All I know is if I get accused of a crime I hope I have as solid and straightforward witnesses on my side as this gentleman who was plowing snow that evening
Lally showed his true colours with her. He has no real interest in justice. He's simply not equipped to deal with witnesses that he hasn't prepared. He reminded me of a toddler kicking & screaming that he couldn't get his own way. Prosecutors have a duty to pursue truth in the public interest. Lally is bitter & vindictive.
@@roxdarmurray6634 Regardless of guilt or innocence we should all be entitled to some civility. The way he spoke to her was appalling . She remained courteous and stood her ground. She’s a model physician and a credit to her profession.
The community should support Lucky, the most brave witness that now may be exiled by the cop family he unwisely protected. I hope some neighbors step up and befriend him and not let him become persona non gratis in Canton.
@freescholar_familytree absolutely agree. If you watched Turtleboy when he recorded ttown committee all calling for Chris Albert's resignation. They know he and the Albert family killed/covered up John O'Keefe's murder. Those people should 100% support Lucky and make sure he is protected from these criminals.
Think of the risk this man is taking by giving this testimony. Lucky is a lifer in this town. He knows the Alberts and in sure he knows what power they hold in that town. He’s putting himself at risk giving this testimony.
Does anybody notice Lally's voice is elevated more now when questioning the defenses witnesses than in the beginning when he was speaking to his witnesses.
I wouldn't say he is very well spoken or very intelligent (based on his testimony, maybe he is 🤷🏿) but he seems like a normal dude who has no reason to lie. A truthful and honest dude who wants his truthful facts to be heard. High morals and Integrity.
After 29 days all of a sudden Lally speaks louder, is aggressive and shows passion for his case. Only to bully elderly witnesses. Comical and tragically sad.
He was grand and handled Lallys temper tamptrums perfectly...helpful and smiling throughout them 😂 which appeared to wind Lally up even more. What was noticeable to me was both Jessica and Whiffen didn't use the identical operation system to Jens phone like Green did why would they do that. They should know more than anyone each operating system is different so its no wonder their findings would be different.I can't believe they would come to court and do that.
@@nicoljane3083I can't recall Jessica's exact response to the iOS version,but Whiffen stated he couldn't find the appropriate one, which I found to be frankly unbelievable in such a vast community of digital forensics where info is freely available. I think what's far more disturbing about this case is that the commonwealth invested far more resources into defending Jen McCabe than establishing guilt. Instead we are presented with trooper Paul and his community college degree. Whatever the outcome for this case it should stand as a model for how not to conduct an investigation & subsequent prosecution.
@@letmework6254 I'm beginning to think someone knew it would give the same results has Greens. Both the CW and Whiffen already knew of Greens findings...so they've had plenty of time well over 12months to find and use the same ios...what better way for the CW to prove Green wrong but they didn't. Lally must think or hope everything just flies over the jurors heads.
The way Lally is trying to discredit Lucky is so embarrassing. He was literally trying to implant false memory. Kudos to Lucky for standing his ground.
John’s brother is breaking my heart. He has been there everyday hoping for justice. The descriptions he has endured about his brother’s death and biopsy takes so much bravery. This is a terrible but beautiful example of a brother’s love. He is the last of his siblings. He is now an only child in the worst possible way. Sending him and his family so much love.
@@rsera42O absolutely. And Reddit is posting that is EXACTLY what is happening. I need to go catch up, though. Last I read a few weeks ago stated the feds were also investigating Judge Auntie Bev Vader too.
I been saying since day one the injuries do not add up at all . A car hitting him and he supposedly died from the car hit and he has no broken bones and it’s only his face and upper areas. Come on ! The entire police department is corrupt !
Exactly I have had a friend that has the same Lexus SUV that thing is a freaking tank when it comes to normal size cars if she hit him at 25mph surely there would be bruises all over
Chloe is alive and happy living in Vermont. I bet she went to Vermont because the family was afraid the harassers would harm her. Poor Chloe didn’t bite him.
The Sr was an AMAZING witness! No matter how much Lollygag tried to demean her decades of experience it didn’t work, she is a specialist in her field and was a fantastic witness and I’m sure the jury would have seen that!
I've been out MANY nights with a bunch of people with great amounts of alcohol involved. A homicide has never taken place. I feel as if the alcohol is very mildly, if at all, to blame.
Everyone talks about all or nothing when its probably a combo of things. If a dogs owner is fighting the dog will jump in and join the fight. Could easily be that vs a vehicle/pedestrian accident at LOW SPEED! No one just rehimes a dogs and throws aways phones thats way More sus then anything else REASONABLE DOUBT HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.. lets move on
Reasonable doubt at worst! Prosecution had the burden & they did not prove their case! There seemed no reason to have weeks of witnesses saying the SAME, rehearsed testimony. Defense only needs a few days! Cut & dry, NOT GUILTY!
I remember one of the troopers testifying that they normally don't record interviews with cooperating witnesses. Now I understand why, because audio doesn't lie. They tried to say the plow driver gave conflicting times and didn't initially identify the vehicle as a Ford Edge. Not counting the expert witnesses, I would say the plow driver has been the only one so far that's told the truth.
@@JazzyScatexactly! The plow driver was very clear what exact time he was on the road and what he saw. Perjury Proctor seems to have changed this man’s times and recollection in his report. 🐍
Why is the judge UNPROFESSIONALLY twirling her eyeglasses during the cross exam of defense’s first witness? Isn’t she supposed to be the proprietor of decorum in the courtroom? Integrity, etc?
Yeah ! you’re right a huge difference because the defense witnesses are really bad , the forensic guy was an embarrassment not mentioning the old lady she lie through her teeth lol a bad day for the defense!
