24:30 Court resumes 30:15 Jen McCabe cross continues 1:18:15 Jen McCabe re-direct 1:59:45 Jen McCabe re-cross 2:50:45 Court resumes 2:52:30 Kerry Roberts direct 5:16:43 Kerry Roberts direct continues 5:40:10 Laura Sullivan, friend of John O’Keefe 6:24:50 Laura Sullivan cross-examination 6:30:45 Marriella Sullivan, friend of John O’Keefe 6:50:45 Marriella Sullivan cross-examination R.I.P. John J O’Keefe
I hope there's justice for this poor man, closure for his family and nothing but smooth sailing for those horribly unfortunate children of multiple tragedies.
So very tragic. This shows her irrational, impulsive behaviour. She isolated him and when he was ‘allowed’ to be with his friends, she tried live bombing them with money. Controlling and emotionally abusive. I feel she’s projecting. She would make excuses and try to use money to ‘buy’ people’s favour and forgiveness. She feels everyone else will do the same to her. She’s paranoid, impulsive, lacks insight and that is a very dangerous combination. Sh doesn’t remember as she was so drunk but I truly feel she did hit him. Accidental maybe, I’ll give her that, but she was uncontrollably mad and didn’t think before as she was drunk.
This whole family needs to be locked up. This is just crazy. This Mcabbe women looks the most guilty. She argues and fights the stupidest of questions. It's clear she is hiding things. Can't wait for the body language guys to get this one.
OMG! The Smoking Gun. Karen did not take her shoes off before walking into John's house while frantic and panicking because she clearly knows something's wrong. 🙄🙄
@KTD1988 I didn't say anything about evidence! I just said, maybe she knew he wasn't coming home! It is weird Jen and Kerry did, probably thinking John was still alive! They had no idea what was going on!
This B. and her family deserve every bit of this backlash. I can't believe everything coming out of this case. This is no doubt a cover-up and a conspiracy. Never seen so much corruption.
As we see the trial progress, we know Karen admitted to murder at scene. All testimony of Jen supports that. We see no corruption whatsoever, but rather a near perfect police investigation.
@@danielearnshaw2221so far, all we see is massive corruption from Brain Albert and all the way to aunt Bev. Jenn has been caught in lie after lie. 3 days on the stand will be enough to make anyone so frazzled they forget their lies. I almost feel sorry for her. But, the cover up of the “friend’s” death is so obvious it’s ridiculous.
JMC saying the Officer asked her at the scene to go wake up the Alberts is WILD!! How did they not know it wasn’t a triple homicide and that there weren’t more dead bodies inside the house? They just send a civilian inside assuming it’s not a crime scene??
Troopers drove to talk to people not involved with the incident yet didn’t interview some people actually there till as last as this year…. Make total sense
@@BRoyal1908 Seems they all like to drink and definitely see no issue with drinking and driving, with some major selective memory!!!!! lol 🤦♀️🤷♀️🤦♀️
One of the most telling issues is, Jen NEVER goes to, John's body to help him. Who doesn't run to their friend who they "love"? She distanced herself as much as possible. Karen, even had to insist (according to Jen's testimony) that they go by 34 Fairview in the morning to look for him. She makes a point of saying, Karen saw him first and "knew where he was" when the other two ladies didn't see him. We know Jen saw the body after he was beat up and we know she knew he was left out in the yard. How? Because of the accusations she makes in her testimony, because of all the, "absolutely not!" answers, because of the dire need to talk with everyone and make certain they knew HER narrative, because as a former fifth grade teacher she RARELY uses a contraction, and because she says NEVER every other sentence. She's a case study in anti-social personality behaviors. Sadly, Karen thought she was calling a friend to help. Karen, should have brought, John's niece to look for him.
Interesting that Kerry described herself as a real talker today, using the exact words as Jen McCabe used yesterday when they were explaining why they were hanging out in the drive way of the investigtor who was on the case. They claim innocently talking to the wife while they dropped off a kid. They are rehearsed down to the exact description of why it took so long.
This is the single biggest thing for me (and there are a looot of big things). There is no way to explain that whatsoever. She doesn’t try to explain it like “I was worried he got in a fight with Karen and he went for a walk that’s why he never came inside, thought maybe he slipped and hit his head or something” even THAT is more believable. She doesn’t do any of that, she just says the data extraction is wrong and the computer is just making up the fact that she googled that at that time. Which is hilariously laughable.
I have NEVER seen a judge allow a witness to not only be "hostile", but argumentative, too! And, at what point is a witness "impeached" and the "Penalty under Perjury" come into play????????? 😂
it's counsel thhat is being argumentative with the witness.. Objection, counsel is harassing the witness ; or objection..asked and answered...should have been the DA's objection
Jen McCabe should at the very least have been FIRMLY admonished by the judge to answer ONLY what the attorney asked her. She tried every opportunity to seize control and tell “her” story.
Truly! The data is right there, but that’s wrong apparently. Same thing with police reports - countless reports just getting what she said wrong left and right 😂 it’s laughable.
All electronics… Google… GPS… All lying only She is telling the truth and remembers perfectly those things but can't remember anything else without complete documentation in front of her… This woman is an absolute joke
Yeeeep. She says when she gets cornered “my FRIEND had just died, I was in a state of SHOCK” oh that friend you care so much about that you never bothered to call or text anyone when you saw his car outside but he never came in? Never went out to look for him? Lmao. That’s because he did go inside where he was killed, her story makes no sense.
@@miltdtaHe actually did ask Jen that. He said something on the lines of so ur calling/texting your friend over and over and going to the door and he’s not answering…. He’s what 30 ft away? Farther than me and you… why don’t you go out and check on him? I can’t remember what she said…. Obviously a lie… l
Lally: “So there’s a garage?” “And how many garage doors are there?” “What color are the garage doors?” “Do the garage doors open?” “What, if anything, would be used to close the doors, if at all?”
It’s AMAZING to me that the only friends who went out in a blizzard to search for John were the women! Not one of those goombahs left their house. 🤦♀️
That’s not a true statement one of the McCabes went out , as did Kerry Robert’s both women went with Read looking for John o’keefe…I think she wanted someone with her to cushion the blow. She knew exactly where his body was. I guess she expected him to magically get up and go in the house after she hit him .
@dthappy12 Apparently, you didn't hear Kerry's testimony. Her husband said you're not going anywhere, and Kerry said, yes I am! She even told her husband to stay home, and he said he just went out and shoveled the snow in the driveway! So pay attention!
