air is pulled in from the dual side intake fans and also exhausted from the adjacent fans.
btw, it has now been proven that mounting the GPU in any direction beyond the traditional way does affect temps in a bad way. In the video this was, by far, the worst for temps by 10-20c, and it all has to do with how the wick (vapour chamber) system was designed to work. It uses gravity to achieve what it does. Now if a card was designed for this mounting style it would have lower temps.
I think mike meant to say LCD instead of RGB in the end there. 😅
Am I crazy or would just making the top be mesh for fans improve this significantly? I can never get behind the tempered glass every panel trend latley
I for one could care less about tempered glass side panels. I don't like that trend at all, no matter how beautiful computer cases look. For me, I prefer a plain side panel as I don't care about what's inside my computer. But even then, I don't mind hiding my computer anyway.
@@graysonpeddie I would hardly call tempered glass a trend, they been doing it for years lol I think most people that build their rig just want to show their "hard" work off. PCs now are pretty much "tech art"
@@graysonpeddie The side panel is literally the only panel that pretty much doesnt matter whether its glass or not lol. I find it funny that you only dislike a glass side panel but front, rear, and top glass panels are somehow fine for you. The best configuration is glass side panel with mesh front, rear, and top, which is why that has been the staple case setup for years now.
@@username8644 The only benefit I can think of for a solid side panel is to put in a layer of sound proofing. Or if you want to hide the components or cables. Otherwise, TG is perfectly fine on the side panel.
@@username8644 I did not say top, front, or back or whatever is fine for me. If I would have said "plain" panels in all sides, I would have explicitly said that outright with no room for assumptions to draw from.
Ugh... You of all humans... Making false assumptions is second nature for all of us... (sigh)
Lian Li or SSUP should do a standard mid tower that's all mesh. Why hasn't anyone done it yet?
@Hardware Canucks - What is the max motherboard size for the Lian Li Sup 01?
Can I ask what is your CPM for your channel, dear sir?
This is like the cutout on iphone cases for apple logo visibility, but for PCs
crazy to think we need are case that can support 390mm long GPU's isn't technology meant to get smaller as we advance
Well it did get smaller at one point. For example the 10 series had many mini itx cards which in comparison to previous generations these were way smaller and significantly more power efficient and stayed very cool. Yes it does appear that we have been going backwards these last 3-4 years. As now GPUs are significantly bigger, consume more power, and run even hotter than even the dual processor ATI cards from back in the day which we used to all meme about 6-8 years ago because they were so ridiculous. Modern gpus are more ridiculous than those now and they only have 1 processor on them, they arent dual gpu.
Is it just me or does the Vision only appear to have exhaust fans setup on it? How the hell will that work??
It has their new reverse blade fans in it.
@@devvin Really? Cool. Will keep an eye out.
This concept is LONG overdue. I'm sure I'm not the first, but I have my own concept drawings from 2015 with this exact layout. My idea is slightly different for reasons I won't get into here, but the overall idea was to take advantage of the natural stack effect. At the end of the day, though, it felt pointless when you consider vertical ITX cases without riser cables. The side-by-side radiator fan setup makes absolutely no sense though. Enjoy that self-defeating heat loop.
Magnets on the Hard drive cage? I don't know...
Another glass box with lights...they should make more cases like the V3000.
The question is does that first case fit a 4090?
Is it confirmed we cannot mount 80mm fans in the SUP?
Beautiful Fingerprint Magnet ... THey know what they do after all these Years :)
В такой корпус воткнуть 4090 и, если поместится, гигу з790 мастер на 13900к. Будет топ !!?
Still have a PC60 somewhere
Also another comment lmao. Not at all a fan of the lian li worded buttons. Rotate it beside the io and make it your circular LL logo in black or if you wanna get fancy at a cheap little touch sensor button. Ideally no branding would be visible from the desk ideally but a little LL logo is the most ill happily go for.
Agreed. I love everything about this case, especially it’s compactness while retaining ATX, but the power buttons kinda ruin it for me. I don’t want to have to push “Lian” every time I am powering on my PC.
On this case Lian is your Main Click and Li is your Side Click
i just want a pc with all black lcp 28 fans
should have fans in the bottom as intake lol
That looks so cool.
Does it keep everything cool though? 🤔
When will this RGB Insanity end?
Mike is so tanned
Sold!
Mike reminds me of Rick Moranis.
The use of a riser is unnecessary. The gpu io is at the bottom in this case. Just rotate the whole thing (mobo and gpu) and you can achieve this layout without that riser. Instead of making a separate gpu tray, just make the whole mobo tray rotatable.
But then accessing the motherboard I/O becomes a nightmare.
-D.
My first 2 questions for the SUP 01 are
1. Is there a vented side panel instead of glass option.
2. will the riser cable have wiggle room so i can fit expansion cards (that fit) ?
3. bonus question, how easy can we route tube to the front for a water build? and will their be a front glass panel?
Display port problem good spot..
I couldn't help but notice that Lian Li was almost the only case manufacturer not to sponsor this video ... 😏
Wait.. Mangets near the hard drives? Really?
PLEASE! STOP saying that 4.0 riser is something unique! ITS NOT! 3.0 and 4.0 riser ARE IDENTICAL! PCIE Version depends on the Motherboard and GPU not on the cable connecting them!
I don't know what they teach these days but in the past it was considered more disruptive to call out people for walking past the camera than commenting. Just mentioning for people who are working on video production, not a dig.
Wow I want this case. But with my 4090FE won't I be moving air both in and out?
14:36 😂
Lian Li has the case game on lock!!!! Did you come across any dual system cases? Thanks
GPU are NOT trophies, don't encourage them to make them more expensive.
Lian Li seem to be the only case designers actually putting thought and engineering into their designs. Hopefully the thermals actually show a reason to buy beyond aesthetics.
Have you ever heard about Fractal Design?
GPU thermals in ALL of these upright positions are going to be terrible with anything other than custom watercooling.
Why?
@@babykanga11 Because of vapor chambers used in modern GPUs, they don't cool properly when used in an upright vertical orientation.
Creative cooling design but this will amplify GPU coil whine
How?
Who is Leanne Lee?
LOL. Bad marketing?
I'm almost as old as Lian Li but i've only discovered them last year.
No, it's just you...
5:35 Look at that cameo 😁by Pedro @Officialpcmr
doesn't look optimized for airflow. Also not enough thermal paste. Looks cool, but the functionality of it is subpar. I'd like to see some thermal test on it,
This is form>function. Ricer design.
My wife thinks you look like a techy version of Chris Pratt.
I’ll take it 😂
-D.
Future compatibility = 5 slot 450mm GPU. XD
I really wish Lian Li would make their logo removeable for a cleaner look
🤘