@TruthExplorer-v6w lol nooo the funny part was when she said it was a cure all and then the Judge said it’s not. It has nothing to do with the actual question itself.
Is Lally really suggesting that Johns injuries weren't serious enough to be a dog bite while arguing that the lack of serious injury to his body is consistent with a pedestrian vs mva accident?
25:46 when the ME is asked about whether she felt pressured into giving a certain determination and when answering the hypothetical put to her of what she would say if she was in that position her answer is 'my response WAS' not that her response 'would be'.
So Docter what is your conclusion to the origins, and the reason for the injury's sustained on John OKeefe's left arm, "OBJECTION " SUSTAINED" What is the point of the expert witness, if she is silenced by the JUDGE?
The judge can’t sit still. She’s always fidgeting. Swinging in her chair, shifting her body, flipping her glasses back and forth…it’s strange behavior for a judge in my opinion!
@@DeonneDuplechainI didn’t say she’s not “doing her job”. I said it’s odd behavior for a judge to be so fidgety. But I also think she has some bias tendencies which is not “doing her job” very well!
@@jwilderthe Defence do not subscribe to sarcism as there is an innocent women's life at stake. The state is here for the circus - they would definitely fit along in the YSL Trial
Chloe the dog was most probably a trained police dog as some point or had the same type of training. Most of the time those dogs are trained with a shield on the arm of a K9 police officer on their right arm. So it would make a lot of sense that she only attacked John O'Keefes arm that he held up to protect himself.
@@mirielevieiraalmeida555you must not have understood her comment. Dr. Russell was a defence witness, testifying about the injuries/dog bites etc. to John’s arm. She held her ground against Mr. Lally and his condescending, rude tone and questions.
She shouldn’t have testified in the first place. It looks like she had her own agenda by INSERTING herself in to the trial. No Dog DNA was found so what the heck is she talking about?
To me, the difference is Jackson, Yannetti, and Little appeared to keep their composure the majority of the time. Lally came out aggressive with every defense witness. His voice is elevated. He’s out of breath, talking much faster, and cutting off the witness so much, Judge Bev is repeatedly correcting him. I’m not saying he is wrong for using this approach but when the witnesses stay calm as Tibetan monks while Lally is frazzled, it’s noticeable and makes Lally appear inexperienced and unable to handle pressure.
The prosecution has the burden of truth. They need to present anything and everything they feel will help their case. That is why it has taken so long with their witnesses.
Let's not be upset at Lally getting angry with defence witnesses. He has invested months and months into this case and the first 3 witnesses of the defence are making him look like the fool he is and that is upsetting to him. The real fear he has is that the defence has witnesses (with real degrees) that are going to make Trooper Paul look like a kid in grade scool that never finished his book report but doesn't have a dog to blame that poor animal for eating it.
Lally just looks annoyed to be there at this point. I wonder if he’s feeling the heat of this case leaning towards not guilty. His witnesses have been a bit of a mess throughout this trial.
The difference is in the movie, the cop asked the characters if they shot the clerk, and they responded in shock by repeating the question. Karen spontaneously said I hit him. Meaning the thought originated in her mind
Dr. Russell is ALL OF OUR FRIEND (he he)! How DARE he use that tone with her! LallyGAG and Auntie B (I feel) feel threatened by her vast knowledge and intelligence!
Man I honestly love that we have gotten to the technological point in history where you literally cannot lie because there are multiple things tracking everything you do. If you are a law abiding citizen you are fine. Its like 1984 but as a normal person that isn't a criminal its just regular life.
My daughter was bitten by labs all over her back and side. These look the same to me. She had the same long bites and the punctures. Dr at er said the long bites were from her jerking away from them, and the canine teeth tearing her, or scraping downward.
Amazingly the Dr wasn’t allowed to share her conclusions because it would help the accused. When something doesn’t help, no matter how inflammatory, it’s welcomed with corrupt open arms
Didn’t Brian Albert say that when he came home he put the dog out side… Maybe he actually went outside with him and John O’Keefe went out there and was attacked by the dog!
Before he was quiet and boring and weak. Now that he is cross examining the defendant’s witnesses with a little vigor, he is rude. He can’t win. Lolol. 🙃🤪☺️
No tail lights do not bite. And no you cant hit a arm at 24mph and launch a body 30 feet in the air. He got sucka punched and bite fell back into the barbells and cracked skull open. Probably was going to be taken away from the seen at 3am (stuffed in a ford eclipse) but Lucky the snow plow driver foiled that by driving by the house and seeing the Ford Escape that was un able to escape. So all plans were then aborted.
@@donnie9001 for Colin? Colin was drinking before he even showed at the house and drank more there. The reason i say Colin is because the Alpirts and others are going out of their way to distance him from house. I think he hit Okeefe with a barbell, let Chloe at him because he has a temper and went with it. Okeefe didnt really like Colin as Colin threw his empty beer cans on his property. Theres really no one else there who had a orob with Okeefe, just Colin. Most dont agree with me, but think its Colin.
I started this case with an open mind. In fact I was actually leaning more towards Karen's guilt. But I must admit I am now leaning more towards her being innocent. There is more than enough reasonable doubt with the case the prosecution has put forth. I don't think she had any hand in the death of Officer O'Keefe. Whatever occurred inside or outside The Albert's house happened after Karen dropped him off and left. That's it.
@@jwildershe was trying to make sense of what happened. Nobody immediately would think he was killed by his friends and left to die. Plus she was still half drunk and not in a reasonable state of mind. IMO
@@jwilder That's a quilty conscious talking, not too mention her rage recorded for everyone to hear, 50 plus phone calls, drunk is one thing but that's regretting her actions to murder.
