Bronze Isn't Third Place to Us! Prospecting for Alloy Materials! Vintage Story Guide S2 (1.18) Ep 16
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2023
- In today's episode, we head out on a short journey to the south, where we picked up some tin and bismuth on our prospecting pick. We review how to prospect for ore, including how to zero in on the source, and then we get to mining! Then we bring it all home, gather a bit of silver from a quartz vein, and take a look at the different kinds of bronze available to us!
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Did you know that Prospector Info has a heat map that will help you target a certain ore in places that you have already prospected? You have to enable it, but it is quite awesome!
I love the heat map now that I know redder is more ore and blue is less!
Thanks Hypi!
You know, I read the patch notes on it, but I've never actually tinkered with that! Now I have to figure out how to enable the ProspectorInfo window again... XD
@@Kurazarrh Please update us if you find out how to enable the window
@@mshambaPGrated Looking at the ProspectorInfo details, it looks like you can show the gui with the command ".pi showgui true" in chat without quotes.
@@Kurazarrh Awesome! Going to try it out tonight! Thanks for updating!
Thanks so much for the sweet shout out! I sooo appreciate it :) Love your content 🥰🥰
:D Thank you! Wishing you the best of luck with your channel and content! :)
Oh yeah shoutout to Hypi. She has some great stuff.
Yeah I'm really enjoying her playthrough!
Thanks you guys! ❤
@@HypnotiqueAKAHypiSorry about your fruppy pog. We had a similar situation a couple of months ago with our Copper.
I used this game to help me cope. I hope some off camera action will be fun for you! ❤❤❤
@PatrioticMotors thanks so much, he has been missed so much already :(
Hey, bronze age 4 episodes earlier this time.
Yeah! Going for an accelerated progression through the ages, though getting to iron might take a little longer since there are a number of builds I want to do along the way.
This is a good pace
When updating to the latest version, the world was corrupted 78 hours of play lost, I was very discouraged, but I already started another new world, as a motivation I set out to reach the bismuth bronze before the first winter😢😢
I also had performance problems after updating the Nvidia video driver specifically with vertical sync, the frame rate looks like a heart rate meter being active and only in full screen it happens😅😅😅
Oh no! That's really unfortunate! :( You might consider using the /genbackup command every now and then to get backups of your world.
I'm on AMD, but I've had performance issues with any drivers newer than May 2022. >.
@@Kurazarrh amd is very permissive with its driver optimizations,😅. I will take into account making backup copies in each game session, and regarding the problem I will install the old drivers to see if I solve the problem, thanks and I am a big fan I learned a lot with your series
Make manual backups. I do every session. Make a shortcut to where you game save is, put said shortcut in a folder called vs backup saves or something akin to, rightclick to make a new folder, and drop the most current save in said folder. Niw whenever you close the game out just make a new folder, right click the save the game just made upon exiting the game (either all the way out or to main menu) copy, and paste in the new folder. I'll do that about eight or nine times before clearing out all but three of em to repeat the process. Sorry you lost a good chunk of time invested. Save game corruption is always a pain in the arse.
I've read somewhere vsync can have negetive results so i turned it off. Also limiting your max fps can help. Even though its not a very demanding game graphics wise, its still ALOT to process given that it has particules, bloom, moving plants in wind, voxel, rifts randomly forming and closing, underground stuph being loaded and unloaded etc etc. Alot to still process. Im running a rx 480 and its doing good, but im not flooring it with the graphics options. Plus it makes your tech last a bit longer as far as health (vid cards arent cheap now a days xS)
@@elijones7926 well in terms of graphics consumption mmm... I don't know whether to say that it's not demanding because I have an 8gb 2060s and I can barely put the game in medium shadows with 288 particle rendering blocks at 100% and lights at 20 and my graphics can barely maintain 60fps and that is missing 3 more graphic scaling, and in maximum graphics it barely reaches 20fps and in 1080p😅
On me and my friends multiplayer server there is a surface deposit of quartz half a km from our house that is 4 to 5 blocks high and has both gold and silver. I think it may have happened bc the game tried to spawn 2 surface deposits in the same area.
