Yes, I misspoke about ZFS being a “memory hog”. I meant more that it will work better the more RAM you throw at it since it can use pretty much all of it. Thanks everyone for pointing that out though 😒
I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy. Also, so cool to see Hardware Haven here as well. Two of my favorite smaller tech channels that I've discovered this year! You guys are both educational and fun to watch.
there is a simple(r) solution for usb 3 boot drive: get one of those SLC 32GB usb disk along with a USB flexible extension to put it inside the chassis near the vent airflow. SLC USB drives are fast enough for scale install and will last FOREVER. You'll also have the ability to use both nvme drives
The whole "zfs is a memory hog" thing is a bit of a myth. Most of the issues around that arise if you use dedupe. Since that's not something you really need most of the time (and if you really need it, you can enable it on just one dataset), huge memory sizes aren't super necessary. Having said that, more memory is helpful for things like caching, but how much you really need there depends on how you use your data.
Yes, I would absolutely like to see certificates set up on TrueNAS Scale.. I couldn't get it working and gave up. Oh, and... I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy. Please don't ask me to do that again...
I'd pay 150$ for a full networking course on scale...... but yeah a VPN video on scale would help. Maybe work again with HH and Jeff. I know you guys have been in cahoots for a little bit now. Love the vids brotha keep em coming.
I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy. At LEAST HH knows you're weird. That's a start to a bro-mance. He's cool. I like when he does a video project, something just doesn't work, and he continues, SHOWING US his mistake. Mark of a great creator! Terramaster had/has (okay leaning toward "HAD") a chance, a huge chance, of making very good, low-cost NAS with great software. They failed. It's obvious from everyone's review on UA-cam they failed. Synology and TrueNAS {core,scale} are the Gold Standards. Synology "just works." (Most of the time!) But TrueNAS has so much going for it and will only get better. I like you taking the time to show taking this mess and making it useable. I see this has a great "dorm room NAS" for a kid to take to college. Or perhaps for a baby NAS for cameras' recordings. Keep up the great videos my fine feathered creator.
What's wrong with just using a usb flash drive as your boot medium? the only time you really need to write to it is for stuff like os updates and configuration changes which happen super rarely. most of what you do with the nas is going to be done on the pool(s)
Very interesting. Not happy with the TOS on the Terramaster. Nothing seems to work without lots of messing about. Not sure Scale will fit in my older F5-221.
Great video. Have you taken a look at UGreen's kickstarter for their Nasync devices? The hardware they have looks pretty good, starting with the Intel N100 all the way to the i5-1235u. Those 2 performance cores in the i5 are pretty powerful.
What was your reason that you didn't run TrueNAS from the USB drive? Why not a good idea? I have been running it for the past year plus from a USB drive.
@@philiprobar Is it really a problem for a home use/home lab (hobby) scenario that have way less read writes (where as being the OS having less so writes that actual diminishes the lifespan)? Between installing a second USB drive (mirroring) and or installing a usb to M.2/SSD as an option, I don't see the need to be that concerned in the first place. My Terramaster TrueNAS has been running with no issues for the past year. If the USB drive becomes an issue (I doubt it for the next 2 to 4 years) I have a backup of the OS & config and I will just slap in a USB to M.2 drive, and secure it in-between the fan and the Drives. In my opinion it is way to valuable to use the onboard M.2 slots for the OS. Your reasoning for Home Office/Small Business I can agree not to use USB drives. To be honest in such scenarios is using a Terramaster running an unsupported OS, really the smart option, to be used in a Home Office/Small Business scenario?
@@RaidOwl simultaneous already covers "at the same time" as other transcodes. that's literally the definitionof "simultaneous". If you wrote "simultaneous transcodes at the same time" in a paper in English class, your teacher would mark it red as redundant words.
Ii is a nice vide, but: - ZFS is NOT a memory hog, I run it om a 2003 backup server with 1GB of DDR (400MHz); Pentium 4 HT (3.0GHz); 4 HDDs 1.21TB (2x IDE; 2x SATA-1). It runs FreeBSD 13.2' + XFCE on OpenZFS 2.1.9. It has one small disadvantage, it only runs the backup (send | ssh receive) at ~200Mbps due to a ~95% load on one CPU thread. ZFS uses a large part of free memory for the L1ARC (memory cache) to store the lz4 compressed records, but memory will be freed again if needed. - I run FreeBSD from the zroot datapool on 2 IDE HDDs (Raid 0; 250+320GB) and I also use those HDDs to store some of my backup datasets. The other datapool has 2 laptop HDDs (2x 320GB; Raid 0; SATA).