Yup. “JOHN IS DEAD” is what she said in the first phone call to Kerry before they went out looking for him.. Didn’t she call Higgins and say the same thing?
Sounds like the tow truck driver testified to being on, Fairview at 2:30 and the person taking the statement or someone else decided to add a "1" before the time, because it would fit into their false narrative better. The snow helped coverup their original crime of beating a man to half to death only they didn't think about a tow truck driver with years and years of experience as a professional driver.
I truly hope after the jury finds Karen not guilty and the fbi indictments come down, i hope they have something for Lally and this Judge because their clear bias and behavior is disgusting
Hello Shirley! I have never seen this judge do a full day and she is such a corrupt judge! I can't believe that the judicial system lets her get away with it! She should be disbarred!
So here is how court works: the judge isn’t only overseeing this case. The world does not stop for this case, nor does the docket in this court house, or for this judge just magically clear. There are other people fighting for justice in that same court room, therefore a full day or week sometimes is not possible. Hardly screams corruptions.
@@switchie9762in my state, trials are conducted from 9 to 5 Mon through Friday. No days off, no 2 1/2 day weeks. The courts are concerned about wasting jurors’ time.
This lady testified to not being pressured to change her report. However, she based her findings on the police report provided to her. So, confirmation bias was already present. It’s interesting there are nine women on the jury because nine men will immediately see, John had the crap beaten out of him. The, Albert kids knuckles were all torn up. The dog attack of the arm is obvious. John, saw the video of, Karen, kissing Higgins. John, may have swung first. Higgins, is a much bigger guy, had on gloves in the sallyport, so, probably had them on at the house, his snow plow was there (did John hit his head on it falling back from a blow to the eye?), did the fight occur in the driveway? Not much snow yet, so why did, Higgins plow it before the, Alberts pulled in? Was Higgins clearing evidence? We know Higgins is well schooled in crimes, physical restraint, etc. And, after “viewing the family photos”away from the other house guests, Higgins takes off and goes to the Police Department to “move cars”, before “butt dialing” back & forth with, Albert around 2:20 am. Seven minutes before, Jen, googles about how long for a person to die in the cold.
@@barbaramay1866 The Alberts and McCabes and of course, Proctor who broke out the rest of the tail light and planted it on the lawn. The leafblower guy who used it to hide drag marks from the house and the first responder who pretended she wasn’t friends with I think it was Julie. Proctor shared everything with his wife who disseminated it to the rest of the accomplices. Now from Lucky, the snowplow guy we learn they parked one of the family’s Ford Edges in front of where they dragged the body. Possibly to serve as a privacy screen in case a snowplow passed by
@@kathyheslep5720Read has looked at these pictures 100 times over the last two years. I would too if someone was telling me that I had caused them. You become immune to things that you’re over exposed to.
@@kathyheslep5720 Paul shouldn’t be staring at her with such contempt. He also has a prior OUI that caused serious bodily injury in 2020. Lucky he didn’t kill the victim in that accident. So he should sit back and reflect on that.
Im so glad someone else commented this. I totally agree. People are acting like this is all new to her and happened yesterday. She will know this evidence inside and out. Its not shocking to me at all that she is absle to remain calm. Doesnt mean she FEELS calm @EmJust
It’s so refreshing to watch/listen to witnesses who actually know what they’re talking about 👍🏻🤦🏼♀️
And telling the truth...☺☺
And speak politely, with no difference in tone for defence and prosecution.
The Dr.’s resume and experience is insane. Very difficult to spin her as some hack.
All I know is if I get accused of a crime I hope I have as solid and straightforward witnesses on my side as this gentleman who was plowing snow that evening
Plow driver just blew this case wide open and gave the juries reasonable doubt right there!!
Why can’t Dr Russell give her opinion?? Ridiculous!! Surely jury sees that she is not allowed to speak about it!!
Bias comes to mind!
Lally showed his true colours with her. He has no real interest in justice. He's simply not equipped to deal with witnesses that he hasn't prepared. He reminded me of a toddler kicking & screaming that he couldn't get his own way. Prosecutors have a duty to pursue truth in the public interest. Lally is bitter & vindictive.
Lally wasn’t whispering for once. He was angry & yelling at her!
I remember when prosecutors used to seek truth & justice.
@@roxdarmurray6634 Regardless of guilt or innocence we should all be entitled to some civility. The way he spoke to her was appalling . She remained courteous and stood her ground. She’s a model physician and a credit to her profession.
She only has like 40 years of experience. Clearly not enough. She can't fly a drone like Trooper Paul
Lucky is the BEST !
Your honesty and truthfulness are to be commended , simply doing the right and only thing. Thank you!
The community should support Lucky, the most brave witness that now may be exiled by the cop family he unwisely protected. I hope some neighbors step up and befriend him and not let him become persona non gratis in Canton.
@freescholar_familytree absolutely agree. If you watched Turtleboy when he recorded ttown committee all calling for Chris Albert's resignation. They know he and the Albert family killed/covered up John O'Keefe's murder. Those people should 100% support Lucky and make sure he is protected from these criminals.
Agreed
He wasn’t honest he changed all his time of plowing
Think of the risk this man is taking by giving this testimony. Lucky is a lifer in this town. He knows the Alberts and in sure he knows what power they hold in that town. He’s putting himself at risk giving this testimony.
Does anybody notice Lally's voice is elevated more now when questioning the defenses witnesses than in the beginning when he was speaking to his witnesses.
Yah like he’s mad at them lol
It's the same with AJ and AY, I'm on the side of justice, free KR and justice for JO
He is at the microphone rather than wandering around
YES, he is adopting the defense's tactics. LOL
Yes I noticed .....He is stressed and irked
We all should be as nice and innocent and cute as this snow plow dudeeee!!!!