Yeah I think when they're more than 3 blocks tall, it's two deposits in one! That's a great find, though!
I definitely prefer the dark purply/black colour of black bronze, not as big on bismuth bronze's more greenish colour but it does save on copper
I have to agree with you on most of that. I just don't worry much about copper because I can throw stones in almost any direction and find copper there.
Oh, yeah. Black bronze is gorgeous, but it's just SO EXPENSIVE! If gold and silver were like, twice as common/easy to acquire, I'd probably favor black bronze lanterns and such, too. But molybdochalkos is the perfect blend of that nice black color AND it's relatively cheap... as long as you can find lead!
Ironically in TFC silver is the harder component to find, though gold deposits generally only occur deep down you find nuggets indicating them all over on the surface, i think I like how VS does it better but I'm still unimpressed by the size of the upper level deposits, I'm assuming the deeper deposits are bigger and wider? Most ore deposits in TFC just keep going and going its awesome, makes it very rewarding to find them with the pro pick vs caving in vanilla block game.
@@ham8426 Not all ore deposits are necessarily bigger when you go deeper. However, the ores you get from those deposits generally trend upwards in quality, offering more nuggets per chunk that you crush with a hammer.
Another great episode, of course... ;) Also, nice to see the shout-out to Hypi... She's the reason I even got into VS, since I was one of the winners of her game key contest she ran awhile back... Would be fun to see the two of you do some collabs in your Guide series! (Or maybe another series, if this isn't the best site for such a thing...)
:) Thank you! That's a great way to get introduced to the game! I may do a small collab with someone at some point so that I can cover the built-in multiplayer features and such!
@@Kurazarrh OOH! OOH! PICK ME!!! ;) j/k... Well, whoever you showcase the multiplayer features with, I'm sure it'll be a good one to watch!
Heya, just now saw your comment! Thank you and I have enjoyed hearing about your VS adventures and coming on the server was fun!
and btw, @Kurazarrh, I would be interested in a collab if it ever came up!
@@HypnotiqueAKAHypi I'll keep you in mind for any future collab projects! :)
You're the fastest subscribe I've done so far btw really enjoy your videos
Aww, thank you! :D
I forgot to mention, but a few videos ago you mentioned about shooting the bow while holding the shield, that is actually possible, I had to look it up out of curiosity. Supposedly it even helped with aiming because the shield would stabilize the arrow.
Interesting! I would have thought it would be too heavy unless using a lighter shield like a buckler.
I enjoy your videos, just as much as Hypi's. So 'matter of fact' with those camouflaged wolves...I'm envious...and thank you for such a straightforward explanation on how to use the pro-pick.
Hey, thanks for the comment! Glad you found the prospecting information useful! :)
was binge watching this series while learning and playing myself, on this video, I finaly found damn tin, sure helps!
Hey, that's awesome! Congrats!
I always learn something new from your videos!
Awesome, that's great to hear! :)
Yay! Finally!!! 🎉
My huperfixation has brought me to your channel approx. 3 days ago, I have watched every last Vintage tale video you have uploaded in preparation for buying the game for myself.
🤓
I'm so excited to apply what I've learned from your guide while simultaneously hording like the videogame grouse I am! 😆
That's great to hear! I wish you many excellent hours of adventuring and survival in Vintage Story! :)
Finally got some iron tools! Got lucky and found a rich deposit of iron an andosite. This is actually a first for me never found iron in my 1 16.5 game even after 100 hours xS. Next up METEORIC IRON!! XD gonna watch your steel vid again to help me plan to build the big furnace. Keep being awesome m8y.
Oh wow, 100 hours and no iron? That's dedication! I hope the steelmaking videos are helpful!
Yea 1.16.5 was my first play of vintage story. Trying to just figure stuph out. I take my time on things alot. But thats how i figure out "inbetween things" like the watering can quelching and other stuph too. Some you've already touched upon. One of is stretching out charcoal even more by using just one to get up to temp, then when its going down just add a peat/log, instead of another coal. Even though you're not going back up to full temp, it still keeps it hot enough to let the higher temp requirement finish. Although, in retrospect, this feels a little cheaty to me, so i dont do it. I'll just throw another piece of charcoal on as i'd rather use it than my warm up materials.
