you have to set up the suspension for your body weight, the differnece in handling is huge, mine came new with very odd settings, when I dialed it in it was superb.
I don't see why just because it's taller, that there should be any "distance" between the "X" and "XE". It should be just as premium, but more road oriented. Not everyone is a Giraffe, but everyone might want the better brakes and suspension. They should have just taken the XC and added an IMU and heated grips, and that's it. If you want a cheaper bike, get a 900cc or 400cc. The Scrambler 1200 was always supposed to be a premium bike to me. The cost savings is nothing compared to what people will spend on accessories almost immediately on a new bike. Glad I snagged an "XC" before they were gone, it's the Unicorn of Scramblers now.
Many thanks for your critical and honest review. I'm seriously considering a 1200XE, 400x or Caballero 500 Rally to keep my Bonneville T120 company. May I ask how tall you are? I'm 6ft2" so knowing the reviewer's height helps me put ride height comments into context.
I'm a smidge under six foot and reasonably long in the leg so not short, but (as you'll have gathered) that bit of extra ride height over the 1200 X was enough to make it feel rather more intimidating at low speeds. Given you're a bit taller than me I'd wager you'd be more comfortable with it - is definitely a bike suited to bigger riders. Hope that helps!
I'm 6" 32" inseam and the xe was a bit tall. XC is 1" shorter and perfect. If I sit just right, in boots, I can flat foot. After having the XC for 6 months as my first bike, I want to add another 1200, probably an xe
@@PeturrD I'm sure it's something you get used to with longer on the bike and glad you can make it work for you. As I said in the vid, I'm still a little new and wobbly at the moment so I'm sure experience helps as well!
I do like them for an off reader or adventure bike they are different to the bldy great 1290 Ktm and gs 1250/1300 bmw I’ve had 3 ktm’s 2 1290and 1190 adventure they are the dogs danglies but to high and heavy at my age and I’m thinking about this bike but wether it’s still to high I ride a 2023 rocket nice and low and smooth but don’t know if I want to go back to a high adv style bike again or get a speedmaster which I’ve had before a bobber or even a T120 bonnie decisions 🤷♂️🤷♂️ hope you get to enjoy the scrambler ride safe mate
Certainly A LOT taller than a Rocket, that's for sure. If you're not riding off road and per the vid I'd say the 1200 X is a nicer combination of Scrambler style and more manageable seat height. Makes sense how they put a bigger difference between the X and XE than there was with the previous XC. And you could still dabble in some light off-road with an X - probably would have been fine with the track I did in the vid. Sounds like you need to get down to a Triumph dealer and try a few, which will be a fun day out in itself. Happy hunting!
I never take mine off road (2020 XE), but absolutely love it on the road in the twisties and mountains. I put some metzler next tourance 2s on it (90/10 road adventure tyre) and it sucks up the bumps and handles extremely well . Very relaxed to ride as well. It's my chill with Friends on day rides and go everywhere bike. Plenty of power yes, but riding it after riding the my speed triple RS it feels like a 50cc postie bike - in a good way ;-) Definitely needs an aftermarket exhaust (difficult on the never models as they put the cat in the "slip on"). Personally I wouldn't buy the current model given the changes to the cat placement and downgrade on suspension. Get one of the 19-22 models and put some bark busters (those factory hand guards are rubbish) and bar end mirrors would be my recommendation.
I think you’re certainly right when you say that this feels a lot different to ride compared with the X model. The X seemed very normal and I felt no challenge, but here with the XE everything turns out differently. The XE is the bike! I use it mainly as a road bike and I like that it’s a tall bike. You see everything over the traffic and it filters very well because it’s maneuverability is at the top. And the plus on top of that is that car drivers see you too very well and that’s a “feature “ that made my mind when I was hesitant in buying the bike. On the road is good to see well what you have in front of you but it’s also important to be seen by the other road users. Now that I have some thousand kms on the odometer I’m glad that I decided to conclude the business and I got it since April of this year. I also agree that the present suspensions are a bit firm on the road but that’s is a trade off between comfort and performance. I like this bike because it performs perfectly on the road and the cherry on the cake is the off road capability. In sum, the bike is awesome to ride. The prior set of suspensions was very similar. This Baja orange Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE made it fantastic for me in terms of styling, so with all the features that we know the bike has, it’s a peach of a bike! Thank you for the nice video and riding impressions! Be well ✌🏻✌🏻
@@Fernando90054 Thank you for sharing your experiences with the bike, really interesting to read and get some insight from someone who’s lived with one. Nice one!