He reminded of the crazy guy in Full Metal Jacket.
ALL defense witnesses were polite, humble, credible & professional. NOT rude, arrogant jerks like most of prosecution witnesses.
Meanwhile Aunt Bev..twirls her glasses again
Yesss!! I just adore this man, he makes me want to cry because he’s just so precious. Love him❤
It all starts at Home Depot
The plow driver is very well spoken and very intelligent. He is also totally believable.
iTS EASY WHEN YOUR BENG HONEST
lmao
I wouldn't say he is very well spoken or very intelligent (based on his testimony, maybe he is 🤷🏿) but he seems like a normal dude who has no reason to lie. A truthful and honest dude who wants his truthful facts to be heard. High morals and Integrity.
@ImAlxxy yeah honesty and ethics..my kinda human
Average guy.. honest testimony. The fact that cars were not permitted to park at roadside would have made a car stand out... it's his job.
Dr. Russell has more brains in her ear lobe than Lally does in his body.
Hahaha true...
After 29 days all of a sudden Lally speaks louder, is aggressive and shows passion for his case. Only to bully elderly witnesses. Comical and tragically sad.
It’s the same the defense has been doing during cross the whole trial- what are you taking about???
How many times did Jacko nearly blow a fuse yelling at witnesses 🤯
No problem asking leading questions either.
I'm annoyed the judge didn't let him bully those "witnesses" more, they were beyond ridiculous
@@jwilder you should never be a juror
All the Karen haters are at the Waterfall drowning their sorrows.
Mr Greene was a delight to listen to.
Our uncle who we just met
He was grand and handled Lallys temper tamptrums perfectly...helpful and smiling throughout them 😂 which appeared to wind Lally up even more.
What was noticeable to me was both Jessica and Whiffen didn't use the identical operation system to Jens phone like Green did why would they do that. They should know more than anyone each operating system is different so its no wonder their findings would be different.I can't believe they would come to court and do that.
@@nicoljane3083I can't recall Jessica's exact response to the iOS version,but Whiffen stated he couldn't find the appropriate one, which I found to be frankly unbelievable in such a vast community of digital forensics where info is freely available. I think what's far more disturbing about this case is that the commonwealth invested far more resources into defending Jen McCabe than establishing guilt. Instead we are presented with trooper Paul and his community college degree. Whatever the outcome for this case it should stand as a model for how not to conduct an investigation & subsequent prosecution.
@@nicoljane3083 do you believe that was an accidental omission? Like they are that incompetent or something more sinister?
@@letmework6254 I'm beginning to think someone knew it would give the same results has Greens. Both the CW and Whiffen already knew of Greens findings...so they've had plenty of time well over 12months to find and use the same ios...what better way for the CW to prove Green wrong but they didn't.
Lally must think or hope everything just flies over the jurors heads.
This snowplow driver is extremely conscientious about his job. Much more so than probably many of us would be. I believe him completely.
He came off as very honest and stuck to his truth with the prosecution's manipulations.
Way more conscientious than the entire police department for sure.
@@sadiehughes6972 Absolutely!
He was coaxed by defense entirely different story from previous interviews
Color Blind… and looking out for his peeps by not calling to have the car/truck towed
finally, some witnesses that actually respect the oath and telling the truth on stand...
The way Lally is trying to discredit Lucky is so embarrassing. He was literally trying to implant false memory. Kudos to Lucky for standing his ground.
John’s brother is breaking my heart. He has been there everyday hoping for justice. The descriptions he has endured about his brother’s death and biopsy takes so much bravery.
This is a terrible but beautiful example of a brother’s love.
He is the last of his siblings. He is now an only child in the worst possible way. Sending him and his family so much love.
I would recommend 50m with corruption inquiry’s to the highest level! Heads would be rolling if my family! 😳⚖️👨🏾⚖️
@@rsera42O absolutely. And Reddit is posting that is EXACTLY what is happening. I need to go catch up, though. Last I read a few weeks ago stated the feds were also investigating Judge Auntie Bev Vader too.
I been saying since day one the injuries do not add up at all . A car hitting him and he supposedly died from the car hit and he has no broken bones and it’s only his face and upper areas. Come on ! The entire police department is corrupt !
Been a puppy raiser/dog trainer for 10+ years. Immediately recognized these injuries were from Canine teeth and claws.
Exactly I have had a friend that has the same Lexus SUV that thing is a freaking tank when it comes to normal size cars if she hit him at 25mph surely there would be bruises all over
Don’t forget internal injuries that he did have!
Absolute homerun by the defense. Ive never seen a more unlikable group of attorneys and witnesses as the prosecution
Dr. Russell is amazing. I’d love to hear her stories!
Same! She is fantastic with such experience!
Where’s the home surveillance video footage from the Albert home from the night of the incident and the morning???
Not a single home surveillance video, other than JO’s, has been introduced which is so odd in this day and time. Very odd.
Buried with Chloe.
Not everyone has home surveillance. I don’t.
Chloe is alive and happy living in Vermont. I bet she went to Vermont because the family was afraid the harassers would harm her. Poor Chloe didn’t bite him.
Not everyone has cameras in their home. I certainly do not.
Lally objects to everything and Judge Bev backs him up. Tag team and they are still losing.
He objects because the defense is always playing their sneaky tricks. They shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.
@@barbaramay1866 is that you Lizzie?
@@mike-uw6wt low IQ comment to a response that you don’t like
@@mike-uw6wtwho is Lizzie?
The Sr was an AMAZING witness! No matter how much Lollygag tried to demean her decades of experience it didn’t work, she is a specialist in her field and was a fantastic witness and I’m sure the jury would have seen that!