@@elijones7926 I'm surprised the update corrupted your world. Did you run the /fixmappings command after the update? I think it's really annoying that the game doesn't always do it for you automatically.
Or if you were installing one of the prereleases, sometimes those cause problems, which is why I stay away from those!
@@Kurazarrhit didnt corrupt my world ya silly lol i think you responded to the wrong person xP
I love your series and how you explain it all so even I get it.
:) Thank you! Glad you're enjoying it!
That and having a voice that could rival even morgan freeman helps eh? lol
I'm surprised you're not grabbing enough for a silver plate, to upgrade your lantern...but yeah, it's reaaaally handy to your base so no rush, I suppose. LUCKY YOU! finding such a high concentration....I mined out an entire quartz vein [branchmined it] and still didn't have enough for a single plate.
That can certainly happen! Each vein may or may not have silver and\or gold, and sometimes they're chock-full of it, and other times there are just a few nuggets. Just how it goes sometimes!
@@Kurazarrh that's how it goes, and how it went. so....just been smushing most of the extra quartz, I mean, I'll need it for the refractory bricks, and glass making so no harm there...[still gotta figure out the steel production...
How do you do the special cube nodes on the map that detail what materials are in a chunk? I only know how to do the vanilla, basic markers
That's a mod that automatically marks it for you called Prospector Info. Highly recommend!
AND how!
Super reccomend Prospector Info. Just as much as Carry On!
Thank you for your videos. You are a joy to watch. I appreciate you. Currently learning to play this game. Struggling with getting food, but I will persist, especially with your guide. Namaskaram.
Hey that's great! I'm glad the Guide is helping your adventure! :)
I had no idea that you could calculate the y level for ores like that. I'm definitely going to be doing some time saving with that!
Oh yeah, it's super handy! I just wish the info for doing that math was in the handbook and not just on the wiki. Then again, it's a little immersion-breaking to have that info in-game, so I can see why it's not included.
I know I'm super late but you can see those values in your assets directory. Go to assets/survival/worldgen/deposits for a whole bunch of useful info.
How ironic, one of hypi's videos had one of yours in the list of videos youtibe reccommend we d at the end. Thats how I got here.
Awesome! I really enjoy Hypi's videos, too!
You're right! After steel, meteoric iron, and iron, it's fourth place! (and fifth and sixth)
Lol! Off to comment jail with you! ;P
Could you do a tutorial about how to prospect for different minerals? Like if you need to find zinc for example, and there's none nearby, are there any rules for which chunks it will spawn in so you can play hot and cold with prospecting or is it random? In particular I have a huge issue finding lead in my world, wherever I prospect it's just a ton of copper and quartz and tiny amounts or traces of other stuff, but no lead in sight. Any tips or do I just need to wander the world till I stumble on some lead?
Nvm you addressed this exact thing in the video
Haha not gonna lie, you had me in the first half! But unfortunately yeah, the only rule about ore spawning is that it must be in a rock stratum that can have that ore. Like, you won't ever find lead in chunks that have granite as the top rock stratum because lead only spawns in certain (most but not all) sedimentary rock, and sedimentary rock never spawns below an igneous rock type, except sometimes basalt.
@@Kurazarrh Damn, looks like I'm just getting unlucky with the heat map. The base is in a bauxite, sandstone, conglomerate and granite area. Lead's able to spawn in at least sandstone and conglomerate, not sure about the other 2 but I don't think it can. Looks like I just need to go out and look for it further away
And yeah I commented when I heard you were gonna make bronze and within 5 minutes you said you were gonna show us how to look for ore lol
@@justjoe5373 Yeah there are plenty of times where the stone is right but the ore just doesn't show up. That's not uncommon, so you'll definitely have to explore! It really helps if you can get some basic armor and run around some caves. Finding a translocator or two can really open up the map and your options.
