2013 Scion FR-S Street Test Review
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- The affordable driver's car has returned and AutoGuide is back behind the wheel for a more thorough test. Scion's FR-S might just be the best performance bargain around.
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Back behind the wheel after our first drive several months back in Japan and we're learning more about the Scion FR-S.
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I love this car, perfect for drivers that loves to track,, if your just a common driver you can stick with those straight muscle cars
This is honestly one of the coolest looking cars in the world. I want to see what tuners will do for the performance.
I am really liking that color
I'm 6'3 and I drove one last week. I don't think I can get it in a stick unfortunately, even though the steering wheel couldn't be much smaller. I drove an auto and honestly, it's not bad at all. I prefer stick shift to be honest, but the auto I drove on a test drive provided more than enough excitement for me. The dealer was so cool and let me really push the car as much as I would any car I owned on the street.
just strap on a turbo and shut up for those who complain about power.
This looks really cool.
Next car right here.
You got it?
I never gave this car a second thought when I first heard about it. But the more I hear and see, the more I want this car.
number reason why people like this car it is rear wheel drive baby
Seeing that audio system is enough to make someone who wants to buy this car change their mind real fast..
lol. Nice math. 3:54
Whered that other 4% go?
lol
i love coming into work everyday looking at our showroom fr-s and also driving them.
The audio system is "ghetto" seriously wtf man.
Gonna test drive one when my local dealer gets some in. For those hating on the lack of turbo. There is tons of aftermarket turbo support for scions non sport models so I'm sure we'll see kits available soon. Which I like keeps insurance rates down
As long as I can slap a turbo on it :)
ive been wanting one of these since they were first announced. just a dream at the moment.
lol.. they did the Mustang GT "sound tube" trick. I thought it was a pretty cheesy idea until I got my 5.0 GT. It's nice to be able to hear your engine in a modern car with all that sound insulation.
I don't know what people are complaining about. Its a cool looking car with great handling, a simple practical interior, 6 speed manual and a low price. "oh no it doesn't have power!" Calm down ok. There'll be a cheap turbo kit out for it in no time. It sure beats the hell out of the Miata (especially looks wise) and if its good enough for Chris Harris, its sure as hell good enough for me.
I can't wait til the winter reviews roll in.
I had an S2000. Then I had an '07 Si-dan. Now, an FR-S, but need performance goodies now. You are pleased to provide the performance goodies now. And turbo kit. And...large, completely ridiculous wing. Carbon fiber..
The FR-S is a hell of a good car. I own one since it came out and its been fun like crazy. People complaining about the 200hp. Well its light and its quick. 6speed. Handling is amazing, sticks to corners like glue, I live in a place were its all curves and mountain area (Puerto Rico) and this car just flys threw the curves. Now people comparing the Genesis to this, well for those of you that don't know, they compared the FR-S and Genesis side by side, and on a circuit race the FR-S lost by only
You can get it with a flappy paddle slush box too, for those of us who put in serious miles at 10 mph on freeways but still want some ability to control gears on the weekends. Very nice.
No clue why people are hating on the sound system.. it's Pioneer, they make some high end gear. I think it looks pretty cool
Just got this car! Feels great on the road.
I said the same thing. This is one of the better reviews thought for the frs
They did a really good job with the styling on this car. Looks fantastic.
Right On Brother! One reason I bought this car is the fact that the interior and stereo IS cheesy! Controls are junk too. BUT, This car is a BLAST to drive and I already have a couple of nice sleds in the garage. GO FOR THE SPEED MANUAL PEOPLE :)
I had a Cobalt SS as well and they're great, but this id balanced, RWD, and built for the experience. I'm sure the Cobalt was/is a faster car, but the fun factor is priceless...I'm pretty excited to test drive one.
most definitly it will be tuner friendly. greddy is developing a turbo kit for the frs but it will likely be interchangable due to having the same engine. they also have suspension upgrades available. other tuning companies are also developing tuning products.
It's all about getting that go-kart feeling. Something I'm sure a Lotus owner understands well. This car is fun as hell to drive.