She's a retired newspaper reader who decided she could explain the entire case by pointing at a dog. You realise how ridiculous that is right haha
She formed her opinion from reading a news article and invited herself to give her testimony. I loved her biased opinion.
@@jwilderjealous much? 😂
@@jwilder😂😂
🤣😂🤣😂
Some thing that needs to be brought out very clearly is that how many cops go out and get drunk on a regular basis?
Exactly what I have been thinking, bar hopping, drinking after hours and still able to drive home with no DWIs
@@GenerationX1980 Brian Alpirt, I am told hit a man while drunk in his younger days.
and drive
Not sure of veracity tho.
They have zero problem drinking and driving in patrol cars, and deputizing themselves while off duty and intoxicated!
Alcohol effed up all these peeps nights that night. They ALL acted a fool!!! Grow up yall
Totally
True that
I've been out MANY nights with a bunch of people with great amounts of alcohol involved. A homicide has never taken place. I feel as if the alcohol is very mildly, if at all, to blame.
@@mighty0974no doubt!
Thanks Columbo
Everyone talks about all or nothing when its probably a combo of things. If a dogs owner is fighting the dog will jump in and join the fight. Could easily be that vs a vehicle/pedestrian accident at LOW SPEED! No one just rehimes a dogs and throws aways phones thats way More sus then anything else REASONABLE DOUBT HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.. lets move on
Reasonable doubt at worst! Prosecution had the burden & they did not prove their case!
There seemed no reason to have weeks of witnesses saying the SAME, rehearsed testimony. Defense only needs a few days! Cut & dry, NOT GUILTY!
Exactly. And re-homed it out of state
Rips up bsmt and sells house
Really crazy
😮 not to mention Wild Animals attack Neck, Belly &Butt.. trained DOGS attack extremities😮😮😮
There was no K9 DNA found on either the victim’s clothes (where the holes were) or his arm
@@joeseabreezelook at the chain of custody for evidence, though 🤨
I remember one of the troopers testifying that they normally don't record interviews with cooperating witnesses. Now I understand why, because audio doesn't lie. They tried to say the plow driver gave conflicting times and didn't initially identify the vehicle as a Ford Edge. Not counting the expert witnesses, I would say the plow driver has been the only one so far that's told the truth.
Yes and the police report was done by trooper Proctor Silex in 2023 so I don't trust anything in that report about what the plow driver allegedly said
@@JazzyScat”Proctor Silex “…🤣
@@JazzyScatexactly! The plow driver was very clear what exact time he was on the road and what he saw. Perjury Proctor seems to have changed this man’s times and recollection in his report. 🐍
Why is the judge UNPROFESSIONALLY twirling her eyeglasses during the cross exam of defense’s first witness? Isn’t she supposed to be the proprietor of decorum in the courtroom? Integrity, etc?
Horrifying?!!!! 😮
Because She’s an arrogant condescending [ Insert word of your choice here ]
Can’t stand the fake voice she puts on when talking to the jurors too….
She talks to them like children……I bet they hate her.
@@michaelcalland801 when she says in a little girl's voice, " I'll allow that"
@@michaelcalland801wow how sad
The difference in prosecution & defense witnesses is YUGE!! Finally, credible, polite & professional!
Rude, arrogant, incredible witnesses were getting old.
Yeah ! you’re right a huge difference because the defense witnesses are really bad , the forensic guy was an embarrassment not mentioning the old lady she lie through her teeth lol a bad day for the defense!
Best trial day, thus far, by far!
@@LittleSeasonSojourneragreed! Much more credibility and expertise from the experts.
@@josephinedimercurio5012😂😂😂
Imagine thinking the prosecution has a case lmao. Come buy these magic beans I have.
I think Dr. Russell is making Lally look as bad as he is.
Oh Lally...i have 2nd hand embarrassment for you. The dog whisperer just sealed your coffin!!😂
When he says ‘what if anything’ to start his questions……I can’t help but think of Amber Heard’s lawyer Elaine!! 😂😂 iykyk!!
“What if anything IS a cure all your honor!”
Oh WAY too many similarities!
Has to be his wife 😂😂😂
@TruthExplorer-v6w not saying it isn’t, but if you didn’t watch the Heard VS Depp trial, you wouldn’t understand the funny part.
@TruthExplorer-v6w lol nooo the funny part was when she said it was a cure all and then the Judge said it’s not. It has nothing to do with the actual question itself.
Is Lally really suggesting that Johns injuries weren't serious enough to be a dog bite while arguing that the lack of serious injury to his body is consistent with a pedestrian vs mva accident?
DOES THIS JUDGE EVER DO A FULL DAY
She need all the coverage that she could get. As long as possible. She can't take it when defence attorneys are at spot light. She wants it all
That's why professional degrees rock!!!
It’s in Boston- it’s 3 pm there. That’s pretty typical
Government agencies don't know what work means. I guarantee you if they were working for themselves it would be another story. Lazy pukes
Government work.
25:46 when the ME is asked about whether she felt pressured into giving a certain determination and when answering the hypothetical put to her of what she would say if she was in that position her answer is 'my response WAS' not that her response 'would be'.
This also stood out to me
I noticed that too.
I caught that too…
I noticed that as well!!!! 🤔🧐🤔
I caught that too 🤔
I’m delayed 2-hours and viewing Dr. green. He is folksy and likeable 😊
So Docter what is your conclusion to the origins, and the reason for the injury's sustained on John OKeefe's left arm, "OBJECTION " SUSTAINED" What is the point of the expert witness, if she is silenced by the JUDGE?