I just found out listening to Jen McCabe that the claim is that Karen's car was spotted outside at 12:27 AM but idles outside until 12:45 AM? So you have invited someone to your home, observe they have pulled up, see them sitting there for a full 15 minutes, and don't go outside to ask if anything is wrong? Then the car just disappears and you shrug your shoulders. If they are sitting there that long, I would assume maybe the couple is fighting, or maybe someone is sick or having a problem. VERY STRANGE.
I assume Karen will tell us why when she's on the stand, but she said in a media interview that she was waiting to see if she was welcome in the house before going in. So assuming John already went in, and Matt and Jen both looking out the door at different intervals but either not waving her in or going out to speak to her....or they were waiting for her to leave so they could ambush John in the basement. But then Jen's texts to them to say pull behind me etc would indicate that she was welcome. So much doesn't add up on both sides, it's truly a wild one to watch unfold
These are lies from Jen McCabe. Karen Read’s car did not idle outside for 25-30 minutes. The latest time Karen and John could have arrived was 12:23am, and it was likely a few minutes earlier than that, probably around 12:20am. Jen claimed the car was there until around 12:50am so she had an excuse for why she kept calling John’s phone. The truth is John came into the house around 12:20am, there was a fight almost immediately, and he was mortally injured by 12:30am. During the fight, John must have lost his phone and they couldn’t find it. That’s why they called 6 times in a row in a 15 minute period, they were trying to locate his phone.
@@IronEaglet-ru8zb Yes! They must make it fit the timeline to explain the multiple dials to John's phone. I hadn't thought of that. Although, she said "butt dials" so I guess they don't need coverage because they are all "mistakes" (eyeroll).
@@SuperzzDazzI could see possibly JO went in to guage the situation and decide if they were going to stay and KR was waiting in car on a text or call from him on what they were going to do as in leave or stay?
One of the worst examples of blantant lying I've witnessed. Genuine witness do not destroy evidence. Full stop. Deleting calls/texts/web searches screams consciousness of guilt.
Interesting that both Jen and Kerri both testify that they took their shoes off while Karen went right in to John’s house. This is so inconsequential. Not sure why they both thought this was important.
1:47:34 I love how Jen-Jen is trying to score brownie points with the jurors by constantly making eye contact when she responds. Ya know she is self-proclaimed “truthful & honest person”. She be selling that hard!!
At every opportunity clan Albert/McCabe mention the harassment they have been subject too, I expect they think this will paint them as victims to the jury, if I was on the jury, I would be thinking that there is much more to this than we are being told in court, and an awful lot of people already think they killed John O'Keefe. I think this could backfire spectacularly on them!
Here’s something that strikes me…Jen and her husband were both, by their own testimony, frequently looking out the windows and doors, the entire time Karen and John were out front. Now, think about the effort it would take for Karen to strike John with her vehicle. She allegedly hit him with the back of her vehicle, breaking her taillight. In order to do that, she would have had to turn her vehicle around in the middle of the road, maybe twice, in order to line it up with his body. Then, on snowy roads, pick up enough speed to hit him and kill him. How, I wonder, could all of that happen without Jen or her husband seeing that?!
Booooohooooo Jenn McCabe you're a victim 😂 when you decide to be the spokesperson for everyone there may be some backlash. If it looks like a liar and it sounds like a liar
My second time watching testimonies and thinking as if I was a juror hearing all of this!!😮 I’m very bothered by the testimony about the recommendation to get a timeline together for “the trial”. Why wasn’t Karen included in all of the group discussions about what could have happened to John? It’s very apparent (by this testimony) that everyone was already planning for Karen to be going to trial?
Exactly!!! Judge Vader allowed complete hearsay about the timeline being created. But, she sustained nearly every objection from the prosecution no matter how reasonable the question was. I don’t know why I am still surprised by her obvious bias.
It’s always funny to me how the witness is so argumentative with the defense and can’t remember anything but when the prosecution starts it’s all sugar and spice and rainbows and roses.
And did your husband brush his teeth that morning, and if so, what brand of toothpaste was on hand,… and could you describe the colour & texture for me 🙃
@@mooshie504 Well that's a load of BS if I've ever heard it. We have ALL known couples who have been through a similar scenario as far as her behaviour on vacation yet I bet none of them went on to kill their BF because of it. This proves nothing!
Jen said in her testimony when Carrie drove to the Lank’s house, she sat in the car while Carrie went in to speak with Detective Lank’s wife. But Carrie in her testimony said Detective Lank’s wife came out to the car and sat in the back. Those are conflicting stories, would you not say?
I love how she keeps asking for records, yet she doesn’t even believe the records 🙄 they show her call logs and she still claims her memory is better than the evidence….
Let's see you recall every single nuance during an unexpected dead body of a friend, running a home, raising kids trying to keep some semblance of normalcy. Try and recount your every single call, deletion, butt dial without the help of a print out.
I have no idea what could have happened there that night / morning, they all seemed calm and nice to each other on the videos. But, I would never be able to convict Ms Read based on the information presented in this trial.
@@kingduran007 So i guess karen was the one who sneaked into Jens home , took jens mobile phone at 2.47 am in the morning and searched Hos long to die in the cold. Ok LOL
jen pointed out the directions to 34 fairview and literally said she told the driver "the house was right there at the end the house with the line of trees .. of course that's where he was found .. she directed them to look at the line of trees ..obviously she wasn't going to point john out ..she waited for karen to see him first
Why are prosecutors making a big deal about Karen not taking her shoes off? Whos first thought in a panic to find their loved one would be "oh yea let me take my shoes off" 🤦♀️
@Nocomment950 well this isn't a way to do it. My last thought when I'm frantically searching for my loved one would be "oh let me kick my shoes off real quick and have to put them back on to hurry and leave to find him". Seriously....this looks ridiculous
You bet Wally, Jen at least 3-4 times Her husband twice , the friend Julie. Where was the time to run someone over? John wasn't in that Lexus, he was being beat to death between the Waterfall and that house.
No she doesn’t recall any of the phone conversations when asked in cross examination. But if asked by Prosecution in a more favorable light to her then her memory is markedly better.
Why didn’t either attorney ask her how a Google search about dying in the cold could be on her phone if she didn’t do it ?? She says she didn’t do it well how did it get there? It showed up on her forensic extraction?
This is just so crazy!! Where are the men looking for John?? They by now all know he’s missing. Carrie was in bed with her husband when Karen called and Karen said, John’s dead!”Her husband didn’t leap out of bed to find him??? They send their wives out for an alibi and to frame Karen.
It was a blizzard. Did you not hear Kerry describe how her car spun in 360s on the Hwy so they began using back roads. Kerry's husband told her she was not going out in it but she did anyway.