Yeah, and good luck finding one for that. I test drove one that was $25,300 (white paint was the only option) and I felt lucky to find one that cheap. A lot of dealers are finding a way to mark these up above 28k without adding much (and basically violating Scion's no-haggle pricing policy). I liked the car but I didn't buy it. It handles very well and its surprisingly comfortable but there is zero body roll and with the linear power band there is no sensation of speed. Its almost too good.
Well made video and good narration from the host. Why did the camera go out of focus on the pan of the engine? Couldn't you edit that glitch out?
best review of frs, we actually get info on how it drives in the real world
Seen and sat in the black version at the auto show, bucket seats are comfy and i love the way it sits. thow a little money into the exterior and interior and you have yourself a car thats hard to complain about i really might get this
I know they are designed for different purposes, the Z is like a japanese muscle car and the BRZ/FRS is like a drivers/tuner car. I was simply comparing what you get for the price and not strictly just performance. A used 2008 350Z can be had around 20k with less than 20,000 miles with fully loaded options like leather seats and navigation if you fancy that crap and 300 horsepower to play with and a huge aftermarket following since it's been around longer.
The weight distribution is actually 53% front and *47%* rear.
@BlueBalls3690, it's actually a mistake they made, the balance ratio is in fact 53% to 47% with the 53% bring in the front. :)
I test drove this car today, fell in love! No lie.
Don't knock Hyundai too much, they have gotten there shit together, and are doing a pretty damn good job. The FR-S/GT86/BRZ do look like some damn fun cars on the track, of course the Genesis looks like a hell of a lot of fun on the track too. That being said these cars really are made for the track. Hyundai does not have much of a racing heritage, but they did dominate scca rally in the 2000's with a awd custom tiburon (like 7 championships).
Cheers!
I want this car. Drove it, loved it. Used to drive a V8 mustang and I can say I hated its horrific fuel consumption.
For those saying FRS is not a sports car, I say try drifting with your FWD car.
last weekend I took my toyota car to do oil and was hoping to see the FR-S in the lot, but it was nowhere to be found. I talked to the seller guy, he said this car is going on sale fast. So to get one, you have pre-order it. He said that the next one is coming but already has people waiting for it so you won't be able to see it parking on the lot.
from wikipedia about FA20 engine
A version with direct fuel injection and twin-scroll turbocharger has been introduced in 2012 to the Japanese market for the Legacy GT DIT.
Bore: 86 mm
Stroke: 86 mm
Displacement: 1,998 cc
Compression Ratio: 10.6:1
Power: 300 PS (221 kW; 296 hp) at 5,600 RPM
Torque: 40.8 kg·m (400 N·m; 295 lb·ft) at 2,000-4,800 RPM
if they put that motor in this thing it will be a beast
Yes the parts are interchangeable. I work at a parts dept. for Toyota and the engine part numbers are all subaru part numbers.
Saw one of these get spanked by a 2012 5.0 mustang this morning. SLAUGHTERED!!! the frs was reving high and the 5.0 was reving low (almost not even trying)
It's really too bad how expensive the Lotus is over here compared to the UK. Such an awesome little powerhouse and sexy to boot.
MotorTrend recently did a big comparison involving both the Scion FR-S (and the Subaru BRZ) and the Hyundai Genesis. They also compared them against the Mazda Miata, VW Golf, and Ford Mustang V6.
The Genesis came dead last, and the FR-S was 2nd best; the Subaru was number 1.
You should go for the FR-S!
I love this car, both the interior and the exterior look great!
Not just my opinion, Ive never driven one. In every single video Ive watched about this car, the driver talks about how joyful it is to drive. It almost makes me think that theyve been paid to say it -_- hmm... With that, it may be somewhat slow for a modern sports car, but im sure it can be settled for on public roads. Plus its not just that it slides easily. Its impeccably balanced, lightweight, and responsive.
The FR-S and it's two sibling cars are sweet for the cash and they are going to turn into tuner favorites. Keep an eye out for the Hyundai Veloster Turbo it will have 200+ HP and weigh less, but it's a hot hatch that will give the FR-S a run for the money.