Most linux based OS loads as much as possible into RAM, and only read/write drives when required, instead of Windows that tries to load everything from the drive...
Im a dirty little raid owl fanboy and would love a vpn setup on scale walk through. I have several failed attempts across proxmox, casa os, scale, pf sense, .....you get the idea lol
everyone's following the rules here without realizing why. i do it for his top tier memes. what's up? the sky. *pause* lmaooooo also, I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy.
I was so excited to try this out, until I got my NAS open and found there were no NVMe or RAM slots... it was at that moment that, much to my dismay, I realized I have the F2-210, the much inferior predecessor to the model you use in this video.
a cache-less truenas is unusably slow my friend. you should consider putting unraid on that usb thumbdrive, unraid is designed to run ON usb drives, then keep the two nvme drives as a large cache pool, and that is the ticket to success
@@nadtz maybe it's my rig?? idk man my truenas rig has: cpu: intel pentium g4600 (2c/4t, "skylake family") ram: 8gb ddr4 ssd: 240gb nvme pci-e ssd (running truenas scale 22.02.4) hdd: 2tb WD "enterprise" sata 3 (6gb/s) at 7200rpm - hdd's (x7) case: AUDHEID K7 8 Bay NAS Case (from amazon) Transfer speeds avg about 12MB/s, Whereas on the UNRAID server (that has 1tb ssd cache) transfer speeds avg 96MB/s both on same lan, granted, the unraid has way better specs (xeon e5 2699v3, 96gb ram, etc.) but its just transfering data , shouldn't need heavywheight cpu for that
zfs encryption in terramaster is just horrible due this cpus doesn't have AVX and unfortuantelly ZFS is not using aes-ni provided by this cpu for encryption :(
Now I'm running OpenMediaVault, it's much better, the user interface is more straight to the point and it works. I stumbled across that there for some reason is an incompatibility between ZFS and Docker containers, but you can configure your way out of it. Anyway, I don't like ZFS, so I'm happy with OpenMediaVault where I can choose myself.
Yes, I misspoke about ZFS being a “memory hog”. I meant more that it will work better the more RAM you throw at it since it can use pretty much all of it. Thanks everyone for pointing that out though 😒
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Also, thanks for the shoutout! Working on that video as I'm typing this.. lol
Goodluck soldier 🫡
Holy nas, Collab soo sooon yaaaaaaessss
Both of you have excellent content.
@@illstateofmind yes fr! I love both of em
That was perfect you guys. Very funny! Big fan of both, nice to see the skit.
I got the F2-223 and put TrueNAS Core on it. It's working great.
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Also, so cool to see Hardware Haven here as well. Two of my favorite smaller tech channels that I've discovered this year! You guys are both educational and fun to watch.
there is a simple(r) solution for usb 3 boot drive: get one of those SLC 32GB usb disk along with a USB flexible extension to put it inside the chassis near the vent airflow. SLC USB drives are fast enough for scale install and will last FOREVER. You'll also have the ability to use both nvme drives
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Can you name a SLC usb stick?
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Until I accidentally kill it..
RIP in pieces
Plex the favourite one?? Jellyfin FTW!!
I knew someone would call me out on that lol
The whole "zfs is a memory hog" thing is a bit of a myth. Most of the issues around that arise if you use dedupe. Since that's not something you really need most of the time (and if you really need it, you can enable it on just one dataset), huge memory sizes aren't super necessary. Having said that, more memory is helpful for things like caching, but how much you really need there depends on how you use your data.
Yeah I know what you mean. I meant it more like “ZFS works best with large amounts of ram”
Yes, I would absolutely like to see certificates set up on TrueNAS Scale.. I couldn't get it working and gave up. Oh, and...
I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy. Please don't ask me to do that again...
it's extra work, but you can ditch k3s and go with straight docker on scale. more of an advanced implementation though.
Yes. Vpn on TrueNas scale walkthrough please!
I'd pay 150$ for a full networking course on scale...... but yeah a VPN video on scale would help. Maybe work again with HH and Jeff. I know you guys have been in cahoots for a little bit now. Love the vids brotha keep em coming.
"First step is to take the top of" - "Weird request, but OK" 😂😂😂
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At LEAST HH knows you're weird. That's a start to a bro-mance. He's cool. I like when he does a video project, something just doesn't work, and he continues, SHOWING US his mistake. Mark of a great creator!
Terramaster had/has (okay leaning toward "HAD") a chance, a huge chance, of making very good, low-cost NAS with great software. They failed. It's obvious from everyone's review on UA-cam they failed. Synology and TrueNAS {core,scale} are the Gold Standards. Synology "just works." (Most of the time!) But TrueNAS has so much going for it and will only get better. I like you taking the time to show taking this mess and making it useable. I see this has a great "dorm room NAS" for a kid to take to college. Or perhaps for a baby NAS for cameras' recordings.