It was still devastating to the prosecution. Everyone knows what her conclusion was. She had only seen 700 dog bites in her career. 🤣
I don’t think she had anything to say that “devastated” the prosecution.🙃😁
The judge can’t sit still. She’s always fidgeting. Swinging in her chair, shifting her body, flipping her glasses back and forth…it’s strange behavior for a judge in my opinion!
Like in school when one couldn't wait for recess/ lunch break. She calls more sidebars to discuss scheduling than any judge I've seen. Haha!
Constantly sighing, looking at the time, using an annoyed, bored and bothered tone while speaking. She truly is a disgrace
The Judge is doing her job. Stop putting her down. She's calm and very competent.
@@DeonneDuplechainI didn’t say she’s not “doing her job”. I said it’s odd behavior for a judge to be so fidgety. But I also think she has some bias tendencies which is not “doing her job” very well!
Fscts@@danis5425
All 3 defence witnesses were absolutely amazing.
Please tell me you're being sarcastic
Honesty is so refreshing
Yes it is.. it's completely opposite from what we have heard from most of Lallys witnesses these last 6/7 weeks.
@@jwilderthe Defence do not subscribe to sarcism as there is an innocent women's life at stake. The state is here for the circus - they would definitely fit along in the YSL Trial
Defense crashed and burned
These witnesses were horrible
The last expert witness- Lally should be charged for being so rude to this precious innocent man. Lol
He was just doing his job to prove they are not experts
@@donnaj257the snow plow driver never stated he was an expert witness
Have you not seen any of the cross examination on the CW's witnesses? 🤣🤣🤣
Jackson and Yanetti have both done the exact same thing and it was championed. Stop with the bias
Chloe the dog was most probably a trained police dog as some point or had the same type of training. Most of the time those dogs are trained with a shield on the arm of a K9 police officer on their right arm. So it would make a lot of sense that she only attacked John O'Keefes arm that he held up to protect himself.
Yes and he's tall so the dog wouldn't get a full bite if he held his arm up.
Dr. Russell held her ground
crook
@@nolo3you must be related to the McCabe’s or the Albert’s. 😂
@@mirielevieiraalmeida555you must not have understood her comment. Dr. Russell was a defence witness, testifying about the injuries/dog bites etc. to John’s arm. She held her ground against Mr. Lally and his condescending, rude tone and questions.
The bruises on the back of John's hand is like he was shielding his face from consistent Blows to his face just like a boxer would do...
Lally out here accusing this sweet little old lady of chasing clout😂
A woman who is far more accomplished and intelligent than he'll ever be.
She takin’ him down ; why wouldn’t he want to discredit her?
Well she DID invite herself to the clambake. But Dr. Russell, there was no dog DNA anywhere!
@@barbaramay1866 correct. The evidence collected was treated with the highest standards of cleanliness and accuracy to ensure the best results.
@barbaramay1866 Its funny seeing cashiers on UA-cam lecture doctors 😅
The prosecutor's treatment of the Dr. dog bite specialist was rather disgusting. I would guess that it did not play well with the jury.
I don’t think the defense attorneys were sweethearts to the prosecution witnesses.
He knows he’s losing the case and getting desperate.
@@MeMyselfandI25the Defence were brutal were it called for unlike in the Lally issue - he didn't need to bully them
She shouldn’t have testified in the first place. It looks like she had her own agenda by INSERTING herself in to the trial. No Dog DNA was found so what the heck is she talking about?
To me, the difference is Jackson, Yannetti, and Little appeared to keep their composure the majority of the time. Lally came out aggressive with every defense witness.
His voice is elevated. He’s out of breath, talking much faster, and cutting off the witness so much, Judge Bev is repeatedly correcting him.
I’m not saying he is wrong for using this approach but when the witnesses stay calm as Tibetan monks while Lally is frazzled, it’s noticeable and makes Lally appear inexperienced and unable to handle pressure.
So glad the CW rested.. after what seems years
Yep, so much evidence against her eh
@@jwilder absolutely no nil zilch nada non zero
@@jwilderlol wha??
Honestly lol Lally is so borrrring.. WHAT IF, ANYTHING
The prosecution has the burden of truth. They need to present anything and everything they feel will help their case. That is why it has taken so long with their witnesses.
Let's not be upset at Lally getting angry with defence witnesses. He has invested months and months into this case and the first 3 witnesses of the defence are making him look like the fool he is and that is upsetting to him. The real fear he has is that the defence has witnesses (with real degrees) that are going to make Trooper Paul look like a kid in grade scool that never finished his book report but doesn't have a dog to blame that poor animal for eating it.
Very true.
Lally is such a try hard! He's an amateur, he's trying so hard to be a "Jackon" but failed hardcore!
2:13:05 "What....if anything"
The shade he delivered with asking the question that way!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Lally’s been whispering for weeks! YELLING & angry at every witness today. He’s losing & he knows it!😁
Lol 😂this is so funny
I wonder if he knows there’s many ppl are laughing at him and don’t like him
He's so infuriating
How childish.
Dr. Russell for president 💯
Lally just looks annoyed to be there at this point. I wonder if he’s feeling the heat of this case leaning towards not guilty. His witnesses have been a bit of a mess throughout this trial.
His face just keeps getting redder and redder. His blood pressure must be through the roof
He’ll be working at D&E pizza soon delivering Pies
He was certainly targeted as a fall guy bc Stevie Wonder could see that this case was a failure.
The messed up thing is, he should be seeking the truth, not so concerned about winning that he's throwing tantrums and degrading witnesses.
@@skotthall4090😂😂😂👌👍
Lally stating that Karen Read said, "I hit him?" is like that My Cousin Vinny moment stating, I shot the clerk?"
The difference is in the movie, the cop asked the characters if they shot the clerk, and they responded in shock by repeating the question.