Damnnnn....2:27AM "HOS LONG TO DIE IN THE COLD!!" she was at home in bed then, not with KAREN! She knew when she left her sister's house that night/early AM, that John was laying out there in the snow in their yard dying and went home anyways and didn't call an ambulance!!!! That is damning evidence! So did she just not want to deal with it cause she was drunk, or did something happen in that house!! That is REASONABLE DOUBT ABSOLUTELY!! Also, if you google german shepherd bite wounds/attack wounds, it's pretty crazy how much the wounds on John's arm look like German shepherd teeth marks/teeth drags/scratches!!! The snow plow operator also stated that John was NOT out there when he went by! Karen may not be innocent, but there is reasonable doubt in this case and Karen should be exonerated/acquitted!
The bites on his arm DO not look like the search results from Google. I did it as well and they look nothing alike so I have no idea why you are saying this.
The point the common wealth it's trying to make about Karen not taking off her shoes is insane. Karen was frantically looking for John. That's why she didn't take off her shoes
Ah, finally, the 2:27 a.m. search is here. I just wish Yannetti would have added one more line during the Sullivan sisters cross to drive his point home that there have been people in this case like Julie Nagle who were present at 34 Fairview on that night and weren't interviewed for over a year since the incident and yet these sisters were interviewed within 10 days of John passing away.
I want to make something very clear: The individuals on these videos saying KR is guilty are acquaintances with those who covered up this crime. Because lets be real. You'd have to have the 🧠 the size of a peanut to believe she's guilty after the damning testimony from these unreliable witnesses.
Bull hockey I live in a different State never met anyone from Massachusetts. I just have critical thinking skills and it defies all Logic what you Turtle boy fans are saying. Lol😂
How come the Judge is allowing petty, gossipy testimony? They're attempting to make, Karen look bad. They're making themselves look bad & are making John sound like a terrible boyfriend.
As a southern woman, I was trying to understand what the word “sowr” was. I eventually figured out she was actually saying “SAW.” As in I “sowr” (saw) a yellow butterfly.
The Aruba trip's humiliating incident was the last straw for John. He asked her to move out but she refused. She's a bunny boiler. That's why she's never been married and maybe never even been asked either.
@@2bcYT she didn’t live with him so how would that work? Lol! I’m fact, she wasn’t even supposed to stay there that night, but since John never came home she can’t leave his niece alone…
@@Marilynn-minoux It's in the children's statements -- his niece and nephew that Karen didn't want. That's not news but delivering it to the Jury will be a boom.
@@2bcYT the bunny was John, and the family of drunken snakes ensure he would never talk by leaving him to die in the snow after his unprovoked beating.
Curious - why would Jen want to kill John? They seemed to really like the guy. And even more curious- why do such a bad job of doing it and making a ridiculous cover story or frame up? Motive doesn’t register with me at all, even if all the crew has many shady things they’ve done.
Let's just pretend for a minute that KR is guilty. Idk how to reconcile that with all the things that don't add up during cross and the joke of an investigation.
If Karen did strike him, the police really messed this one up. Also, the Albert’s in an attempt to distance themselves, made huge missteps that make them look guilty.
Ok I’m from the UK, never heard of this case before or seen anything online about it. I’ve just caught up on it this week and wtf?! Whether she did it or didn’t do it, she surely won’t be convicted. And who is turtle boy?
I agree Karen Read will walk. Turtle Boy is a "personality" that conjured up media attention and outrage regarding this case and promotes support of Karen Read
@Michelle- dh5gs Turtle Boy if you look up his blog will tell you he simply started doing ordinary research into this case for his reporting purposes as he does all cases. He started finding more and more that didn’t add up. He has now been and is currently being harassed and retaliated against by the prosecution’s side and even been jailed for the rolling rally and other forms of expressing his free speech against what he believes to be a massive coverup and frame up of an innocent woman/ but don’t take it from us here. Listen to the trial from here on out and see if the prosecution is presenting a believable case.
OMG! Did I just witness the judge ALLOWING hearsay? She literally allowed Jennifer to basically say,”the friend of my friend said…” WTF am I watching? And why am I still surprised by Judge Vader AKA Judge auntie Bev allowing the hearsay because it benefits the prosecution, but sustaining EVERY objection from the prosecution to harm the defense? I hope she is disbarred and removed from the bench after the national coverage of the this case.
She also slept on the couch? Why, if she was staying over with John, would she not sleep in his bed where she usually sleeps? If she was not planning on staying, then why didn’t she just assume he stayed over, and go straight to 34 Fairview to pick him up?
The fact no one went outside to see if they left or were coming in or anything doesn’t raise a red flag for me. If they didn’t come in people most likely figured they changed their minds and went home. If that’s what happened. Trying not to be lead by the protests and just watching the trial the defense raised enough reasonable doubt as they should. In my opinion Karen accidentally hit him probably thought he’d get up when she didn’t hear from him she panicked because she knew something worse had happened. Unfortunately the state didn’t bring forth the concrete evidence I would’ve liked to have seen in order to convict Karen. I do not believe a group of friends, police, emergency workers and others agreed to a coverup and a plan to frame an innocent woman.
I agree. I believe they are covering up being involved in the investigation or getting information about the investigation, i.e., talking about it with one another. I've just started watching the case and have commented as I go along.
So they decided that Karin was guily because they got in an argument on vacation about what looks like a child? Murder over this? I dont see it! This whole situation blows.
No. The kids will be on the stand. It’s explaining what happened before hand and how they were of that night. Kids are not going to lie. They want truth and justice for their uncle. It will also lead into how they were behind closed doors. Something that only people behind closed doors know about and witness. Kaylee will also testify to that night and what Karen did and what she said. It’s a platform to go ahead with all of that.
Ya, the kids will tell us, that Karen and John fought a lot and were supposed to be on a break from each other. Just because John, tried to keep it cool out in public, with Karen. Doesnt mean, their relationship was great behind closed doors.. John was a cop for Pete's sake. So you better believe those kids.
24:30 Court resumes
30:15 Jen McCabe cross continues
1:18:15 Jen McCabe re-direct
1:59:45 Jen McCabe re-cross
2:50:45 Court resumes
2:52:30 Kerry Roberts direct
5:16:43 Kerry Roberts direct continues
5:40:10 Laura Sullivan, friend of John O’Keefe
6:24:50 Laura Sullivan cross-examination
6:30:45 Marriella Sullivan, friend of John O’Keefe
6:50:45 Marriella Sullivan cross-examination
R.I.P. John J O’Keefe
30:15 - 1:18:15 : Pathological liar gets exposed.