In terms of turbo kits, the only thing you might have to worry about is being limited by that 12.5/1 compression ratio!
yeah it is better on the brz, but the thing about this model is, its suppose to be stripped down. The vp of scion even said it purposely stripped down because the brand, scion, is made for ppl who want to upgrade the car.
That's pretty much applies to all of the scion brand.
It might, but the space looks a bit tight. A bigger concern is the direct injection engine. There is no way yet to reprogram the stock ECU and there is not a lot of options for aftermarket standalone that can do direct injection.
That being said this is probably the best car I've driven handling wise. I would not want a turbo on this car because it would just ruin the driving experience.
I NEED TO BUY THIS CAR NOW
First of all, smaller engines do not always get better gas mileage. In fact, a larger engine loping along at a lower RPM will often get better mileage than a smaller one that has to work twice as hard to move the car. Secondly, there is a Veloster Turbo coming out within the next couple of months. It will have about 200hp and is supposed to get 36-38mpg highway. It will be front-wheel drive, however. The RWD layout of the FR-S puts it in a different league.
I really like the black frs in the background with those sickk rims @6:00
its for ppl who trick out their cars and for younger kids. I dont see too many old people driving tcs. Basically its two things you get out of this, affordability and customization. Compared to the limited brz (which i really like as well), its just a cheaper alternative, thats all.
But in the end, the brz=frs. It's basically the same car just with minor differences here and there.
Korean cars are actually good now and Audi's top designer has worked for them the last couple of years.
That missing 4% of car weight belongs to the driver:)
Car should have 7 speed manual.
Good video production. Adam does a great job. Very professional. Like a pro.
I've always loved my Subaru and I would agree with what you're saying. Scion is still made by the legendary car manufacturer Toyota, and I'm quite surprised Fuji Heavy Industries and Toyota Industries came together to make a really great looking car. It'll be nice to hear driver reviews about both in the future.
You can get the same MPG with manual or even better, its just the way the EPA does it's tests. They assume the average consumer will be shifting at high revs and not using neutral to coast to a stop. If you shift at very low rpm, do long coasts in neutral, and skip gears by shifting from 1 - 3 - 5, which is pretty much like a 3 speed automatic that most economy cars have, you will get great MPG. I have a WRX and I get 26 MPG city doing this, EPA city rating is like 19 MPG.
Or bring it back with the scion badge glued on, we just want the car!
I’m still dancing to the into best
Unless you are full out drag racing, you won't need 200hp in a car that light. Some of us want this car to take corners and NOT do showy drifts in it, it is a pretty good track car when driving grip as well once you put decent rubber on it.
My reason for buying this car, its a 4 cylinder rwd car with no stupid flashy buttons like most modern cars and my opinion on why its low powered is because its more of a daily driven car plus scion is somewhat like honda's civic when it comes to add-ons and aftermarket parts
Bought one because I wanted a car that didn't have any buttons on the steering wheel.
This is why I love the Fr-S, it's all about the feeling, not just going as fast as you can and being an idiot.
yes the gt86 has that long strip on the top for the DLRs. very nice but the new 10 series frs come standard with gt86 headlights.
Toyota set up the gear ratios for the automatic a bit differently. It doesn't go as quickly as the manual does, but it sacrifices that for better mileage.
I have one and average over 30mpg, I turn on sport mode to have fun and leave it off on the highway going to work. It was really tight at frst but is more comfy now thats its broken in...
I work for Toyota, they own part of Subaru, and the engine cover has Toyota/Subaru on it, fenders also marked Subaru.
Why? It allows the unit to be replaced with a different one. It's a good feature from that perspective. You can't do that these days with all these other cars with integrated stereo systems.
Surprisingly it's not. However I'll say this, the car deserves much more power than it has. My friend owns one and let me borrow it for a few days, one of which was at a track, and the thing handles so nice. Just wish it had another 50-60 horses behind it.