@@justjoe5373dig LOW. i've been finding ALOT of copper deposits as well as tin. Not so much lead, but finding iron in a reeeaaaaallly big cave system was a stroke of luck. But dig loooooow lol. Find all sorts of goodies.
One thing to know about lead in particular (and any other ore that only spawns in sedimentary layers, like borax) - because of how the propick interprets the results and gives you the descriptor, even "poor" can be worth mining for there since the ore can only show up in the very top most layers of the whole chunk.
Do you think you'll be playing other games popular or not?
(Examples: cyberpunk, life is strange, and other popular titles)
#20kuestions
Thanks for your question submission! It's been added to the list!
Which age is more comfy?
Iron or steel?
#20kuestions
Thanks for your question submission! It's been added to the list!
@k3kr What do you mean by comfy?
@@tehNashty life becomes easier
@@k3kr Got it, thanks!
I have old timers (not Alzheimers) and things confuse me at times. :/
So funny how just holding the tongs grant heat protection in the other hand 😂 How does it look from third person
Ha, you know, I haven't looked at it in 3rd person... But I'm willing to bet it's the character holding tongs in one hand and a hot ingot in the other! XD
The most chillest vintage story player
:D Most of the time, at least--when I'm not finding 3 translocators all in a row!
i'm curious about how i can change the world temperature from Warm to Temperate in an already existing world.
i have already looked around but nothing seems to change with the commands i have looked at, i feel that there already should be some snow when November starts, but i don't know how seasons are supposed to work.
Thanks for the videos to.
Glad you're enjoying them! Unfortunately, there is no command to change the temperature banding of your world after the world has been created. The temperature (and sunlight) bands are determined based on a latitudinal value measured from the world's "equator," which is coordinate-based and locked in on world generation.
@@Kurazarrh oh ok, i see, it does make sence now when you mention it.
Thanks
@@0michelleki020you could always move a bit further north if you would like snowfall for more of the year. After experiencing a winter freeze that lasted roughly from November to April, I personally wouldn't recommend it though. It can put some serious limitations on your ability to make progress for almost half the year.
Hey Kuz, Another brilliant video. I was wondering would you find it useful if like the other block game vintage story also had some flight mechanics? I was also wondering would it not be more fun to have the ability to build trans-locators instead of finding them? I want to know what is your opinion on these two topics. #20kuestions. PS : I love this series!! Hope I am not in the comment jail :P
Hey there! Glad you liked the video! The questions you just asked for the #20kuestions segment were actually just answered in episode 14. If you missed the episode, go check it out! :)
Edit: added the correct episode number!
Maximum ration for the Tin-Bronze is: 11 Copper - 1 Tin
That sounds correct. I haven't rewatched this, but I'm pretty sure the way I explained it was in the context of ensuring that you make enough tin bronze to bring it to a multiple of 100. In this case, the minimum you'd need to be able to minimize your tin usage (since it's rarer than copper) is 600 units, or 6 ingots.
Would you consider trying out a de-essing/sibilance reduction filter? You have good audio otherwise but I find those high pitched hissing sounds distracting and hard to listen to. I might also suggest trying loudness equalization so that they don't drown out nearby words. These videos are so high effort and relaxing that it's a shame for such a small problem to impact the experience.
There isn't much I can do with that without muffling the rest of the audio. It has to do with how my teeth are organized, which leads to occasional whistling. If there is an automatic filter out there for Shotcut that will analyze the audio and filter it out without messing up the rest of the audio, I've not come across it.
I have not experienced any audio issues at all, but then I have old ears that have experienced too many loud noises.
My wife hears like a bat and is constantly telling me to turn things down. I'll ask her if she has experienced this when I get home.
@@Kurazarrh I completely understand and appreciate the effort regardless! I have an audio processing disorder, so this sort of thing gets to me more than most people. I searched up an equalizer extension for firefox to reduce audio starting at 2kHz and it has almost completely eliminated the discomfort without a huge impact on the quality.