Keep up the great videos my fine feathered creator.
0:15 The Intel Ark page for the Celeron N5095 says it can only support up to 16GB of RAM not 32 - I'm wondering how can 32 or even 64GB work?
What's wrong with just using a usb flash drive as your boot medium? the only time you really need to write to it is for stuff like os updates and configuration changes which happen super rarely. most of what you do with the nas is going to be done on the pool(s)
TrueNAS writes a lot of metadata to it's boot device, wearing out most flash drives in short order. Spend the $20 on a 64 gb ssd! :)
A walk-through for setting up a VPN on Scale would be greatly Appreciated kind Sir. 🍻
Very interesting. Not happy with the TOS on the Terramaster. Nothing seems to work without lots of messing about. Not sure Scale will fit in my older F5-221.
Great video. Have you taken a look at UGreen's kickstarter for their Nasync devices? The hardware they have looks pretty good, starting with the Intel N100 all the way to the i5-1235u. Those 2 performance cores in the i5 are pretty powerful.
I would be interested in a guide for setting up a VPN within TrueNAS :)
This is my exact journey after realizing my shiny new qnap nas didn't do zfs or btrfs
Can I install it on F2-420?
Nice little NAS. Did you try to install OMV just to see hot it runs?
Not yet
Recycling with TrueNAS, great going! And . . .
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Seen a few people try out running disk station manager using tcrp bootloader on this hardware
You can probably get around the boot drive problem with nvme namespaces if you can find an m.2 that actually support it
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Just Google “MLB Streams Reddit” 😏
What was your reason that you didn't run TrueNAS from the USB drive? Why not a good idea? I have been running it for the past year plus from a USB drive.
Most USB flash drives are low quality and will experience an early death if an OS is run from them.
@@philiprobar Is it really a problem for a home use/home lab (hobby) scenario that have way less read writes (where as being the OS having less so writes that actual diminishes the lifespan)? Between installing a second USB drive (mirroring) and or installing a usb to M.2/SSD as an option, I don't see the need to be that concerned in the first place. My Terramaster TrueNAS has been running with no issues for the past year. If the USB drive becomes an issue (I doubt it for the next 2 to 4 years) I have a backup of the OS & config and I will just slap in a USB to M.2 drive, and secure it in-between the fan and the Drives. In my opinion it is way to valuable to use the onboard M.2 slots for the OS. Your reasoning for Home Office/Small Business I can agree not to use USB drives. To be honest in such scenarios is using a Terramaster running an unsupported OS, really the smart option, to be used in a Home Office/Small Business scenario?
Great humour, It would be epic if you make a video about VPN
I run Xpenology on my dual core version because I’m cheap, but it works well. Oh and they use Intel i225 Nic chipset not Realtek like most cheap ones.
Love Raid Owls humor
I love Dancing Dragon’s comments
"simultaneous transcodes at the same time"
... wait for it ...
there ya go
Simultaneous transcodes at the same time while multiple other transcodes are also running
@@RaidOwl simultaneous already covers "at the same time" as other transcodes. that's literally the definitionof "simultaneous".
If you wrote "simultaneous transcodes at the same time" in a paper in English class, your teacher would mark it red as redundant words.
Good thing this isn’t an English class
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i just wonder why this channel does not have 200k, 300k subscribers yet
Soon 💪🏼
Love the vid and love the Collab
Has anyone got Hardware Transcoding working with Plex inside Truenas?
I’ve spent the weekend trying with no success
I'd consider subscribing. Oh wait, I have already. Good vid, I appreciate you too.
I already have media on my HDDs for Plex, what will happen to this if I upgrade to TruNAS?
You’ll need to reformat the drives.
I have a few Terramasters - and yeah the OS is a bit gash, ujsing TrueNAS is a great alternative I am gonna get my look on
I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy! I did this with my 4-bay NAS from TerraMaster.
what if someone made a mod to use the pcie port and replace with 4 port nic or sfp nic in that way it can utilize as a router to
Ii is a nice vide, but:
- ZFS is NOT a memory hog, I run it om a 2003 backup server with 1GB of DDR (400MHz); Pentium 4 HT (3.0GHz); 4 HDDs 1.21TB (2x IDE; 2x SATA-1). It runs FreeBSD 13.2' + XFCE on OpenZFS 2.1.9. It has one small disadvantage, it only runs the backup (send | ssh receive) at ~200Mbps due to a ~95% load on one CPU thread. ZFS uses a large part of free memory for the L1ARC (memory cache) to store the lz4 compressed records, but memory will be freed again if needed.