Thank you for the time breakdown
Thank you for this
Thanks! love that you do this!
Thank you
The truth does not require looking at records for every damn question.
Jen is a real-life KAREN 😂😂😂😂
She’s much worse than that!
Defense: “Do you have a pulse”
Jen McCabe: “I don’t recall. I’d have to look at the EKG records”
😂😂😂
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I’m dead 😂
*sucks teeth first
It is laughable that Jen McCabe said Carrie is a talker. Jen McCabe was way more talkative than Carrie. Also, more disrespectful and sassy.
@md8465 she’s not just disrespectful and sassy; she’s narcissistically evil. Thinks she’s above the law.
Sassy???? Shes a demon..as evil as they come. No empathy whatsoever. Poster child for Narcissism.
Lawyer was disrespectful towards her also
Kari even said she was a talker.
@@kingduran007 the lying snake deserves a lot more than disrespect for her lies, she deserves to be investigated by honest police.
I hope there's justice for this poor man, closure for his family and nothing but smooth sailing for those horribly unfortunate children of multiple tragedies.
Amen! The kid’s situation now breaks my heart! 3 tragedies in a row! ❤️🩹
What is Justice? They’ve proven nothing as far as Karen goes.
what justice ? there been no crime yet
So very tragic. This shows her irrational, impulsive behaviour. She isolated him and when he was ‘allowed’ to be with his friends, she tried live bombing them with money. Controlling and emotionally abusive. I feel she’s projecting. She would make excuses and try to use money to ‘buy’ people’s favour and forgiveness. She feels everyone else will do the same to her. She’s paranoid, impulsive, lacks insight and that is a very dangerous combination. Sh doesn’t remember as she was so drunk but I truly feel she did hit him. Accidental maybe, I’ll give her that, but she was uncontrollably mad and didn’t think before as she was drunk.
@@RevaRobillard whooohahaha you talk ficton lies
Butt dials…they were looking for his phone. Wanted to make sure it wasn’t in the house. They couldn’t find it because it was under his body.
Exactly!!!!!!
Let’s get to the autopsy report already.
It's coming and if you've seen photos of his injuries, well, you've been tricked because they've been filtered and doctored.
@@2bcYT yeah, I haven’t researched. Just wondering where this is all going?!
John will be the best witness in his own murder case
This whole family needs to be locked up. This is just crazy. This Mcabbe women looks the most guilty. She argues and fights the stupidest of questions. It's clear she is hiding things. Can't wait for the body language guys to get this one.
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OMG! The Smoking Gun. Karen did not take her shoes off before walking into John's house while frantic and panicking because she clearly knows something's wrong. 🙄🙄
I guess she knew John wasn't coming home!
@@pinklady5795sure, that is the damning evidence 🙄
@KTD1988 I didn't say anything about evidence! I just said, maybe she knew he wasn't coming home! It is weird Jen and Kerry did, probably thinking John was still alive! They had no idea what was going on!
This B. and her family deserve every bit of this backlash. I can't believe everything coming out of this case. This is no doubt a cover-up and a conspiracy. Never seen so much corruption.
As we see the trial progress, we know Karen admitted to murder at scene. All testimony of Jen supports that. We see no corruption whatsoever, but rather a near perfect police investigation.
@@danielearnshaw2221so far, all we see is massive corruption from Brain Albert and all the way to aunt Bev.
Jenn has been caught in lie after lie. 3 days on the stand will be enough to make anyone so frazzled they forget their lies. I almost feel sorry for her. But, the cover up of the “friend’s” death is so obvious it’s ridiculous.
@@danielearnshaw2221Sure 🙄
JMC saying the Officer asked her at the scene to go wake up the Alberts is WILD!! How did they not know it wasn’t a triple homicide and that there weren’t more dead bodies inside the house? They just send a civilian inside assuming it’s not a crime scene??
It was a circus outside how didn’t they know?
Nothing at all unusual about that. lol you all are nuts.
He was between houses. Why aren't y'all interested in the neighbors? And them not waking up either?
@@kharmon10 watch out now they’ll be at the neighbors house protesting out front lol.
Brilliant question!!
The prosecution is so boring that I've skipped their direct examination every single time.
A time stamp here would greatly help
Literallyyyyy
Agree 😵
I agree on the time stamp
Why would you skip that? Looking for bias confirmation? It’s all over for the online mob.
I usually put timestamps within half an hour after the Live has finished
Troopers drove to talk to people not involved with the incident yet didn’t interview some people actually there till as last as this year…. Make total sense
Sus as heck!
Amnesia must be contagious in this part of town
multiple butt dials , and butt googles are also a part of the quaint city of Canton.
Karen has so many versions that only possibly one could be true of any. So yes I see it clearly.
Only on cross, on direct and redirect, their memories are great!
@@BRoyal1908 Seems they all like to drink and definitely see no issue with drinking and driving, with some major selective memory!!!!! lol 🤦♀️🤷♀️🤦♀️
@@BRoyal1908 💯 it is interesting to watch them unravel - def ‘wet brain’
One of the most telling issues is, Jen NEVER goes to, John's body to help him. Who doesn't run to their friend who they "love"? She distanced herself as much as possible. Karen, even had to insist (according to Jen's testimony) that they go by 34 Fairview in the morning to look for him. She makes a point of saying, Karen saw him first and "knew where he was" when the other two ladies didn't see him. We know Jen saw the body after he was beat up and we know she knew he was left out in the yard. How? Because of the accusations she makes in her testimony, because of all the, "absolutely not!" answers, because of the dire need to talk with everyone and make certain they knew HER narrative, because as a former fifth grade teacher she RARELY uses a contraction, and because she says NEVER every other sentence. She's a case study in anti-social personality behaviors. Sadly, Karen thought she was calling a friend to help. Karen, should have brought, John's niece to look for him.
Interesting that Kerry described herself as a real talker today, using the exact words as Jen McCabe used yesterday when they were explaining why they were hanging out in the drive way of the investigtor who was on the case. They claim innocently talking to the wife while they dropped off a kid. They are rehearsed down to the exact description of why it took so long.
So much shared phrasing across testimonies. Specific descriptions that aren’t casual speech coincidences
That's all you got out of their testimony? Nothing about Karen calling them at 5 am, and telling Kerry John is DEAD? Why didn't Karen call 911?
The Google search at 2:27am by Jennifer is the smoking gun, Karen is not guilty
This is the single biggest thing for me (and there are a looot of big things). There is no way to explain that whatsoever. She doesn’t try to explain it like “I was worried he got in a fight with Karen and he went for a walk that’s why he never came inside, thought maybe he slipped and hit his head or something” even THAT is more believable. She doesn’t do any of that, she just says the data extraction is wrong and the computer is just making up the fact that she googled that at that time. Which is hilariously laughable.