@@lazula A 2kHz low-pass filter? Hmm... I could try something like that. I didn't think of that; I was looking around for filters that could do that automatically, but I guess that could actually work. Thanks for the insight; I'll give that a whirl in upcoming episodes (I record ahead, so it won't be for a couple more weeks) and see how it sounds!
@@Kurazarrh You might need to fiddle with the exact frequency a bit, that's just what I found personally convenient. The extension is pretty rough in how you configure it, only supporting pure logarithms, but you would have more freedom in something like Audacity which I tried out beforehand. I don't think it's exactly a low-pass filter with a rolloff by octave (I tried that but it sounded a bit off) but just an EQ curve that drops off to a flat volume reduction around that frequency.
nice videos =D
:) Thank you!!
How do you light all of those torches in inventory? is there any way to light them up faster since only way I know is place on ground and light up one by one?
You can also light torches in a fire pit. They only take a second to light once they heat up to 300C. If you're not using the Better Firepit mod, you can pull the torches out when the stack hits about 290C and just add them one at a time so they go really quickly.
How do you get the chunk overlay on your map from the ProPick? I have all the same mods as you but don't seem to have the overlay when I equip my pick
You might have accidentally changed a setting for ProspectorInfo (I've done it before). You can set it to always show, never show, or only show with propick in hand. I'm not at my computer at the moment, so I can't provide the hotkeys or anything, but I think it should be in the game keyboard settings.
@@Kurazarrh Ah yes that was it. Thanks!
diggy diggy diggy
Twiki, is that you???
XD
4:51 how did you know that ? i didn see any wildlift stats show up ? or is it a separate mod that reads the game files and gives a count of all entities in any chunk ? whats the name of the mod?
Lol... I was exaggerating. But there have been as many as 6 bears in that path I drew on the map! Which, when you're pooping your pants running into bears constantly, sure feels like 428 bears!
Hey Bud, im new to this game and i was wondering about the radius of the prospecting pick. I know you set it to 8 blocks, and i know that means in a circle around you. But does it also mean above and below you?? So when you prospect does it just show things within 8 blocks in all directions, or does it do from the bottom of the world to the top of the world??
Yep, you've got it--it's not technically a circle, it's a sphere centered on the block that you break with the prospecting pick. That's why you can use it to play the "warmer/cooler" game with ores whether they're at the same altitude as you, or higher or lower.
@@Kurazarrh Aaahhhh, so i have been thinking of this all wrong, LOL. Welp, guess i have alot of ground to go back over again, LOL. Cheers for the response tho bud, i know this is a fairly old vid, but im going through the series as we speak, trying to learn all i can.
@@cabbageplays6710 :D I'm just glad to be able to help! Hope you enjoy the series!
Can you gather whole chunks of silver block or quartz, any ore really, like you can with entire blocks of stone? If yes is it used for anything?
You can certainly relieve ores in the same way you can with stone--and you can chisel those blocks, too. They don't have any other functional uses, though.
could you do a video covering the mod/addons you have?
I've been (and will be) covering the mods as we get to use them. Several of them are tech-gated behind higher-tier materials that we don't have yet, so I can't cover some of them until we get access to iron and/or steel. But not to worry, I WILL be covering each mod, just not necessarily in one episode dedicated to just mods! :)
Do the mobs have a spawn rule dealing with light like in "the other block game"?
They do; most mobs can't spawn where there is player-placed light greater than 7. This includes animals. Rifts follow the spawning rules, but when they in turn spawn drifters, those drifters can spawn in higher light levels!
So if I find high copper (22%) is that enough to then start doing vertical tunnels? How deep do you suggest digging the tunnels?
Absolutely, that's a ton of copper. It can spawn at pretty much any depth, so it's worth going down pretty much to the mantle (though it's you go down to like y=5 and don't pick up anything on the propick, then there's no need to dig deeper!).
@@Kurazarrh thanks so much!
@@Kurazarrh thanks so much! I couldn't get any reading on my node search and was about to give up until you said it was a lot of copper! Went deeper ... hit medium copper..then large and finally huge! Then hit it! Gotta admit this is a lot of fun! Also found large amounts of quarts, galena, borax and olvire or however it's spelled!