You ended up with the VQ motor; you win !
actually driving a manual means you can shift faster and is usually more efficient but the newer cars keep it in a lower rpm level giving it a little better mpg
I have a 2009 Nissan370 Z touring edition with every option. Based on what I'm seeing and hearing, I have nothing to worry about, and certainly won't lose any sleep at night. Sure, cost is $14K more, but worth every penny, when compared to these toy cars....
your getting wrong info my friend, they are first doing 86, then after that they will regular produce these cars. 500 is to be part of the 86. you do get to test drive first, even if you pre order. you can get one..
Good review. Very thorough and unbiased.
I have a Limited BRZ, you're talking about an FRS, but I'm looking at that 86 and dreaming about driving it.
Well said, I agree with you. I don't think more power would be out of balance, but a heavy V8 does not belong in this car.
There is talk of a turbo model. Suburu is talking about offering a turbo WRX model and if Suburu uses it, Scion will adopt it. Sadly, its not 2Jz, but hey, can't remake that.
Get a 2013 mustang, i have one and the front seats are very spacious and the back seats has the most space in its class
that blue on the car looks sick.
the whole point of the car is balance. I wouldnt wanna do anything to mess it up by adding more power. The only thing i might consider is stiffening the rear suspension coz there is a lil bit of understeer in so speed corners. Thats the only thing
The passenger dash is not meant to be carbbon fiber,lol Its the symbol of Toyota in 1986 for the AE86 Corolla stamped a bunch of times to make a pattern.The front grill is made the same way.
This car has 12.5:1 compression and has to have premium gas without mods. Any kind of noticeable gains with a turbo will require bottom end engine work to lower the compression. This actually makes me happy because it means the people who do want to turbo it are going to do monster builds or nothing at all. If you could bolt on power to this thing my insurance premiums would go through the roof from all of the wannabe racers wrapping them around poles.
i work at Toyota and ive driven the FR-S a few different times and what you think the car is like is all on your personal preference but for an old school Toyota lover or a drifter this car is perfect. Yes the ZR1 and the GTR are faster but look at the price of them compared to the price of the FR-S huge differences just think of what you could do for a fraction of the cost
...it's an honest, informative car review. Its not and action movie, dude.
yes, same exact car... Extreme dimensions even sells the body kit and its for those 2 cars.. every dimension is the same.. but the Scion got better reviews believe it or not
It doesn't matter what car your talking about there are always people arguing about manual and autos, for example a golf GTi is great with it DSG but people still prefer traditional manual.
this car looks so nice
no, its actually the new AE86, it even has a badge on the front fender that says "86"
What I just said to you went over your head. I'm talking about a period in time when cars like this were known as Sport Economy cars and how that label turned to Sport Compact and now "Sports Car" to market and sell the car better because the term "Economy car" doesn't sell as well as "Sport Car" when it comes to moving these off the show room floor. Scion is an economy car division of Toyota. They were built to make inexpensive economy cars. The BRZ is no different.
It looks like the Supra and the Tc had a child...I love it.
The interior on a genesis looks nicer. I'm glad Scion put the money in the parts of the car I care about though.
The ae86 was 'slow' compared to a lot of other cars, but look how badass it turned out
HOLY SHIT....they gave it the boxer rumble with the headers...NICE
2013 Veloster turbo is coming this summer ( 201 HP ) turbo 1.6 liter... 38 mpg highway
Yeah man. This is a car you want to take out for a drift. It was inspired by the '86 Corolla, a car notorious for its handling while drifting. I am waiting two more years until I am 21 to purchase this car...I don't want insurance eating me alive lol
Only problem with the BRZ I think is the price point. Because subaru can charge over MSRP if they want to. Where as Scion's "Pure" price thing pretty much says you get the car at MSRP and can't be charged all that goofy inflation.
I do agree that the BRZ looks better though.
the FT86 was the concept version of this car. 3 production versions of this car, the Scion FRS, Toyota GT86 and the Subaru BRZ. All made by in the same place by the same people and look nearly identicle
black manual and i also upgraded the dash board with satnav instead of the cd player