@@ohtobeasurielagree, laughable…. 🤣😂🎯… she is the real Karen! 😳
Agree
“Josh ordered a dirty martini with blue-cheese stuffed olives.”That sounds like a critical piece of evidence.
Very compelling testimony
Not all evidence is critical evidence. Perfect normal allowed witness testimony.
@@danielearnshaw2221 I’m kidding. Not much of a sense of humor, huh?
@@slaws2279 no, just being matter of fact. Karen Read is destroying people’s lives to try and save her skin. Don’t think it will work.
Blue Cheese Stuffed olives played a critical role in stinking up the bathroom
I have NEVER seen a judge allow a witness to not only be "hostile", but argumentative, too!
And, at what point is a witness "impeached" and the "Penalty under Perjury" come into play????????? 😂
Couldn’t agree more. Hopefully the jury is smart enough to see it.
it's counsel thhat is being argumentative with the witness.. Objection, counsel is harassing the witness ; or objection..asked and answered...should have been the DA's objection
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Jen McCabe should at the very least have been FIRMLY admonished by the judge to answer ONLY what the attorney asked her. She tried every opportunity to seize control and tell “her” story.
Seriously, she was literally caught lying!!!!
Lying when faced with literal data dumps from her own phone. The delusion is wild.
Truly! The data is right there, but that’s wrong apparently. Same thing with police reports - countless reports just getting what she said wrong left and right 😂 it’s laughable.
All electronics… Google… GPS… All lying only She is telling the truth and remembers perfectly those things but can't remember anything else without complete documentation in front of her… This woman is an absolute joke
If the McCabes were so worried about Karen and John just sitting outside in their car why didn’t anyone go out there and ask them if they were ok
AMEN!! The ONE thing the defense dropped the ball on. I wish they'd asked!
Or, when she didn't get an answer from John, why didn't she call or text Karen?
Yeeeep. She says when she gets cornered “my FRIEND had just died, I was in a state of SHOCK” oh that friend you care so much about that you never bothered to call or text anyone when you saw his car outside but he never came in? Never went out to look for him? Lmao. That’s because he did go inside where he was killed, her story makes no sense.
They were probably just like, oh they must have left, get me another beer!
@@miltdtaHe actually did ask Jen that. He said something on the lines of so ur calling/texting your friend over and over and going to the door and he’s not answering…. He’s what 30 ft away? Farther than me and you… why don’t you go out and check on him? I can’t remember what she said…. Obviously a lie… l
Lally:
“So there’s a garage?”
“And how many garage doors are there?”
“What color are the garage doors?”
“Do the garage doors open?”
“What, if anything, would be used to close the doors, if at all?”
😅
lmfao so perfect
That’s what it feels like
Lunchbox being Lunchbox.
😂 if anything AND if at all?? LOL🤣
It’s AMAZING to me that the only friends who went out in a blizzard to search for John were the women! Not one of those goombahs left their house. 🤦♀️
That’s not a true statement one of the McCabes went out , as did Kerry Robert’s both women went with Read looking for John o’keefe…I think she wanted someone with her to cushion the blow. She knew exactly where his body was. I guess she expected him to magically get up and go in the house after she hit him .
Karen called the women to get them involved in her mess!
@@pinklady5795it doesn't matter who called who. A real man a real husband doesn't let their woman go out in the middle of the night in a blizzard
@dthappy12 Apparently, you didn't hear Kerry's testimony. Her husband said you're not going anywhere, and Kerry said, yes I am! She even told her husband to stay home, and he said he just went out and shoveled the snow in the driveway! So pay attention!
@@pinklady5795real man there 😅
This bunch parties more than college kids on Spring Break.
Connie G.
i think they even drink more than college students after final exams. these people are committed drunks.
The patience of a saint is needy when speaking to Jen - defense is doing amazing job 🙌
I just found out listening to Jen McCabe that the claim is that Karen's car was spotted outside at 12:27 AM but idles outside until 12:45 AM? So you have invited someone to your home, observe they have pulled up, see them sitting there for a full 15 minutes, and don't go outside to ask if anything is wrong? Then the car just disappears and you shrug your shoulders. If they are sitting there that long, I would assume maybe the couple is fighting, or maybe someone is sick or having a problem. VERY STRANGE.
I’ve said that exact same thing….why didn’t the defense ask this
I assume Karen will tell us why when she's on the stand, but she said in a media interview that she was waiting to see if she was welcome in the house before going in. So assuming John already went in, and Matt and Jen both looking out the door at different intervals but either not waving her in or going out to speak to her....or they were waiting for her to leave so they could ambush John in the basement. But then Jen's texts to them to say pull behind me etc would indicate that she was welcome. So much doesn't add up on both sides, it's truly a wild one to watch unfold
These are lies from Jen McCabe. Karen Read’s car did not idle outside for 25-30 minutes. The latest time Karen and John could have arrived was 12:23am, and it was likely a few minutes earlier than that, probably around 12:20am. Jen claimed the car was there until around 12:50am so she had an excuse for why she kept calling John’s phone. The truth is John came into the house around 12:20am, there was a fight almost immediately, and he was mortally injured by 12:30am. During the fight, John must have lost his phone and they couldn’t find it. That’s why they called 6 times in a row in a 15 minute period, they were trying to locate his phone.
@@IronEaglet-ru8zb Yes! They must make it fit the timeline to explain the multiple dials to John's phone. I hadn't thought of that. Although, she said "butt dials" so I guess they don't need coverage because they are all "mistakes" (eyeroll).
@@SuperzzDazzI could see possibly JO went in to guage the situation and decide if they were going to stay and KR was waiting in car on a text or call from him on what they were going to do as in leave or stay?
One of the worst examples of blantant lying I've witnessed. Genuine witness do not destroy evidence. Full stop. Deleting calls/texts/web searches screams consciousness of guilt.
This Kerry lady is truly sad about her friend John! And I think she’s a very credible witness!
correct!
Sure
Comparing Jackson and Lally is like comparing a Ferrari with a Hilman Imp.
Ya maybe so. But that should have nothing to do with justice. That's b.s.
Jackson comes off as a whiny little baby to me. Very unprofessional, and not great at his job either.
@@paulo4771well said 😂 definitely running on fumes 💨
@@hotpinkthreadAre you an Albert?