Karen spontaneously said I hit him. Meaning the thought originated in her mind
Dr. Russell is ALL OF OUR FRIEND (he he)! How DARE he use that tone with her! LallyGAG and Auntie B (I feel) feel threatened by her vast knowledge and intelligence!
Lallygag. Lol ha ha
This trial has given a whole new meaning to sidebars
Lally is doing his BEST to intimidate Mr Brian, the snow plow driver, to admit to something he never said.
I believe him over any police report.
Right me too… and I have not even heard the plow driver yet! 😂🤣😂😳
@@rsera42O 😂 You didn’t have to. 😂😂😂😂
If I were on the jury, I’d definitely know that something was ‘rotten in Denmark’!! It can’t be more obvious!! Such a crooked judge!
And troopers, local police etc
It is rude when the judge sighs…. Very unprofessional
Are there times she doesn’t sigh?
How dare she breathe?
This judge is disgraceful
The defense witnesses are smart, capable, likeable, and believable. But also so freaking adorable my heart is bursting 😭🥹
🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
Time for your meds
You’re in a cult.
They are rude an obnoxious
@@kingduran007 😂
Wow, Lally is livid over Dr Russell's testimony. He's really grasping at straws in his cross.
It's strange that they didn't find even a piece of taillight in John's wounds or on his clothing.
Man I honestly love that we have gotten to the technological point in history where you literally cannot lie because there are multiple things tracking everything you do. If you are a law abiding citizen you are fine. Its like 1984 but as a normal person that isn't a criminal its just regular life.
Certainly a great thing if you live in Canton Mass; unless you’re lying of course.
RIP to John okeefe
Have had my GSD bite three times and this is exactly what happens
What's a GSD?
@@JazzyScatGerman Shepard dog
@@JazzyScat a German Shepard
@@Smarie39 Ok. And when you say : "this is exactly what happens" what do you mean? Like the picture of John's arm or another part of questioning?
My daughter was bitten by labs all over her back and side. These look the same to me. She had the same long bites and the punctures. Dr at er said the long bites were from her jerking away from them, and the canine teeth tearing her, or scraping downward.
Dr Russell can't state her conclusions? Objection sustained twice? Never seen that before.
It’s been going on in this courtroom for 30 days.
@@letmework6254 I meant this particular objection. Aunt Bev did sustain many objections from the defense with this witness though.
Lally went on and on about nothing but defense cant have a women state what she reviewed without lally having several.side bahhhhs
Lally…what a total jerk. So perky on cross…talking over people and flat out rude.
Amazingly the Dr wasn’t allowed to share her conclusions because it would help the accused. When something doesn’t help, no matter how inflammatory, it’s welcomed with corrupt open arms
I wondered why she wasn't able to either. It's very frustrating but I'm sure the jury came to their own conclusion, as we did.
Since when tail lights bite?
😅
Didn’t Brian Albert say that when he came home he put the dog out side… Maybe he actually went outside with him and John O’Keefe went out there and was attacked by the dog!
If that was the case you would think they would own it because it would be a lot better than the what’s coming for them…….
Lally is so incredibly rude.
Before he was quiet and boring and weak. Now that he is cross examining the defendant’s witnesses with a little vigor, he is rude. He can’t win. Lolol. 🙃🤪☺️
Defense lawyers have been rude everyday
The injuries don’t add up.
What also doesn’t add up is veteran cops throwing another cops dead body IN THEIR OWN FRONT YARD 🤷🏻♀️
@@juliereiger500 why not if the plan is to implicate Karen?
@@ecalose6785 what would be the motive to do so?
No tail lights do not bite. And no you cant hit a arm at 24mph and launch a body 30 feet in the air. He got sucka punched and bite fell back into the barbells and cracked skull open. Probably was going to be taken away from the seen at 3am (stuffed in a ford eclipse) but Lucky the snow plow driver foiled that by driving by the house and seeing the Ford Escape that was un able to escape. So all plans were then aborted.
@@donnie9001 for Colin? Colin was drinking before he even showed at the house and drank more there. The reason i say Colin is because the Alpirts and others are going out of their way to distance him from house. I think he hit Okeefe with a barbell, let Chloe at him because he has a temper and went with it. Okeefe didnt really like Colin as Colin threw his empty beer cans on his property. Theres really no one else there who had a orob with Okeefe, just Colin. Most dont agree with me, but think its Colin.
I started this case with an open mind. In fact I was actually leaning more towards Karen's guilt.
But I must admit I am now leaning more towards her being innocent.
There is more than enough reasonable doubt with the case the prosecution has put forth.
I don't think she had any hand in the death of Officer O'Keefe.
Whatever occurred inside or outside The Albert's house happened after Karen dropped him off and left. That's it.
"I hit him" "did I hit him?", def innocent, lol
@@jwildershe was trying to make sense of what happened. Nobody immediately would think he was killed by his friends and left to die. Plus she was still half drunk and not in a reasonable state of mind. IMO
@@joannt2298 Exactly!!
@@jwilder Also any thoughts on why these supposed friends didn't attend Officer O'Keefe's funeral!??
@@jwilder That's a quilty conscious talking, not too mention her rage recorded for everyone to hear, 50 plus phone calls, drunk is one thing but that's regretting her actions to murder.
Ford edge was trying to frame the snow plow guy? Instead Karen said could I have hit him. Was almost the killer snowplow man cop murder trial
and called Kerry and said John was dead before returning to the scene. guilty
@@sandrah0330 deluded
My exact thoughts!!! The Albert’s and all in this will get what’s coming to them!
Yup. “JOHN IS DEAD” is what she said in the first phone call to Kerry before they went out looking for him.. Didn’t she call Higgins and say the same thing?