- I run FreeBSD from the zroot datapool on 2 IDE HDDs (Raid 0; 250+320GB) and I also use those HDDs to store some of my backup datasets. The other datapool has 2 laptop HDDs (2x 320GB; Raid 0; SATA).
I'm a dirty little Raid Owl fanboy. Thanks!
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TerraMaster would be better off selling those units with TrueNAS preinstalled
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@@RaidOwl Fine, can I at least be your sidekick? 😘😘
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ZFS is NOT a “memory hog”!
But yes, that’s what somebody that doesn’t know would say…
Damn that’s crazy
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Nice video...
Damn I like your videos man! Keep it up 😊👍
Most linux based OS loads as much as possible into RAM, and only read/write drives when required, instead of Windows that tries to load everything from the drive...
Im a dirty little raid owl fanboy and would love a vpn setup on scale walk through. I have several failed attempts across proxmox, casa os, scale, pf sense, .....you get the idea lol
Great YT! Can you please do a walk through to setup a VPN? I'm a dirty little Raid Owl FanBoy!
damn nas are so expensive,
looking to build one myself should be less expensive and would be fun to build one
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Oh I know Pieter don’t worry 😏
everyone's following the rules here without realizing why. i do it for his top tier memes. what's up? the sky. *pause* lmaooooo
also,
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I was so excited to try this out, until I got my NAS open and found there were no NVMe or RAM slots... it was at that moment that, much to my dismay, I realized I have the F2-210, the much inferior predecessor to the model you use in this video.
Oh no…
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Though the Terramaster is basically a donor for a Mainboard with CPU and PSU and case for 379$ 😅
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keep the content coming sir.
I’m a dirty little owl fanboy. Was thinking about putting unraid on it because of it booting into ram. Just a thought.
Yeah that’s def a solid option!
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I think the size of the USB-Sticks is pretty average... 😢
a cache-less truenas is unusably slow my friend.
you should consider putting unraid on that usb thumbdrive,
unraid is designed to run ON usb drives,
then keep the two nvme drives as a large cache pool,
and that is the ticket to success
What exactly are you doing with your truenas that it's unusably slow without cache? My nas is fine without any special vdev's
@@nadtz maybe it's my rig?? idk man
my truenas rig has:
cpu: intel pentium g4600 (2c/4t, "skylake family")
ram: 8gb ddr4
ssd: 240gb nvme pci-e ssd (running truenas scale 22.02.4)
hdd: 2tb WD "enterprise" sata 3 (6gb/s) at 7200rpm - hdd's (x7)
case: AUDHEID K7 8 Bay NAS Case (from amazon)
Transfer speeds avg about 12MB/s,
Whereas on the UNRAID server (that has 1tb ssd cache) transfer speeds avg 96MB/s
both on same lan,
granted, the unraid has way better specs (xeon e5 2699v3, 96gb ram, etc.) but its just transfering data , shouldn't need heavywheight cpu for that
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How could I setup NordVPN on truenas scale would be dope
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One thing you don't include in the cost is the price of the storage. Go ahead, and just double the cost of the unit, itself.
Well yeah but that’s gonna heavily depend on how much you need
ZFS is not a memory hog. It uses free RAM for cache and releases it when needed elsewhere.
Free RAM is wasted Ram.
I DEFINATELY need to walkthrough setting up OpenVPN on TrueNas Scale. PLEASE HELP Mr. Owl!!! (Where do I send the first installment of $14.95. JK!)
That not how you normally use vpn. You add the ovpn file somewhere and the apps have a section where you just link that file. That’s it.
For a client, maybe. For a server you need to get it properly set up.
@@RaidOwl aa I missed the point, I thought it was to let your (arr)apps behind VPN. I was 10% paying attention 😂
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If your USB drive is a real SSD then it should be ok to install and run TrueNAS off it.
Just gonna find one that fits lol
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@@RaidOwl Apologies, obviously I forgot about the rules.
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What about unRAID on this thing?
Probs a good idea
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zfs encryption in terramaster is just horrible due this cpus doesn't have AVX and unfortuantelly ZFS is not using aes-ni provided by this cpu for encryption :(
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Subbed lmao.
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TrueNAS Scale sucks, TrueCharts apps blocks during install, the file system fails.
Now I'm running OpenMediaVault, it's much better, the user interface is more straight to the point and it works. I stumbled across that there for some reason is an incompatibility between ZFS and Docker containers, but you can configure your way out of it. Anyway, I don't like ZFS, so I'm happy with OpenMediaVault where I can choose myself.
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