Interesting that both Jen and Kerri both testify that they took their shoes off while Karen went right in to John’s house. This is so inconsequential. Not sure why they both thought this was important.
1:47:34 I love how Jen-Jen is trying to score brownie points with the jurors by constantly making eye contact when she responds. Ya know she is self-proclaimed “truthful & honest person”. She be selling that hard!!
At every opportunity clan Albert/McCabe mention the harassment they have been subject too, I expect they think this will paint them as victims to the jury, if I was on the jury, I would be thinking that there is much more to this than we are being told in court, and an awful lot of people already think they killed John O'Keefe. I think this could backfire spectacularly on them!
Here’s something that strikes me…Jen and her husband were both, by their own testimony, frequently looking out the windows and doors, the entire time Karen and John were out front. Now, think about the effort it would take for Karen to strike John with her vehicle. She allegedly hit him with the back of her vehicle, breaking her taillight. In order to do that, she would have had to turn her vehicle around in the middle of the road, maybe twice, in order to line it up with his body. Then, on snowy roads, pick up enough speed to hit him and kill him. How, I wonder, could all of that happen without Jen or her husband seeing that?!
The behavior of the people in this town is just outrageous.They are living their own soap opera 🤦♀️
They walked up to the windows a few times. They weren't looking out the whole time
@@Anna-cx4tg She walked up 3 or 4 times, by her own admission, and so did he.
@@SherryKrieg Yes she did, for a very short moment each time, per her testimony. So most of the time she wasn't looking out the window.
Booooohooooo Jenn McCabe you're a victim 😂 when you decide to be the spokesperson for everyone there may be some backlash. If it looks like a liar and it sounds like a liar
My second time watching testimonies and thinking as if I was a juror hearing all of this!!😮
I’m very bothered by the testimony about the recommendation to get a timeline together for “the trial”. Why wasn’t Karen included in all of the group discussions about what could have happened to John? It’s very apparent (by this testimony) that everyone was already planning for Karen to be going to trial?
Exactly!!! Judge Vader allowed complete hearsay about the timeline being created. But, she sustained nearly every objection from the prosecution no matter how reasonable the question was. I don’t know why I am still surprised by her obvious bias.
Great point!
It’s always funny to me how the witness is so argumentative with the defense and can’t remember anything but when the prosecution starts it’s all sugar and spice and rainbows and roses.
She is not a witness after this testimony, she is definitely co-conspirator.
The harassment has a lot to do with it!
@@vedha0 you are co-conspirator of NONSENE!
Day 16, Lally: So your husband was sleeping, and then he woke up?
Lally: so you were in the garden, and the grass would be green, correct?
I feel like he's the type of lawyer that lawyers don't want to become 😂
😂🤣
I know! 🥱
And did your husband brush his teeth that morning, and if so, what brand of toothpaste was on hand,… and could you describe the colour & texture for me 🙃
🤣🤣🤣
Why did the deffense not cross examine Kerry Roberts?!
The judge really needs to control her courtroom better. The witnesses are talking over the lawyers, and rambling on..
A big thing for me about this case is Kerry. Why would she have any reason to lie for anyone, she doesnt. She seems extremely genuine.
Kerry is the first I see shed a tear for John. I’m surprised that Karen hasn’t cried in all of this.
Why does everyone smack when they talk or suck their teeth??? So gross!!!
I said the same thing. Is it a MA thing, or is it an indicator of some kind of substance usage? The men are the worst!
It’s that jacked up tooth 😂
@@martinasmith1035Jen was the worst. Gross
Has there been any information concerning perhaps some swinging among this clan?
Prosecution proved nothing today. The last two witnesses have nothing to do with this case.
Just wait until we hear from the mechanic that changed his tire back in 2014.
They established that Karen is batshit. Jealous and volatile. The type who would lose it and accidentally on purpose back into her boyfriend.
When the kids testify, there has to be a lay out of what happened before. The kids didn’t see the first incident. Do you get that ?
💯. Prosecution just wasted another day proving nothing.
@@mooshie504 Well that's a load of BS if I've ever heard it. We have ALL known couples who have been through a similar scenario as far as her behaviour on vacation yet I bet none of them went on to kill their BF because of it. This proves nothing!
Jen said in her testimony when Carrie drove to the Lank’s house, she sat in the car while Carrie went in to speak with Detective Lank’s wife. But Carrie in her testimony said Detective Lank’s wife came out to the car and sat in the back. Those are conflicting stories, would you not say?
Right and why did both go? To drop her kid off?
Where, if anywhere, were you?😂
lmao 🤣
Well, I didn’t exist at that moment. 😂
I love how she keeps asking for records, yet she doesn’t even believe the records 🙄 they show her call logs and she still claims her memory is better than the evidence….
Let's see you recall every single nuance during an unexpected dead body of a friend, running a home, raising kids trying to keep some semblance of normalcy. Try and recount your every single call, deletion, butt dial without the help of a print out.
@@donnarega1249it’s not hard to remember the truth!!! Get a clue Donna McAlbert! 😅
I’m really getting tired of the “ what if anything’s”!!!
The judge really should control
The witness..
Aunt Bev only worried about controlling the trial outcome in favour of her friends…The Albert’s!
I wonder if Kerry regrets not listening to her husband when he said she should stay home that morning..
Her tail light looks like someone took a bat to the corner of it
Definitely not a human being. Especially if she was going 5 miles an hour
@@kristarussell6093 so they are claiming she was going 5 miles an hour, in reverse, in the snow and did enough damage to kill somebody? 🙄
@@KTD1988and break the tail light?! No way.
I have no idea what could have happened there that night / morning, they all seemed calm and nice to each other on the videos. But, I would never be able to convict Ms Read based on the information presented in this trial.
When is the ME going to testify?
How does a judge interrupt someone talking to tell someone who is not talking to raise their voice
Jen Mc was upset about the backlash she and her family experienced before the trial - wait until folks see how nasty and what a liar she is!
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When will that happen? Jackson cross examined her already.
Karen is the one lying
@@kingduran007 So i guess karen was the one who sneaked into Jens home , took jens mobile phone at 2.47 am in the morning and searched Hos long to die in the cold. Ok LOL
@@kingduran007Not sure what planet you’re on, but any basic understanding of the evidence here fully supports an acquittal.
jen pointed out the directions to 34 fairview and literally said she told the driver "the house was right there at the end the house with the line of trees .. of course that's where he was found .. she directed them to look at the line of trees ..obviously she wasn't going to point john out ..she waited for karen to see him first
Why are prosecutors making a big deal about Karen not taking her shoes off? Whos first thought in a panic to find their loved one would be "oh yea let me take my shoes off" 🤦♀️
@Nocomment950 well this isn't a way to do it. My last thought when I'm frantically searching for my loved one would be "oh let me kick my shoes off real quick and have to put them back on to hurry and leave to find him". Seriously....this looks ridiculous
Seems to be alot of people that keep peeking out the windows at that after party.