@@barbaramay1866 is that on a recorded call or was that what these “ very credible” witnesses reported?
And here we go again with Crooked Bev, constantly interrupting the defense and keeping out any exculpatory evidence.
I do not understand why she let's Lally continue talking after the objection has been made. She is so bias it's absolutely insane at this point
A fracture is a broken bone; a broken bone is a fracture. Yikes.
Defense witnesses 💯 credible & believable!
Jessica Hyde vs Green, L O L!😂
Sounds like the tow truck driver testified to being on, Fairview at 2:30 and the person taking the statement or someone else decided to add a "1" before the time, because it would fit into their false narrative better. The snow helped coverup their original crime of beating a man to half to death only they didn't think about a tow truck driver with years and years of experience as a professional driver.
That person being that snake 🐍 Proctor changed the driver’s time he said he was there
So Mr. Green knows Cellebrite better than the head of Cellebrite?! 🤣😂🤣
I loved, Miss Russell, and Lucky, how Adorable is Mr Green, Lally Tried Mr Jackson tactics 😂
Someone needs to tell the sniffler…enough is enough!
hand them some tissue
You all saying Lally is aggressive is laughable when thats all defense has been this whole trial smh
Not with his own witnesses though
Lally has got this. Staying cos6istent to the facts and evidence. Cool, calm and collective.
Exactly. Jackson and Yanetti have been nasty to a few witnesses
Lally is definitely losing it.
As an aside Jen McCabe is particularly vicious.,
Oh she’s the devil himself.
Do you know her?
@@jwilder inside and out!
@@jwilderyou must be a family member, or Jen McCabe herself…
The Puppeteer for sure
I truly hope after the jury finds Karen not guilty and the fbi indictments come down, i hope they have something for Lally and this Judge because their clear bias and behavior is disgusting
It’s a beautiful day for justice! Rest well defense!
Mr Green rocked. He didn’t let Lally get to him at all and he put big Shot whiffin in his place.
Hello Shirley! I have never seen this judge do a full day and she is such a corrupt judge! I can't believe that the judicial system lets her get away with it! She should be disbarred!
So here is how court works: the judge isn’t only overseeing this case. The world does not stop for this case, nor does the docket in this court house, or for this judge just magically clear. There are other people fighting for justice in that same court room, therefore a full day or week sometimes is not possible. Hardly screams corruptions.
@@switchie9762 Thank you!
This judge is a waste of taxpayers money. Never does a full day then says she wants to get the case done!!
Hey everybody the judge is corrupt because Ed is annoyed that he can't spend all day watching Karen Read on his laptop
@@switchie9762in my state, trials are conducted from 9 to 5 Mon through Friday. No days off, no 2 1/2 day weeks. The courts are concerned about wasting jurors’ time.
Plow driver saw a Ford Edge at 3 in the morning, who drives that car ??? Oh wait , Brian Albert drives a Ford Edge
Hmm when using Google maps/navigation, my location is reported to within a 50 ft bubble
Lally is a real jerk.
So is Jackson.
This lady testified to not being pressured to change her report. However, she based her findings on the police report provided to her. So, confirmation bias was already present. It’s interesting there are nine women on the jury because nine men will immediately see, John had the crap beaten out of him. The, Albert kids knuckles were all torn up. The dog attack of the arm is obvious. John, saw the video of, Karen, kissing Higgins. John, may have swung first. Higgins, is a much bigger guy, had on gloves in the sallyport, so, probably had them on at the house, his snow plow was there (did John hit his head on it falling back from a blow to the eye?), did the fight occur in the driveway? Not much snow yet, so why did, Higgins plow it before the, Alberts pulled in? Was Higgins clearing evidence? We know Higgins is well schooled in crimes, physical restraint, etc. And, after “viewing the family photos”away from the other house guests, Higgins takes off and goes to the Police Department to “move cars”, before “butt dialing” back & forth with, Albert around 2:20 am. Seven minutes before, Jen, googles about how long for a person to die in the cold.
👏 👏👏💯
So they waited a year to talk to mr plow?
Lally points to his lying witnesses as “proof” so IMO he is lying Lally
Do you really believe ALL of his witnesses have lied under oath?
@@barbaramay1866 The Alberts and McCabes and of course, Proctor who broke out the rest of the tail light and planted it on the lawn. The leafblower guy who used it to hide drag marks from the house and the first responder who pretended she wasn’t friends with I think it was Julie. Proctor shared everything with his wife who disseminated it to the rest of the accomplices. Now from Lucky, the snowplow guy we learn they parked one of the family’s Ford Edges in front of where they dragged the body. Possibly to serve as a privacy screen in case a snowplow passed by
Lucky just confidently said, without saying, Trooper Paul falsified his police report. Best of Luck Trooper Paul. You're toast!
Prosecutor getting nasty towards the doctor unbelievable....and not called for...🤬
Green is extremely intelligent & knows his job … Free Read
The way Paul stared at KR during autopsy photos.
And was shaking his head…
She showed no reaction what so ever. Speaks volumes.
@@kathyheslep5720Read has looked at these pictures 100 times over the last two years. I would too if someone was telling me that I had caused them. You become immune to things that you’re over exposed to.
@@kathyheslep5720 Paul shouldn’t be staring at her with such contempt. He also has a prior OUI that caused serious bodily injury in 2020. Lucky he didn’t kill the victim in that accident. So he should sit back and reflect on that.
Im so glad someone else commented this. I totally agree. People are acting like this is all new to her and happened yesterday. She will know this evidence inside and out. Its not shocking to me at all that she is absle to remain calm. Doesnt mean she FEELS calm @EmJust
Mr Greene is far more credible than Jessica or whiffen.