@@venous-gaming55 Hey, that's awesome! Glad to help shed some light on the topic for you! :)
#20Kuestions How much delay is there for you between recording an episode and uploading the episode. Because some people do batch recordings and upload those over time, I was wondering if you do the same or not.
Thanks for your question submission! It's been added to the list!
I have a question: how can you see chunks on the map? Is it a mod or is there a command somewhere?
That's from the Prospector Info mod. I think it defaults to only displaying the overlay when you're holding a prospecting pick, but there are other options.
@@Kurazarrh thank you for the answer. Actually I'm playing vanilla and I'm not considering to install any mod nevertheless I'd like to do the best with what I have.
@@roccosfondo8748 Understandable; playing your first game entirely in vanilla is a great way to get a feel for the developer's intentions for the game.
That being said, if you do want to make life a bit easier this way, most mods that don't add new blocks to the game can be added and removed whenever you want, so you're not locked into a "modded" experience by installing a mod.
Hmmm.... UA-cam seems to have deleted my comments on this video twice now. I wonder why? Let's see if this one will be still here.
Huh, that's weird. I see this comment! :)
@@Kurazarrh Yeah, strange indeed. It happened in the past too on various channels. I don't always check, because the content creator might just not have answered, which is fine. But you tend to answer to all comments, so I double checked.
i have a question, what is better, 9 or 12 days per month?
With 12 you have more time to prepare for winter, but the winter will last a lot longer too. So it's a trade off, I think normal 9 days are better because you get less of the winter and if you start farming early you're gonna have a ton of food
I run 20 personally. It makes everything a little harder, but i enjoy long play. Also slow down time with console. /time speed 35 (default is 60).
Edit. I dont run default numbers though. I put hunger rate at 75 (because of day and months length. But left crop growing normal. Also put food spoiling at 75 for again not using default numbers.
Personally, I prefer 12 and might enjoy even longer months, but I left it at 9 for the series since this is meant to be very close to vanilla settings. I like the challenge and worry of "do I have enough food for winter?" With 9-day months, even a modest garden setup will let you sail through your first winter.
I have started games with 30...but only until winter. 🙄😳🤐
@@tehNashty awww see thats where the real fun begins xD. gotta stock that food!!
How do you show the chunks on your map?
That's from the Prospector Info mod. 100% recommend it for prospecting!
@@Kurazarrh Thanks for the answer! Are mods difficult to sort out with VS? I've not done any yet
@@TheJimmyJLC No, the mods are pretty easy--do an Internet search for "vintage story mods" and you should see a mods site for Vintage Story at the official URL. If you need guidance on adding mods, the official wiki has information, or you can refer to episode 0 of this series! ;)
@@Kurazarrh Thanks for the info! Subbed! :)
First!
Dang, this wait seemed longer than usual...
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And it didn't last long enough. /sigh
No difference in wait times, these release on Mondays and Fridays at morning o'clock! ;)
And yeah, time flies when you're having fun! :S
@@Kurazarrh dont it??!! Playing my game i look at the time its 10 am. Look back again its 8:30 pm!! Im like....WhUt JuSt hApPeN??
@@Kurazarrh Yer right, yer right, I know yer right...
But it SEEMED longer.
Hay, now you can do the Resonance Archive!!!!!
Anyways, thanks for getting this out! Can hardly wait for the next!
I really hope you are enjoying this as much as we are...
Have a great night!
#20kuestions since theres a chance ill have to make a new world in 1.19 anyways. When can we expect it to come out so i can wait till then to start playing
Thanks for your question submission! It's been added to the list!
This might be what makes me quite the game. Mining is absolutely terrible
I actually enjoy mining and even quarrying, though mining is more fun. Kinda gives a little bit of that slot machine high when you strike it rich!
@@Kurazarrh ok ok I totally agree with you once I finally found my first copper deposits last night!
Breaking copper pick axes while searching is a complete pain when having to pan for 20 more nuggets to replace it lol.
Now thst I have a copper supply I am truly enjoying it!