They were probably on drugs also..did you Jen McCabe’s eyes??
Kind creepy to me. 😂
You bet Wally, Jen at least 3-4 times Her husband twice , the friend Julie. Where was the time to run someone over? John wasn't in that Lexus, he was being beat to death between the Waterfall and that house.
Super weird for sure.
They probably kept looking out to make sure Karen wasn't coming to the door!!
Wow. Lots of calls with Proctor, but Jen doesn’t recall any of them.
She doesn’t recall each conversation. You sound like Jackson twisting it around lol
@@stevenprice6957 shut 🆙
No she doesn’t recall any of the phone conversations when asked in cross examination. But if asked by Prosecution in a more favorable light to her then her memory is markedly better.
You would think the reality of the federal investigation and that they are able to retrieve everything would have set in by now!
He didn’t have the records for her to look at
Why didn’t either attorney ask her how a Google search about dying in the cold could be on her phone if she didn’t do it ?? She says she didn’t do it well how did it get there? It showed up on her forensic extraction?
All the forensics are somehow wrong, apparently. According to her, anyway. Lies and more lies.
Well apparently that extraction is incorrect. If she said she didn’t do it, well that must be the case!
@@kristarussell6093 HA HA HAAAA what a joke
Bc we ALL know she did it! She admits to searching for same two more times at 6 am.
This is just so crazy!! Where are the men looking for John?? They by now all know he’s missing. Carrie was in bed with her husband when Karen called and Karen said, John’s dead!”Her husband didn’t leap out of bed to find him??? They send their wives out for an alibi and to frame Karen.
It was a blizzard. Did you not hear Kerry describe how her car spun in 360s on the Hwy so they began using back roads. Kerry's husband told her she was not going out in it but she did anyway.
@@2bcYT So then why didn’t he go with her knowing John was in serious trouble? Because he’s hiding under the blankets.
@@patticarver4294right. My hubby would have said "bs you're not driving in this mess, I will"
@@heatherc2576 Any decent man would.
The husbands were busy cleaning up the crime scene.
Damnnnn....2:27AM "HOS LONG TO DIE IN THE COLD!!" she was at home in bed then, not with KAREN! She knew when she left her sister's house that night/early AM, that John was laying out there in the snow in their yard dying and went home anyways and didn't call an ambulance!!!! That is damning evidence! So did she just not want to deal with it cause she was drunk, or did something happen in that house!! That is REASONABLE DOUBT ABSOLUTELY!! Also, if you google german shepherd bite wounds/attack wounds, it's pretty crazy how much the wounds on John's arm look like German shepherd teeth marks/teeth drags/scratches!!! The snow plow operator also stated that John was NOT out there when he went by! Karen may not be innocent, but there is reasonable doubt in this case and Karen should be exonerated/acquitted!
Right?
This is irrelevant. She even said that the extremely expensive software from the phone company got the time wrong.
The bites on his arm DO not look like the search results from Google. I did it as well and they look nothing alike so I have no idea why you are saying this.
@@mighty0974 Cause her word is more believable than the most used software for cellphone analysis?
You clearly haven't watched this case. A forensic expert testified there were ZERO dog bites and no dog saliva. Hellooooo. Wake up
😮😮😮How is it possible that someone isn't there and hit John, she is lying to the core, in my opinion, to frame Mrs. READ, HORRIBLE😮😮😮😢😢
I hope the O’Keefe family paid attention to that 2am google by Jen!! Don’t be fooled!
So you think they believe that she did it? I got that feeling when his brother testified.
I must have missed it , did she deny googling that at 2am ?
@@KTD1988 sadly she claims she NEVER googled that at 2am and only at 6ish when Karen asked her to.
Exactly! I cannot fathom how anyone could remotely believe that Karen had anything to do with this disaster!
The point the common wealth it's trying to make about Karen not taking off her shoes is insane. Karen was frantically looking for John. That's why she didn't take off her shoes
Ah, finally, the 2:27 a.m. search is here.
I just wish Yannetti would have added one more line during the Sullivan sisters cross to drive his point home that there have been people in this case like Julie Nagle who were present at 34 Fairview on that night and weren't interviewed for over a year since the incident and yet these sisters were interviewed within 10 days of John passing away.
SO much reasonable doubt!!!
The true evidence of that is coming. The defence is wrong and they know it. They just want grow it up as it fits their garbage.
@@stevenprice6957paroles paroles paroles
@@dw2me💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Excellent point!
Kerry seems truthful.
I want to make something very clear: The individuals on these videos saying KR is guilty are acquaintances with those who covered up this crime.
Because lets be real. You'd have to have the 🧠 the size of a peanut to believe she's guilty after the damning testimony from these unreliable witnesses.
Bull hockey I live in a different State never met anyone from Massachusetts. I just have critical thinking skills and it defies all Logic what you Turtle boy fans are saying. Lol😂
@@MyMomo17 I make my own decisions on these trial after hearing testimony AND not a turtleboy fan…
@@MyMomo17no one cares about your opinion, looks like you’re paying more attention to the court side drama than the actual facts my momo LOL
@@MyMomo17 I'm waiting for your response GENIUS
@@stephanieklar9839 From your comments, you have conformation bias and only listening to the defense. You don't have to bully other people .
That prosecutor is horrible and boring.
All credible witnesses for the prosecution
How come the Judge is allowing petty, gossipy testimony? They're attempting to make, Karen look bad. They're making themselves look bad & are making John sound like a terrible boyfriend.
I wonder if she'll ever gossip again. She seems to be the lead detective, judge and jury in this case. Such a liar.
The ring leader Jen is trying to keep her story straight by constantly looking at transcripts 😏 because she told so many lies.
Jen Mc is snapping that word “Correct” out so smashingly that it sounds like she is saying “Cracked”!
😂used to allegedly being cracked-out, so comes naturally 🤷🏼♀️
As a southern woman, I was trying to understand what the word “sowr” was.
I eventually figured out she was actually saying “SAW.” As in I “sowr” (saw) a yellow butterfly.
Yall being harassed because it seems as though yall setting this lady up. Why would you google that at 227 Am that day and erase it
Her ability to maintain her lies is impressive, she thinks she’s smarter than everyone else and I’m sure her cop friends have led her to believe that
What is the point of this last witness. She is going on and on about nothing that has to do with this case
I will never understand why people stay in relationships if they are too miserable to enjoy life.