I can only agree with everything said here. Got my Baja orange XE in march this year and it’s the most fun, comfortable and versatile bike I’ve had. And I’ve been riding a number of bikes over the course of 30 years. The fun factor is top 👍🏼
I had one of the first 2019 and the Ohlins provided a terribly harsh ride (but it might have been early production issues). I absolutely loved the bike but even after a respring and revalve, the bike was giving me a beating (200km on it felt like 500km on my 2015 Scrambler 900). Looking forward to see how the 2024 would feel with properly adjusted suspensions. If it's possible to make it feel as compliant as an Africa Twin, I'd buy another one in a heart beat.
Thanks! If I was doing long trips the Africa Twin would make much more sense but this is just as off-road capable, cooler and more fun for shorter blasts and fun days out. No wrong answers, just different ones!
Hi Dan, Thanks for the Review. I have a 1989 Honda Transalp. She is starting to misbehave after all these years. I am super ichy for the Ducati Multistrada but a divorce seriously changed my financial situation. And i am starting to look at other more cost-effective solutions than the dream bike Multistrada. I absolutely love the Multistrada (rented and test-drove a bunch) the scrambler grabs another part of my Psyche... what version of the scrambler would you point me towards. (I am 55 now, leaning more paved than off-road, live in the country, and looking for a bike to just do day trips with the girlfriend. 100 miles out tops. But it has enough torque to put a smile on my face. Thoughts?
Hi! Not sure if you've seen my Scrambler 1200 X review - ua-cam.com/video/MUFLAi2eGvA/v-deo.htmlsi=Ez9hqQXlRa2Uv9Ej - but for what you describe I think that would do the job nicely. The XE is a big old beast and sounds like you don't need the extra off-road ability and while the Transalp and Multistrada are both awesome (well, assuming the Ducati is - not ridden it yet but I know plenty who love it!) their real talents would probably be wasted on those shorter trips where you just want a blast to but grins on faces. Great if you have time and opportunity to go for longer tours or trips where the novelty of the Triumph would wear thin. See what you think but that would be my vote! Cheers!
I feel the best Triumph Scrambler would be an updated Speed 400X with better suspension, spoked tubeless wheels, and easy height adjustment for short rider who usually miss on on the adventure style of riding. 40ps is more than enough for off-road use even when carrying luggage.
In my opinion this is the best modern retro bike! Very uni. Good for offroad and normal ride.
you have to set up the suspension for your body weight, the differnece in handling is huge, mine came new with very odd settings, when I dialed it in it was superb.
I don't see why just because it's taller, that there should be any "distance" between the "X" and "XE". It should be just as premium, but more road oriented. Not everyone is a Giraffe, but everyone might want the better brakes and suspension. They should have just taken the XC and added an IMU and heated grips, and that's it. If you want a cheaper bike, get a 900cc or 400cc. The Scrambler 1200 was always supposed to be a premium bike to me. The cost savings is nothing compared to what people will spend on accessories almost immediately on a new bike. Glad I snagged an "XC" before they were gone, it's the Unicorn of Scramblers now.
Great video!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Many thanks for your critical and honest review. I'm seriously considering a 1200XE, 400x or Caballero 500 Rally to keep my Bonneville T120 company. May I ask how tall you are? I'm 6ft2" so knowing the reviewer's height helps me put ride height comments into context.
I'm a smidge under six foot and reasonably long in the leg so not short, but (as you'll have gathered) that bit of extra ride height over the 1200 X was enough to make it feel rather more intimidating at low speeds. Given you're a bit taller than me I'd wager you'd be more comfortable with it - is definitely a bike suited to bigger riders. Hope that helps!
Many for your prompt reply. Yes that helps alot.
I'm 6" 32" inseam and the xe was a bit tall. XC is 1" shorter and perfect. If I sit just right, in boots, I can flat foot.
After having the XC for 6 months as my first bike, I want to add another 1200, probably an xe
I'm 5' 8" with 30" inseam. I only put one foot down at stops. I have no issues unless I go on off-road trails, then it gets tricky. I love my 1200XE.
@@PeturrD I'm sure it's something you get used to with longer on the bike and glad you can make it work for you. As I said in the vid, I'm still a little new and wobbly at the moment so I'm sure experience helps as well!
A resounding YES
I do like them for an off reader or adventure bike they are different to the bldy great 1290 Ktm and gs 1250/1300 bmw I’ve had 3 ktm’s 2 1290and 1190 adventure they are the dogs danglies but to high and heavy at my age and I’m thinking about this bike but wether it’s still to high I ride a 2023 rocket nice and low and smooth but don’t know if I want to go back to a high adv style bike again or get a speedmaster which I’ve had before a bobber or even a T120 bonnie decisions 🤷♂️🤷♂️ hope you get to enjoy the scrambler ride safe mate
Certainly A LOT taller than a Rocket, that's for sure. If you're not riding off road and per the vid I'd say the 1200 X is a nicer combination of Scrambler style and more manageable seat height. Makes sense how they put a bigger difference between the X and XE than there was with the previous XC. And you could still dabble in some light off-road with an X - probably would have been fine with the track I did in the vid. Sounds like you need to get down to a Triumph dealer and try a few, which will be a fun day out in itself. Happy hunting!