The Aruba trip's humiliating incident was the last straw for John. He asked her to move out but she refused. She's a bunny boiler. That's why she's never been married and maybe never even been asked either.
@@2bcYT she didn’t live with him so how would that work? Lol! I’m fact, she wasn’t even supposed to stay there that night, but since John never came home she can’t leave his niece alone…
@@2bcYTYou’re saying all this like you were John’s closest friend and knew his thoughts exactly.
@@Marilynn-minoux It's in the children's statements -- his niece and nephew that Karen didn't want. That's not news but delivering it to the Jury will be a boom.
@@2bcYT the bunny was John, and the family of drunken snakes ensure he would never talk by leaving him to die in the snow after his unprovoked beating.
WOWZERS!!! Jen googled, how long to die in the cold, at 2:27 am. She knew John was in the yard. And yet, deny, deny, deny.
HUGE MOMENT!!
Curious - why would Jen want to kill John? They seemed to really like the guy. And even more curious- why do such a bad job of doing it and making a ridiculous cover story or frame up? Motive doesn’t register with me at all, even if all the crew has many shady things they’ve done.
@@craigversion2 🛑 Who suggested Jen “killed JO”?? Are you following this trial at all whatsoever?!?! Or receiving piecemeal information…
@@craigversion2 and Jen is a she not a they!
Omg she looks so busted after the call out on the message search
Seems like this judge has slightly become less bias towards the prosecution, most likely due to public outrage over her misconduct, allegedly.
Was Jen having an affair with John? Why would she call and text him relentlessly???
This trial could have already been OVER (or well into the defense case) if the state didn’t call absolutely meaningless witnesses.
It would be ever so helpful if you could put in the description who is testifying each day.
She is such a Liar and they are all trying to frame Karen Reed. Karen I hope you go after all of them for what they put you through. IMO
These are all searched in the “private” search mode… suspicious.
All of this drama goes nowhere. Let’s hear the autopsy results
Why do the attorneys and prosecutor not wear mics?? The audio is terrible!!!
Let's just pretend for a minute that KR is guilty. Idk how to reconcile that with all the things that don't add up during cross and the joke of an investigation.
Don’t have to pretend. Overwhelming evidence from all quarters. It all adds up.
@@danielearnshaw2221where are they? Not presented in the trial yet . But liar Jen was
You must not be watching
@@danielearnshaw2221Stop talking around questions and answer them, JEN.
@@danielearnshaw2221 i am. But you must be trolling
If Karen did strike him, the police really messed this one up. Also, the Albert’s in an attempt to distance themselves, made huge missteps that make them look guilty.
Ok I’m from the UK, never heard of this case before or seen anything online about it.
I’ve just caught up on it this week and wtf?!
Whether she did it or didn’t do it, she surely won’t be convicted.
And who is turtle boy?
An independent reporter who has a personal podcast or blog of some sort and exposed a lot of what the defense is stating.
@@JazzyScat thank you. Is he widely believed? What are you American folks thinking? What’s the press saying?
I agree Karen Read will walk. Turtle Boy is a "personality" that conjured up media attention and outrage regarding this case and promotes support of Karen Read
@Michelle- dh5gs
Turtle Boy if you look up his blog will tell you he simply started doing ordinary research into this case for his reporting purposes as he does all cases. He started finding more and more that didn’t add up. He has now been and is currently being harassed and retaliated against by the prosecution’s side and even been jailed for the rolling rally and other forms of expressing his free speech against what he believes to be a massive coverup and frame up of an innocent woman/ but don’t take it from us here. Listen to the trial from here on out and see if the prosecution is presenting a believable case.
Also watching from across the pond, I wish we could get broadcasts from UK trials. Imagine some of the chaos in there 😂
OMG! Did I just witness the judge ALLOWING hearsay? She literally allowed Jennifer to basically say,”the friend of my friend said…” WTF am I watching? And why am I still surprised by Judge Vader AKA Judge auntie Bev allowing the hearsay because it benefits the prosecution, but sustaining EVERY objection from the prosecution to harm the defense? I hope she is disbarred and removed from the bench after the national coverage of the this case.
Well well well. No cross for Kerry Roberts, and no salacious hit pieces from the main slime media in the room. How interesting.
And she is the one with the most damming statement against Karen!
Oh no! Karen didn't take her shoes off in her panic! Guilty! 🙄
She also slept on the couch? Why, if she was staying over with John, would she not sleep in his bed where she usually sleeps? If she was not planning on staying, then why didn’t she just assume he stayed over, and go straight to 34 Fairview to pick him up?
Karen is definately guilty like OJ it was! Very very simple.
WOW this family is about as conniving as I’ve ever seen!!! Was Jen in love with John? Sure seems like it!
The fact no one went outside to see if they left or were coming in or anything doesn’t raise a red flag for me. If they didn’t come in people most likely figured they changed their minds and went home. If that’s what happened. Trying not to be lead by the protests and just watching the trial the defense raised enough reasonable doubt as they should. In my opinion Karen accidentally hit him probably thought he’d get up when she didn’t hear from him she panicked because she knew something worse had happened. Unfortunately the state didn’t bring forth the concrete evidence I would’ve liked to have seen in order to convict Karen. I do not believe a group of friends, police, emergency workers and others agreed to a coverup and a plan to frame an innocent woman.
I agree. I believe they are covering up being involved in the investigation or getting information about the investigation, i.e., talking about it with one another. I've just started watching the case and have commented as I go along.
2.27 *BAM*
Perry Mason moment. 🔥
That sealed the deal
So they decided that Karin was guily because they got in an argument on vacation about what looks like a child? Murder over this? I dont see it! This whole situation blows.
No. The kids will be on the stand. It’s explaining what happened before hand and how they were of that night. Kids are not going to lie. They want truth and justice for their uncle. It will also lead into how they were behind closed doors. Something that only people behind closed doors know about and witness. Kaylee will also testify to that night and what Karen did and what she said. It’s a platform to go ahead with all of that.
Ya, the kids will tell us, that Karen and John fought a lot and were supposed to be on a break from each other. Just because John, tried to keep it cool out in public, with Karen. Doesnt mean, their relationship was great behind closed doors.. John was a cop for Pete's sake. So you better believe those kids.
So far, i heard nothing else but gossip. No real evidence was presented so far. What a shame.
If she got internet hate before .. after this the outrage is gonna be insane.. not one word seems believable
This Jennifer Babe can't answer most of the questions asked of her. Talk about Questioning the Question! These police babes learn well.