I never take mine off road (2020 XE), but absolutely love it on the road in the twisties and mountains. I put some metzler next tourance 2s on it (90/10 road adventure tyre) and it sucks up the bumps and handles extremely well . Very relaxed to ride as well. It's my chill with Friends on day rides and go everywhere bike. Plenty of power yes, but riding it after riding the my speed triple RS it feels like a 50cc postie bike - in a good way ;-)
Definitely needs an aftermarket exhaust (difficult on the never models as they put the cat in the "slip on"). Personally I wouldn't buy the current model given the changes to the cat placement and downgrade on suspension. Get one of the 19-22 models and put some bark busters (those factory hand guards are rubbish) and bar end mirrors would be my recommendation.
I think you’re certainly right when you say that this feels a lot different to ride compared with the X model. The X seemed very normal and I felt no challenge, but here with the XE everything turns out differently. The XE is the bike!
I use it mainly as a road bike and I like that it’s a tall bike. You see everything over the traffic and it filters very well because it’s maneuverability is at the top. And the plus on top of that is that car drivers see you too very well and that’s a “feature “ that made my mind when I was hesitant in buying the bike. On the road is good to see well what you have in front of you but it’s also important to be seen by the other road users. Now that I have some thousand kms on the odometer I’m glad that I decided to conclude the business and I got it since April of this year. I also agree that the present suspensions are a bit firm on the road but that’s is a trade off between comfort and performance. I like this bike because it performs perfectly on the road and the cherry on the cake is the off road capability. In sum, the bike is awesome to ride. The prior set of suspensions was very similar. This Baja orange Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE made it fantastic for me in terms of styling, so with all the features that we know the bike has, it’s a peach of a bike!
Thank you for the nice video and riding impressions! Be well ✌🏻✌🏻
@@Fernando90054 Thank you for sharing your experiences with the bike, really interesting to read and get some insight from someone who’s lived with one. Nice one!
I can only agree with everything said here. Got my Baja orange XE in march this year and it’s the most fun, comfortable and versatile bike I’ve had. And I’ve been riding a number of bikes over the course of 30 years. The fun factor is top 👍🏼
I had one of the first 2019 and the Ohlins provided a terribly harsh ride (but it might have been early production issues). I absolutely loved the bike but even after a respring and revalve, the bike was giving me a beating (200km on it felt like 500km on my 2015 Scrambler 900). Looking forward to see how the 2024 would feel with properly adjusted suspensions. If it's possible to make it feel as compliant as an Africa Twin, I'd buy another one in a heart beat.
Really good video! Would you take this or the Africa Twin DCT you recently tested!?
Thanks! If I was doing long trips the Africa Twin would make much more sense but this is just as off-road capable, cooler and more fun for shorter blasts and fun days out. No wrong answers, just different ones!
Whats that jacket? Are they vents in the upper arms?
Hi Phil, yes, those are vents in the upper arms and the jacket is a Furygan Brooks - see www.furygan.com/produit/brooks/?lang=en
Hi Dan, Thanks for the Review. I have a 1989 Honda Transalp. She is starting to misbehave after all these years. I am super ichy for the Ducati Multistrada but a divorce seriously changed my financial situation. And i am starting to look at other more cost-effective solutions than the dream bike Multistrada. I absolutely love the Multistrada (rented and test-drove a bunch) the scrambler grabs another part of my Psyche... what version of the scrambler would you point me towards. (I am 55 now, leaning more paved than off-road, live in the country, and looking for a bike to just do day trips with the girlfriend. 100 miles out tops. But it has enough torque to put a smile on my face. Thoughts?
Hi! Not sure if you've seen my Scrambler 1200 X review - ua-cam.com/video/MUFLAi2eGvA/v-deo.htmlsi=Ez9hqQXlRa2Uv9Ej - but for what you describe I think that would do the job nicely. The XE is a big old beast and sounds like you don't need the extra off-road ability and while the Transalp and Multistrada are both awesome (well, assuming the Ducati is - not ridden it yet but I know plenty who love it!) their real talents would probably be wasted on those shorter trips where you just want a blast to but grins on faces. Great if you have time and opportunity to go for longer tours or trips where the novelty of the Triumph would wear thin. See what you think but that would be my vote! Cheers!
This road like my country, Indonesia. where is it?
@@thomasdesmaniar5541 A long way from Indonesia - it’s in the north of England!
Brave pill lol.
I feel the best Triumph Scrambler would be an updated Speed 400X with better suspension, spoked tubeless wheels, and easy height adjustment for short rider who usually miss on on the adventure style of riding. 40ps is more than enough for off-road use even when carrying luggage.
the youtube police dont need you to cover up your speedo